Shartse’s Abbot sees Trijang Rinpoche: The Conclusion

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  1. Quite apparently and certainly Shartse Abbot is in conspiracy with CTA and needs to cover up their failed attempt and their super-folly in inviting Trijang Rinpoche back to Gaden and the December teachings which caused him to fumble and fabricated lies in his response. His statement is completely mumbo jumbo and made him utterly silly, unrespectable and undignified of a Shartse Abbot.

    Shartse Abbot, you did better eat up your words about Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche before it is too late for you.

    It will certainly come a time not too distant when Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche will visit Shar Garden. This will become a powerful reunion for all the Shugdenpas and a super force to reckon with. Many will jump ship, sanghas and non-sanghas inclusive. During this time CTA will sweat in their pants for the fear factor. They eventually will become ‘marginalised’ as non-shugdenpas without power. How much longer can they depend on the Dalai Lama?

  2. I do not think that this person is the actual reincarnation of Trijang Rinpoche. He will be used by the Dalai Lama as a tool to defenitly destroy Dorje Shugden practice. Do not you see the game played by the Dalai Lama? you should not be so naif. Why do you think the Dalai Lama allows only this person to do the Dorje Shugden practice? becouse he knows that it is not really the reincarnation of Trijang. He will use this person as a puppet to destroy the practice.

    DO NOT BE NAIF PLEASE, THINK DEEPLY ABOUT THIS CONTRADICTION DALAI LAMA BAN THE PRACTICE OF DORJE SHUGDEN-DALAI LAMA ALLOWS ONLY THIS PERSON TO DO THE PRACTICE OF DORJE SHUGDEN- THERE IS A DIRTY PURPOSE ON IT.

    DOES NOT MATTER IF NOW HE SEEMS A DORJE SHUGDEN PRACTITIONER HE WILL BETRAY DORJE SHUGDEN- THAT IS THE DALAI LAMA PURPOSE.

  3. Ok I will explain it tu you.

    At some point this false reincarnation of Trijang Rinpoche will arrive at the same conclusions that the Dalai Lama arrived concerning the practice of Dorje Shugden, that Dorje Shugden is a spirit…Then he will condemn the practice of Dorje Shugden has the Dalai Lama has done.

    This explains why the Dalai Lama allows only this person to practice Dorje Shugden.

    Once this happens those who consider this person a reincarnation of Trijang will doubt about their practice, so the Dalai Lama and his followers will have a strong reason to ban this practice.

    I say open you eyes wide and do not be naif in this matter. Can you give another explanation for this contradiction? There is a hidden purpose for it and i think must be this one knowing how the Dalai Lama uses dirty play to enforce this ban.

  4. It would be interesting to make this question open to the public

    Why do you think the Dalai Lama only allows the “reincarnation” of Trijang Rinpoche to practice Dorje Shugden?

    That is the million dollar question my friends, behind the question lyes Dalai Lama strategy to destroy the practice of Dorje Shugden.

  5. It does not take a clairvoyant to know that this cannot be what Je Tsongkhapa had intended for the institution he founded, which was in fact one of his 4 great deeds. What the Shartse Khenpo has done is tantamount to sullying Tsongkhapa’s legacy and this must not be taken lightly.

    Everyone who cares about the great lineage that Tsongkhapa founded in response to the chronic corruption of his time, every Gelugpa and indeed all Tibetans must take stock of the grievous harm than the Shugden ban has inflicted on the nation of Tibetan people and on the integrity of Tibetan Buddhism. This is no longer a question of whether one believes in Dorje Shugden being an enlightened or worldly deity, it is about the institution of the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government, the CTA creating endless dire situations, the result of which, an Abbot of the great Ganden monastery has perhaps been forced to lie or lied willingly to please the Dalai Lama. Of course another person with integrity and the truth of the Dharma in his heart would not have acted the same way the Shartse Khenpo did but it has to be asked, how many monks and laypeople have lied and committed heinous acts just to remain on the good side of the Tibetan leadership? And why are the rest of the Tibetan people standing by as mere observers as this spectacle has been unfolding.

    If the Shartse Khenpo is genuine in his intention to bridge the gap between the Dalai Lama and Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, then his lies about this entire trip, has done the complete opposite. It shows to Trijang Rinpoche and the rest of the world, that the main reasons behind the Khenpo’s actions were not pure and it has brought into question whether those in Dharamsala had and have any good intentions towards Trijang Rinpoche anyway.

    More important than returning to their homeland the Tibetan people need to preserve and protect the treasures that their great sages of the past have left them. Tibetans have already lost the country. Will they also now lose the precious Dharma?

  6. As to the question why the Dalai Lama has allowed Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche to exclusively practice Dorje Shugden, it is due to one reason only, that is by allowing his own Guru’s reincarnation to practice Dorje Shugden, the Dalai Lama was guaranteeing the future of the practice. If there is one lama other than the Dalai Lama whom the Gelugpa monks would follow in total devotion, it is Trijang Rinpoche who is directly or indirectly the Guru to most of the Gelugpas today.

    Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche was confirmed by the Choyang Kuten, the Shugden oracle of Ganden Shartse who took trance of Duldzin and then recognised by the Dalai Lama. He did not just drop from a tree.

  7. Then, why the Dalai lama bans the practice if he wants to guarantee the continuity of the practice. No sense in it at all. Most of the recognised tulkus are false just chosen for political aims.
    On the other hand what would happen if this person at the end bans the practice. The Dalai lama would be very happy. If he was recognised by the Dalai lama then for sure he is not the reincarnation of trijang.

    So the reason that you give does not make any sense

  8. Also would it be possible that Kuten lama was forced to recognise this boy as the reincarnation of trijang? I would say yes

  9. Dear “dorjeShugden”,

    I agree that it does look odd. The Dalai Lama decided to impose the ban of Dorje Shugden as a skilful means to spread the practice.

    The Tibetan government were so embroiled in their own internal bickering and politicking and for decades Tibetan Buddhism remained stagnant. If left to the CTA’s complete incompetence, Tibetan Buddhism would have waned. the CTA has had ZERO success in anything they have done. They have not improved their standing with China nor have their improved the standard of living for the exiled Tibetans. Its as if they do not exist and if they did, then it is in a destructive way.

    In the meantime China was progressing in leaps and bounds and was the threshold of being the most powerful (economically) nation on earth, not to mention the most populous. China was going to be an extremely influential country and indeed has become so. It would be an extremely valuable ally to DS.

    By creating a controversy, the name Dorje Shugden became well known and spread around the world. As the result of the ban, DS lamas went all over the world and with that, Lama Tsongkhapa’s lineage spread – everywhere Dorje Shugden is, Je Tsongkhapa’s teachings proliferate. Today the largest Dharma centres in the world today such as FPMT and NKT were founded by Lama Yeshe and Geshe Kelsang Gyatso respectively, both ardent Dorje Shugden practitioners. The ban led to this.

    As the result of the ban, China encouraged the Protector practice and by that Dorje Shugden is being spread by an extremely powerful nation. The Dalai Lama foresaw all these as did Trijang Rinpoche. More people practice Dorje Shugden than ever before.

    It is ok to doubt but one must make the effort to investigate and learn. If one says the Dalai Lama is wrong and this present reincarnation of Trijang Rinpoche is fake, then how does it help anyone? It is counter productive.

    Regardless, we practice Dorje Shugden because it is a practice given by our lama and it is a personal relationship between us and Manjushri in worldly form. We should maintain our practice because it is a good practice and it is what we need during these times, regardless of the politics and skullduggery of those who oppose this Buddha.

  10. I agree with that suggested by Vajratruth. The ultimate importance is for the teachings and blessings of Dorje Shugden to spread and help many more sentient beings. His Holiness is Chenrenzig and with his compassion for ALL he will use all means possible to help others.

  11. By creating a controversy, the name Dorje Shugden became well known and spread around the world. As the result of the ban, DS lamas went all over the world and with that, Lama Tsongkhapa’s lineage spread – everywhere Dorje Shugden is, Je Tsongkhapa’s teachings proliferate. Today the largest Dharma centres in the world today such as FPMT and NKT were founded by Lama Yeshe and Geshe Kelsang Gyatso respectively, both ardent Dorje Shugden practitioners. The ban led to this.

    I do not agree with this becouse it contradicts my own experience. I have seen the efects of the ban in our own center and organisation. To say that our organisation has increased becouse of the ban contradicts the facts. The fact is that the ban is an obstacle for people to find pure Dharma. If our center has increased in numbers is becouse there is a incredible pure intention behind our organisation and becouse Dorje Shugden of course. So defenitly to say that the ban led to the increase of people attending our center and organisation it is not rigth when the opposite is the case. I say without the ban much more people would be involved in our organisation, center.

    Also if the ban is a help to spread the practice as you state why to work to lift it? You should work to enforce it, so here there is another contradiction. If you work to lift the ban is becouse you also recognise that it is an obstacle if not what is the purpose of your website.

    Also it is not true that becouse the ban Lamas went around the world to spread the doctrine of Lama Tsongkhapa. At least not the case of my teacher. He was invited to teach in western countries. Lamas spread the doctrine around the world becouse they lost they country I think that is more right.

    It is ok to doubt but one must make the effort to investigate and learn. If one says the Dalai Lama is wrong and this present reincarnation of Trijang Rinpoche is fake, then how does it help anyone? It is counter productive.

    I also do not agree with this it is obvius that the Dalai Lama is wrong. I feel that you are a bit like the public on the tale of the king that was going naked thinking that he was wearing the best dress, until the child said that the king was naked, stating the obviuos. Analogies work very well: the king is naked!!

    Also the truth always helps but takes a bit of courage to accep it. Time will tell who is rigth or wrong, To me this issue is like a theater I feel that everything is already arranged. The Dalai Lama needs this person not to spread the practice but to destroy it, for this this “Trijang” neds to appear as a pure Dorje Shugden practitioner, the Dalai Lama has said that he can practice Dorje Shugden to make him the leader of Shugden followers and then this person will abandoned the practice of Dorje Shugden stating the same reasons than the Dalai Lama “Game Over”. If you say how knowing this helps it is also obvius, we can be prepared for how things develops, the Dalai Lama is playing with your faith in him. I have no faith in him and also he is not my Root Guru so for me is easy to see the truth even if I have no clairvoyance yet (I am on the way) just by following logical reasoning (valid cognisers, inferential cognisers to see hidden objects they are very useful)

    Remember the king is naked, the king is naked, the king is naked.

    Your conclusion is too twisted and does not make any sense becouse it contradicts valid cognisers, it is just a believe not based on a valid reason.

  12. Dear “DorjeShugden”

    I fully understand your frustration and although I may not agree fully with your reasoning, I respect your rights to have them. It is totally possible to fight to bring down an unholy ban without disparaging Chenrezig.

    The Administrators of the site work very hard to propagate the Protector practice without insulting the Dalai Lama. And you’re right, it is very much like an illusory play in a theatre and each has a role to play. DS.Com’s role is to bring the ban down and fight the ban. Focus your energies on that. There is no benefit “hating” and it is also not Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang’s advice to hate and be angry.

    I will you well.

  13. Not hatred at all just trying To clarify some contradictions . I Love Your articles. As i said Time will tell

  14. @ the commenter named “dorje shugden”

    What would you say of the Gaden Trisur Lungrik Namgyal letter of official approval of Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche’s authority to represent the Gelugpa tradition? Would you say he is wrong? Are you going to say he isn’t a real Gaden Trisur Rinpoche because HHDL chose him to be the Gaden Tripa?

  15. Yes

  16. @ “dorje shugden”

    So I guess you would fall in the camp that this Dalai Lama is a fake Dalai Lama too then.

  17. @ “dorje shugden”

    I suppose from your conclusions we can also say that all of Shar Gaden are pretending to be on Shugden’s side because they consider Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche as their lineage holder. All of Dokhang Kangtsen/Shar Gaden must be in on the conspiracy too.

  18. Yes for the first
    No for the second

  19. I want to thank the writer and admin of this website for such informative and important article. There are many news which, we Dorje Shugden practitioners outside of Tibet don’ know about, and yet, such news need to be highlighted to all to read.

    To me, it is quite simple that, if the information written by dorjeshugden.com is not important and false, then why would the abbot be bothered to even reply and clarify?

    I always like articles posted on this website because it reasons with logic, and authors spend their time to investigate the incident with care and write with logic and substance.

    CTA, you should focus on uniting the Tibetans, not dividing them further!!

  20. We are all wasting precious time on this totally samsaric patriarchal squabble. “In times of strife, you [Je Tsongkhapa] strove to learn and practice . . . ”
    We are all gossiping when we need to be focusing singly on the essence of life.
    SHHHHHH!
    mickeypamo,
    http://WordsofaWanderingDakini.wordpress.com

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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