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His Holiness the 11th Panchen Lama

His Holiness the 11th Panchen Lama

The 11th Panchen Lama Gyancain Norbu was recognized and enthroned in China and was also approved by the Chinese government. This led many to believe he is a Chinese puppet put in place by the Chinese government to manipulate the Tibetan populace. However, not many people know that very stringent procedures and protocols were put into place during the search for this Panchen Lama and this by far is the most accurate in pinpointing the unmistaken incarnation.

Jowo Rinpoche is considered by Tibetans to be the most sacred image of Buddha Shakyamuni brought to Tibet by Princess Wencheng in AD 641.

In fact, the Golden Urn was the last deciding factor to confirm the incarnation. The Golden Urn was a tradition established by the Chinese Qianlong Emperor in the wake of the Nepali invasion of Tibet during the 18th century to determine the incarnation of the Dalai Lamas, Panchen Lamas and Khutugtus. This new method was based on an ancient Chinese divination technique. A search party that was tasked with looking for the incarnation would identify several candidates according to traditional methods of observing dreams, visions, consulting with oracles and other High Lamas. The names of these candidates would be written on ivory slips in Tibetan, Chinese and Manchu, and then placed into the Golden Urn. In front of the Jowo Shakyamuni statue in Lhasa, widely considered by Tibetans to be the holiest image in Tibet, special prayers would be recited and then the urn would be shaken. The candidate whose name was on the slip that first falls out of the urn would be proclaimed the unmistaken incarnation. Many prayers, pujas and rituals would be performed for days by qualified senior monks and then requesting the blessings of Jowo Rinpoche, the correct name will fall out from the Golden Urn. It is believed the blessings of Jowo Rinpoche will bless the name that falls.

Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk played a pivotal role in the discovery of the current 11th Panchen Lama

However, several of the incarnations of the Dalai Lamas were not confirmed using this method, which for certain parties, casts doubts over the authenticity of the current incarnation of the Dalai Lama. Furthermore, the whole process of looking for the current Panchen Lama has been recorded and disseminated all over the world thus adding more weight to the selection of the Panchen Lama. In addition to that, the famous Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk played a very important role in the search and he risked his life travelling across the border. He stayed back and laid low in China for many years to facilitate the search.

However just before the rightful candidate of the Panchen Lama was announced, HH the Dalai Lama decided to announce his selection of the Panchen Lama. This created many obstacles as it created a lot of doubts in the authenticity of the current Panchen Lama and made it more difficult for him to accomplish what he needed to do in this life. On the other hand, the current 11th Panchen Lama is practicing Dorje Shugden as his teacher, Yongzin Gen Tsultrim has initiated him into the practice. In fact, the Panchen Lama has received life entrustment initiation (sogtae) from this lama.

The golden urn used for hundreds of years to determine the correct incarnation of the highest lamas of Tibet. The power to divine is not the golden urn as it’s just a receptacle, but from Jowo Rinpoche Himself, the most sacred image of Lord Buddha in Tibet.


Samdhong Rinpoche

A picture of the Dalai Lama being assisted by Samdhong Rinpoche.

Samdhong Rinpoche was the former prime minister of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) and a former Dorje Shugden practitioner. However, during his tenure as prime minister, he was instrumental in the implementation of the Shugden ban.

Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche had originally intended for Samdhong Rinpoche to be a High Lama who bestows initiations, oral transmissions and teachings. Since young, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche had lovingly taught and nurtured Samdhong Rinpoche down to the level of how he should wear his robes and how to eat with proper manners as befitting his rank so that he would come to be revered as a High Lama that upholds the teachings.

However, upon hearing the news that Samdhong Rinpoche was elected to be an official of the Tibetan Government in Exile (the predecessor of the current Central Tibetan Administration), Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche became disappointed. Then, he revealed to Samdhong Rinpoche of his original intention and said that since he had chosen another path, he should follow the advice of HH the Dalai Lama instead.

On the first occasion of a public talk, Samdhong Rinpoche proclaimed to everyone that he does not care about the Tibetan cause, he does not care about the Tibetan people or the government, all he cares about is carrying out his Guru’s instructions. At this point, it was not clear who his Guru was because he seems to be very close and devoted to HH the Dalai Lama. On the second occasion in another public talk, Samdhong Rinpoche repeated the same statements but this time, he proclaimed that his Guru is Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche who told him to carry out the Dalai Lama’s instructions.

Samdhong Rinpoche gave this surprising statement in a speech as he was coming to the end of his term as Kalon Tripa (Prime Minister of the Tibetan Government in Exile)


Emergency trance for Khejok Rinpoche

His Eminence Khejok Rinpoche

When Khejok Rinpoche was terminally ill, Khejok Ladrang requested the Panglung oracle to take emergency trance to seek advice from Dorje Shugden. The Panglung oracle belongs to an illustrious line of oracles that takes trance of Dorje Shugden.

In the earlier days, Khejok Rinpoche used to come and stay with the Panglung oracle in his Taiwan center for a week at a time. But when Khejok Rinpoche decided to go underground with his Shugden practice, he did not maintain contact with the oracle. Khejok Rinpoche and Sermey Khensur Rinpoche were well known to be very good friends.

This is the famous Panglung oracle taking full trance of Dorje Shugden in Tibet 2014

On day, Khejok Rinpoche suddenly decided to send a letter to the Panglung oracle through another party accompanied by a kuyong (monetary offering) and khata. In the letter, Khejok Rinpoche wrote cryptically, “In difficult times like these, I have never stopped praying to the protector.” The oracle knew immediately that Khejok Rinpoche was referring to the fact that he had never forsaken his Shugden practice.


Nechung makes a blunder

His Holiness Kyabje Ling Rinpoche is the senior tutor of the current Dalai Lama.

When Kyabje Ling Rinpoche was seriously ill, Ling Ladrang (household) Changtzos (assistants) and the Sera Mey Abbot at that time requested for an emergency trance with the Nechung oracle in order to consult the Dharma Protector of a way to heal Ling Rinpoche’s illness.

The monks reciting invocation for the oracle to take trance of Nechung.

The paper containing the questions was presented to Nechung in trance, who took it and crumpled it into a ball and put it under his buttocks. Nechung then proclaimed that if Ling Rinpoche gets better after 3 days, there would be no harm to Ling Rinpoche’s life. Nechung further commented that this is “Obstacles from the big (interpreted to be the Dalai Lama) is put on the head of the small. (Interpreted to be Ling Rinpoche)”

This got the old Changtso worked up in confusion and anger. “How can the Guru be considered small and the student considered big?” the Changtso said.

Choyang Dulzin Kuten oracle who takes trance of Dorje Shugden from Gaden monastery

Then Ling Ladrang Changtso grabbed Nechung in trance by his clothes and scolded Nechung in the face, “Every day we offer you liquor, tea and pray to you and in difficult times like this you say such things and never help!!!” Nechung left the body of the oracle and never took trance in the presence of the Changtso again.

On the other hand, Kyabje Ling Rinpoche had been consulting Dorje Shugden via the oracle for many years. Whenever Dorje Shugden’s divination answers from the Choyang Kuten (another famous oracle that took trance of Dorje Shugden) returned, the changtso would present the letter containing the answers to Kyabje Ling Rinpoche. The lama would first place the letter on top of his head as mark of deep respect and then pass it back to the Changtso in order to read the answers out loud to Rinpoche. When the Changtso was done reading, he would wrap the letter with a khata and present it back to Kyabje Ling Rinpoche who would again put it on top of his head in reverence before keeping it away. The Shimla Kuten who is a student of Ling Ladrang and who served in the Ladrang for 15 years witnessed this.


How Pelden Lhamo came to Gaden Jangtse Monastery

A thangka painting of the Dharma Protector Pelden Lhamo

Born from cells of the father, King of Obstructers,
And the supreme mother, Queen of Existence,

These lines are from Dagpo Dorje Chang’s Praise of Dorje Shugden called Infinite Aeon. The two lines refer to Dorje Shugden as having arisen from Ganapati, which is referred to as the King of Obstructers and Machig or the Queen of Existence refers to Pelden Lhamo. Pelden Lhamo was the main protectress of Gyume Tantric College. Gyu Sherab Senggey, a student of Lama Tsongkhapa established Gyume Tantric College in order to spread the Tantric teachings as he had promised to his Guru.

One day, Gyume monks had to go to a faraway district for a debate session and it was snowing heavily when they returned. On the journey back, they had to cross a torrential river. In following with tradition, the ordinary monks decided to cross over first, leaving the Abbot, Lead Chanter (Umze) and Disciplinarian to be last ones to cross over. As the monks were crossing the river, the boat capsized leaving some monks drowned and the strong currents carried a few monks away. Monks with psychic powers were able to use their monk seat covers or dingwas to ferry themselves over while those who were able bodied swam to the shore.

When the Abbot crossed the river and learnt of what had happened, he became very angry and asked the monks which protector did they propitiate that morning. The monks replied that they offered Serkyem or golden drink offering to Pelden Lhamo in the morning before setting off on a journey back to the monastery. The Abbot in rage took a Pelden Lhamo thangka, rolled it up and threw it into the river while declaring that they would no longer practice her again. Along with Pelden Lhamo, the monks who used psychic powers to save themselves were also expelled from the monastery. The Abbot was serious about upholding the purity of Tantra undefiled by practitioners who used powers attained through their practice only to save themselves.

Further downstream was a Gaden Jangtse monk who discovered the Pelden Lhamo thangka floating in the river. He thought that it was an auspicious omen so he sought audience with the Gaden Jangtse Abbot and presented the thangka to him. This was the advent of how Jangtse started practicing Pelden Lhamo as their main protector.


Kyabje Zong Rinpoche who manifested as a tailor

A portrait of the erudite master and scholar, His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche

Many years ago, the famous Panglung oracle was visiting Trijang Ladrang (household) of Gaden Monastery. He was there to take trance and answer some questions pertaining to the passing of the late Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. This line of Panglung oracles was made famous for taking very clear trances of Dorje Shugden. In fact, the previous Panglung oracle took trance of Dorje Shugden and led the Dalai Lama out of Tibet safely during the tumultuous years of the Chinese takeover of Tibet.

During the visit to Gaden, the oracle decided to pay a visit to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche as well. During the audience, Zong Rinpoche asked if he had brought along the complete oracle clothes that he would wear during trance and he replied that he did. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche then borrowed the ritual clothes for the next few days.

The official oracle monk of Sera Monastery, Panglung Kuten. He was put into full training by Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and Kyabje Domo Geshe Rinpoche until completion. He is able to take full trance of over seven powerful dharma protectors such as Dorje Shugden, Dorje Setrapa, Jowo Kinkara, Shidak Gyenye, Kache Marpo, etc. He has been taking official trance for thousands of supplicants in the last 30 years. He is highly regarded and respected among the millions of Shugden practitioners.

When the oracle came to visit Zong Ladrang the next day, the entire hall was filled with bolts of fabric and brocades. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche was cutting cloth and was in the midst of sewing up an exact copy of the oracle’s clothes. At that time, there were very few that had the means and skills to make such elaborate ceremonial clothes. Therefore, tailors with the traditional skills needed to make such an elaborate clothes was hard to come by.

Therefore, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche took matters into his own hands and made one set for the Dorje Shugden oracle Choijin Lama known as the ‘Ari Kuten’, which means the American oracle. It was Kyabje Zong Rinpoche who discovered and trained this oracle. Recently, Ari Kuten opened a big center in Bloomington, Indiana and the center named Gaden Kachoe Shing by Dorje Shugden in trance.

It seems that Kyabje Zong Rinpoche was not only an erudite scholar but he was also very skilled with his hands. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche had innumerable artistic abilities besides being an undefeated and unparalleled debater, scholar and master of the Buddha’s teachings. He was able to sew intricate ceremonial robes, paint statues, thangkas, mandalas and other ritual artwork.

A close up of the hat worn by Simla oracle who is taking trance of Dorje Shugden in Switzerland with the young Trijang Rinpoche sitting on throne (behind right)

In fact, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche fashioned the elaborate oracle hat that the Ari Kuten would later wear during his trances. The hat is fashioned out of copper or silver with carvings of the 5 ritual skulls and festooned with the emblem of Manjushri’s wisdom sword and book that is adorned with peacock feathers and the 5 brocaded victory banners. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche clearly has put in a lot of effort into the creation of a Dorje Shugden oracle because the oracle would be beneficial for those seeking advice and blessings from Dorje Shugden who is none other than Manjushri himself.

The current Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche (left) and the Ari Kuten (right) at the opening of his center Gaden Kachoe Shing in Indiana. Ari Kuten is a student of Kyabje Zong Rinpoche. When Ari Kuten was in his early teens, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche predicted he would be a Dorje Shugden oracle when he reached maturity. As Kyabje Zong Rinpoche predicted, it came to be. He was officially recognized as the Dorje Shugden oracle of Gaden Monastery just before the ban against Shugden took full effect.

These true short stories were told by the famous Panglung Kuten and we thank him for sharing with


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  1. Wow! These stories are really interesting because it highlights certain interesting information regarding the current Panchen Lama. It looks like most people have been truly mistaken about the authenticity of the methods used to search this incarnation. Perhaps, the other Panchen Lama was recognized as a smokescreen to protect this incarnation during those delicate years of his childhood so he would be able to mature into his role of spreading the Dharma in China.

  2. If the source of these wonderful stories is from Panglung Kuten himself, I have no doubts how authentic they are. Thank you for them.

    I am glad to know the current Panchen Rinpoche is the authentic incarnation. I was not sure.

  3. His Holiness 11th Panchen Lama is 100% authentic incarnation so as you described so well.
    The other incarnation was to me chosen -in violation of all the normal procedures of recognition – in order to deliberately send him straitght into the arms of Chinese ( was so obvious, like putting the mouse into the cat’s mouth!!!).
    So , now they can say: “There is no more Panchen Lama! Only Dalai exists!”

  4. Thanks for the very usefull informations.paolo alas italychampatogme.

  5. I learn so much from this article that could not be heard from anywhere else. These stories are truly interesting and eye opening. Thank you Panglung Oracle for sharing these stories with us. I love them.

  6. The authencity of 11th Panchen Lama is beyond any doubt and confusion after the clarification from Panglung Oracle. Thank you for sharing.

  7. The ex Kalon, Samdhong Rinpoche proclaimed to everyone that he does not care about the Tibetan cause, he does not care about the Tibetan people or the government??? What a shame, Tibetans are led by wrong people. I wonder what will highly vocalist, Jamyang Norbu and Tibetan Youth Congress say about this.

  8. Very interesting stories related to high lamas and protectors. Perhaps this is not just story to read for leisure but for us to appreciate how to come about. Thank you for the sharing or else I just can not get to know all this.

  9. Thank you for sharing the stories. I learned a lot on protector and also get to know more about how the current Panchen Lama is selected. These stories also increase my faith to our holy protector.

  10. Funny that as the ex Kalon Tripa, Samdhong Rinpoche says that he does not care about the Tibetan people or government…But he was Prime Minister of the then Tibetan Government in Exile. How can he not care about his people when they were all relying on him to lead them? So why become the Kalon tripa then…how did Samdhong Rinpoche lead his people when he didn’t care for them?

    These snippet of news was very nice to read and I do not doubt the authenticity of the stories at all because it comes from such a reliable source.

  11. Thank you for the sharing! I have no doubt of the stories shared here because they all from the mouth of Panglung Kuten.

    Thank you again.

  12. Thank you Panglung Kuten for sharing this information with us very informative and very impress that how they recognise high reincarnate lama.

  13. Upon reading this article, I learned new things that I was previously unaware of and have doubts on. It also gives the ability for all to clear the air pertaining to the authenticity method in search for the incarnation of the present Panchen Lama. The stories about the protectors are really eye-opening.Thank you for the sharing of this interesting information, Panglung Kuten.

  14. In this article, there were so many fact that I thought was real turned to be false, take in the case of Panchen Lama. I laughed so hard when it come to the part about how Gaden Jangtse “acquired” their protector. It was most amazing to have known that Kyabje Zong Rinpoche was not only skill in debate and his scholarship but also had hidden talent as metal artisan and a great tailor!

  15. Thank you Dorje for sharing Panglung Kuten wonderful stories for us to know how incarnated Lamas are recognized.
    This article is very informative for us to learn more of the authenticity of Dharma Protectors too.

  16. After reading this article, I am now more convinced that China is behind the Dorje Shugden movement. Shame on communist China which is trying to divide the great Tibetan Buddhism. Shame also on their valets. I am sure that their valets will delete my post.

  17. Really enjoyed the information provided by Panglung Kuten, if the Panglung Kuten could share all interesting knowledge and information it would fill up many tomes I am sure. The Panglung Kuten have seen so many things in his career as an oracle monk. It was interesting to know that Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk was behind the search for the Panchen Lama, not much information about this great lama on the internet and his untimely accident well many people doubt it was an accident more like premeditated.

    I do hope Samdhong Rinpoche maintains his samaya with Trijang Dorjechang. politics is not frowned upon because it is a dirty business, it is frowned upon as one can b consumed by the machinations of politics and drawn into things that bring not much benefit this life and future lives. Khejok Rinpoche had to hide his DS practice from others, which is another problem with this ban, it makes things so inconvenient.

  18. Thank you for sharing these encounters of Dharma with us. These are precious stories of how great masters work together to bring us the Dharma with devotion. These “short stories” will also make good stories to share with young practitioners because they have an animated element to them.

    The stories about the oracles are also very intriguing. From my understanding, only 2 trained oracles exist today (Panglung Kuten and Ari Kuten). This reflects how precious and rare vessels through which Dorje Shugden can connect directly with us in the realm are! I had the honor of meeting the Panglung Oracle and the purity he exudes is so embracing and puts me in awe.

  19. Thank you Admin for sharing Panglung Kuten’s very concise & informative stories on the High lamas & Protector Dorje Shugden. The guru devotion, steadfastness, dedications & tireless efforts of these Shugden Lamas are certainly a great inspiration & deserve our deep reverence.

    I am very thankful to all these Shugden Lamas for they are the cause for bringing the Holy Protector practice, Dorje Shugden to me & my family.

  20. This is a very interesting article covering such a wide range of information shared kindly by the great Panglung Kuten. It would be valuable for readers here if Panglung Kuten could share more of what he knows. I have gained much knowledge from reading this article and I believe what Panglung Kuten said.

  21. I really like ‘tidbits’! So many interesting stories and information. Thank you Panglung Kuten and DS website!

    I especially like the stories of Kyabje Zong Rinpoche manifesting as a tailor and personally did the oracle’s clothes. Nurturing and preparing the oracle! How blessed!

  22. These stories are eyes-opener ! Thank you Admin for posting them.

    The story of H.H. the 11th Panchen Lama Gyancain Norbu’s recognition is really important to set the record straight on this controversy. Many Buddhists were being fooled by HH Dalai Lama’s camp to question his recognition as the correct incarnation. With the explanation of its process that involving extensive pujas and the using of the golden urn, this will restore the trust people have in this high Lama.

  23. What an interesting article. And it is reliable because it is from Panglung Kuten himself. Looking forward to more concise stories like these . We are so fortunate that at this degenerate era, we can still meet these Lamas and hear their name.

  24. From the articles we can see how strong the devotion of the shugden lamas. For example Samdong Rinpoche who has been place in such a difficult position but his motivation has never shake towards his guru instruction.

    I’m quite surprise on the Nechung answers on Ling Rinpoche illness. How can a dharma protector work in such disrespectful.

    In a nut shell from the above articles we can see that devotion is one of the most important key for our practice. Nothing we can achieve if we have a broken samaya. Propitiating enlightened protector is important as their holy advice will bring us a long term benefits.

  25. I especially love the bit on Dorje Shugden oracles. They are so precious and I think we forget how rare they are. Additionally, we often mistake them for “fortune tellers” asking them to bless us for secular things.

    Oracles of enlightened Buddhas are vessels through which we can connect or have contact with the Buddhas. An extra plus for the Dorje Shugden oracles is: they can give teachings!!!! Imagine to have the merits to receive teachings directly from the Buddhas.

    The oracles are simply awesome!!! However, it is important to point out that the oracles respect and serve high lamas who dedicate their lives to turning the wheel of Dharma. Therefore, for those of us who have our teachers with us, never take them for granted and always realize and remember how fortunate we are to have a Guru to prescribe the perfect medicine to treat our delusions.

    Thank you for this interesting sharing of dharma tidbits.

  26. Nice to read this article. it has lots of very interesting story inside. I hope we would have more of this kind of sharing. It opened my eye to what these great lama like Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche did for the protector. They respect and take care of the protector Dorje Shugden and at the same time the protector never fail to be there whenever they needed him.

  27. Thank you for this beautiful stories. So much to learn about the high Lamas and Protectors. I am very grateful to all the knowledge spread on so that the world knows and benefits from them.

    Zong Rinpoche sewing oracle clothes or how Pelden Lhamo came to Gaden Jangtse Monastery – I want to read more!!

    May the ban be lifted smoothly and quickly. _/\_

  28. Dear Dalai Lama,

    Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this. They don’t speak out not because they don’t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. There is no harmony. Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

    By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

    It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point. You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

    Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.

    You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile. Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans. Just like a dictator, you decide on your own. It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

    No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

    You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society. There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

    You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

    After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

    Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you. All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

    The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong. Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

    Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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