Frankfurt: Peaceful Demonstration Coverage

As part of his recent 20-day visit to various European countries, H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama spent two days in Germany. From 13 to 14 September 2017, the Dalai Lama gave public talks and engaged in dialogues with various groups in Frankfurt. A significant number of Dorje Shugden practitioners and supporters, comprising of mostly Tibetans, demonstrated peacefully on the first day, calling for the Dalai Lama to bring an end to the illogical ban on Dorje Shugden’s practice.

Interestingly, the Dalai Lama kick-started his public talk titled “Global Ethics-Shared Values”, organised by the Frankfurt Tibet House at Jahrhunderthalle, by emphasizing that “too much emphasis on secondary level of differences including religious faith” was the cause for a lot of problems in the world today and ultimately, “on fundamental level, we are all same human being”.

The Dalai Lama giving his talk on “Global Ethics-Shared Values” at the Jahrhunderthalle in Frankfurt, Germany

Keeping this in mind, one can say that to peacefully seek the end of an undemocratic religious ban would give effect to what the Dalai Lama has preached. What better way to apply the setting aside of secondary differences than to do away with the unwarranted Dorje Shugden ban which has clearly segregated Tibetans and caused a lot of hardship, pain as well as suffering to many Dorje Shugden practitioners, Tibetans and non-Tibetans alike?

Despite the rain, there was a significant turnout at the peaceful demonstrations in Frankfurt, calling for the end of the undemocratic Dorje Shugden ban.

DorjeShugden.com has been closely following the protests organised by our fellow Shugdenpas to bring our readers this compilation of news, pictures and videos. Please do visit this post over the next few days as we continue to update this article with new photos and videos. If you have more pictures or information to share, please email us at [email protected].
 


 

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Video Coverage of the Frankfurt Demonstrations

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  1. I never thought such a day would happen, after years of not taking the lead in the fight against the Dorje Shugden ban, it seems very much like a breath of fresh air to see Tibetans making their voice heard.

    I am not Tibetan, but the Dorje Shugden ban has divided the people for far too long, and is damaging to many spiritual traditions and relationships spiritual and worldly.
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    I do not think, anyone wants to be making trouble for the Dalai Lama, and such yet the ban has to be opposed. No one wants to oppose or go against the Dalai Lama, but given that there is no recourse or dialogue and there is a real need to stop this division and segregation, a peaceful demonstration is necessary to bring the world’s attention to this ban.

  2. Heard them singing in one of the videos, felt a tinge of pride in the Tibetans who would put themselves out, to fight for the preservation of the Gelug, Tsongkhapa and Dorje Shugden lineage. WOW.

  3. Indeed, the Dalai Lama also preaches compassion and unity. Thus, protesting peacefully towards lifting the Dorje Shugden ban to end the disharmony or segregation of Dorje Shugden practitioners especially within Tibetan communities is in line with Dalai Lama wishes. In fact, Dalai Lama has gone on record recently that people can practice Dorje Shugden.

    If you really think about it, there is no downside with ending the illogical ban. It has been proven that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being (so no religious basis to justify the ban), Dalai Lama made it clear he didn’t say people can’t practice Dorje Shugden and the unity will help further the Tibetan cause. Why wouldn’t CTA do the right thing and officially end the ban (especially when they were so quick to enforce the ban)?

  4. The peaceful demonstrations against Dorje Shugden ban are not about being anti-Dalai Lama. It is actually anti-discrimination and anti-segregation. It is really against the 2 main issues which are preventing progress with the Tibetan cause. Only through unity can fellow Tibetans have a shot at moving forward with Tibetan cause.

  5. Isn’t it clear that Dorje Shugden ban is just something perpetuated by CTA so they have a convenient scapegoat for their failures? Unity is important for the success of Tibetan cause. Something that CTA should have figured out by now if they really were serious about keeping their promises to Tibetans. Yet, disappointingly but not surprisingly, CTA continues to perpetuate the Dorje Shugden ban which just brings harm and actually is of no use at all except perhaps to enrich the pockets of selected few within CTA at the expense of Tibetans.

  6. The Tibetan government always says that those who demonstrated are are evil and against Tibet. Well the matter of the fact is that there would be no demonstrations if there was no ban on Dorje Shugden. If the Tibetan government promoted peace and harmony within their Tibetan people rather than dividing people, there would be no demonstrations. It is as simply as that.

  7. You said it right Ashok Rao. Remove the ban and there won’t be any protests or demonstrations and there will be peace. What is dividing the people is the ban on Dorje Shugden. Hence stop the ban now.

  8. Thank You very much for those people doing the Peaceful Demonstration Coverage, you guys is the hope of Tibetan people, you guys is the hero of bringing the peace to who now suffer because of the Dorje Shugden Ban 🌹

  9. I am not sure is this a joke or a sad news – the King of the people go around touring the world, giving the speech to promote “doing away with secondary differences, in religious faith,” but imposes laws that widen “secondary differences in religious faith” particularly segregation on Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    The German nation had always seemed intelligent, especially with facts and figures, that’s where the precision came about; look at Mercedes, BMW and Audi! So, now, wow, and if the people who in Frankurt, Germany are buying what is sold in the talk on “Global Ethics-Shared Values” at the Jahrhunderthalle, I think there is a huge gap between the people who created and continued with the German Technology and the people who so easily let wool be pulled over their eyes.

    Really, people need to see deeper than a charismatic person speaking about Shangri-la ideas and letting inequality, abuse of power, segregation, corruption and much more happened in own backyard!

    Wake up, Europeans! Read more, find out more before pouring your money into a cause that do nothing but propaganda discrimination, targetting people of the Dorje Shugden faith.

  10. This is the first time I saw a protest that is not organised by NKT (non-tibetan). Finally, the Tibetans are coming out to fight for their rights. Please keep it up! Tibetan Dorje Shugden followers have suffered enough, don’t hide anymore, speak up!

  11. Normally i see only NKT people did the demonstration. Now as Tibetan themselves get involve, it shows that the Tibetan knew what is happening and no long wanted to be manipulated.

  12. I want to say thank you for everyone to strength the teaching of Buddha. Thank you and may everyone have long life!

  13. Wow, the tibetans are finally speaking up. I don’t see NKT members in this protests but pure tibetans. Good start for you guys. Be couraged and be firm, the dorje shugden ban should be removed and no one including the tibetans should be segregated, damaged, put down and bullied. Religion is to practice harmony and love and not otherwise.

    Keep it up tibetans, speak up and be consistent until the ban is removed. thank u for ur effort. 👍

  14. So happy to see so many Tibetans taking part in the demonstration, highlighting the illegal ban on Dorje Shugden practice! Tibetans who practice Dorje Shugden have suffered enough. It’s long overdue. Tibetans want unity!

  15. Tibetans must be really tired of the sufferings of division created by the Dorje Shugden ban which totally makes no sense. This authentic practice had already been an established practice for the past 400 years and praised even by the 5th Dalai Lama and the 14th Dalai Lama in his younger days. It is good to see these Tibetans standing up for their rights of practice and rights of unity. The Dalai Lama seems to contradict himself with the message of

    “too much emphasis on secondary level of differences including religious faith” was the cause for a lot of problems in the world today and ultimately, “on fundamental level, we are all same human being”

    How could the Dalai Lama preach this whilst the on going ban of Dorje Shugden practice is still very much in place and enforced by CTA. The ban is a cause for a lot of problems in the Tibetans community as there are widely practiced discrimination and persecution of the Shugden practitioners. As proven by this demonstration against the Dalai Lama’s support of the ban, disharmony is very much in existence within the Tibetans. Dalai Lama please lift the Dorje Shugden ban and reunite your people for strength in negotiations with China for autonomy. Unless of course CTA is against the Dalai Lama in promoting Rangzen and using the ban to divert attention from their failures and ill intentions.

  16. No small crowd, many Tibetans know the segregation because of Dorje Shugden ban imposed by CTA is wrong.

    The Ban has divided Tibetans.

    The world should notice the contradictions of the Dalai Lama between what he says and what he does.

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  17. This peaceful demonstration in Frankfurt, Germany, is very important as for the first time the participants are mostly Tibetan Shugden practitioners themselves`. For the first time Europeans, who have been among the main sponsors of the CTA, get to hear firsthand accounts about a group of Tibetans in exile, Buddhist practitioners on whose practice of a Buddhist protector deity, Dorje Shugden, an illogical and unwarranted ban had been imposed.

    They get to learn firsthand about how because of this ban on the practice of Dorje Shugden, this group of practitioners have been ostracized, discriminated against, persecuted systematically and made to suffer tremendous hardship and deprivation of basic rights of health and education facilities!

  18. The people who turned up to demonstrate is more than the people who turns up for the democracy flag raising day organised by CTA. It makes sense because Tibetans would want Dorje Shugden ban to end rather than Tibetans getting back Tibet but yet still divided.

  19. more Tibetan speak their heart. Good! Dalai Lama and CTA cannot ban Dorje Shugden and cannot harm Dorje Shugden people. Tibetans want religious freedom!! CTA don’t blame Dorje Shugden for Tibet divide, lift the ban then no divide.

  20. If Dorje Shugden is really a spirit, there will be no more great lama reincarnate in a perfect human body and continues to teach dharma and instill good and positive values in us . If Dorje Shugden is a minor practice, there will be no demonstration against the Shugden ban year by year in different countries. Agreed with Yangzen Lhamo that the purpose of demonstration is meant to protest the Shugden ban and not to anti HH Dalai Lama. HH Dalai Lama is Avalokiteshvara and for those who are HH Dalai Lama’s direct disciples and students you should know your guru well.

  21. It’s sad to see a much respected man and the 1989 Nobel Prize recipient in the field for Peace being met with this peaceful demonstration. All this will go away if and when the Dalai Lama can just say something like:
    “Dorje Shugden practitioners, like people of other faiths, are welcome to my talks.”

    Why did the Dalai Lama say as quoted below when Dorje Shugden practitioners are not treated the same as other Tibetans of other faiths?
    “on fundamental level, we are all same human being”.

    As for the CTA, well, they are just taking money meant for the Tibetan people to buy properties abroad; going for holiday trips overseas, enjoying life to the fullest at the expense of the poor Tibetans. They are thieves.

  22. I think Tibetans have had enough of their “leadership”. I see change coming.

  23. Happy to see Tibetans stand up and speak up, especially in a peaceful manner. DS people are speaking up peacefully for our religious rights, and saying NO to authoritarian government.

  24. CTA is hopelessly corrupt and want every Tibetans to listen to them and force things into them, if anyone goes against them then they will accuse you of going against the Dalai Lama.😱 same case for Dorje Shugden, they harm Shugden people.

  25. The Dorje Shugden ban is nothing but trouble to everyone including the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan CTA in terms of reputation and unity of the Tibetan people and of course Dorje Shugden practitioners as well. This is not to mention a distaste for the Chinese leaders looking in from atheist China. Therefore, it is high time to remove the ban and reform things.

  26. IF CTA have treated their people with fairness and freedom choice, no such demonstration will ever occur. CTA magnetic greed to power and money causes much uncountable harm and pain to Tibetan. Karma of CTA mastery is ripening. There no way CTA in control. 😑⛔️

  27. Yes, it is Nechung Kuten’s fault for the Dorje Shugden ban. It was the Kuten-la that spoke to the ears of the Dalai Lama and convinced him to ban Dorje Shugden. We should abolish Nechung Kuten from TIbetan CTA affairs.

  28. Very sad the only REAL leader the Tibetans produced in the last 60 years is Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama is 82 and how many more years can he ‘lead’ his people in exile and never getting his country back?

    Dalai Lama’s policy for Tibet in making friends with western powers and criticizing China is not working out. How do we know? It has been 60 years since Tibetans have been refugees and they still remain ‘refugees’ depending on handouts and free aid and free money. Pathetic.

    Losang Sangye is a big degree holder and his degree is not worth the paper it’s printed on. He can do nothing and has done nothing except become ‘close’ friend with Sharling Dhardon. Their ‘closeness’ is the talk of all Dharamsala.

    Losang Sangye and any ‘leader’ will not have real power but simply the puppets of the all powerful god king Dalai Lama who is the real power behind the throne…

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  29. If it was not for Buddhism, no one would listen to the Dalai Lama! The Dalai Lama gives the Kalacakra, gives self help speeches, sermons, prayers, rituals and wears the maroon dress to vast crowds. The maroon dress he wears is really a good marketing method although it is not meant to be. All these Buddhist events is what gathers the crowd to Dalai Lama. If you look at the Dalai Lama himself, besides being a smiley, shrewd and intelligent person, what does he have to attract people? Removing all from him that is Buddhist, what does the Dalai Lama have that is different than any other groups or deposed leaders that the world does not listen to. Dalai Lama owes all this to Buddhism. Therefore he should make harmony within the Buddhist community. How he is segregating certain sects with his rhetoric is dangerous. He is expelling people here clearly due to only a difference in religion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgYWidYw3U&t=6s I was personally shocked to see this. I have met some Tibetan government leaders in Tokyo and privately they told me, they were also shocked that the Dalai Lama would say this and none of them dare advise him otherwise. They felt after Dalai Lama’s expulsion of people and in such a angry manner, it will not bode well in the future within Tibetan Buddhism which is the basis of his power. You can see in the video how angry the Dalai Lama seems to be. The Tibetan government persons in Japan also mentioned that the Dalai Lama listened to his oracle Nechung’s advice to ban this sect within Buddhism. Dalai Lama relies heavily on this Nechung god taking trance (oracle) for all his moves. Nechung is even summoned in the Dalai Lama’s private quarters to give prophecies: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62ocw1

    It bewilders his followers why Dalai Lama relies so heavily on Nechung when he is suppose to be an avatar of a god Avalokita himself. Nechung is invited to most of his public events to do his dance and prophecies. Many Tibetans such as MP Tenpa Yarphel are not happy and speaking up finally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIP-vLuTnpw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_ISn6eY0Y&t=1688s . The over-reliance on Nechung demeans the Dalai Lama they feel and makes their government backwards. No modern governments consult gods and oracles for every move and if they do, they should not show this publicly. This is not a case of transparency but the Dalai Lama has not trained good advisers skilled in world politics by his side obviously to advise him and uses a god instead. Till now Nechung after 60 years has not proven correct. Nechung has not secured Tibet back. It was in fact in 2012 that Nechung told his monk Dorje Dalai Lama will go back to Tibet very soon, but it has not happened. Dorje is so ecstatic of this Nechung prophecy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8 . The prophecy proved to be wrong again by Nechung unfortunately for Dorje and the rest of the hopefuls.

    Losang Sangay is too busy with Sharling Dhardon and this is well known among the Tibetans. Without the Dalai Lama backing him up or promoting him, he is nothing and no one will listen to him. That is why everyone in the ‘Tibetan government’ are careful not to offend or displease the Dalai Lama who is the real power behind the throne. If you displease the king, you will be removed from the limelight and that means no more access to money, perks and foreigners who will give you money. Losang Sangay has made zero progress with talks with China since he ‘took office’. Whatever office that is. This shows his priority is not the Tibetans inside and outside of Tibet but to fill his own pockets before the King passes. Basically milk the cow while he can. Sad but that is the situation!

    I posted this ‘pictograph’ here of Sharling and Lobsang floating on the internet when you google. Interesting. I guess the Tibetans are not happy with Lobsang Sangay and Sharling who is really outspoken to her own detriment!

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  30. Member of Parliament Tenpa Yarphel is a hero. He is speaking up for free speech and freedom of expression. He is exercising his rights, he is standing up for logical democracy which is the only way forward and not having to contact spirits like Nechung via oracles to make decisions that impact people’s lives. But look how people speak about him in the comments, so rude and nasty. It really represents the Dalai Lama badly as they are supporting Dalai Lama beings so rude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2dFMKIr_8

    They say we need to believe in Nechung and follow what he says. But in 2009 Nechung said the Dalai Lama would go back to Tibet and that everyone would be happy. A monk from Nechung Monastery is the one that told everyone about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8. But Nechung was wrong. It has been eight years and this has not happened. The Dalai Lama did not return to Tibet. Nechung being consulted by Tibetan government in exile is backwards. No governments do this in the civilized world.

    When people like Tenpa Yarphel speak up and are real patriots of the Tibetan people, they are attacked by other people. In fact people even protest like this man who shaves his hair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA. People like these are actually protesting against Tenpa Yarphel’s democratic rights and freedom of speech. Tibetans by criticizing Tenpa Yarphel shows they are far from democracy. Besides many of the other Kagyu leaders such as Drigung Chetsang Rinpoche, Drukchen Rinpoche, Karmapa Thaye Dorje all did not say anything against Tenpa Yarphel that represents the Kagyus.

    Dalai Lama had said that is his minister of cabinet in the government. Even though it is clear that Nechung is unreliable and a spirit, the Dalai Lama continues to rely heavily on Nechung and other oracles who take trance of spirits. He invites Nechung to all his events and allow him to take trance in centre stage always. In fact the Dalai Lama even calls the oracles to his own private bedroom: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62ocw1.

    These practices show how Tibetan government is run.

  31. The Dalai Lama is so old and he can pass anytime. Beijing is waiting for that. Beijing has full control of Tibet and nothing to fear. Dalai Lama and his government negotiates with Beijing or not does not matter. It’s a small matter in fact. Tibet will never have another King so powerful like Dalai Lama and so influential.

    Actually if Lobsang Sangye was smart, he would do his best to negotiate with China for a better deal for autonomy for Tibet while Dalai Lama is alive. With Dalai Lama alive, he will have more weight and backing. So why doesn’t Lobsang Sangye do so? The reason why Lobsang Sangye does not work hard to negotiate with China is because he does not care about the people. If the Dalai Lama dies, he is rich with big houses and he just moves on. He is in his position for the perks and wealth and US Passport which he has now. So why should he worry?

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  32. Sharling Dhardon and Lobsang Sangay are always together. Very close. They launched the book against Dorje Shugden practice together. Together they can authorized the spending of thousands of US dollars for commissioning a book against Dorje Shugden to further isolate and segregate the Tibetans who continue with their faith in Dorje Shugden. They do this to please the Dalai Lama so their money-making posts will be secure. They only want money.

    After the launching of the book against Dorje Shugden practitioners, they went down to Delhi to be at an expensive hotel and delicious five star dinner to enjoy their victory together.

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  33. Sharling Dhardon is rich and carries expensive hand bags while her ‘refugee’ Tibetans sell sweaters on the hot Indian streets.

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  34. These three MPs from Dharamsala is well known to get money from China to be part of Tibetan exile government and make trouble for Tibetans. They pretend to be close to Dalai Lama but they are close to China.

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  35. Very good tibetans to show demonstration. Now Dalailama and CTA can see Dorje Shugden people so many. Dalailama must give freedom for us. No more lie world watching everything no good for tibetan buddhists. Give religion fredom.

  36. Tibetan parliament MP Ms Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar attacks Chinese Dalai Lama student.

    Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar who is an MP of the Tibetan ‘parliament’ in Dharamsala seems to like to make trouble. She was recently in Paris on an all-expense-paid luxury trip to have meetings against the Dalai Lama’s middle way. They stayed in nice hotels, enjoyed the cafes and went sight-seeing also. She and other independence (rangzen) activists gathered together to have a meeting on how to oppose the Dalai Lama’s middle way. If you are having a meeting on rangzen, then naturally you are opposing the Dalai Lama’s views. She is against the Dalai Lama as blatantly as it can get. She advocates full independence for Tibet which Professor Samdhong Rinpoche the former prime minister said is very dangerous. 🇨🇳Samdhong Rinpoche said clearly that Rangzen activists and supporters are the most dangerous people in Tibetan society. Because they go against what the Dalai Lama is asking the world to support which is autonomy of Tibet under China. Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is seen in these pictures in October 2017 in Dharamsala fighting violently with a female Chinese tourist from the USA. 😠This Chinese woman Ms. Wen Qi Zhu had just had audience with the Dalai Lama as you can see in the pictures. But when she left the audience after blessings she was affronted by a CTA member Ms. Lhagyari violently on the streets just below the Dalai Lama’s nose. A random video was taken of this event and in the video Ms. Wen Qi Zhu was saying she is also a student of the Dalai Lama. She has also contributed to the donations of the recent teachings by Dalai Lama to cover the expenditure.😡

    Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is an MP of the CTA and she should conduct herself with more decorum and good manners since she is representing the Dalai Lama’s government. Often they are violent. Of course Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar has the democratic rights to post, protest and speak for Tibet in Dharamsala, but she should also be ready for opposition. Opposition even in Dharamsala must be tolerated as it is a democratic India. 👍Some may be shocked someone opposes Ms. Lhagyari’s views in Dharamsala the headquarters of the Dalai Lama, but that just shows you how arrogant some Tibetans may be thinking if you oppose their views, they can violently strike back. Democracy only works for Tibetans so they think and it should not work against them is their convoluted thinking. Many in the audience may not agree with Ms. Lhagyari Namygal Drolkar’s views on Tibet and as an elected official of the Tibetan government, she should be more courteous, polite and explain things well and not resort to a catfight with a paying tourist. After all she is the official and representative of the government. She should educate the masses and not violently fight with them. She should resign as obviously she is not fit for this job.👎 It is a disgrace and shame. After all the paying tourist Ms. Wen Qi Zhu has every right to protest back or speak against the view of Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar, since India is democratic and allows freedom of speech which goes both ways.👍 Some Tibetans have to learn manners, being polite and accepting that the world is not going to agree with them on everything anymore. Tibetans have to accept their 60 years of playing up the refugee card while living well in India and immigrating all over the world will not gain sympathy anymore. The CTA or Tibetan government in exile have many policies that divide and segregate their own people on the basis of religion so now that they are getting some of their own karma back, why are they upset?🙏

    Here is an article on how Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar went to Paris for a rangzen meeting against the Dalai Lama: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/tibetan-mp-juchen-konchok-and-friends-oppose-the-dalai-lamas-middle-way/

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  37. Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is an MP of the CTA and she should immediatly resign and give honor to the disonorable CTA or Central Tibetan Administration in Dharamsala. She is an elected official. She should not fight with the tourists and spectators. If she is going to post things about Tibet, she has accept there will be people who do not accept what she is posting and be ready for opposition but not using violence. If the spectator gets violent, then Ms. Lhagyari should immediately go to the police and run from the scene. The police station is very nearby. Do not stand around and have violent interaction with people walking by. It does not look good as an MP of the Tibetan government in exile under the Dalai Lama. MP Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is a disgrace and should resign.👎

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  38. Dalai lama please lift ban.Tibetan fighting each other. No good cta take Tibetan money spend on themself.They have houses,other country pr,money, travel everywhere.Travel use who money?Where they get money travel and eat expansive?why money no help tibetan?

  39. What happened to Tibetan Kashak CTA govt talks with Chinese government? Why Sikyong Lobsang Singgi-la have no result when even Samdong Rinpoche managed a few talks with China. This is not acceptable. Tibetan cause cannot go backwards now. It must go forward and have result.

  40. Time to unite Tibetan people with no bias against protector deity or religious inclinations. The Tibetan unity is very crucial now before everything falls apart. If the Tibetan leaders really want to benefit the people, it should start to be more secular and minimize and eventually work towards abolishing religious ruling like that Shugden ban. After all, this is the way of the future and it is what every democratic country in the world today practices.

  41. What a well behave group of protesters. There didn’t seem to be much opposition from the Dalai Lama’s followers unlike previous videos I’ve seen where the Dalai Lama’s camp brought shame by being abusive and violent.

    Mind you, these are lay people and not sangha and they have the patience and manners not to be abusive even thought they obviously are passionate about their practice. So passionate that they have taken it upon themselves to organize this protest.

    There need not be any more suffering cause by segregation. As humans, everyone is suffering. As refugees, they have been suffering. Why cause them to suffer twice over?

  42. Dalai Lama does not want independence for Tibet but autonomy. All Rangzen fighting Tibetans are going against the Dalai Lama. They are hardcore separatists and most likely taking Chinese money to create schism. The attached Times of India article is very clear what the Dalai Lama wants. Rangzen Tibetans and activists are 100% against Dalai Lama and Tibetan nation.

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  43. You can see this comment on the Youtube video how ungrateful, greedy and nasty Tibetans are. The Indians are angry and have a right to be angry after hosting the Tibetans for 60 years. Yet instead of being grateful, they lash back. Even calling the Indian students “COMMUNIST CHINA PAID DOGS” and other vulgarities. Very racist.

    Anything Tibetans don’t like, they call you a China spy or China money eating agent. Even the Indian nationals now are berated as China dogs. No wonder Indians are protesting for Tibetans to go back! This is happening while the Dalai Lama is alive for after he passes, it will completely degenerate and the Indians will take action and expel the ungrateful refugees.

    ungrateful Tibetans

  44. Tibetans use India. Clearly the Tibetans don’t respect India and are actually very racist. Indians are tired of this now and want them out. Now big protests in the hundreds are happening in Arunachel Pradesh state of India demanding Tibetans go back to Tibet. The people there are tired of the Tibetans and do not welcome them anymore. After 60 years, why are the Tibetans still refugees? If they can go western country, they will go because India is NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE USERS. They put India down. They only stay in India if they cannot go to another country. They never get Indian citizenship because they want foreign citizenship. Shame. In India, they never pay taxes. They never join army to defend India. They never build hospitals, half way houses, orphanages or get money from foreign aid to help India. They never build anything for Indians and we have so many poor Indians in India. Look at the foreigner Mother Teresa how much she did for India and she did so much for Indians in Calcutta but Tibetans do nothing. Not a charitable race. Their Dalai Lama never set up orphanages, schools, soup kitchens for the poor or set up scholarship for Indians. He lived in India for 60 years and give nothing back but take and use Indian land. The Tibetans lived in India for 60 years but they contribute nothing to India. Only complain and Indians are now going to speak up. The SUMAA students said the protests against Tibetans are only beginning and there will be more.

    After 60 years how can they still be refugees. They are not genuine refugees. They call themselves refugees and not get Indian passport so their Tibetan ‘government’ in Dharamsala can continue to market them to western countries and Japan to give them money. To get free money. Tibetan leaders love free money. Tibetans have big houses, nice cars and can travel to other countries. The Dalai Lama temples in Dharamsala have gold idols and gold paintings and live in very high luxury. Tibetan leaders already get money in the US billions in aid and yet they never improve. The Tibetans always say they have no opportunities in India. Why they say that? Because they are saying they are too good for India.

    They say they want autonomy with China but they fly the Tibetan flag on Indian soil. If they want autonomy, they should fly the Chinese flag and show China government they are serious to sit and talk. They are always lying. They protest against China on Indian soil making problems between India and China. India is not responsible for Tibetans. Tibetans should not make China India’s enemy. Don’t be selfish. China is not India’s problem. Tibetans should solve the problems themselves.

    Tibetan leaders only want money, money and more free things. They always make segregation among their people due to regional differences and religion. Look how they supress the Dorje Shugden religion and their own Dorje Shugden Tibetans cannot join in their schools or Dalai Lama’s talks and ceremonies. They treat the Dorje Shugden people like the low castes in India. Their Tibetan people cannot stand up on their own become something because their leaders want everything for free. When they go to western countries, they lose their culture, religion and language and pay a heavy price. Their children become more like the adopted country’s culture and people. Their ‘government’ in Dharamsala block them from getting Indian citizenship so they can continue using their fake refugee status to get money from the west. When India is so generous to give them citizenship, their own Tibetan minister in Dharamsala block this.

    Now Indians had enough and want Tibetans to get out and go home!

    SUMAA students heavily protest Part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTyAvVQpn7g

    SUMAA students heavily protest Part 2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_RmtPpfvNA

    Indians and Indian tribal people want Tibetans to go back to Tibet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaCQ7qvjEYQ

    Hundreds of Indians want Tibetans out of India. Protests are vowed to continue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=0oUTdHWxpkg

    Indian SUMAA leaders demanding state government to revoke refugee privileges for Tibetans
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnJozme8PCw

    And alternative videos:

    SUMAA students heavily protest
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRqCkcc4hfg

    Indians and Indian tribal people want Tibetans to go back to Tibet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdjuR-Y10NM

    Hundreds want Tibetans out of India. Protests are vowed to continue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTRbetGn4To

    Heavy protest in the hundreds by Indians for Tibetans to get out of India
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdjuR-Y10NM&t=34s

  45. Within the Tibetan communities in India, there is no free speech and how Tibetans insult each other and would even insult foreigners by calling them Chinese agents just because you speak up and this is suppose to silence you. All of this began with the Tibetan CTA. Nonetheless, there are a handful of Tibetans who had enough and they dare to speak the truth and in this case, Tenpa Yarphel speaks against Nechung and veiled statements about the Shugden ban – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKOjcpLH8A
    And then there are people who would oppose his view by shaving his head. Very silly.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30NL4hG8oA

  46. Real refugees vs. Tibetan ‘refugees’. Should India and other countries continue to help Tibetans, the most prosperous ‘refugees’ on earth?

    Refugees

  47. Chokyong Nechung is wrong! Nechung in this video said that Dalai Lama is going back to China and that was five years ago? What happened? Why are we even listening to him ever again. He always make mistakes. 😱

    🌎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

  48. Question to Tibetan exile government, Central Tibetan Administration – CTA: Hey this Geshe Dorje interprets Nechung’s prophecy saying the Dalai Lama will go back to Tibet five years ago, but look, Dalai Lama still cannot go back. Watch… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDZLzXIgW8

    Not only that, there is still NO sign of even creating a good relationship for a chance to go back! So we are all stuck and still nowhere near going back to Tibet. So why on earth are we still listening to this spirit Nechung who always makes mistakes and give wrong prophecies? Nechung even killed the 13th Dalai Lama by giving him the wrong medicine. So WHY are we still listening to him for? Why are we Buddhist following what a spirit says? If we can follow Nechung spirit so why condemn Dogyal? This is weird and wrong!

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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