Member of Indian Parliament Questions the Dalai Lama

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By: Ashok Rao

R K Sinha, Member of Parliament representing Bihar

After having received the kindness of India for over six decades, there is still no sign of reciprocity from the Tibetans. This fact is now being highlighted by the Indians themselves from the highest level, from members of the Indian Parliament, and the article below is strong evidence of this. It was authored by RK Sinha, journalist and member for the Indian parliament representing Bihar, a state in northern India with a sizable Tibetan population. Mr Sinha’s article reflects the growing frustration of the Indians who are now speaking up and asking tough but fair questions – why aren’t the Tibetans or the Dalai Lama speaking up over matters relating to India? Originally published on the website of the English-language Indian newspaper, The Statesman, it was also reposted on the Tibetan news site Tibet Sun. The questions Sinha raised therefore are not just limited to Tibetophiles, but are ones that are being raised on a national level in India, amongst Indians themselves.

Under specific scrutiny is the current border dispute between China and India. On this topic, Sinha asks the obvious question: why is the Dalai Lama not saying anything about the situation, given that the Tibetans lost their country to the very nation that now stands armed at India’s very doorstep? This doorstep is the area of Doklam lying between China and India, an area contested by both countries. Tensions have been rising in the area as both countries have sent their armed forces to patrol their borders.

Having been welcomed into India with open arms, the Tibetans have been markedly absent in aiding their host country. Compounding the issue is the fact that the Tibetan leadership are particularly at fault for the current situation between India and China, as another point of contention between the two countries. First the Tibetans sought refuge in India and did not remain in Tibet, and secondly they have since campaigned for a free Tibet, much to the ire of the Chinese who claim Tibet is an integral part of China.

Thus China has views the Tibetans in exile as dissidents, and this has caused tension between the two world superpowers of India and China. Given this history it is fair that the Indians would be asking a genuine question – why aren’t the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans speaking up about the issue, or helping in any way, given all the help and aid afforded to them by India over the years? Why are the Tibetan leadership staying silent, when the Indian government have stuck their neck out for the Tibetans time and time again, thus risking their own people.

The Tibetans should really take note of such sentiment from the Indians and be wary. Their silence surrounding Indian issues is not going unnoticed, quite the opposite in fact. Since more Indians are becoming aware of this, the Tibetans should be doing their all to keep India on their good side, otherwise their generous hosts may just turn around and become unfriendly. If the Tibetans continue to be so arrogant in their relationship with China, they may find themselves with fewer supporters for their cause, fewer supporters in parliament, and a less glowing public opinion of Tibetans. Once that happens the Tibetans will really be in a quandary, their refugee status could be revoked or heavy sanctions could be imposed on them. At the moment, all that is asked of them is simple support for India, the country that took them in when they had nothing.

 

Why is the Dalai Lama silent?

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Source: https://www.tibetsun.com/elsewhere/2017/07/25/why-is-the-dalai-lama-silent

 

The original article from The Statesman

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Source: http://www.thestatesman.com/opinion/why-is-the-dalai-lama-silent-1500930385.html

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  1. This member of the Upper House of the Parliament representing the BJP is asking Tibetans in India if they are willing to show the kind of patriotism expected of them.

    The questions posed to His Holiness Dalai Lama also play to cards dealt by Sikyong Sangay who has pitched himself, the CTA and the Tibetans in India, as pro-India and against China.

    As a result, this member of the Upper House is asking His Holiness to show his cards, especially when there currently is a border conflict involving not only India and China, but also Sikyong Sangay who has carelessly marched to the disputed area and planted a Tibetan flag there.

    What Sikyong Sangay and the CTA has done is to drag His Holiness Dalai Lama into the gutter of politics. He has also inadvertently trodden on His Holiness Dalai Lama’s Middle Way policy by clearly being pro-India and anti-China.

    As a result, the institution of the Dalai Lama is fast being downgraded from one of universal spirituality, to one of politics and taking sides.

    Sikyong Sangay, you have failed His Holiness once again. His Holiness had relinquished his secular authority; clearly pronounced his wishes of a Middle Way solution; and relied on you to lead, but all you have achieved is to divide Tibetans, divide families, divide monasteries, and now fanning animosity between two great Asian civilizations. Resign!

  2. @Solomon Lang, from what you wrote of the conduct of Lobsang Sangay, in normal circumstances would be treason or in a milder form insubordination.

    Either way, it is total disrespect for the Office of the Dalai Lama. As such Dharamsala is a place where schism, division and disharmony are created by the CTA internally among the Tibetans and externally in the world.

    Internally chaos had been created among the major traditions, for the Gelug: banning of Dorje Shugden worship, Kagyu with 2 Karmapas etc etc.

    Externally is obvious with this article.

    Totally unacceptable for a Leadership of a Buddhist community.

  3. I am not sure why the usually vocal about human rights Dalai Lama is silent when China and India are facing off. The Dalai Lama was vocal about the silence from Aung San Suu Kyii about the Rohingya issue.

    Are the Dalai Lama and CTA trying to keep a backdoor open for them to return to China? Or more of CTA’s wanting assistance but when help is requested of them they are silent.

  4. On one hand India accepts Chinese suzerainty over Tibet and on other you question Dalai Lama and Tibetan refugees. Sounds Indian duplicity. Who is this RK Sinha but a man shorn of reality of collective wisdom of Parliament. He should question his tribe in Parliament about Indian acceptance of Chinese Dominion over Tibet.

  5. Dalai Lama and the Tibetans are being asked to pay the price of hospitality India rendered for so long. Dalai Lama and most senior Tibtens know the truth and the truth is the British imperialism had unilaterally fixed the border and carved out a large part of Tibet into British India.

    Now the dilemma for Dalai Lama and the Tibetans is “Dharma Sankat” ie a bitter choice whether to take the side of India and surrender Tibetan territory to India or take the side of China which ousted him from power.

    The Indians don’t seem to understand the dilemma of the Tibetans and the Dalai Lama.

  6. With the question of Dalai Lama being silent on the “face off” in the air, it shows the stark reality that CTA absolutely failed. The border dispute between India and China to me would fall into that of politics. As such it should be CTA who voice out in support and not Dalai Lama who is the Spiritual Leader. The Dalai Lama had handed the political office to CTA years ago and why does the world leaders still look to him as the Tibetan political head? What has CTA or Sikyong Lobsang Sangay done to be seen as the rightful political leader? Nothing that I know of other than to create segregation within their own community in hopes of retaining their seats for selfish gains. The Dalai Lama has been forced time and again into the position of political leader due to CTA’s failure to assume that stature.

    On a different footing, would the Dalai Lama or CTA dare voice out loudly against China given that the world sentiments are pro-China at the moment? China is being courted for ludicrous trade agreements and also political support. With Dalai Lama’s middle way approach and hopes to return to Tibet under autonomy rule, I don’t think the Dalai Lama or CTA would dare voice against China given the weaken supports from other world leaders and fear of losing what meagre support they have, especially in terms of sponsorship monies. What will the ministers live on if sponsorships dried up? They had lived luxurious easy lives on sponsorships for such a very long time already that it has become their “profession”. CTA and Sikyong had always lived under the shadow of the Dalai Lama and given so much laxity that like any spoilt children, tried to show their nettle with all the wrong decisions or actions causing problems to arise.

    India would do well to learn that there will not be any help in any form that can be expected from the “refugees”. I guess this is the practice of “giving without expectation”.

  7. It was wrong at the very inception to recognize Tibet as an integral part of China by the Indian Government under Nehru. It has brought China to our doorstep in addition to subordinating the Tibetans to Chinese suzerainty.What purpose did it serve for India’s sovereignty? Like so many foreign policy matters ,the Tibetan question needs a fresh review.

  8. Send them back to where they came

  9. In this great Indian democratic setup, it is a privilege indeed for not only Tibetans but anyone seeking asylum. And you have no idea behind the computer screen of the actual happenings. Live your life, think about your existence and why in the first place you are here. Spoon feeder low life’s clinging on monopolistic imposters should refrain from polluting this world with their third grade conditioned opinions.. you know not what happens here in this great country ruled by not Mr. RK Sinha. But descendants of many great lineage. He is just a drop in the ocean who is not navigating us in this big pool of flow. Better go fight diseases!

  10. Crap !!

  11. Sikyong Lobsang Sangay you are destroying everything His Holiness has done and trying to achieve. You try to play politics but actually, you have no clue on how to even lead your people. Instead of creating harmony, you create more anger, disharmony and hatred amongst your people and now you try to jeopardise two powerful nations, India and China and also tarnish the Dalai Lama’s name while you are at it?

    You are really the worst leader we have ever had…. look at our democratic day event, you were not even there to show face and hence, no one showed up. People are losing hope and definitely losing trust in your leadership. So maybe it is time you step down and give your job to someone who really cares for the people. So far you go here and there, dining here and there, flying in first class, what is the results? Nothing much.

    If this Indian MP can smell something fishy. it is high time someone points out the weird silence from the man of compassion. I am sue the rest of the Indian MPs notice it too and what has the Sikyong done about this? Why don’t the Sikyong answer the MP here?

  12. We love Tibet and we want her free. But the Tibetan government in exile is segregating our people due to religion. Here in Germany today September 13, 2017 Tibetans are protesting against the Dalai Lama. Quite a few videos here: https://www.facebook.com/tenzin.trinlay?hc_ref=ARRLpe1G-46M9gSiGXdCoIyHzB8JjFqDTGTXZEWgWTT3BReqrYp_7clmDoXxv4PzhC0&fref=nf

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  13. These people attended the Rangzen meeting in France 2017. This is totally against the Dalai Lama’s middle way. They are against Dalai Lama. Rangzen people are paid by China to go against Dalai Lama. You can see here how it is- http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/tibetan-mp-juchen-konchok-and-friends-oppose-the-dalai-lamas-middle-way/

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  14. These people attended the Rangzen meeting in France 2017. They are not suppose to have alternative political views from Dalai Lama. This is totally against the Dalai Lama’s middle way. They are against Dalai Lama. Rangzen people are paid by China to go against Dalai Lama. You can see here how it is- http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/tibetan-mp-juchen-konchok-and-friends-oppose-the-dalai-lamas-middle-way/

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  15. You should see a clear video of His Holiness the Dalai Lama telling the monasteries to expel monks that practice Dorje Shugden. See this on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgYWidYw3U

  16. 😀😍😘

  17. Very sad the only REAL leader the Tibetans produced in the last 60 years is Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama is 82 and how many more years can he ‘lead’ his people in exile and never getting his country back?

    Dalai Lama’s policy for Tibet in making friends with western powers and criticizing China is not working out. How do we know that? It has been sixty years since Tibetans have been refugees and they still remain “refugees” depending on handouts and free aid and free money. It’s Pathetic.

    Losang Sangye is a big degree holder and his degree is not worth the paper it’s printed on. He can do nothing and has done nothing except become ‘close’ friend with Sharling Dhardon. Their ‘closeness’ is the talk of all Dharamsala.

    Losang Sangye and any ‘leader’ will not have real power but simply the puppets of the all powerful god king Dalai Lama who is the real power behind the throne.

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  18. If it was not for Buddhism, no one would listen to the Dalai Lama!! The Dalai Lama gives the Kalacakra, gives self help speeches, sermons, prayers, rituals and wears the maroon dress to vast crowds. The maroon dress he wears is really a good marketing method although it is not meant to be. All these Buddhist events is what gathers the crowd to Dalai Lama. If you look at the Dalai Lama himself, besides being a smiley, shrewd and intelligent person, what does he have to attract people? Removing all from him that is Buddhist, what does the Dalai Lama have that is different than any other groups or deposed leaders that the world does not listen to. Dalai Lama owes all this to Buddhism. Therefore he should make harmony within the Buddhist community. How he is segregating certain sects with his rhetoric is dangerous. He is expelling people here clearly due to only a difference in religion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgYWidYw3U&t=6s I was personally shocked to see this. I have met some Tibetan government leaders in Tokyo and privately they told me, they were also shocked that the Dalai Lama would say this and none of them dare advise him otherwise. They felt after Dalai Lama’s expulsion of people and in such a angry manner, it will not bode well in the future within Tibetan Buddhism which is the basis of his power. You can see in the video how angry the Dalai Lama seems to be. The Tibetan government persons in Japan also mentioned that the Dalai Lama listened to his oracle Nechung’s advice to ban this sect within Buddhism. Dalai Lama relies heavily on this Nechung god taking trance (oracle) for all his moves. Nechung is even summoned in the Dalai Lama’s private quarters to give prophecies:- http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62ocw1

    It bewilders his followers why Dalai Lama relies so heavily on Nechung when he is suppose to be an avatar of a god Avalokita himself. Nechung is invited to most of his public events to do his dance and prophecies. Many Tibetans such as MP Tenpa Yarphel are not happy and speaking up finally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIP-vLuTnpw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_ISn6eY0Y&t=1688s . The over-reliance on Nechung demeans the Dalai Lama they feel and makes their government backwards. No modern governments consult gods and oracles for every move and if they do, they should not show this publicly. This is not a case of transparency but the Dalai Lama has not trained good advisers skilled in world politics by his side obviously to advise him and uses a god instead. Till now Nechung after 60 years has not proven correct. Nechung has not secured Tibet back. It was in fact in 2012 that Nechung told his monk Dorje Dalai Lama will go back to Tibet very soon, but it has not happened. Dorje is so ecstatic of this Nechung prophecy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8 . The prophecy proved to be wrong again by Nechung unfortunately for Dorje and the rest of the hopefuls.

    Losang Sangay is too busy with Sharling Dhardon and this is well known among the Tibetans. Without the Dalai Lama backing him up or promoting him, he is nothing and no one will listen to him. That is why everyone in the ‘Tibetan government’ are careful not to offend or displease the Dalai Lama who is the real power behind the throne. If you displease the king, you will be removed from the limelight and that means no more access to money, perks and foreigners who will give you money. Losang Sangay has made zero progress with talks with China since he ‘took office’. Whatever office that is. This shows his priority is not the Tibetans inside and outside of Tibet but to fill his own pockets before the King passes. Basically milk the cow while he can. Sad but that is the situation.

    I posted this ‘pictograph’ here of Sharling and Lobsang floating on the internet when you google. Interesting. I guess the Tibetans are not happy with Lobsang Sangay and Sharling who is really outspoken to her own detriment!

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  19. Member of Parliament Tenpa Yarphel is a hero. He is speaking up for free speech and freedom of expression. He is exercising his rights, he is standing up for logical democracy which is the only way forward and not having to contact spirits like Nechung via oracles to make decisions that impact people’s lives. But look how people speak about him in the comments, so rude and nasty. It really represents the Dalai Lama badly as they are supporting Dalai Lama beings so rude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2dFMKIr_8

    They say we need to believe in Nechung and follow what he says. But in 2009 Nechung said the Dalai Lama would go back to Tibet and that everyone would be happy. A monk from Nechung Monastery is the one that told everyone about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8. But Nechung was wrong. It has been eight years and this has not happened. The Dalai Lama did not return to Tibet. Nechung being consulted by Tibetan government in exile is backwards. No governments do this in the civilized world.

    When people like Tenpa Yarphel speak up and are real patriots of the Tibetan people, they are attacked by other people. In fact people even protest like this man who shaves his hair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA. People like these are actually protesting against Tenpa Yarphel’s democratic rights and freedom of speech. Tibetans by criticizing Tenpa Yarphel shows they are far from democracy. Besides many of the other Kagyu leaders such as Drigung Chetsang Rinpoche, Drukchen Rinpoche, Karmapa Thaye Dorje all did not say anything against Tenpa Yarphel that represents the Kagyus.

    Dalai Lama had said that is his minister of cabinet in the government. Even though it is clear that Nechung is unreliable and a spirit, the Dalai Lama continues to rely heavily on Nechung and other oracles who take trance of spirits. He invites Nechung to all his events and allow him to take trance in centre stage always. In fact the Dalai Lama even calls the oracles to his own private bedroom: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62ocw1.

    These practices show how Tibetan government is run.

  20. The Dalai Lama is so old and he can pass anytime. Beijing is waiting for that. Beijing has full control of Tibet and nothing to fear. Dalai Lama and his government negotiates with Beijing or not does not matter. It’s a small matter in fact. Tibet will never have another King so powerful like Dalai Lama and so influential.

    Actually if Lobsang Sangye was smart, he would do his best to negotiate with China for a better deal for autonomy for Tibet while Dalai Lama is alive. With Dalai Lama alive, he will have more weight and backing. So why doesn’t Lobsang Sangye do so? The reason why Lobsang Sangye does not work hard to negotiate with China is because he does not care about the people. If the Dalai Lama dies, he is rich with big houses and he just moves on. He is in his position for the perks and wealth and US Passport which he has now. So why should he worry?

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  21. Sharling Dhardon and Lobsang Sangay are always together. Very close. They launched the book against Dorje Shugden practice together. Together they can authorized the spending of thousands of US dollars for commissioning a book against Dorje Shugden to further isolate and segregate the Tibetans who continue with their faith in Dorje Shugden. They do this to please the Dalai Lama so their money-making posts will be secure. They only want money.

    After the launching of the book against Dorje Shugden practitioners, they went down to Delhi to be at an expensive hotel and delicious five star dinner to enjoy their victory together.😘

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  22. Sharling Dhardon is rich and carries expensive hand bags while her ‘refugee’ Tibetans sell sweaters on the hot Indian streets.

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  23. Tibetan parliament MP Ms Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar attacks Chinese Dalai Lama student.

    Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar who is an MP of the Tibetan ‘parliament’ in Dharamsala seems to like to make trouble. She was recently in Paris on an all-expense-paid luxury trip to have meetings against the Dalai Lama’s middle way. They stayed in nice hotels, enjoyed the cafes and went sight-seeing also. She and other independence (rangzen) activists gathered together to have a meeting on how to oppose the Dalai Lama’s middle way. If you are having a meeting on rangzen, then naturally you are opposing the Dalai Lama’s views. She is against the Dalai Lama as blatantly as it can get. She advocates full independence for Tibet which Professor Samdhong Rinpoche the former prime minister said is very dangerous. 🇨🇳Samdhong Rinpoche said clearly that Rangzen activists and supporters are the most dangerous people in Tibetan society. Because they go against what the Dalai Lama is asking the world to support which is autonomy of Tibet under China. Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is seen in these pictures in October 2017 in Dharamsala fighting violently with a female Chinese tourist from the USA. 😠This Chinese woman Ms. Wen Qi Zhu had just had audience with the Dalai Lama as you can see in the pictures. But when she left the audience after blessings she was affronted by a CTA member Ms. Lhagyari violently on the streets just below the Dalai Lama’s nose. A random video was taken of this event and in the video Ms. Wen Qi Zhu was saying she is also a student of the Dalai Lama. She has also contributed to the donations of the recent teachings by Dalai Lama to cover the expenditure.😡

    Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is an MP of the CTA and she should conduct herself with more decorum and good manners since she is representing the Dalai Lama’s government. Often they are violent. Of course Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar has the democratic rights to post, protest and speak for Tibet in Dharamsala, but she should also be ready for opposition. Opposition even in Dharamsala must be tolerated as it is a democratic India. 👍Some may be shocked someone opposes Ms. Lhagyari’s views in Dharamsala the headquarters of the Dalai Lama, but that just shows you how arrogant some Tibetans may be thinking if you oppose their views, they can violently strike back. Democracy only works for Tibetans so they think and it should not work against them is their convoluted thinking. Many in the audience may not agree with Ms. Lhagyari Namygal Drolkar’s views on Tibet and as an elected official of the Tibetan government, she should be more courteous, polite and explain things well and not resort to a catfight with a paying tourist. After all she is the official and representative of the government. She should educate the masses and not violently fight with them. She should resign as obviously she is not fit for this job.👎 It is a disgrace and shame. After all the paying tourist Ms. Wen Qi Zhu has every right to protest back or speak against the view of Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar, since India is democratic and allows freedom of speech which goes both ways.👍 Some Tibetans have to learn manners, being polite and accepting that the world is not going to agree with them on everything anymore. Tibetans have to accept their 60 years of playing up the refugee card while living well in India and immigrating all over the world will not gain sympathy anymore. The CTA or Tibetan government in exile have many policies that divide and segregate their own people on the basis of religion so now that they are getting some of their own karma back, why are they upset?🙏

    Here is an article on how Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar went to Paris for a rangzen meeting against the Dalai Lama: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/tibetan-mp-juchen-konchok-and-friends-oppose-the-dalai-lamas-middle-way/

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  24. Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is an MP of the CTA and she should immediatly resign and give honor to the disonorable CTA or Central Tibetan Administration in Dharamsala. She is an elected official. She should not fight with the tourists and spectators. If she is going to post things about Tibet, she has accept there will be people who do not accept what she is posting and be ready for opposition but not using violence. If the spectator gets violent, then Ms. Lhagyari should immediately go to the police and run from the scene. The police station is very nearby. Do not stand around and have violent interaction with people walking by. It does not look good as an MP of the Tibetan government in exile under the Dalai Lama. MP Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is a disgrace and should resign.👎

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  25. Within the Tibetan communities in India, there is no free speech and how Tibetans insult each other and would even insult foreigners by calling them Chinese agents just because you speak up and this is suppose to silence you. All of this began with the Tibetan CTA. Nonetheless, there are a handful of Tibetans who had enough and they dare to speak the truth and in this case, Tenpa Yarphel speaks against Nechung and veiled statements about the Shugden ban – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A
    And then there are people who would oppose his view by shaving his head. Very silly.
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  26. Chokyong Nechung is wrong! Nechung in this video said that Dalai Lama is going back to China and that was five years ago? What happened? Why are we even listening to him ever again. He always make mistakes. 😱

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  27. Let’s face it… there is NO REAL FREEDOM of SPEECH for us Tibetans living under the ruling of the CTA and Dalai Lama. The Tibetan communities in India all sufer this fate and we live in lies and deception of a FAKE DEMOCRACY.

    Just watch how Tibetans insult and backstab each other and would even dare insult people they do not know, calling them Chinese dogs/Chinese spies is the only thing they can say and the label they give you the moment you dare to speak up. This is done to shut you up and to indicate to other Tibetans to attack you because they make you sound like you are a traitor and this is how they get all to turn against you. This is how the Tibetan CTA deals with people they feel threatened. All because of power and position.

    However, there are a few brave Tibetans who basically had enough of their deception and begin to speak up, to tell the truth. A good example is Tenpa Yarphel who bravely stood up and talked about Nechung and the inconsistency and FAILED prophesies… also the ridiculous heavy reliance on him for everything. Where on earth do you ever see any government relying on “mystical Gods” to help them make state decisions? Even if they did, they would not dare tell anyone because this is 2017 not the medieval times. Just watch – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A

    Then you have the small-minded, sheep like followers, shaving their hair – like WOW big deal, to protest against Tenpa Yarphel. Lololol
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  28. Question to Tibetan exile government, Central Tibetan Administration – CTA: Hey this Geshe Dorje interprets Nechung’s prophecy saying the Dalai Lama will go back to Tibet five years ago, but look, Dalai Lama still cannot go back. Watch… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

    Not only that, there is still NO sign of even creating a good relationship for a chance to go back! So we are all stuck and still nowhere near going back to Tibet. So why on earth are we still listening to this spirit Nechung who always makes mistakes and give wrong prophecies? Nechung even killed the 13th Dalai Lama by giving him the wrong medicine. So WHY are we still listening to him for? Why are we Buddhist following what a spirit says? If we can follow Nechung spirit so why condemn Dogyal? This is weird and wrong!

  29. Lobsang Sangay at the Golden Jubilee Celebration of Tibetan Settlement Office, Dharamsala: https://youtu.be/eInTi-E9na8

    Losang Sangay said recently (October, 2017) in Dharamsala that Tibetans have two enemies: the outer and inner enemy. The outer enemy is the Chinese government and Dorje Shugden people. The inner enemy is the people who speak against about our Tibetan affairs like regional differences and religious differences. (He didn’t say this directly but he means people like Tenpa Yarphel who spoke up in the Parliament). He said out of the two enemies, the worse one is the inner enemy.

    Now the Tibetans have started a new Facebook page specifically against Tenpa Yarphel. Tibetans are protesting against him: http://bit.ly/2ysowTH

    And there is a video of Tibetans with Tenpa Yarphel’s name written on paper against him and asking him to resign: http://bit.ly/2zAH2af

  30. His Holiness the Dalai Lama is a a dedicated advocate for the principles of democracy. In September this year, Tibetans in India celebrates the 57th anniversary of the establishment of the democratic path in the running of the Tibetan people’s political system. Sadly, it’s all lip service.

    Look at the recent incident of MP Tenpa Yarphel speaking up. Tenpa Yarphel has the right to speak and express his opinion, especially because he is a representative of the people, a Member of Parliament. Isn’t that his job? He was criticized for issuing irresponsible statements, watch this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A

    What is absurd is that there are even people protesting against his opinion, and shaving their hair in protest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

    Tenpa Yarphel was accused of being sectarian, but the reality is that because of Nechung’s advice, Dorje Shugden practitioners were segregated, discriminated and ostracized from the Tibetan community in general all around the world. This MP is perhaps tired of seeing the separation and finally found the courage to speak up for the unity of the Tibetan people in exile.

  31. Nechung oracle is not reliable. Many times his predictions wrong.

    He didn’t help when british invaded tibet in 1904. he gave wrong medicine to 13th dalai lama which caused His holiness’s death. he said in the past Tibetans going back to Tibet. In 2009, this Geshe Dorje read out what Nechung oracle said. How many years passed, negotiation talk never resume after Lobsang Sangay become Sikyong. That is why now Kagyu Member of Parliament Tenpa Yarphel speaking up.

    Why we still believe Nechung? Watch this short clip, see how confident this Geshe was explaining, but it never came true:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

  32. What is the CTA for a club? Going around pretending to be a democracy and only because of HH Dalai Lama they can make some foreign people believe it but it seems that karma is coming back.

    The CTA is suppressing their own people and having a good life with the money originally meant for the Tibetan people. On top, their elections are a farce!

    Listen here to Tenpa Yarphel who questions about the reliance of the Tibetan Government to Nechung, an oracle, which is understandable already but on top Nechung’s predictions seem to create more problems than anything else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A

    What happens to Tenpa Yarphel now that he speaks up? Tibetans have started a Facebook page against Tenpa Yarphel and protest against him: http://bit.ly/2ysowTH. They even ask Tenpa Yarphel to resign: http://bit.ly/2zAH2af

    So much for the “Democracy” in the Tibetan Government!!

  33. Unfortunately, the dream of Tibetan democracy is nothing but that. Look at this brave Tenpa Yarphel speaking up against the spirit Nechung (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A). He brings up a good point, the Tibetans rely more on a spirit than they do on democratic principles and their own intelligence and care for their own people.

    But these Tibetans themselves are so enamored with the spirit that they protest against Tenpa Yarphel, lame protests, but protests nonetheless, like this man who cut off his hair (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA). I really don’t understand how this is a protest, but each to their own I guess.

    Personally, I don’t really think much of the Tibetans who follow their lame government. I’ve seen first-hand just how much the average Tibetan suffers under their current leadership and this just goes to show that their government is ineffective and schismatic. But one thing about this whole situation is somewhat promising, there is a silver lining, and that is the point was raised by a Tibetan MP within their parliament. He wouldn’t have done so if other people in the Tibetan community did not feel the same way. It is time for Tibetan to free themselves of a superstitious, money-grabbing, self-serving, and impotent government.

  34. Tibetan government are useless, they rely on Nechung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A

    Any you know what, their supporters even cut their hair off because they don’t agree with MP. This guy funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

    What this going to change?

  35. The Tibetan government keep relying on Nechung for everything, though all his predictions and advice cause more damage than harm. Is it even wise to follow his advice, I mean he was wrong about His Holiness the Dalai Lama returning to Tibet in five years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

    That was in 2009, we are now in 2017, which was 8 years ago. Is his advice really trust worthy? I wonder why the Tibetan government even continue to listen to him. Perhaps they get something out of it?

  36. This ashrao posted this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

    What he said is true. I couldn’t believe it at first, because I never heard my parents or relatives tell much such things before. But when I asked my uncle who is a monk, he told me it is true. He said that Nechung gave bad advice and has continued to give bad advice. My uncle said that even many of the monks and high lamas don’t even believe in anything Nechung says. Better to say no rather than listening to his advice from now on. My parents were shocked. They used to go and see Nechung oracle when they were in India, but luckily I was able to move them to the USA. Now we better off. I can’t believe that the government still listen to the Nechung.

  37. It’s quite refreshing to have someone from the parliament speaking up and raising questions about the unjustness that’s been happening within its own “government”. Tenpa Yarphel is extremely brave to speak up like that, Tibetans HAVE TO WATCH IT! 👍

    1. Tibetan shaves off his hair in protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel 2017 Sept
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

    2. Tibetan Parliament member representing Kagyu School Ven. Tenpa Yarphel speaks against Nechung
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2dFMKIr_8

    Then of course, we have some intelligent individuals such as Geshe Dorje himself, who just wants attention, talks big but does nothing else 🙄 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

  38. I m think Nechung is 1 of d best when I m watch to dis video By Geshe Dorjee la but now I m think is not d truth n he is lie to Tibet people we are not back to Tibet yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8 Chithue Tenpa Yarphel la tq for talk about truth of Nechung . I m watch to this video many time la https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2dFMKIr_8 n after I hear you talk I m not belief to Nechung

    ZUMA 👎

  39. Watch when Geshe Dorje interprets Nechung’s prophecies! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

    After the Nechung oracle takes trance, the answers are interpreted and explained by Geshe Dorje, a Buddhist master from Nechung Monastery.

    This video from 2009 proves that Nechung is wrong again! Why rely on Nechung when all his prophecies are wrong?? Someone with a hidden agenda maybe?!!

  40. Only the CTA relies on the Nechung & made the spirit who gave so many false advice so much privileges

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

  41. MP Tenpa Yarphel is very brave to questioned the validity and accuracy of the spirit Nechung who the Dalai Lama always consulted, apparently Nechung has been giving highly inaccurate prophecies, but people still keep using him because Dalai Lama keeps using him and nobody dare to say otherwise, although Nechung is full of mistake, no wonder Tibetans did not get back their country even after 60 years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A

    Look at this guy’s way of protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel and you know why the Tibetans will never get back their country:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

  42. Bravo to Tenpa Yarphel for speaking up bravely! CTA has a lot of dodgy business going on even it’s own MP cannot keep quiet anymore. Watch what is being said here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2dFMKIr_8

    Yet, those in denial continue to support the corruptions within the CTA by shaving off his hair in protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

    He is also supported by Geshe Dorje himself who is riding on the Nechung issue giving no concrete proof as usual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

    💩🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢💩

  43. I would like to share with you about this courageous Tibetan parliament MP who is speaking up against Nechung. He received a lot of backlash due to his bravery, but I hope it won’t deter him to speak up in the future. There are many people who actually agree with him

    1. Tibetan Parliament member representing Kagyu School, speak up about Nechung

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2dFMKIr_8

    2. Tibetan shaves off his hair in protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel 2017 Sept
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

  44. Look at the difference between China

    https://youtu.be/Na3lcejmqZ4

    and Dharamsala (look at the meme)

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  45. WHAT IS HAPPENING IN DHARAMSALA

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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