Where is Tibet: A litany of lies from the Tibetan leadership

Over the years, the Tibetan leadership have made many promises about Dorje Shugden, none of which have materialized over time.

By: Kay Beswick

The Tibetan exodus began in 1959 when the People’s Liberation Army entered Tibet and His Holiness the Dalai Lama subsequently fled into exile. In the ensuing 60 years, the exiled Tibetan community established themselves in 24 settlements throughout India, on tracts of land generously granted to them by the Indian government. The Tibetan leadership themselves made their headquarters in Dharamsala, a former British hill station in the foothills of the Himalayas, in an environment reminiscent of Tibet.

From their position there, the Tibetan leadership has been plotting their return to Tibet. In the meantime, their people have occupied themselves with the reestablishment of the Tibetan way of life and religion. Their work and efforts include the reformation of monasteries like Gaden, Sera and Drepung.

From 1959 until 1996, it was a comparatively idyllic time. Tibetans from all walks of life and strata of society peacefully coexisted with one another. That is, until the ban on Dorje Shugden ripped the community in half. To justify the ban, the Tibetan leadership attempted to convince their people with various promises which, over the years, have since been debunked. They have been debunked not just because they lack logic but because the promises have failed to withstand the test of time. Here is just a short rundown of the Central Tibetan Administration’s litany of lies and false promises related to Dorje Shugden:


PROMISE #1: Give up Dorje Shugden because it will help the Tibetan cause

In other words, Tibetans were told that Dorje Shugden harms the Tibetan cause. At the time this promise was made, the ‘Tibetan cause’ was defined as full independence from China. How exactly Dorje Shugden harms the Tibetan cause was never made clear; the mechanics of this vague promise was never defined for the Tibetan people. They were however, told that if they gave up the practice, Dorje Shugden would stop creating problems and obstacles towards their return to Tibet.

Encouraged by this, some Tibetans gave up the practice while others were forced and threatened with violence if they did not do so. They were told that if they kept the practice, they were being disloyal, treasonous and anti-Dalai Lama, an accusation which carries with it heavy and violent repercussions within Tibetan society. Having forced many of their people to give up the practice, the Tibetan leadership now claims that vast swathes of Tibetans have given up the practice and Dorje Shugden is a minority practice, with just a few small yet stubborn strongholds who maintain it.

Contrary to the Tibetan leadership’s claims, there are at least four million Dorje Shugden practitioners. Just a fraction of these (over 200,000) turned up for the enthronement of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche’s reincarnation (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/denma-gonsa-rinpoches-enthronement/).

So given that, according to them, most Tibetans do not rely on Dorje Shugden and have given up the practice, why has the Tibetan leadership failed to make any progress in their efforts to return to Tibet? In the 20 years since the ban on Dorje Shugden began, the Tibetans continue to languish in exile and what is worse, do so as a community divided. The leadership continues to rely on non-governmental organizations to organize protests and campaigns, and for their own Tibetan people to self-immolate and go on hunger strikes, all of which are gaining less attention in a world enamored by the Chinese economy and desensitized after 60 years of fruitless Tibetan protests.

In fact, if anything, it is not Dorje Shugden who has damaged the Tibetan cause but, with respect, His Holiness the Dalai Lama himself. It was His Holiness who downgraded the ‘Tibetan cause’ from full independence (rangzen) to the Middle Way (meaningful autonomy; umaylam). This change led to the recent conflicts between the Tibetan people, divided between those who prefer rangzen and those who prefer umaylam (and accuse rangzen supporters of being anti-Dalai Lama).

Perhaps it is time for the Tibetan people to review the ability of their leadership. It is illogical that all failures in Tibetan society can be ascribed to Dorje Shugden protesters or the Chinese leadership. Are the leadership that incapable that they cannot keep ANY of the promises they make?

If the Tibetan people and leadership have no consensus in their raison d’être, how can they expect to be successful in any of their campaigns and achieve any of their political goals? At this juncture, it is important to keep in mind that this division was not caused by Dorje Shugden; it was not Dorje Shugden who harmed the Tibetan cause.

The Tibetan leadership might also want to think twice the next time they insist that Dorje Shugden harms the Tibetan cause, and therefore people loyal to the Dalai Lama and to Tibet should give up the practice. To say that Dorje Shugden can harm Tibet means that Shakyamuni is not powerful enough to get Tibet back. More embarrassingly still, it means His Holiness the Dalai Lama is not powerful enough to get Tibet back. The Tibetan leadership claim Dorje Shugden is a spirit; is His Holiness the Dalai Lama less powerful than a so-called spirit, that he cannot subdue a spirit and he cannot get Tibet back?


PROMISE #2: Give up Dorje Shugden because it will protect the Dalai Lama and extend his life

When discussing Dorje Shugden, it is impossible to escape another promise that the Tibetan leadership made – giving up Dorje Shugden will prolong the Dalai Lama’s life because Dorje Shugden harms the Dalai Lama.

This was the perfect promise to make to an anxious community facing an uncertain future, who had all of their hopes and ambitions resting on His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s shoulders. Without His Holiness, a global public relations juggernaut, how were they ever going to get Tibet back? Coupled with their inherent faith in the Dalai Lama, telling the Tibetan people that Dorje Shugden harms the Dalai Lama’s life meant they were perfectly poised to be manipulated and scared into doing anything the Tibetan leadership wanted.

Since the ban was enforced in 1996, the Tibetan leadership has failed to demonstrate any basis for this promise, notwithstanding the Dalai Lama’s own proclamations about the timing of his passing. Over the years, His Holiness has demonstrated a tendency to vacillate on this topic; on one occasion, he may state that the time of his passing is near, while on other occasions he has insisted he will live until 113. The Tibetan people have reacted as expected; when His Holiness has claimed his lifespan is short, they react with fear and worry, and countless requests for him to extend his life. When His Holiness has talked about living until 113, they are relieved.

Over the years, His Holiness the Dalai Lama has changed his mind multiple times about the timing of his passing. Is this because he is a master manipulator and toying with his people’s emotions, or is he demonstrating something deeper – an ability to control his death and rebirth? If that is the case, then how can a spirit harm the lifespan of someone who has this ability?

Is it that His Holiness is a master manipulator and toying with his people’s emotions? Or is it that His Holiness is demonstrating he is in full control of his passing and the timing can therefore be changed? Whatever the actual reason, in doing so, the Dalai Lama indirectly demonstrates that there is very little esoteric basis that giving up Dorje Shugden will protect and extend his life. The Dalai Lama is believed to be an emanation of Chenrezig, the Buddha of Compassion. How can something the Tibetan leadership deems a spirit (Dorje Shugden) be capable of harming a fully enlightened being? According to scriptures, since he is enlightened being, the Dalai Lama is therefore also in full control of his winds and the timing of his passing. This is perhaps best demonstrated by his own manifested indecisiveness about the time of his passing; it is this author’s belief that the timing changes because His Holiness is in full control of his death and subsequent rebirth, and Dorje Shugden has no impact on this whatsoever.

The promise from the Tibetan leadership also fails to hold any water because historically speaking, which Dalai Lama has Dorje Shugden killed since he was first enthroned as a Dharma Protector by the Sakyas? In fact, since Dorje Shugden’s manifestation as a Dharma Protector, if anyone has harmed a Dalai Lama’s life in all of that time, it is Nechung. It is well-known that when the 13th Dalai Lama was very ill, Nechung’s proclamations led to the administration of the wrong medication, resulting in the 13th Dalai Lama’s premature death. It is also well-known that when the Dalai Lama was considering leaving Tibet, Nechung was consulted and he advised the Dalai Lama to remain in Tibet. Instead it was Dorje Shugden who advised that the Dalai Lama should leave, and that this was a matter of grave urgency.

If anything, the Dalai Lama’s life was saved by Dorje Shugden. It makes no sense for the Tibetan leadership to claim that giving up the practice protects the Dalai Lama when it is Dorje Shugden who has been protecting the Dalai Lama all this while.


PROMISE #3: Give up Dorje Shugden so the Chinese stop spying on us

To ensure the Tibetan population would be sufficiently fearful of Dorje Shugden, their leadership told them that Dorje Shugden is a ploy of the Chinese, designed to drive a wedge in the Tibetan community. And to encourage people to give up Dorje Shugden, Tibetans were told that Dorje Shugden practitioners are Chinese spies and agents of the Chinese leadership.

All Tibetans know what an accusation like this means. It means the person is ostracized from the community. It means their families are blacklisted; the children cannot go to school, the parents cannot get jobs, shops will not serve them, hospitals will not treat them, and relatives cannot bury their loved ones because no one will come to conduct the last rites. Most of the Tibetan population is not wealthy and when faced with the possibility of such a life, with no foreseeable means of escape, it is understandable that people gave up the practice out of fear, to live as trouble-free a life as possible.

In Tibetan communities, associating with Dorje Shugden practitioners can earn you the dangerous label of being ‘anti-Dalai Lama’, although you may not practice Dorje Shugden yourself. This is the leadership’s method of ostracizing Dorje Shugden practitioners. Prominent Tibetan essayist Jamyang Norbu found out the hard way when this image of him and Shugden lama, Dechen Tulku surfaced on social media (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/highest-peaks-to-lowest-gutters-by-jamyang-norbu/)

Tibetans were encouraged to punish Dorje Shugden practitioners for their perceived disloyalty to the Tibetan cause by segregating them – to separate the moustache from the mouth, so to speak. By segregating them, Shugden practitioners would not be able to participate in Tibetan daily life and help the Chinese leadership to sow seeds of dissent amongst Tibetans. By ostracizing Shugden practitioners, Tibetans were therefore being loyal to the Dalai Lama, their leadership and the Tibetan cause.

Promising that giving up Dorje Shugden makes it harder for China to spy on Tibetans is illogical, to say the least. Everyone practiced Dorje Shugden before the events of 1959, and before the Dalai Lama fled into exile. The Dalai Lama himself practiced Dorje Shugden; was he a tool of the Chinese leadership during his 30 years as a Shugden devotee?

It is similarly illogical and impossible that Dorje Shugden practitioners receive Chinese patronage simply because the Chinese leadership wishes to encourage anti-Dalai Lama sentiment. There are four million Dorje Shugden practitioners throughout the world. Financially, for all Dorje Shugden practitioners to receive remuneration from the Chinese leadership would present a huge expense for the Chinese, not to mention a logistical nightmare – how would the funds even be channeled to individual Shugden supporters and practitioners?

The Tibetan leadership’s promise may be without basis but what is fact is without the ban, there would be no sides for the Chinese leadership to support. So in fact, if the Chinese leadership are at all involved, it was the Tibetan leadership themselves who created a reason for this. Prior to the ban in 1996, many Dorje Shugden practitioners were passionate supporters of the Tibetan cause. When the ban was enforced, many Tibetans questioned why they should be protesting on behalf of a leadership that wants nothing to do with them. Why fight for someone like the Tibetan leadership who has made it clear they want nothing to do with you?


PROMISE #4: Giving up Dorje Shugden will lead to a harmonious Tibetan society

In the push to enforce the ban against Dorje Shugden, the Tibetan leadership promoted the idea that Dorje Shugden practice is schismatic and divisive. They promised more harmony and less conflict if Tibetans gave up Dorje Shugden.

There is no evidence that institutionalizing the ban has led to greater harmony. Most glaringly obvious is the fact the ban has resulted in the split of Sera Mey and Gaden Shartse Monasteries. In the case of Sera Mey, Pomra Khangtsen (fraternity house) broke away to form Serpom Monastery; in Gaden Shartse, Dokhang Khangtsen left to form Shar Gaden Monastery.

The wall that separates non-Shugden Gaden Shartse Monastery from Shugden-practicing Shar Gaden Monastery (formerly belonging to Gaden Shartse as Dokhang Khangtsen). Some have commented that the wall is reminiscent of the Berlin Wall.

The situation was very different prior to the ban when monasteries and monks coexisted peacefully, thanks to their time in Buxa where the Tibetan community lived when they first arrived in exile. In Buxa, Tibetans from all walks of life, sects and backgrounds lived in close proximity to one another with no issues. After the great monasteries were reestablished throughout India, Nyingma and Sakya monasteries found themselves built next to Gelug monasteries (as in the case of Gaden and Sera, for example). The monks would socialize and talk at a degree otherwise impossible in Tibet itself, where the vastness of the land ensured great distances between monasteries.

It has been claimed by the Tibetan leadership that such a split is evidence of religious freedom. They say that the fact the new monasteries exist shows that the Dorje Shugden monks are given their rights to open their own places of worship. But why are such separate places of worship even necessary, when they had been a part of the original monasteries for centuries already?

In the history of the world, ‘divide and conquer’ has never been touted as a formula for harmony and strength. Either the Tibetan leadership has a warped view of what harmony entails, or they truly believe that divisions are indicative of cohesiveness. Given this strange concept of societal harmony and democracy, is there any wonder then they were unable to remain in Tibet and since 1959, have been unable to return?

The claim that the split is evidence of religious freedom is also an erroneous one because the Tibetan leadership has no authority to make such assurances. Being an exiled and stateless government, the Tibetan leadership is bound by the laws of India where they are headquartered. If there is any religious freedom at all, it is afforded to the Tibetan people based on Indian law.

It is in fact Indian law that has protected Tibetan Dorje Shugden practitioners all this while, since the Tibetan leadership has on many occasions directed and organized violence against their own people. In 2000, the 600 monks of Dokhang Khangtsen had to be protected by the Indian riot police when a violent mob of approximately 3,000 Tibetan monks, nuns and laypeople descended on their prayer hall as they conducted a Dorje Shugden puja. The mob threw rocks and bricks, and screamed expletives, demanding to be let into the compound so they could burn down the building.

More recently, the Tibetan leadership published a hit list of Dorje Shugden practitioners who protested for their religious freedom. This was followed by a 27-minute speech by the Dalai Lama, which was shortly followed by a violent knife attack on a 84-year old monk at Trijang Ladrang. A few months later, there was a violent takeover of Domo Geshe Rinpoche’s monastery Gaden Choling in Phedong upon the passing of the caretaker, who was loyal to Dorje Shugden.

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The above is a video of the actual attack on Domo Geshe Rinpoche’s Gaden Choling Monastery (Phedong, India) in 2014

And that is just within the Gelug tradition. Within the Karma Kagyu tradition for example, the Tibetan leadership’s endorsement of one Karmapa candidate over another led to violent clashes at Rumtek Monastery, the traditional seat of the Karmapas during the enthronement ceremony of the non-endorsed candidate.

Then, in May 2016, the Karma Kagyu lama Rabsel Rinpoche wrote of supporters of the Tibetan leadership attempting to label the Karmapa Thaye Dorje a Dorje Shugden practitioner, in an effort to stain his reputation, destroy his influence and otherwise turn people away from him. The Karmapa Thaye Dorje has never previously hinted at any association with the Dorje Shugden practice, but it has not stopped such a ludicrous accusation from being leveled against him.

The letter addressed to the Dalai Lama, penned by the Karma Kagyu lama Lodreu Rabsel Rinpoche. In the letter, Rabsel Rinpoche accuses the Dalai Lama of remaining silent over the behaviour of his supporters, who are trying to create trouble for the Karmapa Thaye Dorje Shugden so he cannot teach freely. One of the methods they do this is by labelling him a Dorje Shugden practitioner. Rabsel Rinpoche acknowledges there is a ban against Dorje Shugden.

At a time when the Tibetan leadership can use a Gelug issue to create problems within another lineage, it is very clear to see that the promise that giving up Dorje Shugden will lead to harmony is so illogical, it will never bear fruit.




It seems that the Tibetan leadership cannot get things right and whatever they interfere with, ends up a mess of epic proportions. Instead of bringing people together, the leadership’s decisions have resulted in families being torn apart, as well as political in-fighting, conflict, vulgarities and overall violence. It began with the aftermath of the ban instituted in 1996 and things have been on a steady decline since for the Tibetan leadership. 20 years later, in 2016, the Dalai Lama’s reputation is worse than ever, with fewer world leaders willing to meet him, realizing it is not worth to jeopardize their trade relationships with China for such a meeting.

And the goal of rangzen (or umaylam – whatever is preferred) seems just as unattainable today as it was 60 years ago, regardless of whatever the Tibetan people have been told to give up in order to achieve it. They have given up Dorje Shugden, they have given up their teachers, they have given up their commitments, they have spent 20 years directing violence and vulgarities at those who refused to give up Dorje Shugden…and yet, they still have not achieved rangzen or umaylam. So what is the excuse now?

Can it be that the Tibetan leadership is staffed with incompetent individuals, or is it more likely that the leadership is comprised of self-serving people? The former would not be logical; surely after 20 years, incompetence can no longer be used as an excuse as the leaders would have learned from their past mistakes or the Tibetan people would have found much more capable representatives. It seems much more likely that the modus operandi of the leadership is to be entirely self-serving, hence the wild promises they make to their people, promises which are ever-changing in the hopes of distracting and keeping their populace from the truth.

What the Tibetan leadership needs to understand is that real power does not come from making false promises to and manipulating their people. Real power, strength and solidarity come from bringing people together, not driving them apart. If the Tibetan leadership are intent on turning their people against each other because they want money and power, what they will soon find is that with time, people will only wake up to the truth about them. That is, nothing they say can be trusted because they were never in office for the benefit of their people to begin with.

Ordinary Tibetans are growing increasingly frustrated with the Tibetan leadership, recognizing that they make empty promises they never fulfill. The promises they made surrounding Dorje Shugden is another such example of the empty promises made by the Tibetan leadership, which have failed to materialize over time.

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  1. Giving up Dorje Shugden will prolong the Dalai Lama’s life because Dorje Shugden harms the Dalai Lama???, How embarrassing for the Tibetan Leadership to be so berated by their own protector gods, the very same who are care for the Tibetan peoples. According to scriptures and CTA Dalai Lama is an enlightened being, there fore also in full control of his winds and the timing of his passing then how can Dorje Shugden can harm him or shorten his life???? This just a dirty politics nothing else..

  2. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck… how people are still blind and ignorant to the follies of the Tibetan leadership is beyond me. This is a group that has systematically lied, cheated, embezzled and stolen from their people for 60 years. All this exploitation and yet people still look the other way because they’re Buddhist so they must have a deeper reason. And what’s more, they continue to dig into their pockets to fund this sorry excuse of a government.

    No, the CTA are NOT Buddhist. Buddhists don’t act this way. Buddhists don’t use Dharma has a shield to hide behind when their nefarious ways are exposed.

    Thanks for chronicling the lies of this bunch of con men though I can’t imagine it must be very hard to do considering the impressive catalogue they’ve built up for themselves. The CTA will now reap the consequences of the trouble it has sown. THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

  3. The bottom line is, the Tibetan people are in a worse-of state today and it is not difficult to understand why.

    If we are to believe in the law of Karma, then we must accept that the Tibetan people lost their country because of collective karma, specifically the negative karma created by the Tibetan government. Consider this – why didn’t a similar fate befall Nepal and Bhutan? Bhutan especially is just a dot compared to China, and yet it has managed to maintain its sovereignty? Anyone who cares to read Tibetan history will see that Gaden Phodrang is filled with intrigue, foul play and corruption and that legacy continued on in exile.

    The Dalai Lama even admitted it in an interview with Claude Arpi when he said, “Somehow, the shining of our forehead had vanished at one point. Before there was some kind of ray or shine which mean a ‘force of good karma’ or ‘luck’ which has disappeared. Somehow, it was not there anymore [before the Chinese annexation].
    …at the time India became independent in 1947 or even before, something went wrong, Even from the purely spiritual field, many believed that in 1920’s or 1930’s if some puja had been done in time, this tragic thing would not have come…”

    And yet the same Dalai Lama who recognised that the Tibetan people’s demise came as the result of the force of karma, has for the past 20 years, committed the people into creating even greater bad karma by participating in schism (via the Shugden conflict and the Karmapa controversy), breaking sacred oaths made to their Protector and also forcing many monks to disrobe and be devoid of their homes, destroying statues and desecrating holy monasteries, disparaging holy masters and forcing people to break samaya with their gurus.

    How can any of this be good and what do they think the karmic consequences are?

    The CTA has lied time and time again to the Tibetan people and even today, there are those who would blame Dorje Shugden (because that is the scapegoat picked by the Dalai Lama and CTA for their failures) for the Tibetan people’s woes, instead of just looking at facts.

    Personally, I don’t see how anything good would go the Tibetan people’s way until they start to change their own fate. To begin with, stop harming Shugden Buddhists.

  4. OMG what a vein Sikyong. Who would actually create a thangka of themselves and hang it? So much for humility lol. You know I hate to say this but CTA, it is time you close shop. Everywhere you go, you create problems for your own people just because they don’t follow what HH the Dalai Lama says and wants? Does that sound fair and logical and democratic and I thought His Holiness is no longer involve in politics and just focuses on the spiritual aspects of things. So why does a democratic government take His Holiness’s advice and execute them, punishing people and brand them as traitors if they don’t follow suite? Sounds just like their own enemy which they condemn so often for doing all the things they themselves do. They are in fact very a like.

    I think the most hilarious of all the illogical reason they could come up with to ban Dorje Shugden… this one tops it all!
    PROMISE #3: Give up Dorje Shugden so the Chinese stop spying on us
    I think a 5 year old child would be smart enough to know not to reveal your weak points to your enemy for they may use it against you. So if China is now celebrating and promoting Dorje Shugden… well who’s fault is it?
    Geez it make one wonder… no wonder these people lost their country… why ban Dorje Shugden, tell the world how to shorten the Dalai Lama’s life, as if it was true, and expect your enemy to not pick up on that? It is almost like a plot to encourage China to promote Dorje Shugden and I wouldn’t be surprise because nothing is as it seems with these Tibetan mystical lamas.

  5. Dear Kay

    Thank you for writing this article. I like your arguments especially the first two.

    1. I like the way you explained that it was the Dalai Lama who shifted the Tibetan in exile goal from full independence to autonomy. For us Buddhists, it is important to remember and stick to the basic law of cause and effect. Isn’t it better to think that the fall of Tibet was the result of the collective karma of the people who lived in that region instead of treating Dorje Shugden like a scapegoat?

    2. My teacher explained to me that for someone as attained as the Dalai Lama, he has the ability to control his wind and determine as to when he would like to enter clear light. If DS is indeed a demon then how can he shorten the life of the Dalai Lama who is the emanation of Buddha of Compassion, Chenrezig. The Dalai Lama’s followers should understand that the lifespan of the Dalai Lama would depend very much on their samaya with their guru and not on Dorje Shugden.

    In addition, I agree with you that Dorje Shugden worship has nothing to do with the Chinese government or being a Chinese spy and it does not create disharmony. It is the ban on DS practice that created disharmony and not Dorje Shugden worship.


  6. It is very sad to witness one of the most prominent Buddhism society is governed by self-serving people who put the life and welfare of the people in jeopardy. It is administration like the CTA that causes the degeneration of a great religion and the downfall of whatever integrity that Tibetan had been left with. After 60 years in exile, nothing concrete was built or developed. Not an inch was the CTA closer to the goal “Free Tibet”. Nor was there any positive cause that is worth to be mentioned.

  7. It is indeed a well known failure of CTA in trying to get Tibetans together and obtaining independence from China. In supporting this 57 years failure they have to find scapegoat and sadly all are directed at Dorje Shudgen practitioners. Dorje Shudgen practitioners in the CTA county are ostracized, punished, degraded and classified as second class people. Is it correct to assume now that so many fallacies as construed by CTA has now surfaced as lies. In covering these lies they have to come up with more lies to cover other lies, in fact the gaping holes of lies are now too big for them to cover up. In their ensuing struggles over this political failure His Holiness is being dragged into this conundrum situation. A very simple explanation would be that if His Holiness is a emanation of Chenrizig how could he be harm by Dorje Shudgen. This is a plot by CTA working hand in gloves with Nechung a retired oracle that many have suspected to have given incorrect predictions. Are we to go on believing this oracle?

  8. The most amazing thing about these lies from Tibetan leadership about Dorje Shugden, is that the people would actually believe them. Many would agree that Buddhism is a religion/philosophy based on study, understanding, reasoning, debate, and contemplation.

    But from my experience about people who are anti Dorje Shugden, it seems that logic has been thrown out of the window. They have suddenly lost the ability to reason with logic, and most of them would use vulgar words towards Shugden practitioners.

    Most of the anti Shugden people has forgotten Buddha mentioned “All sentient beings”, instead, they change it to “All sentient beings EXCEPT Shugden practitioners”.

    I mean, it is such lame that CTA said “Give up Shugden to help Tibetan cause” (best part is, people would believe it). So, there are people who don’t practice Buddhism, why don’t you go and ask them to stop their practice and follow Buddhism, so that you can have your Tibetan cause? Does it even make sense? So, the responsibilities now lies with the Shugden practitioners, and not the Dalai Lama’s followers? May be the Tibetans should challenge the government and ask them what have they done in the past 60 years, such that things are gone from bad to worse?!

    I would say CTA has done a good job in making their citizens STUPID so that they will just listen without thinking and believe whatever s**t they said. The lack of ability to debate on this Shugden topic is a good indication they just believe what the CTA said without the ability to think.

  9. Oh my god, what happened to you people? You’re full of hate, can’t you see that? Look at yourself! This truly is horrible.

  10. Dear Priyaa,

    We did not start the fire. The first stone was not thrown by Dorje Shudgen people. To say the murder of Lobsang Gyatso was the act of Dorje Shugden people is purely circumstantial and never proven in a court.

    How have this has been written in a hateful manner, does such written material advocate harm to anyone?

  11. Promise #1: Give up Dorje Shugden because it will help the Tibetan cause – It was the Dalai Lama and his advisors who went the Umaylam way, and due to the ineptness of CTA there is no more dialogue with the Chinese Government.
    Promise #2: Give up Dorje Shugden because it will protect the Dalai Lama and extend his life – The 14th Dalai Lama is one of the longest living Dalai Lama of all times, and there are even much more Dorje Shudgen people in the world than before Tibet met the rest of the world.
    Promise #3: Give up Dorje Shugden so the Chinese stop spying on us –
    Many Anti Dorje Shudgen people have accused of China giving out funds to us so we can weaken Tibetan society and cause, does the Chinese Government have my name to pass money via Western Union. NOT!
    PROMISE #4: Giving up Dorje Shugden will lead to a harmonious Tibetan society
    The Dorje Shugden issue was the beginning of chaos within Tibetan community and society, and more have creeped in like the two Karmapa issue, Drukpa Kagyu monasteries being forcibly converted to Karma Kagyu ones, seizing Domo Geshe property, people are using Dorje Shudgen issue to fatten their pockets, fights broke up between parliamentarians and Jonang monks, more drama than dharma!

  12. “… Tibetan people lost their country because of collective karma …”

    That logic not only says that nazi Germany was bombed because of collective karma but also that jews have lost their lives in concentration camps because of their collective karma.

    Is karma a reason to apply violence? No, violence of mind, speech and body causes and effects karma within conciousness and we can only avoid and overcome violence and karma with non-violence/wisdom and compassion and Tibet/tibetan culture was and is about wisdom and compassion. Of course in nation things went/are going wrong, that was and is happening in the past and present. Nobody denies or downtalks something but we should remind that tibet was and is about cultivating wisdom and compassion or non-violence in order to avoid causes of violence and violence. This is not ideology because ignorance/violence/suffering is a part of reality and best way to deal with it is wisdom and compassion/non-violence because of it causes and effects freedom and wellbeing.

    What about the collective karma (ignorance/duality/karmic wind/violence) of people (because they didn’t grew up with education about reality/non-duality/non-violence) that became the violence the jews have experienced?

    Here we are clear that human beings itself are not the problem at all but ignorance or ignoring that reality is non-duality and creating the illusion of duality is the problem or what becomes a problem for one being itself and also other beings. So here we don’t accuse/blame someone, we are just aware of that education about reality/non-duality/wisdom and compassion helps to avoid and overcome causes of violence/suffering and violence/suffering.

    What about the collective merrit of tibetan people and what is blocking their merrit? Tibetan people are not alone on this planet, there are many other nations as well.

    It was not the fault/karma of the jews by the way, the fault was that human beings in europe where not educated in non-duality/wisdom and compassion/dignity that is identity and important to cultivate or real culture starts with cultivating once dignity by acclaiming once dignity/wisdom and compassion as identity. European Union is about acclaiming once dignity as identity and to cultivate dignity because of european history.

    It was/is not the fault of Tibet/Tibetan people that communism/socialism/violence was/is hostile against wisdom and compassion/non-violence, because Tibetan people have accumulated merrit by dharma study and practice by the way.

    For the part with violence against Tibet, the people who accumulated karma/communism/socialism/violence where and are responsible for the violence but not Tibet/Tibetan people. Here we don’t accuse/blame chinese people, we are just aware of that something went wrong within China that was and is harmful for China/Chinese people and we want to apply wisdom and compassion to help China/Chinese people to come out of it for the freedom and wellbeing of China/Chinese people. Here we do care about China/Chinese people, we are not against China/Chinese people. So dharma/wisdom and compassion is not a problem for China/Chinese people at all.

    Again here we don’t blame/accuse China/someone at all because we understand the causes and therefore we study and practice wisdom and compassion for China/everyone to avoid and overcome causes of violence/suffering and violence/suffering. So here we offer our understanding and compassion for China/anyone and want to help China/anyone to overcome their problems by non-violence because only non-violence works. So we love China/Chinese people/anyone, we want Chinese people/anyone to live in freedom and wellbeing and support this by wisdom and compassion/non-violence because only this works. Unfortuneately some people don’t realise this and go against HHDL and CTA as well as people who teach and study dharma. We understand why and that’s why we continue to practice wisdom and compassion because only wisdom and compassion will help all of us.

    Dharma is talking about our identity/dignity/wisdom and compassion and how to cultivate our dignity, so dharma is not a problem but prevention/protection and solution/regeneration and healing if something went wrong. So people who teach, study and practice dharma are aware of this and only offer their support/understading and compassion for anyone/any nation/mankind.

    HHDL and CTA are not hostile against China/Chinese people, they only want to support China/Chinese people with their wisdom and compassion for the freefom and wellbeing of China/Chinese people, that’s all and that’s what they do all the time because they practice wisdom and compassion all the time.

    Tibet is not a problem for China but communism/socialism/capitalism/violence is an impermanent problem for China and Tibet that we only can overcome by wisdom and compassion.

    Identity of Chinese people/people of any nation is dignity/wisdom and compassion, to cultivate this is real culture and causes and effects freedom and wellbeing for any nation/mankind that has to deal with impermanent ignorance/violence because unfortuneately it is an impermanent part of reality. Any nation has this problem but any nation can deal with it with wisdom and compassion that will cause and effect freedom and wellbeing, to go on with capitalism/communism/socialism/violence will not work but only cause and effect more violence/suffering and a big crash for mankind at the end of the story.

    In Tibet they said, because impermanent ignorance and violence is a part of reality that we are all confronted with/facing, we have to deal with it and the best way to deal with it is to cultivate our identity/dignity that is wisdom and compassion because only with wisdom and compassion we can do our best to avoid and overcome causes of violence/suffering and violence/suffering because reality is non-duality/non-violence (When you read international law there is the advice to aknowledge once inherent dignity and to cultivate dignity). So they put a child on the throne, raised and educated this child in wisdom and compassion in order to be a teacher of wisdom and compassion for a nation in order to avoid and overcome causes of violence/suffering and violence/suffering by wisdom and compassion/non-violence because of reality is free of lastingness and non-existence/non-duality/non-violence. That’s intelligent, dharma is talking about intelligence/wisdom and compassion and how to cultivate it! We don’t need to do research to find out, dharma is here and we just need to study and practice dharma. We are fortuneate because of Tibet.

    Meanwhile other nations around the world continued to cultivate illusions that caused and effected many problems for themself and many other nations/beings. That’s not intelligent but narcissism/personality dissorder just because of ignoring that reality by itself is non-duality/free of non-existence and lastingness at the same time and missunderstanding reality. Today there is alot of talk about artificial “intelligence”, that is not talking about intelligence/wisdom and compassion at all but why is there no talk about dignity and to cultivate dignity? There is a big hype for artificial “intelligence” that has nothing to do with intelligence but how can mankind overcome causes of violence/suffering and violence/suffering with artificial “intelligence”? Can a robot cause and effect merrit, freedom and wellbeing for us? Like insert one coin, press the button and then nirvana happens to you? Would be nice but that’s not reality.

    Here we don’t blame someone but want to cultivate dignity finaly for the freedom and wellbeing for mankind/any nation. So dharma/wisdom and compassion is not a problem at all and it does not mean mankind has to become ordained and to live in caves as well as to paint wall pictures on the walls of the caves. Public hand and economy is mainly concerned about work and jobs but never ever concerned about understanding, motivation and actions. What is the understanding, what is the motivation and what are the actions? About the most important ascpect, because space and conciousness comes first it is the way that wisdom and compassion comes first, education is only about getting information in order to work/function in a treadmill like a hamster with the result of harmful causes and effects to once conciousness, the environemt, nature, animals and human beings/mankind. That’s called civilisation, well that’s a problem. We are not robots that need information in order to function/work in order to produce more impermanent luck that can’t make us happy or cause and effect freedom and wellbeing anyway because our freedom and wellbeing completely depends on our conciousness and state of conciousness.

    Some say evolution is a fight and that the most violent/strongest will survive, well that’s not what evolution is that also is in contradiction with the fact than bön is so many thousand years old and this culture of wisdom and compassion/non-violence is still here. Also just take a look into history of mankind as well as the the fact that when you cut your finger regeneration and healing will happen and that is evolution/regeneration and healing or non-violence/non-duality/reality/interdependence/impermanence as well as that violence has failed and fails because it is in contradiction with reality/non-duality/non-violence.

    So we don’t need to fight but can and should stop to fight because otherwise we will not survive because evolution will not stop to regenerate and heal. Cycle of elements is running and anything that is harmful/in contradiction has no chance to survive within this reality/non-duality/non-violence. So if we turn around this healing cause and effect, it becomes harmful cause and effect for ourself because we have turned it around, because we have made duality/violence out of non-duality/non-violence. But non-duality stays non-duality, so we can recover, mankind can recover, elements and nature can recover, we just need to stop violence by understanding non-violence/non-duality/reality by becoming aware of it by dharma study and practice.

    So we are not hostile against Germany or China or someone/nations but because we understand the importance to avoid and overcome causes of violence and violence, we study and practice dharma/wisdom and compassion for the benefit of Germany/Europe/China/any nation. So please don’t turn against people who teach, study and practice dharma/wisdom and compassion for freedom and wellbeing of mankind.

    Mankind/any nation deserves freedom and wellbeing unconditionally, that’s the natural “program/law/dharma/thatagat os” of space/reality/protection/regeneration and healing that is happening/there unconditionally, so any nation/mankind deserves dharma/wisdom and compassion/cultivating dignity because with violence we can’t cause and effect freedom and wellbeing because reality is non-violence/non-duality/protection/regeneration and healing. We can’ escape space, so we can’t espace reality/non-violence/non-duality. To create the illusion of duality and to escape from reality into duality/illusion/eternalism and nihilism/dualism/narcissism/capitalism/communism/socialism/ism, will not help but cause and effect many problems. That’s in contradiction with reality but unfortuneately ignorance/violence is a part of reality and the best/only way to deal with it, to avoid worse and to come out of it is wisdom and compassion/dharma/non-violence/non-duality/reality.

    Human beings have freedom to practice dignity/wisdom and compassion to avoid and overcome causes of violence/suffering and violence/suffering because they have conciousness because of space. This is for the benifit of all nations/human beings and animals, nature and mankind itself.

    Thing with duality is that it is in conflict with another that is that good and evil is in conflict with another as well as that good and evil is in conflct with non-duality/reality/non-violence itself.

    Good and bad actions are violence, one party says that good is right and evil is wrong and the other party says that evil is right and good is wrong. Non-duality says that there is no right and wrong but non-duality or non-violence/wisdom of non-duality and compassion that is free of good and evil/right and wrong and this is a problem for good and evil that are in conflict with another and with non-duality/reality/non-violence/wisdom and compassion/dharma.

    Non-duality as well as interdependence means that everything is connected, nothing is independent but dynamicly interdependent and therefore everything is impermanent that means life, protection, regeneration and healing or transformation/tantra/liberation/freedom and wellbeing. This is freedom or the only freedom that is available or there is this basic freedom of lastingness and non-existence, there is no other freedom than this basic freedom of lastingness and non-existence but this causes and effects freedom and wellbeing as long we don’t turn it around because then this turning around is what is harmful for ourself.

    The illusion of non-existence is where the illusions of evil, devil, death and aversion/bad actions arise from.
    The illusion of lastingness is where the illusions of good, god, only this life and attachment/good actions arise from.

    Here religions have a problem with dharma because they worship god that blocks them to cause and effect what they actually want to cause and effect. This god and devil duality is an betray system/spirit worship to keep beings into the illusion of duality/samsara. Samsara has a good and bad side and some people think that when they are on the good side that everything is fine but heaven/good/god and hell/bad/devil is not nirvana it’s samsara.

    “One Ring (duality/eternalism and nihilism/national law that contains the extremes of eternalism and nihilism) to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness (samsara/duality) bind them”

    Hey, we are not hamsters that run in a treadmill of Sauron/Satanism, we are buddhas!

    Satan turned away from reality/non-duality/non-violence and created the duality of lasting and non-existent, god and devil, eternalism and nihilism, attachment and aversion, good and bad actions. So to pray to god is also to pray to devil (god and devil duality) or spirit worship and this is keeping up satanism/dualism or to cause and effect an empire/kigdom of satan/dualism/eternalism and nihilism (globalisation one nation/all nations under god/devil satanism/eternalism and nihilism) that is made out of the illusion of duality/god and devil/lasting and non-existence duality.

    Satansim has two aspects one good aspect and one evil aspect like one coin is made out of two sides. Satanism/dualism/eternalism and nihilism has the two sides that is god and devil that is together and spirit worship and result is peace and war in the name of, right, god and devil (dualism/satanism/eternalism and nihililsm/just read national law, that’s the stuff/stanism). Yes, States/Republics/Religions with eternalism and nihilism/god and devil are satanic/dualistic cults of fallen angels that are in contradiction with reality/non-duality and that fight against teachers and students of dharma/wisdom and compassion.

    Like the hamsters are accusing/blaming the non-hamsters for being a hamster.

    Not to practice spirit worship/dualism and to turn away from dualisitc betray systems/satanism by taking refuge into buddha, dharma and sangha is wise and compassionate.

    Nirvana is free of peace and war, free of heaven and hell, because reality is free of lastingness and non-existence/duality or reality is non-duality. So reality is free of god and devil. Did Jesus teached dualism, did Johannes teached dualism, did Abraham teached dualism? Did ancient egypt failed because of non-duality or dualism?

    Do fallen angels want to create and globalise an empire of satanism/duality/dualism/eternalism and nihilism/violence?

    So called exorcism prayers contain good parts and bad parts that is white and black magic (spirit worship and are harmful spells but not dharma) in order to cause good and bad (that of course is not dharma that is about to cause and effect freedom from luck and pain/good and bad by wisdom of non-duality and compassion) to cause and effect hell realms for other beings/enemies (but what you wish for others effects once own conciousness so it effects yourself in a harmful way), of course that’s not loving kindness/wisdom and compassion/dharma. Dharma is about getting all out of heaven and hell and to avoid to cause and effect heaven and hell by wisdom of non-duality and compassion to cause and effect nirvana/wisdom and compassion that is the only freedom and wellbeing that is available.

    Within religion/states/republics, there is alot/something in contradiction with reality/non-duality/non-violence/dharma that is talking about that harmful (good and bad) actions have an harmful effect within our conciousness and that with applying wisdom and compassion there is regeneration and healing happening that pills can’t do at all/pills can’t perform wisdom and compassion. Well i have never seen a pill that can practice wisdom and compassion but i have seen that by selling pills they can make alot of money and sideeffects to make money with again.

    Remeber the Mask of Guge, that was made out of scriptures (dualism/satanism) that missionary brought to the tibetan region and they said/say that tibetan culture (wisdom and compassion/non-duality/reality/free of lastingness and non-existence) is evil and spirit worship (They accuse others for something they do/narcissism/dualism) and fight against wisdom and compassion/non-duality/reality. The holy ghost that jesus was talking about is the wisdom mind that buddha was talking about and all aspects of conciousness are so called deitites. People from christianity fight against the holy ghost/wisdom mind, that’s satanism/narcissism/personality dissorder and pills won’t help but make money and environment pollution (water) that effects animals as well.

    So maybe those people first should study and learn about dharma before projecting something onto dharma that is not there at all. Would help them to avoid creating many problems for themself.

    This Mask of Guge is a perfect pice of spiritual art (Mask of Religion/Dualism/Dualistic betray systems/Satanism) and how people deceive themself with duality and try to deceive others with dualism in order to cause and effect that they also start to practice satanism/dualism/their cult with them and also fight against people who teach, study and practice dharma/wisdom and compassion/non-duality/reality and to blame/accuse them for whatever. That’s narcissism/satanism.

    Please don’t follow dualistic betray systems/satanism/harmful spirits/dualism. They are deceived and don’t realise it as well as don’t realise what happend with ancient egypt and why and what happend in history because of this dualism that is basis for many states/republics today that also will fail because of this dualism/eternalism and nihilism/satanism.

    In The Lord of the Rings, it is Sauron (harmful spirit/view/motivation/action) who works with Saruman (Religion) because he subdues himself to Sauron to take over and control middle earth with the Kings that where manipulated by spells in order to control them and their people/all nations.

    HHDL and CTA don’t want that Tibetan people/human beings are the hamsters in treadmills of an dualistic betray system by the way.

    States/Republic/Religions are not what it looks like, check the national law for eternalism and nihilism (dualism) and find out about the betray system that is running in order to rule them all, to find them, to bring them all and in the darkness (samsara/duality) bind them with duality/dualistic betray systems that fight against dharma/non-duality/wisdom and compassion and will fail of course.

    We know the happy end of the story already, because reality is regeneration and healing, because it is free of lastingness and non-existence/duality. So you will have no chance against a limitless space and it’s wise and compassionate beings here within this realm.

    That’s why buddhas say to only take refuge into the light/non-dual conciousness/wisdom and compassion within ourself. Lamas are talking about the inner refuge/deities/aspects of our wisdom and compassion/light within ourself.

    Buddha/Lama is Dharmakaya – Sky (Essence/View), Dharma/Yidam is Sambhogakaya – Sun (Nature/Motivation/5 Aspect of Wisdom and Compassion), Sangha/Khandro is Nirmanakaya – Sunrays (Healing Power/Action/6 Paramitas/Enlightnend Activity).

    Reality is free of lastingness and non-existence, free of duality like good and evil, god and devil, good and bad, friend and enemy. Reality by itself is non-dual, pure, protection, regeneration, healing (view-dharmakaya-sky) and loving kindness motivation (5 aspects of wisdom and compassion/Bodhichitta-sambhokayaka-sun) and non-violence (6 paramitas/enlightnend activity-nirmanakaya-sunrays).

    And these three kayas are our identity/conciousness and our human psychophysical body is an nirmanakaya emanation/expression of non-duality/non-violence/wisdom and compassion. Our body is the seat of all peaceful and wrathful deities/aspects, our body is our pure mandala-house and the environment is the human realm where we perform/study and practice wisdom and compassion for the benifit/freedom and wellbeing of all beings.

    When you go to a concentration camp there is a lable that says that work liberates and lobbyism talks about work and jobs but they never talked/talk about wisdom, compassion and 6 paramitas, isn’t it. Work does not liberate and we understand that only wisdom and compassion protects and liberates, so wisdom and compassion first!

    To understand Tibet and Tibetan culture a little bit non-dual perception and experience of reality is required. But once you have experienced non-dual perception and experience of reality, even just for a short time, you’ll start to understand Tibet and Tibetan culture or dharma culture much better. Then you will understand Buddha, then you will understand Dharma, then you will understand Sangha, then you will understand Ghandi, then you will understand HHDL and CTA.

    Please give non-duality/reality/non-violence a chance.

    There is violence/good and bad actions/suffering that is impermanent, that means that violence/good and bad actions/suffering has causes that are impermanent, that means that we can avoid causes of violence/good and bad actions/suffering and violence/good and bad actions/suffering, that means that there is a way to avoid causes of violence/good and bad actions/suffering and violence/good and bad actions/suffering that is dharma/non-violence/non-duality/wisdom and compassion.

    Please don’t turn mankind into hamsters that run in a treadmill of an kingdom of hamsters to keep up the kingdom of hamsters until it crashes itself and all hamsters. Human beings are not hamsters they are buddhas (wise and compassionate human beings).

    May all dharmapalas protect all teachers and students of dharma with their wisdom of non-duality and compassion. And may Vajrakilaya destroy all harmful powers within all beings that are hostile to wisdom and compassion. May all students of dharma realise their nirmanakaya, sambhogakaya and dharmakaya aspects swiftly, may the blessings of all enlightenend beings support them and may all dakas and dakinis inspire all students of dharma to study and practice dharma.

    Love you all.

    Namo Nepal/Shakyamuni
    Namo Buddha
    Namo Dharma
    Namo Sangha

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