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By: Ashok Rao
There exists today four main schools of Tibetan Buddhism, one of which is the Kagyu school. One of the main sub-sects of the Kagyu school is the Karma Kagyu lineage headed by a leader referred to as the Karmapa. Each year, this lineage celebrates the Kagyu Monlam Chenmo (Great Prayer Festival), a tradition established by His Holiness the 7th Karmapa Chodrak Gyatso to bring together members of the Karma Kagyu lineage to pray for the benefit of all sentient beings. After the Tibetans entered into exile in India, the tradition was revived in 1983 by His Eminence Kalu Rinpoche and His Eminence Bokar Rinpoche. Since then it has once again been used to promote peace and harmony.
This year, attendees at the Kagyu Monlam Festival received a special broadcast from one of the two Karmapa candidates, Ogyen Trinley Dorje. In what was billed a “special message”, he openly expressed his frustration, the reasons for his frustration and, in his own words, his ‘depression’. He criticized the behavior of the Karma Kagyu high lamas, spoke of his disappointment at having been controlled for more than 18 years of his life, and subtly blamed the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA; Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala) for interfering in the lineage, bringing about the division and issues they face today.
The message was a very brave move for such a prominent figure, as there is no freedom of speech within the Tibetan settlements. Those who criticize the CTA usually find themselves on the receiving end of violent repercussions. It therefore speaks volumes that the Karmapa’s special message was recorded in the United States, away from the domineering control of the CTA in India. And so instead of broadcasting a straightforward Dharma teaching to millions of Karma Kagyu devotees worldwide, Ogyen Trinley chose to use the platform to criticize the CTA. It is an act that reflects the gravity of his situation and its impact on the survival of the lineage. Many of the points Ogyen Trinley spoke about struck at the heart of political issues facing Tibetan Buddhism today:
- He did not receive a proper spiritual education. Having left Tibet at an early age, Ogyen Trinley thought his training in India would be comprehensive and complete. But many factors were not in his favor: the lineage was in tatters following the CTA’s interference, Karma Kagyu lamas were scattered around India and the world, and his movements were tightly controlled by the CTA. As a result, he did not have much opportunity to learn and thus he feels that he is deceiving the public. He feels he is not qualified to teach and to handle what is required of him.
- He was forced to be involved in politics, something he was ill-prepared to deal with. Ogyen Trinley said that historically, the Karmapas are purely spiritual leaders who are not politically involved. And even in this, he was forced to disregard his lineage’s traditions. Ill-equipped to deal with political life, he ended up making many errors which have plagued him for more than 18 years. There is only one group who could have forced him to do this – the Tibetan leadership. Thus, in saying he was ill-prepared to meet with various leaders and officials, he implied that it was the CTA who failed to provide him with the training and guidance necessary to be successful.
- So not only did he fail to receive a complete spiritual education, but he was also not given the tools to succeed in a secular environment. Ogyen Trinley reiterated the Buddhist teachings that politics derive only short-term benefits, whereas spiritual pursuits are for longer, more meaningful results. He made multiple references to his wish to engage in spiritual practice, and mentioned that in his youth and desperation, he had even contemplated studying within the Gelug system, thus portraying his genuine non-sectarian nature. It is no surprise that Ogyen Trinley would have thought of this – not only is the Gelug system known for its rigorous structure of study, but the previous 16th Karmapa, Rangjung Rigpe Dorje, was known to have been extremely close to Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. Both lamas are considered to be of the same mindstream, as Trijang Rinpoche’s incarnation lineage includes the 8th Karmapa Mikyo Dorje. In watching his speech, one cannot help but think of Ogyen Trinley as a sincere Dharma practitioner who was forced into a political role to be exploited by the CTA to challenge the Chinese leadership, with no regard for his spiritual responsibilities and gains.
- He has been controlled for most of his life and implied that his managers and staff failed him. The fact Ogyen Trinley failed to receive a proper education is not only the CTA’s responsibility, but also his managers’ whom he implies have controlled him his entire life. As a child, offerings made to him were opened and inspected by his attendants, and then he never saw them again. Those who sought audience with him even learned to sneak monetary offerings under his cushion when no one was looking. His attendants were similarly untrained in politics and as a result, he received bad advice.
- To this day, he does not even have a monastery of his own. It is extremely unusual for someone of his position, touted to be the head of the Karma Kagyu lineage, to be living at the Gelug tantric monastery of Gyuto. He is not allowed to set foot in Rumtek Monastery, the seat of the Karmapas in India, since the issue of the two Karmapas came to blows in 2000. At that time, the Indian Border Police were forced to intervene and bar both Karmapa candidates from entering Rumtek, fearing further security issues. Although it was the CTA who caused this two Karmapa issue by interfering in the recognition process, they failed to do anything to improve upon the division, for example by creating a monastery for Ogyen Trinley to preside over. The logical conclusion is that they wish for him to remain under their control; being at Gyuto and without his own monastery, Ogyen Trinley cannot grow a powerbase of his own which allows them to keep him under their thumb. This, coupled with his lack of a formal education, suggests he is being exploited by the CTA to be a pawn, rather than the head of a rich religious tradition or even just a practitioner of the Buddha’s teachings.
- There is no end in sight to the Karma Kagyu split. In his speech Ogyen Trinley made a lengthy reference to the deep split in the lineage. After the passing of the 16th Karmapa, two candidates for his reincarnation were identified – one, Trinley Thaye Dorje, was recognized by His Eminence Shamar Rinpoche, who traditionally holds the authority to make such a recognition. On the other hand, Ogyen Trinley Dorje himself was recognized as the other Karmapa candidate by the Kagyu lama Tai Situpa Rinpoche, a choice backed by His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The dual recognition of a Karmapa candidate tore the lineage in half and since then, this rift has never healed although Ogyen Trinley sought to meet the Shamarpa in the past to work on the divide. While nothing fruitful came of the meeting, Ogyen Trinley spoke of his respect and admiration for the line of Shamarpas, stating that they should not be removed from the supplication prayers to the lineage lamas, as some have argued, no doubt under the influence of the CTA, whom the Shamarpa bravely defied. Interesting point to note: Ogyen Trinley was also selected by the Chinese government in Tibet as the Karmapa. The Dalai Lama accepts China’s choice of Karmapa but it is strange that the Dalai Lama will not accept China’s choice of Panchen Rinpoche.
- The CTA has a trend of splitting lineages and keeping them divided. The message from Ogyen Trinley is clear – the CTA intentionally interfered in the Karma Kagyu’s religious affairs and after splitting the lineage, did not lift a single finger to mend the rift or even mediate between both parties. But why would they? They created the issue in the first place, dividing large groups of people in order to weaken and conquer them. Likewise, the CTA instigated the unjust and illegal ban against Dorje Shugden practitioners, splitting the Gelug lineage in half as well. It is clear the CTA does not care about spiritual practice or its preservation; the only thing that matters is political dominance over the Tibetan people and they have achieved this by attacking what is at the very heart of Tibetan culture – its religion.
- His speaking out may encourage other dually-recognized lamas to speak out. The CTA are well known for recognizing lamas whose incarnations have already been recognized by the spiritual leaders of their own traditions. In addition to the Karmapas, the CTA have also recognized a second incarnation of His Holiness the Panchen Lama, His Eminence Domo Geshe Rinpoche and His Eminence Kundeling Rinpoche. Identifying a reincarnation of their own is a ploy by the CTA to retain their power through spiritual manipulation; since that particular individual received recognition from the CTA, when they grow older, the CTA assumes they will be somehow beholden to the Tibetan leadership and therefore obligated to enforce their diktats. But we know that Ogyen Trinley, as one of two Karmapa candidates, has refused to speak negatively against Dorje Shugden and in his Kagyu Monlam video, said that he dislikes politics and does not wish to be involved. So given Ogyen Trinley’s candid and open refusal to be manipulated by the CTA, his actions may perhaps encourage other dually-recognized lamas or those forced into political positions to speak up about their treatment at the hands of the unscrupulous CTA.
- Ogyen Trinley reiterated that he is a normal person. Contrary to common perception of the Karmapa’s nature and his role, he states on numerous occasions in his video that he is an ordinary person. He paints himself as someone who has to work at his spiritual progress, who may have somehow fallen behind in his knowledge due to being poorly educated. This is in contrast with the CTA’s portrayal of him as a superhuman, all-knowing enlightened being, and a direct counter of their stance regarding his spiritual attainments. In fact, he has mentioned twice that he feels very depressed, which is strange for a person whose life’s work is to teach others to be happy yet he himself is depressed.
- Hence doubt is cast over the Dalai Lama’s recognition of him as the rightful Karmapa candidate. Ogyen Trinley reiterated so frequently that he is just an ordinary person that one might be led to think he is casting doubt on his recognition as the Karmapa, and even implying that the Dalai Lama may have been wrong to recognize him. The implications of this would be disastrous for the CTA, as each and every reincarnation they have recognized will then be opened to being questioned. If the CTA can be wrong on such significant decisions related to the key leaders of many spiritual lineages, how many other mistakes have they made throughout the years that have been unaccounted for? If the Dalai Lama can be wrong on something as important as the rightful Karmapa, how many other errors have been made? Are the Dalai Lama and the CTA wrong about imposing the ban on Dorje Shugden too? The Tibetan leadership would be exposed as the fake and inefficient leadership that they really are, relying on spiritual and religious traditions to maintain their oppressive control over the Tibetans rather than any genuine political prowess.
- Most listeners come away with the conclusion that Ogyen Trinley is planning to abdicate. What would happen if he abdicated? It could lead to the destruction of the Karma Kagyu lineage, where the Kagyus under Ogyen Trinley would fade out of existence. It might also lead to its reunification under one Karmapa candidate, Trinley Thaye Dorje, who was recognized according to tradition by the Shamarpa.
- For a Karmapa candidate to so explicitly state that he is depressed is unprecedented. What many are asking is, how can the emanation of a being meant to be the cause and happiness of others be unhappy himself? How can he teach others to overcome their depression and gain happiness, when he himself is so unhappy? The only two possible conclusions that can be arrived at are, he is not the real reincarnation of the Karmapa or he is manifesting disappointment at the treatment he has suffered at the hands of the CTA. Neither conclusion is particularly pleasant for the CTA – in the first scenario, they made an error in identifying the Karmapa, thereby causing 18 years of division in the Karma Kagyu sect, for ultimately no reason other than self-gain, and political control and manipulation. In the second scenario, they have treated him so badly that he feels the need to speak out against them.
- Either way, it is clear that the CTA are losing control. Their abuse of Ogyen Trinley for more than 18 years has finally come to a head. Controlled by them for their own twisted agendas, Ogyen Trinley is now revealing the truth behind the CTA’s duplicitous nature. What is most significant is that he is the purported head of a lineage who has received the CTA’s stamp of approval, and who is now speaking up against them. This will not be the only battle that the CTA has to contend with. Many other sectors of Tibetan society are speaking up, for example Thupten Choephel of Sera Jey Monastery who is threatening self-immolation if the CTA does not stop their abuse and exploitation of the Tibetan people. Political trends have also shifted – in India, for example, the government now clearly favors a friendship with China over supporting the Tibetans in exile. The CTA are losing their grip over all areas of Tibetan life, from politics to religion.
When will it end?
The CTA’s machinations within the Karma Kagyu lineage have led to a huge rift within the tradition. They engineered the split of the lineage with their recognition of a second Karmapa candidate, whose life they have controlled and whose spiritual education they have neglected. Foreseeing potential problems with the Shamarpa’s reincarnation, Ogyen Trinley himself warns against two Shamarpas being recognized. This is a very real possibility as the CTA, who have battled with many successive Shamarpa incarnations, will be tempted to recognize their own candidate in order to control him too. However, should they recognize their own Shamarpa, Ogyen Trinley warns that the Karma Kagyu school will be further split and the CTA will have directly caused the irreversible destruction of the unity of the lineage.
Coupled with the other divisive policies that the CTA enforces such as the ban on Dorje Shugden practice, the CTA are single-handedly causing the destruction of Tibetan Buddhism as a whole. Ogyen Trinley Dorje, as one of two Karmapa candidates knows this from his own personal experience, and his views are clear evidence of this.
Ogyen Trinley’s speech indicate that he is a true spiritual practitioner, disinterested in the manipulative politics of the CTA but passionate about the genuine teachings of the Buddha – peace, harmony and the cohesion of spiritual traditions. Unfortunately, and much to his disappointment, he has not received any of this whilst under the control of the CTA. The Tibetan leadership should take his message as a real wake-up call to heal the rifts that they have caused to the fabric of Tibetan life, not only within the Karma Kagyu tradition but also with Dorje Shugden practitioners. If they really care about the survival of the Tibetan culture and tradition as they so often claim, they had better start making amends, lest their actions lead to the complete destruction of Tibetan life in the future.
Special Message from the Karmapa – English
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Transcript: Special Message from the Karmapa
Today is the last day of the 35th Kagyu Monlam Chenmo. And so, just as I have requested of him, this year His Eminence Goshir Gyaltsab Rinpoche has gone to unfathomable efforts to come and preside over the Kagyu Monlam. My original plan was that Rinpoche only needed to attend a few of the most important events and did not need to come to everything but Rinpoche has, whenever he has been able, come to preside over the sessions whenever he could without missing a single day. This is extremely kind of him, so on the behalf of all the monastics and the lay people who had attended the Monlam, I would like to express my deepest thanks to Rinpoche.
Likewise, Kyabje Mingyur Rinpoche showed us the kindness of giving meditation instructions during the pre-Monlam teachings. And then, since then during the time of the Kagyu Monlam, Rinpoche has also put in a lot of effort to come to many different events, both large and small. So, I would like to ask, and once again thank Rinpoche on behalf of everyone.
This year even though I was not there, everyone in the Monlam organising committee has taken on the responsibilities for their individual teams and co-operated, working together, just the same as they would if I were there. The results of their work has produced are no different than how they would have been, were I there, so I would like to take this opportunity to give my heartfelt thanks to Lama Choedak, foremost amongst the Monlam workers and all the other workers as well. Thank you very much.Likewise, the monks and nuns from the various monasteries, despite the fact that the weather has been very hot, they have been very exemplary and praiseworthy in all respect during this Monlam in terms of the motivation, conduct and everything else, even in the heat. So, I would like to also say thank you very much to all of you as well.
Likewise, the faithful people who come from foreign countries, this year there have been many changes in the Monlam dates. This has caused you difficulties financially and once you arrive here, the weather has been hot and caused you even more difficulties but all of you participating makes the Kagyu Monlam into an international event. I think it shows that no matter where in the world we are from, our wishes are in unison, our wishes for world peace are in unison. Our wishes that all sentients be happy are in unison and so I would like to thank you all deeply.
Likewise, the place where we hold the Monlam is the sacred site of Bodhgaya, the noble land of India. The government of India, the federal government as well as the state government of Bihar and the local administration have all provided a great deal of assistance. Likewise, the administration of the Maha Devi temple has also continually supported us not only in the past but also in the present, so I would like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation and thanks to all of them.
Till today, at first, I didn’t think I needed to say too much. But now I would like to take this opportunity to say a few things and I think that maybe it will bring a little bit of benefit. So, the main thing to talk about is that many people have been asking when the next Kagyu Monlam, the 36th would be held. They are also asking for the time to be fixed and not changed. Quite a few people had said this and generally from our point, we have gone through a lot of effort to have a definite schedule that didn’t change but sometimes there are events with other Lamas, other great Lamas and Monlams from other lineages that are being held at the same time and when they conflict with each other then it is not very easy for us or for them. And for that reason, we have had to postpone or change our dates for such reasons several times. Even though we have not wanted to reschedule there have been situations where we have no choice but to do so. But we are doing everything we can to avoid having to change our dates in the future. In the next few days, we will have meetings to decide on a fixed time for the Monlam. We will have free discussions about the schedule in the meetings and do our best to make a decision as soon as we can. And once we have decided, we will announce it immediately over the internet so that everyone can make advance preparation to come to the next Monlam. So, try our hardest, we will try our hardest to inform you as soon as we can.
This year I really didn’t have the opportunity to attend the Monlam in person. However, as I have already said, the Monlam has been excellent and well-organised, no different from that if I were there. And when I think about it, I was recognised as the Karmapa at the age of 7. And then at the age of 14, I was separated from Tibet and come to the noble land of India. Thinking about how it was when I went from being a little boy who didn’t really understand what a Karmapa is to being brought and put on the Karmapa’s throne and gradually having to take the responsibilities that it entails, from my perspective, the Karmapa has the history of over 900 years and there have been 16 incarnations. To have qualities and abundance realisations such as they did and activities such as theirs, I don’t even have the confidence that I can even hope for such. And I don’t, for myself, really believe that it would ever happen. But because I have received the blessings of the Karmapa to some degree, I have done my best. I have done my best but I am an ordinary person. So, no matter how much hard I try, there are many other situations where that is not enough, where it is beyond me.
Many people think to themselves that being the Karmapa, you know is like some incredible thing but for me, that hasn’t happened, even if I am the Karmapa. The situation is still that really need to try hard. Gyelwa Kunsapa said, “Even the rebirth, reincarnation of a Lama or a Tulku, should spend 12 years of purification, practicing meditation to purify their remaining obstacles. It is necessary to practise meditation and accomplishment and retreats”. So, even if one is a Tulku or a reincarnation of a great Lama, you have to put in such efforts. For me, I don’t have any reasons or any basis to say that I am the reincarnation of any great Lama and since I am an ordinary person, I have to put in incredible effort even more than other people. But no matter how much effort I make, it is never enough, it is never ok. It never really reaches a level where it is sufficient. And for one side, this is people have such high limitless hopes in me. On my own part, I do my absolute best to try to live up to them. And I do this with as much as I can with the pure motivation.
When I was little, a lot of people came to give me advice. They’d say, “You have to be really careful. There are many people who have said to me Karmapa, so you have to be your best”. So many people said this but for my own part, I never had the motivation that I should compete with everyone else said to be Karmapa and therefore be careful.
For my own point, I have had a pure motivation. Whatever I am, directing my best efforts no matter what. When I was, even when I was studying at Tibet, in terms of my education, my tutors, my teachers and my tutors, the way they paid respect and so forth, were not the greatest and once I arrived in India, one reason I came to India was to study and to receive the Dharma lineages, that is why I came.
So once I arrived, it should have been better than it had been in Tibet, but in terms of my education, there were many gaps. From one perspective, the fault was my own for being too lazy. And also, I am pretty smart and since I am pretty smart, no matter what I study I immediately get a little bored and think, “I get it”. Then I immediately feel disinterested. In addition to that, the Lamas and Khenpos whom I study with, we invited the best Lamas and Khenpos amongst our Kagyus but the best Lamas and Khenpos have their own monasteries, their own Dharma centres that they have to maintain and take care off, they have activities. Hence, they could not spend all their time with me. So, for these reasons, sometimes I would have all these classes and sometimes I would not and this happened frequently.
In the past, I had the thought that if I went to a Gelugpa monastery, matriculated so to speak and followed the curriculum, I would have become a good scholar. But later when I thought about it, if I had gone to a Gelugpa monastery and gone through the studies, on the one side, there would have been nothing wrong with it. But on the other instance, I have the title Karmapa. If the Karmapa were to go to a Gelugpa monastery to study, people would say that and in the future, someone with the head of the overall, the title of the overall, head of the Kagyu were to do this, it’s like would be a bit of a problem that happened historically.
So, I‘ve had many different discussions with Gelugpa geshes but I’ve never matriculated in a Gelug monastery. So, this is one issue. My own studies have not all been that high quality or good. Mainly what I know has come from me taking interest and putting the effort into it. I never had any properly organized, thorough, education. So, that’s one issue.
So, another issue is that, when I was recognized as Karmapa when I was 7, so I was just a little boy. From the time I was little, I grew up in Tsurphu Monastery. And when I was little, all the people around me were adults. So I had to do whatever they told me to. And I couldn’t say what I needed to do.
At first, of course, I didn’t know what I needed to do. And in addition to that, other than listen to them, I never had any freedom to say what I should do or should not do. Actually, when I was little, I did have a lot of hard times. For example, in terms of power, it’s the changtso had all the power. And when people would come to give me gifts, they first of all had to take to the changtso, the changtso would take them out and open all the gifts first. And those people were suspicious that there might be a bomb or poison or something like that. So, they would take them out to check to see, they take the gifts out to make sure that there is no bomb or poison. And once the gifts had been taken away, they were never brought back, almost all of them.
Also people would come to give me money to say it was for me to give my parents. Those who knew my situation would give me money surreptitiously. At that time, there was a lot of people around right? So without knowing, they quickly slipped it under my cushion, slipped it under my cushion secretly. That’s what it was like. So, that’s what it was like when I was little.
I never really felt that I had any freedom of my own. And then I came to India. See, when I came to India, India is a free country, a democracy. So I’d hoped that when I arrived, I could do whatever I wanted. That was my hope. But when I first got to India, none of us had any knowledge about India. And at that time, the people who advised me, the people… my guides, the people who advised me, even though they definitely had pure motivation, there was none who was able to guide me, who was a hundred percent reliable. They didn’t know how things were done. So I had no one to guide me. So when we first began discussions with the Indian government, there was disharmony and disagreement in the discussion and this probably caused some suspicions. In any case, I’ve spent eighteen years in India. And during this time, I have had continually difficulties and hassles as you all know. They said that I was sent by the Chinese or that I was a Chinese spy.
Many things have happened. But even though many things have happened, I still have done what that I could. The reason why I stayed right up until now is because I feel like I must not give up on the teachings, the Kagyu teachings. Likewise, I thought that to myself that this is for the benefit of Tibet, for the benefit of all sentient beings. Thinking in this way, I stayed. Also from another perspective, when I arrived in India, it was very fortunate. I had the fortune to meet His Holiness the Dalai Lama and hear his teachings. I had many opportunities to receive profound Dharma teachings from Chamgon Tai Situ Rinpoche and Goshir Gyaltsab Rinpoche. Likewise, I’ve had the opportunity to receive profound Dharma teachings from Tangur Rinpoche, Bokar Ripoche and Yongzin Thrangu Rinpoche. And I feel all of this has been very, very fortunate. Where I live is Gyuto Monastery and the heart sons they live elsewhere, Situ Rinpoche lives in Sherab Ling, Gyaltsab Rinpoche lives in Sikkim. There’s never been a place for us to spend an extended period of time at the same place. It’s like we’re all been scattered.
When I read the lives of the previous Karmapas, the Karmapas and their heart sons all stayed together. Wherever they went, they went together. Whether it’s by teaching the Dharma, or by taking care of each other. It was like at that time, they all took care of each other but this has never happened with me. And for me, this is something I feel very disappointed about.
Then, to speak bluntly. After the 16th Karmapa passed away, we had a great rift in our Kamtsang lineage. I don’t need to say anything any more about the old situations. But because of this, we have had some disagreements among the ladrangs. Many things have happened since I arrived in India. Some of you know, some don’t. There has been a lot disharmony among the ladrangs and this has also caused me a lot of worries.
On one occasion, I invited Chamgon Tai Situ Rinpoche and Goshri Gyaltsab to come to Delhi, both Rinpoches are quite like the moon and the clouds in the sky. They are not stained by any thoughts but those who are underneath them, their attendants, and I told them to tell their attendants, the people under them that we have had a great disaster in the Kamtsang lineage. Such has never happened before. We’ve had been a huge conflict. We’ve had a terrible violation of samsara, please do what you can to avoid that again. This is what I asked both Rinpoches. And they both promised to do as I asked. Actually, to make such a request is like teaching Avalokiteshvara the Mani mantra, you shouldn’t have to say to that extent but I was too petty, too small minded and asked.
Also thinking that maybe it would be of benefit to the Karma Kaygu teachings, I went to see Kunzig Shamar Rinpoche. And when we arranged a meeting on our side shall we say, there were people who’d said that it would not be okay to make a bad connection. Quite a few people said this. Some who were nearby said this vociferously. But I ignored that and I went to Shamar Rinpoche and when we met, there was no really specific result you could point to.
But now, Rinpoche has passed away, and I do feel a bit of comfort in my mind, that at least I was able to meet Rinpoche and tell him what I thought. So, this gives me a little bit of comfort. In general, we all know how important the Shamar Rinpoche has been in the history of the Karma Kagyu. But in the last few years, in the last couple of decades, so many events have occurred that many people say we should not recite long life prayers for Shamar Rinpoche and that we should remove the Shamar Rinpoches from our lineage supplications.
But I think that that is really not seeing the important points, because Shamar Rinpoche is not just the recent 14th Shamar Miphang Chokyi Lodro, The Shamar Rinpoche is a part of the old lineage of Karma Kamtsang. The lineage from Drakpo Sengge to the present. It is not the name of the single person, it is not a single person.
No matter how much the people say that the actions of the current Shamar Rinpoche were wrong, I think that we must not paint the activities of the entire Shamar lineage black. For this reason, I think that we must have a positive way of thinking about Shamar Rinpoche. I think we need to think about Buddhism in general and the lineage in the future.
Now Shamar Rinpoche has passed away. It is extremely important that there be no problems regarding his reincarnation. We have another situation or we say there’s two different reincarnations. It will harm the Kamtsang in general and in future, the Kamtsang will split into two factions, looking at each other as enemies and that would not be good in any way at all.
From the depths of my heart, I think we can have reconciliation. And I am doing a few things to bring that about. But it’s not something for one person to do. It’s so crucial to remember that both sides need to be open. If we continue to always say bad things about each other and criticize each other. If we continue to do that, I do not think it will turn out well.
Our teachings at the Kamtsang are the same. Our Gurus the same. The colour of our hats is the same. But despite this, if we continue to cling to our own factions, no matter how right we are, we have such bias towards our sides, we will work for ourselves, to win for ourselves to defeat the others. Taking this on would be like a complete mistake. There’ll be nothing good about it. So, we often say there is the Shamar side and there is the Situ side. One side or the other. Actually we aren’t on the Situ Rinpoche side, we aren’t on the Shamar Rinpoche side. We are all on the Karma Kagyu side.
Otherwise, we’re filled with our own afflictions, the three poisons; we engage in partisanship and jealousy and at the same time say… and while we still do that we still… how to say… and if at that point we say I’m on Vajradhara’s side. There’s no benefit to that at all.
So these people say I’m pure, he’s pure, he’s a pure Kagyupa but they’re not pure. But whether one is pure or not comes down to the practice we have in our mindstreams. It does not come down to whose side we are on. I think this is something we all need to keep in mind.
Another thing is that I’m in America. I spent many months abroad, the last six months in America. There are probably a lot of people who explain the reasons why I stayed abroad for such a long time. But independent of anyone else’s explanations, what I’d like to say is that the main reason I am staying abroad is that when I had a medical exam in Germany, they told me that I had a medical problem. So then I had an .?.. (27.38) and for his sake I had to go to America and once I arrived there, I had to follow up on the medical problem they had told me when I was in Germany, and so that is for the reason.
Another matter is that, you know, for many years I’ve never had the opportunity to really rest — to rest both the body and the mind.
Once I get back to India, there’ll be a lot of busy-ness and frenetic-ness so I would not be able to rest. So, I had stayed here to rest.
So, I stayed here because I’m thinking of the long term.
Probably many people have said that I’m staying for my own personal benefit or that I had some insidious plan, but that is not it at all.
In brief, people think that I’m decisive and that whatever I’m doing, they say, “He’s the Karmapa,” so of course they’ll take it as definite the case but for me, it’s not like that.
No matter what decision I make or what action I do, there’s a lot I have to give up.
For my own part, I’ve done everything I could up till now. Everything I’ve done, I have done with a pure motivation. I’ve had a pure motivation but people will make things up. There are many people who make things up out of dislike, and there is nothing to do about that.
But amongst ourselves, there are many people who give incorrect explanations because they either do not know or do not understand what my real intentions are. Especially now that I’m staying in America, even the people I am around here have had a lot of anxiety. Likewise many people all over have had a lot of anxiety. And I have actually myself been quite downcast and depressed. This is because when other people look at what I have tried to do, they take it as a matter of course, but for my own part, I have had to give up a lot. None of it has been easy.
And even though it has been easy and when I ignore that and keep pushing ahead, if those around me do not believe in me then there’s no reason for me to pretend and keep going. So for that reason, I have been depressed.
But when you think about it from the perspective of the future, from the time of the first Karmapa, Düsum Khyenpa, to the present, the Gyalwa Karmapa has been a Lama who has engaged only in Dharma activities, not one who has been involved in politics.
And now we’re at a critical time for the Snow Land of Tibet — we have come to a point where it is important to put effort into both Dharma and politics. So for this reason we definitely need a political leader or a political guide. But for me, I don’t know how to give any political direction. I don’t know how to do this but since I have the title of Karmapa, it would not be appropriate.
Likewise, in terms of the dharma, the way I think to myself is that one does politics to accomplish short-term aims and benefit. Now, political people, they’re always changing. And also, politics means dividing into factions and then dividing into groups then trying to find profit and benefit.
But Dharma, Dharma means not divide into factions but instead bring benefit to all sentient beings who are as limitless as space. Its duration is that people don’t change posts immediately. Dharma is for protecting ourselves in this and in future lifetimes and for guiding ourselves in this until thereafter.
So the way Dharma and politics work is completely different. Since I have the responsibility of being a religious leader, I can only contend in the direction of the Dharma. When I was in Tibet, I was worried that I would have to get involved in politics. Once I arrived in India, I’ve always thought that if it came to me having to do political activities, I would not have the skills to do it, I wouldn’t know how to do it and I have no wish to do so. This is another important point for people to take into consideration.
In brief, from my own perspective, I don’t have such qualities of abundant realisations as the previous Karmapas had. If I, even though I lack those, were to continue to pretend, to deceive people, I feel I will be accumulating severely negative karma.
I have no feeling of delight, no thought of ‘I’ll get rich’ or have power or that many people like me, I don’t have any such… feel like there’s nothing I have to feel such pride or confidence in. So sometimes I think there’s no point. There’s no point to continue deceiving others.
Sometimes I think it would be better to just live as an ordinary person, an ordinary Dharma practitioner. I sometimes think that and especially recently I felt this strongly.
This is because I have worked hard for many years but I can’t work hard all by myself. A single pillar can’t hold up a single building, can it? Everyone needs to work hard and help out. We say that everyone has to have people to take care of them. If you’re taking money you need somebody to take care of you.
Without any support for yourself, there’s no benefit to teaching and helping sentient beings all by yourself. We, Buddhists, believe in karmic cause and effect. We believe in the view of inter-dependence. Inter-dependence means that in all situations, no matter what they may be, occur because of multiple causes (and) conditions. There’s nothing that can be accomplished with a single cause or a single condition. This is something that everyone needs to take into consideration.
In brief, our Kagyu lineage in general, and in particular the Karma Kamtsang, it’s like we’re a big family. It’s like a big family and in this family, the Gyalwa Karmapa is like the father of the family. But the father can’t take all the responsibility alone. The support of all the family members is needed.
Likewise, if you think about the history of the Kagyu lineage, and in particular the Karma Kamtsang, there have been many losses. For example, when the Mongol Gushen invaded, their armies razed many Karma Kamtsang monasteries and many lineages of practices and explanations were lost. Such terrible events have occurred and later after 1959, there was the Cultural Revolution.
So now we have an opportunity for the teachers to revive and flourish so I’d like to ask everyone, to ask everyone to take this opportunity as your own and to make efforts.
Sometimes people don’t seem to understand how I think. They seem unable to understand my perspective. It’s quite possible that this will happen. But what i think the most important thing is, I’m not saying that I can see far into the future or that I know how to think about the long term; but as much as I can, I try to take a long term view as I work.
It’s possible that some people cannot take such a long view but their leader, so called. If you’re going to be a leader. Once you believe in their leader, even though you may not understand all their plans and decisions, it is important to believe in them and support them.
But I’m not saying you must support me. I’m not asking for you to understand me. I’m not asking you to understand me.
Instead I’m saying this is a general thing, no matter who the leader may be in the future. People need to keep this in mind.
So I leave it here today. I have spoken about several different issues and if I’ve made any mistakes or if I’ve said anything inappropriate, I beg your pardon.So now whatever merit has been gathered during this Kagyu Monlam Chenmo, please dedicate for His Eminence Goshir Gyaltsap Rinpoche to live long and for his wishes to be accomplished spontaneously, to be able to soon set foot in Tibet and turn the vast and profound wheel of Dharma.
Likewise, for the masters of all lineages to live long, for the Sangha of the ten directions to be harmonious and have pure discipline and so forth as described in the great aspirations which is next. So please, everyone make such aspirations and dedications.
Video: Dalai lama made mistake said Shamar Rinpoche
Shamar Rinpoche is the most senior Karma Kagyu lama after the Karmapa himself. For centuries, they would recognize each other’s reincarnations. Shamar Rinpoche would always recognize the new Karmapa and conversely, the senior Karmapa would recognize the new Shamarpa. This has gone on for many incarnations. If Shamarpa was not available , then perhaps one of the junior regents would be consulted. The current Karmapa being recognized by Tai Situpa Rinpoche and endorsed by His Holiness the Dalai Lama is out of tradition and incorrect. Shamar Rinpoche makes this point very clear in the video below. Without consulting Shamar Rinpoche, Tai Situpa snuck into Tibet and, together with the Chinese government, recognized Ogyen Trinley Dorje as the Karmapa incarnation. Shamar Rinpoche did not agree. Shamar Rinpoche has his own candidate according to the written prophecies of the previous Karmapa and Shamar Rinpoche’s own divinations. Shamar Rinpoche objected to the candidate Ogyen Trinley Dorje as he is recognized by the Chinese and further, it is not understood why Tai Situpa would supposedly join forces with the Chinese government to recognize the Karmapa. Shamar Rinpoche has requested His Holiness the Dalai Lama to withdraw his endorsement of Ogyen Trinley as Karmapa, but the Dalai Lama has said he cannot do so. This has created tremendous rifts, fighting, violence, name-hurling and legal issues within the Karma Kagyu sect. This was all created by the Tibetan leadership who interfered with the recognition of the Karmapa which they have no authority to do. Maybe it’s a sign of the incorrect way the whole procedure was done that resulted in Ogyen Trinley Dorje feeling unsure of himself as the Karmapa and complaining he is not qualified to fill the Karmapa’s shoes.
Shamar Rinpoche has recently passed away and Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje is wary of which faction will recognize the new Shamarpa. If the Dalai Lama faction recognizes one Shamarpa and the other Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje recognizes another Shamarpa, it would further divide the Karma Kagyu school and perhaps break it entirely.
Watch Shamar Rinpoche express clearly, with his trademark directness, his feelings on this whole matter that divided the Karma Kagyu school, now still unresolved, in half.
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Robert Thurman’s Letter to the Shamarpa
If His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama has no rights, jurisdiction or traditional involvement in the recognition of any Karmapa in the whole of Karma Kagyu history, why would a self-proclaimed scholar of Je Tsongkhapa such as Robert Thurman have an inkling of what is correct and incorrect? Why does Robert Thurman think he can interfere in the traditions of the Karma Kagyu sect and even have the audacity to write to Shamar Rinpoche and the Kagyus? Why does Robert Thurman have to interfere in places where he does not belong and knows nothing about just because he claims to be the Dalai Lama’s good friend?
His Eminence Shamarpa’s Open Letter to Robert Thurman
An excellent well-written logical and tradition-based letter to Thurman by Shamar Rinpoche. Shamar Rinpoche’s letter scatters any and all doubts away with his clarity and directness. One should take the time to read Shamar Rinpoche’s response.
Tsering Drolhma
July 8, 2018
UNRULY TIBETANS FIGHTING AT DALAI LAMA BIRTHDAY PARTY AGAIN
July 2018-NYC- Tibetans fighting at some birthday celebratory event for His Holiness the Dalai Lama. They set up a throne in the back, place Dalai Lama’s picture, and they fight, push, shout, scream at each other right in front of the throne of Dalai Lama and it’s filmed. That is the level of the Tibetans overall. Tibetans are not gentle, Buddhist, peace-loving, tolerant people as they portray to the world. They are rough, rude, hateful, vengeful, violent, regionalistic, narrow minded and will create trouble wherever they go. Very feudal. They always resort to vulgar words and violence. There are some moderate Tibetans, but on the whole they are very violent people who do not practice Buddhism. The average Tibetan know nothing of Buddhism and do not practice. Buddhism is just a meal ticket for them to get to another country. Their support of Dalai Lama is blind and only to be politically correct and they never practice what he teaches. Disgraceful to see a group of violent Tibetans fighting at a Dalai Lama birthday event. Shameful.☹
Tibetans are not welcomed wherever they go. Bhutanese kicked them out. Nepal hates Tibetans. India has no more use for the ‘refugee’ Tibetans and their temples made of gold. After 60 years they cannot get their own country back. What a bunch of losers and useless government people they have.
http://video.dorjeshugden.com/comment-videos/comment-1531033672.mp4
Tsering Drolhma
July 15, 2018
The letter:
It is about the incident that happened at His Holiness’s birthday celebration in NYC recently July 6, 2018. Some members of Tibetan woman association approached to Parliamentarian Tenpa Yarphel during the ceremony and complained that his comments regarding Nechung was disrespect to the protector and His Holiness. They also said him that he made many Tibetan people sad with his comments. And told him not to do that again in the future. Then Dhondup Tseten stood up and shamelessly touched those women. That incident almost made the ceremony stopped. To keep maintaining the relationship between Tibetan Woman Association and Tibetan Parliament Representative, TWA are asking for an apology letter from Dhondup Tseten for touching their members.
(It is so sad that in the fake democracy of the Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala you cannot say anything against a leader or criticize. Too bad)
Carolle McAquire
July 11, 2018
Dalai Lama for debate, discussion to reconcile opposing viewpoints
The Dalai Lama always says we should have honest face to face discussion so misunderstandings are resolved especially on religious issues. Why does the Dalai Lama refuse to meet the Dorje Shugden followers who number in the hundreds of thousands to resolve the Dorje Shugden issue. Many letters have been submitted to request audience since 1996 and he and his office does not reply. Dalai Lama’s spirit of open debate and resolutions is not across the board. Too bad. Carolle McAquire
http://www.uniindia.com/dalai-lama-for-debate-discussion-to-reconcile-opposing-viewpoints/states/news/1285325.html
Bonnie Fider
July 12, 2018
WHY DOES RICHARD GERE AND DALAI LAMA SUPPORT SOGYAL THE DISGUSTING ABUSER?
As long as you are friends with the Dalai Lama, your actions are excusable, no matter how horrendous they may be. Even something as heinous as sexual abuse of over 60 women can be overlooked when the perpetrator is friends with the Dalai Lama namely Sogyal Rinpoche. Why rush to join the chorus of Hollywood voices condemning Harvey Weinstein’s criminality, but remain silent against Sogyal’s exploitation and abuse of women? Richard Gere was vocal in condemning against all the abuses and attacks against women by Harvey Weinstein. But silent on Sogyal Rinpoche. BBC has a full length documentary on Sogyal’s abuses as you can view here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWhIivvmMnk. Yet Richard Gere can take photos with the disgusting and abusive Sogyal. Is it because one group of women are worth protecting and the other are not? If it is not for that reason, then it can only be because Sogyal is the Dalai Lama’s friend. The Dalai Lama’s condemnation against Sogyal is very light and it’s disappointing. I guess since Dalai Lama supported Sogyal so much, he can’t be seen as wrong in doing so. Politics is sad.
Sherab Wangmo
July 12, 2018
TENMA VERY ANGRY WITH SIKYONG LOBSANG SANGYE AND PENPA TSERING
Tenma deity takes trance of her oracle in Nechung Monastery in Dharamsala, North India. The deity is highly displeased and angry at Sikyong Lobsang Sangye and Penpa Tsering. She is scolding them by waving her arms at them and throwing rice at them. You can see Penpa Tsering shielding himself. These two has always been corrupt and extremely self-serving. Naturally the oracles of the Dalai Lama take trance and are very angry.
http://video.dorjeshugden.com/comment-videos/comment-1531344206.mp4
Suresh Ratna
July 13, 2018
SUMAA has been consistent in their efforts to evict Tibetans from Arunachal Pradesh as the Tibetans are known to exploit benefits given to locals. The Central Tibetan Administration, especially their so-called ‘president’ Lobsang Sangay, made the situation worse by rubbing salt in the wound, making a statement that Chief Minister Pema Khandu is an ardent follower of His Holiness the Dalai Lama and a lifelong friend of the Tibetan people. This was right after Khandu announced the adoption of the Tibetan Rehabilitation Policy in Arunachal Pradesh.
Tibetan refugees create a lot of problems for the locals no matter where they are, especially in Arunachal Pradesh. They take the locals’ land and resources without giving anything in return, making the locals furious to the extent that they are now demanding a written undertaking from the Tibetan refugees not to claim Indian citizenship and STC/PRC in Arunachal Pradesh. It is time to impeach Sangay for a better leader to guide and take care of the Tibetans in India before the wrath of locals evict Tibetans from the state or even the country for good.
Christie Donald
July 14, 2018
Hollywood is one of the most influential groups of people who have promoted the mysticism of Buddhist Tantra to the world. Together with the media, they have packaged Tibetan Buddhism and Tibetan lamas into a fantasy Utopia, filled with God-like beings who are able to lead people along the quick path to enlightenment.
This propaganda has been widely exploited by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) to garner support, especially financial aid, for the so-called Tibetan Cause and the Tibetan struggle against Chinese rule. Little does the West, including Richard Gere and the so-called Buddhist Professor Robert Thurman, know that efforts from China to improve the infrastructure and standard of living for the Tibetans in China have created opportunities for Tibetans to grow and be successful. This is something that is rarely seen in exile under the governance of the CTA.
This false image that has been promoted for the past 60 years or so is now slowly fading away as more and more victims come forward, exposing the sexual abuse they have suffered under the hands of Tibetan lamas like Sogyal Rinpoche. The root of the problem is clear, people are greedy and lazy while wanting quick success and attention. Since they get these from the Tibetan lamas like Sogyal, they are willing to accept the exploitation. This is further driven by fear that they would no longer be seen as the privileged ones in the inner circle if they do not clutch at their lamas and be seen showing tremendous devotion to their gurus. With only a superficial knowledge of Buddhism, this cult-like group of Hollywood stars and American politicians like Richard Gere continue to generate respect and love for their skewed version of the “Dharma”, while real Buddhist masters are relegated to the side lines.
Tsewang
July 26, 2018
Tai Situpa’s Karmapa candidate’s escape to USA and continued stay in USA is a huge embarrassment to the Dalai Lama and Tibetan government in exile. The Karmapa said he is very sad with his situation in his recent video (youtu.be/AdI4DMRFkm4?hid).
Dalai Lama wants Tibet to be part of China
August 7, 2018
Dalai Lama says returning to China is better for Tibetans-What do rangzen (Tibet Independence fighters) people fighting for Tibet’s freedom do now??? Have we wasted our time?
Suddenly the Dalai Lama keeps insisting he wants to be a part of China. How about all the tens of millions of dollars in money and so much time and resource poured into the Free Tibet movement for 57 years in exile. Is that all wasted? Is that all down the drain? How can the Dalai Lama turn around on us like that?
If Dalai Lama returns to Tibet/China, then he is telling the world China is good for Tibetans and we Tibetans want to be a part of China. Is that correct? So Dalai Lama is telling the world that Tibet is a part of China? After so many years of saying we want independence and our country was eaten and now Dalai Lama is sending what message to the world?
How will India feel after hosting the Dalai Lama for so many years? – This one minute video shows the Dalai Lama August 2018 saying he feels Tibet should be a part of China! -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xLKINuIrtE
Dalai Lama wants Tibet to be part of China
August 8, 2018
Dalai Lama says returning to China is better for Tibetans-What do rangzen (Tibet Independence fighters) people fighting for Tibet’s freedom do now??? Have we wasted our time?
Suddenly the Dalai Lama keeps insisting he wants to be a part of China. How about all the tens of millions of dollars in money and so much time and resource poured into the Free Tibet movement for 57 years in exile. Is that all wasted? Is that all down the drain? How can the Dalai Lama turn around on us like that?
If Dalai Lama returns to Tibet/China, then he is telling the world China is good for Tibetans and we Tibetans want to be a part of China. Is that correct? So Dalai Lama is telling the world that Tibet is a part of China? After so many years of saying we want independence and our country was eaten and now Dalai Lama is sending what message to the world?
How will India feel after hosting the Dalai Lama for so many years? – This one minute video shows the Dalai Lama August 2018 saying he feels Tibet should be a part of China!
http://video.dorjeshugden.com/comment-videos/comment-1533732491.mp4
Yoezer
August 8, 2018
While the government of Nepal has framed a policy to tighten the noose around non-governmental organisations, they have welcomed 30 Chinese NGOs to enter the country. These NGOs will penetrate the country’s social sector at the grassroots level. This is the first time such a large number of Chinese NGOs have entered Nepal at one time. Nepal is increasingly open to Chinese influence, a sign that ties between both countries are strengthening, while India’s influence is being reduced. The time has passed for India’s monopoly to remain uninterrupted in Nepal as opportunities to engage with China are being welcomed.
Jampa Lhundup
August 8, 2018
The Nikkei Asian Review is a highly reputable news platform. They are not tabloid in any sense of the word. What they publish is reputable and thoroughly reliable. They mention clearly in an article published August 7, 2018 that the Dalai Lama has a terminal illness. The Prime Minister of India knowing this is now conciliatory towards China. He understands that the Dalai Lama cannot be used as a pawn in irritating China any further. Negotiations are progressing that after the passing of Dalai Lama, his government in-exile will close. The end.
Ayana
August 9, 2018
Why doesn’t the United States and its allies end Refugee Status for the useless Tibetans? They have been refugees for 60 years now and don’t tell me they still cannot get their lives back in order?
Tibetans really know how to put on a good show and use people, take their money and do nothing in return.
Lhakpa Dhendup
August 10, 2018
What will the all the people around the world and in Tibet do now? Dalai Lama says he is happy that Tibet is a part of China and should remain a part of China. So many Tibetans self-immolated for Tibet to be independent and now Dalai Lama did a 360 degree turn and says he wants to go back to Tibet and China and Tibet should be a part of China. So unbelievable. So many are angry and disappointed.
Dalai Lama should set things right
August 12, 2018
Dear Dalai Lama,
Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this. They don’t speak out not because they don’t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. There is no harmony. Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.
By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.
It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point. You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.
Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.
You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile. Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans. Just like a dictator, you decide on your own. It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.
No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.
You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society. There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.
You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.
After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.
Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you. All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.
The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong. Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.
Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.
Ojas
August 14, 2018
Supreme Court of India JUSTICE Mr. MARKANDEY KATJU (RETD) writes that Tibet is much better under the Chinese than it was under the lamas who only wanted to make the populace slaves. It was feudal and it will never return to the backwardness again.
Vardaniya
August 20, 2018
The cracks in Tibetan society are starting to show, and it is now coming to the attention of local Indians who have all but identified the Tibetan leadership as the source of the divisions. According to this author, disunity amongst the Tibetans is now creating problems for Indian law enforcement agencies, and this disunity may culminate in young Tibetans holding silent grudges against their host country. It is incredible that after six decades of generosity from India, Indians are now facing the very real possibility Tibetans can be ungrateful towards India. The Tibetan leadership totally failed to impart positive values upon their exiled community, like gratitude for those kindest to them and the need to repay these kindnesses with real, tangible results. It’s also very unlikely that the Tibetan leadership will now start to do this, after six decades of failing to do so. Indians need to realise this, and see that there is no benefit for their nation to align themselves with the Tibetan leadership, and there never will be.
Maya
August 24, 2018
Although the Dalai Lama has offered an apology, the Arunachal Pradesh Congress Committee (APCC) still expressed their disappointment over his controversial comment on Nehru, the Arunachal Pradesh Congress Committee (APCC). Dalai Lama called Nehru self-centred.
The Congress said Dalai Lama being a foreigner should shun and refrain from interfering in the internal as well as external affairs of India.
Thupten Lungrig
September 20, 2018
His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s speeches create headlines nowadays not because they bring wisdom and enlightening thoughts, but rather unpleasant feelings and disapprovals. From the sexist quip in 2015, his gaffe on Nehru, and his recent comment about Europe that caused him to be labelled as White Supremacist, there is now one more to add onto the list. In order to be congenial and consistent with the image of a Nobel Peace Laureate, His Holiness the Dalai Lama has been issuing statements, especially about Islam, such as redefining Jihad as an interior struggle.
More and more people are expressing their doubt, with some even directly pointing out the mistakes in the Dalai Lama’s speech. This pattern of speech of strong statements that ends up in denial or apology seems consistent with his advice concerning the practice of Dorje Shugden. With the reasons behind the ban shifted so much over time, perhaps there really was never any validity behind the ban at all.
Tracy
October 23, 2018
In Gelug, there is the Dorje Shugden ban; in Kagyu, there is the 2 Karmapas issue. Both issues have divided the already small Tibetan community into different fractions. But CTA has no intention to try to resolve the issues at all. They seem to be ok with the division within the Tibetan community.
It is sad that the Karmapa is being used by the CTA as a political tool. The Tibetan leadership always uses religious heads to control the Tibetans. If the Dalai Lama enters into clear light, this Karmapa will become the next lama used by them to control their people.
The Karmapa must be very upset and unhappy with the situation he is in right now, that is why he released this video. I feel he really wants to do spiritual works but he is forced to get involved in politics by the CTA. The CTA doesn’t show respect to the Sangha members. Instead of providing them a good education, they groom a high lama into a political tool for them gain power and control.
Palmo
November 7, 2018
It is all CTA’s fault for creating so much of problems for Ogyen Trinley Dorje. Karmapa is depressed because he is not able to carry out his duty as a spiritual guide and it is very hard for him to spread Dharma in the way that he wanted to. Being a high lama, all they want to do is to benefit other by spreading the holy teachings of Lord Buddha.
However, due to political reasons, CTA has been controlling what Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje can and cannot do. He has no freedom to decide on his own. When a high lama cannot do what he is supposed to do which is spread the dharma he will be discouraged to continue on this life.
CTA is also the main culprit for creating the situation of having 2 Karmapas. It is none of their business for the Karma Kagyu sect to find and recognise their throne holder. However, they decided to interfere and end up splitting the whole Karma Kagyu school into 2 with them recognising their own Karmapa.
This is how CTA controls all sects of Buddhism by divide and conquer. This is very bad.
TSHERING
December 17, 2018
Karmapa Khenno will overcome every obsticles and His Holiness has no desire to get involved into politics hence, they should not impose it onto him. In a wishful thinking if HH Karma could return to Rumtek Monastery but due to the political rift caused by our own people has made this dream impossible. Truly grateful to His Holiness Karmapa for making this very brave announcement about his meeting with His Holiness Karmapa Thaye Dorjee.
Drolma
January 2, 2019
The Karmapa was already very unhappy with how the CTA was controlling him and he was not able to receive the education that he expected. All this while, he has been living in a Gelug monastery, not even a Kagyu monastery. Why does the CTA and the Dalai Lama want to keep Karmapa so close to them?
The CTA must have planned it long ago for Karmapa to take over the Dalai Lama’s position when the Dalai Lama passed away. The CTA does not have the power over the Tibetans, only religious head like the Dalai Lama or Karmapa has the capability to command the people. Since the CTA does not have the Panchen Lama, the next best choice will be the Karmapa.
The Karmapa lineage has never been involved in politics before. It is not surprising that the current Karmapa feels so unhappy living under the control of the CTA and forced to get involved in the political scene. The Karmapa is rebellious in the sense that he ran away from the CTA, he had a meeting with the other Karmapa and he did not go back to India to participate in the conference as promised. This may also be a sign that the CTA is losing its power and will collapse soon.
Anonymous
January 3, 2019
I wonder how did the Dalai Lama feel when the Karmapa announced he has a Dominican passport and will not travel back to India with the IC issued by India. The Dalai Lama and the CTA have spent so much energy and time to groom and try to control the Karmapa, but he still managed to ‘escape’ from them like how he escaped from China.
Will China approach the Karmapa to let him go back to Tibet to spread Dharma? The Karmapa is not a very political person, China might want him to fulfill his role as a spiritual head in China to give pure Dharma in Tibetans which will result in peace and harmony. If that happens, China will have 2 of the most influential Tibetan lamas on their side.
The Karmapa was supposed to be the successor of the Dalai Lama to command the Tibetans and be the next marketing tool for the CTA to make money. Now that he is gone, how is the CTA going to survive? No one in the CTA has the charisma like the Dalai Lama or the Karmapa to command people. The CTA’s position is quite shaky now.
Tracy
June 26, 2019
The Dalai Lama and the CTA were trying to groom the Karmapa as the successor of the Dalai Lama but they failed. The Karmapa was fed up with how selfish and irresponsible the Tibetan leadership is that is why he ran away. He didn’t want to become the puppet. Besides, it has never been his wish to be a secular leader.
Maybe the Dalai Lama also realised that the current model of how the CTA runs the Tibetan community will not work in the long run that is why he chooses not to have a real successor and keep confusing people? Perhaps he does not want the CTA to make use of high lamas for their personal interest anymore.
The CTA claims they are a democratic government but yet they continue to run government like a dictatorship. No one can challenge people in the CTA. For example, Lobsang Sangay didn’t address his money and sex scandal, he just pretends nothing has happened. He continues his role as the president of the Tibetan in the exile community without shame.
Dennis
October 3, 2019
What the17th Karmapa revealed in his message is shocking. Everyone thought he was happy India under the care of the CTA, but he was not. He came to India because many great Buddhist masters of Kagyu lineage were in India, he was very determined to learn the Dharma and then fulfill his duty to preserve and spread the lineage.
Unfortunately, the CTA is only using him as a political puppet. They want to groom him to become the successor of the 14th Dalai Lama. He did not have his own residence, he had to stay in a Gelug monastery.
Finally, he ran away from the CTA, took the citizenship of the Republic of Dominica and never went back to India. I must say he made a very wise choice. At least now he has the freedom to go around the world to give teachings without having to get the approval from the CTA or the Indian government.
Anonymous
October 4, 2019
It is so sad to see how degenerated the CTA has become. Tibetan Buddhism has become a commercial item for them to make money. High lamas are labeled with a price tag. No one in the CTA cares if the lineage is being protected and preserved.
It has been many years since the CTA starting to sell Dharma. For each public talk by the Dalai Lama overseas, the CTA gets money. They know people are after the fame of the high lamas, not beause CTA is somebody.
Now that the Dalai Lama is old, they have to have someone of a similar status to do what the Dalai Lama has been doing. Hence, the grooming of the 17th Karmapa. Unfortunately, the 17th Karmapa does not want to be part of the dirty political game, he ran away for a better life so just so he can teach and preserve the lineage. He has made a right choice!
Pema
October 13, 2019
This is the result when spiritual being control by politic. These two elements cannot be mixed because they are running on a different motivation. I believe Ogyen Trinley is a great lama and telling the truth. Due to the control from CTA it doesn’t serve Ogyen Trinley right and he can’t perform what he has to do to benefit people. This video is a big slap to CTA and an eye-opening to the world on how bad CTA control their people. Obviously there is no democracy, religious freedom and human rights under CTA.