Should the Sakya Lineage Be Dissolved?

By: Shashi Kei

When the 14th Dalai Lama officially banned the practice of the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden in 1996, His Holiness inflicted more than just a dent on the credibility of a Protector the Gelugs have worshipped for almost 400 years. He in fact exposed to doubt and ridicule, the very foundations of the Tibetan Buddhist religion.

A prominent and distinguishing feature of the Tibetan Buddhist tradition is the great emphasis placed on the guru and also the lineage masters. In the tantras that the Vajrayana school of Buddhism is known for, the guru is regarded as the embodiment of the Three Jewels – the Buddha, the Dharma and the Sangha. In Vajrayana, it is said that a successful practice is based on the Three Roots – the root of the blessing, the root of the siddhi and the root of the activity. The most crucial of these three is the root of blessings, of which the source is the Guru.

As a matter of fact, it is firmly believed that one’s Dharma practice cannot yield any fruits unless it has the blessings of the guru. Milarepa’s story illustrates this well. Milarepa tricked Lama Ngokpa into teaching him how to practice by lying that Marpa had sent him to Lama Ngokpa to be trained. And yet, Milarepa’s greatest efforts bore no results. Lama Ngokpa was surprised for the teachings he gave Milarepa were certain to produce a positive outcome. In the end, when Milarepa confessed that he had not in fact been sent by Marpa, Lama Ngokpa replied, “Well, that must be the truth, because without the lama’s blessing, experience and realization cannot arise.”

In fact, one of the past lives of Dorje Shugden was the great Sakya Pandita Kunga Gyeltsen.

In tantra, it is the guru and lineage lamas that give validity to and empower a practitioner’s training. Lama Ngokpa taught Milarepa the very same practice that his Guru, Marpa had taught him and yet, Milarepa gained nothing. Without the blessings of the guru, the potency of the training is absent.

This story and many similar anecdotes show the importance of lineage in the transmission of a practice. It is through the unbroken succession of lineage masters that unending blessings flow from the enlightened originator of the practice to the practitioner. The lineage is the source of all the blessings without which there can be no authentic transmission of the Buddhadharma, and the practice becomes a farce, void of any results. This is the most basic tenet embraced by all major schools of Tibetan Buddhism until this day.

When the Dalai Lama imposed a ban on the practice of Dorje Shugden, alluding to the Protector practice being anti-Dharma and demonic, His Holiness in effect invalidated the greatest Gelugpa lamas such as Takphu Pemavajra, Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo, Trijang Dorje Chang and Zong Dorje Chang. In fact, seeing that the aforementioned masters were inextricable sources of the Gelug lineage, it follows that through the Dalai Lama’s declaration of Dorje Shugden being spirit worship, that the Gelug school of Buddhism is void by definition from the time of at least Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo.

But the damage does not end there, for if we were to trace the ‘demon’ that perverted the Gelugpa lineage to its source, we will ultimately end up at the fountainhead of the Dorje Shugden practice, which is in fact the Sakya lineage. The Gelug masters did not ‘invent’ the Dorje Shugden practice. That honor, or dishonor depending on which side of the Dorje Shugden divide you stand, belongs to the 30th Sakya Throne Holder, Sonam Rinchen. It was Sonam Rinchen who recognized Dorje Shugden as an enlightened protector and enthroned the deity together with Dorje Setrap and Tsiu Marpo. Together they were known as the Three Kings (Gyalpo Sum) and were regarded as the Protectors of the Sakya lineage.

A Dorje Shugden mural in a traditional Sakya Monastery in Tibet. Why would any Sakya paint the image of a’minor demon’ (as the 41st Sakya Throne Holder infers) on the wall of the holy monastery unless Dorje Shugden was regarded as a holy being worthy to be worshipped.

Another great Sakya master of the 17th century, Morchen Kunga Lhundrub (1654 – 1728) who was undoubtedly a well-respected and trusted holder of the Sakya lineage’s Lamdre and Tantric teachings, and also the Vajrayogini lineage, wrote praises to Dorje Shugden acknowledging the Protector as an enlightened being. It was Morchen Kunga Lhundrub who told his disciples, “Now is the time to rely upon Dorje Shugden.”

Clearly it was the Sakyas who endorsed Dorje Shugden as a protector worthy of worship. So immediately we see an inconsistency – why is it that historical Gelug masters who embraced the Dorje Shugden practice are denounced by His Holiness the Dalai Lama but not the historical Sakya masters who initiated the practice and, by their reputation and position, legitimized a ‘demon’?

History records that after Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen was murdered, his estate at Drepung Monastery was destroyed, as were the stupas containing his relics. The search for his reincarnation was also forbidden. Such a search would not have been fruitful anyway if we are to believe what the Tibetan leadership claims, which is that Dorje Shugden arose a ghost of an oath breaker. That would have been the end of the oath breaker and it would have remained as Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen’s legacy, except that around the time of his death the Sakya Throne Holders began to recognize Dorje Shugden to be in the essence of Avalokiteshvara. What is even more interesting is how these Sakya masters arrived at their conclusion by referring to the Nyingma Tantra Rin chen sna bdun that suggested that this “Dolgyal is in essence the Buddha of Compassion”.

Furthermore, it was not only Sonam Rinchen, the 30th Sakya Throne Holder, and Morchen Kunga Lhundrub who regarded Dorje Shugden as an enlightened being. The 31st Sakya Throne Holder Kunga Lodro, famed for his teaching of the Lobshe (the uncommon Lamdre), was regarded as an emanation of Dorje Shugden. It was Kunga Lodro who wrote a beautiful wrathful torma offering prayer to Dorje Shugden called ‘Swirl Of Perfect Sense Offering’ which became the basis of Pabongka Rinpoche’s composition ‘Melodious Drum Victorious In All Directions’ which is in turn a key text used in modern day worship of Dorje Shugden.

Later on in the Sakya lineage of throneholders, the 32nd Sakya Throne Holder Wangdu Nyingpo, regarded by the Sakyas as the ‘second Padmasambhava’, also worshipped the Protector Dorje Shugden. The 33rd Sakya Throne Holder Pema Dudul Wangchuk, a high Mahasiddha in the Sakya tradition, was a firm believer and practitioner of Dorje Shugden as well. His son, the 35th Sakya Throne Holder Tashi Rinchen, even relied on Dorje Shugden in order to continue the Sakya family line. When Tashi Rinchen could not have an heir, they turned to Dorje Shugden and Pema Dudul declared that Dorje Shugden would reincarnate as Tashi Rinchen’s son in order to continue the Sakya family line.

So we see, Dorje Shugden played more than just a devotional role in the Sakya lineage. The deity was also intimately involved in the bloodline of the Sakyas and had a direct role in the procreation of Sakya masters. The Sakyas’ faith in Dorje Shugden continued in the 35th Sakya Throne Holder Tashi Rinchen. In fact, Tashi Rinchen not only brought Kunga Nyingpo, the reincarnation of the ‘demon’ Dorje Shugden into the world, but he also founded Dolma Phodrang that the present 41st Sakya Throne Holder is from. This ‘demon’ Kunga Nyingpo (son of the 35th Sakya Throne Holder) ascended the Sakya seat of the lineage as the 37th Throne Holder and held over dominion over the entire Sakya clan, who are long thought of as a people borne out of Manjushri himself.

From Kunga Nyingpo came the 39th Sakya Throne Holder Dragshul Trinley Rinchen who was also a firm believer that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being. In his autobiography, Dragshul Trinley Rinchen wrote:

“The Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden Tsel definitively is Avalokitesvara. The Nyingma Tantra Rinchen Nadun says “The one known as Dolgyal is not mistaken on the path to liberation, he is by nature the Great Compassionate One,” which establishes this by scripture [lung gis grub]. The Great Je Sakyapa Kunga Nyingpo is well known as an incarnation of the Arya Lotus in Hand. The Arya Lotus in Hand definitively is none other than the Lord of Mandalas, but provisionally by assuming the manner of a tenth level bodhisattva he simultaneously sports billions of superior, middling and inferior emanations to accomplish immeasurable benefit for beings, such as setting them on paths to the higher realms and liberation”.

If we agree with His Holiness the Dalai Lama that Dorje Shugden is a malevolent spirit bent on destroying the Dharma, then we must also agree that it was the greatest masters of the Sakya lineage at the time who established this ‘demonic’ practice, that four centuries later threatens the sanctity of Dharma and created the most damaging split in the Sangha.

Therefore when His Holiness the Dalai Lama speaks against Dorje Shugden, His Holiness in fact calls into question the legitimacy of the Sakya lineage. What makes this even more unbelievable and disastrous for the Sakyas is how the present and 41st Sakya Throne Holder, His Holiness Ngawang Kunga Tegchen Palbar Trinley Samphel Wangyi Gyalpo, supported the Dalai Lama’s views of Dorje Shugden, and in so doing belittled his own lineage and lineage masters, and nullified all blessings of the Sakya practices.

After all, in agreeing with the Dalai Lama’s statements regarding Dorje Shugden as demon worship, he as the head of the lineage has invalidated his entire tradition as an authentic Tibetan Buddhist school by maligning a large part of its history as ‘demonic’ worship. Moreover, given that the Sakya lineage has a rich and legitimate history of relying on Dorje Shugden, it can safely be said that the lineage the present Sakya Throne Holder inherited was worthless and ineffective. As we established earlier, all Tibetan Buddhist schools agree that the potency of a teaching or transmission flows through the lineage masters to the practitioners. And so, what contaminated blessings and empowerments did the 41st Sakya Throne Holder receive or inherit if the channel that is supposed to convey the lineage blessings had already been commandeered by demon worshippers since the time of the 30th Sakya Throne Holder? How can a valid lineage pass through seven ‘demon worshippers’ en route to the present Throne Holder and yet be regarded as authentic? The present Sakya Throne Holder is under an obligation to provide answers to these valid questions.

The current 41st Sakya Throne Holder with his family.

When the present and 41st Sakya Throne Holder claimed that “some Sakyas worshipped Shugden as a lower deity…” and implied that Shugden was a worldly spirit or demon who is kept in check because he is controlled by Mahakala, he annulled the Sakya lineage from the time of Sonam Rinchen and Morchen Kunga Lhundrub. And in doing so, the Sakya Throne Holder also undermined the great Mahakala as being incapable of subduing a mere ‘demon’, only capable of keeping him in check. If Dorje Shugden is indeed under the control of Mahakala, then what is all the fuss in Dharamsala about, unless the Sakya Throne Holder is inferring that Mahakala is incompetent?

If both His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the 41st Sakya Throne Holder are correct in their assessment of Dorje Shugden, it would also mean that the blood line of the Sakyas, especially those of the Dolma Phodrang, are accursed with gross maleficence. Official Sakya websites state that the 41st Sakya Throne Holder is recognized to be a reincarnation of Dragshul Trinley Rinchen, the 39th Sakya Throne Holder, who is his grandfather and also a confirmed Dorje Shugden believer. Therefore, if the 41st Sakya Throne Holder is to be regarded as an enlightened master, then he cannot be the reincarnation of a demon worshipper. Or if we insist that Dragshul Trinley Rinchen, the 39th Sakya Throne Holder was indeed a demon worshipper, then his reincarnation, the present 41st Sakya Throne Holder cannot be an enlightened being.

 

Five Points of Concern

As a matter of fact, with His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s stance on Dorje Shugden which the 41st Sakya Throne Holder has openly and officially endorsed, they jointly and individually declare as follows:

  1. That from the 17th Century, the Sakya lineage became contaminated and the children of Manjushri became devil worshippers. Hence the entire Sakya lineage today cannot be regarded as a legitimate Tibetan Buddhist school capable of bringing its adherents to the state of enlightenment. In fact, the opposite should apply;
  2. That the Lamdre that is the final intention and instruction of the conqueror, Vajradhara to the Sakya has been destroyed at the hands of a series of infernal Throne Holders. How can the Lamdre survive in a lineage of demon worshippers? The first of the Four Authenticities in the Lamdre is ‘the authenticity of the guru’. But by the declaration of the 41st Sakya Throne Holder, the Sakya can no longer claim authenticity of their lineage gurus seeing that at least seven throne holders have broken refuge vows by worshipping the ‘demon’ Dorje Shugden;
  3. That the 41st Throne Holder and the heirs of the Drolma Phodrang are borne of demonic seed. In addition, the 41st Sakya Throne Holder is the reincarnation of a demon worshipper (the 39th Sakya Throne Holder Dragshul Trinley Rinchen);
  4. That the Sakya masters erred so completely to have equated a demon as Avalokiteshvara. What happened to their attainments, learning and clairvoyance that they were unable to discern demon from enlightened being? If they can be mistaken to such severity, what other Sakya teachings should be called into question?
  5. As the result of declarations 1 to 4 above, the 41st Sakya Throne Holder needs to accept responsibility for his lineage founding a practice that today ‘harms the life of the Dalai Lama’ and is also accounts for the reason why the Tibetans have failed in their efforts to regain their country.

 

Conclusion

If the Tibetan leadership was genuinely concerned about the proliferation of demon worship in their community, they should stick to the truth and refocus all the accusations leveled at Dorje Shugden practitioners at the Sakyas as the original source of the Tibetan people’s woes. This is of course in consideration of historical fact and what is universally believed by the Sakya Tradition, that seven of their Throne Holders were either adherents of Dorje Shugden practice or emanations of the Protector himself. In light of this, the 41st Sakya Throne Holder should therefor stand accused and not pretend to be an accuser of Dorje Shugden.

Clearly, the 41st Sakya Throne Holder’s argument that Dorje Shugden was merely a lower [worldly] deity and was never ‘part of the Sakya institution’ is a slippery slope argument that challenges his own legitimacy and the validity of the entire Sakya lineage. If the 41st Sakya Throne Holder truly believes that Dorje Shugden is a dark and demonic element, then the decent and remaining thing to do now is to acknowledge that the Sakya sect is no longer a legitimate Tibetan Buddhist school, and to dissolve. Why perpetuate a redundant and dangerous sect and pretend to be a legitimate Tibetan tradition? The same argument should also see to the dismantling of the Gelug lineage and the hallowed position of His Holiness the Dalai Lama who like the 41st Sakya Throne Holder, inherited an impotent lineage from a line of demon worshippers.

And yet we see none of that.

This is not to encourage criticism against the Sakya school but for readers to consider the motivation of the Tibetan leadership to direct violence exclusively against Gelug practitioners, instead of the root of the Shugden practice which is the Sakya school (as proven by fact). Ultimately the anti-Dorje Shugden argument is tantamount to argumentum ad absurdum. For the claim that Dorje Shugden is a dark and dangerous force to be regarded as valid, then proper remedies must follow and that includes the tearing down all that arose from Dorje Shugden and all that been associated with it. This would cover the greatest masters of the Sakya and Gelug lineages. Those who accuse Dorje Shugden wrongly and yet refuse to follow through with remedies are only highlighting what everyone already knows – that they are disingenuous, carrying through with the ban and enforcing it for ulterior reasons undisclosed to the people.

 

Addendum – Importance of Dorje Shugden in the Sakya tradition

Since the great Sakya School of Tibetan Buddhism was founded, the lineage of practice has been passed down through forty-two successive spiritual heads, known as Sakya Trizins. From this list of prestigious masters, six of these heads or throne holders of the tradition stand out for their practice and proliferation of Dorje Shugden. This is a practice that they even spread amongst their innumerable disciples. These throne holders constructed shrines and protector houses to Dorje Shugden, composed prayers to him and taught their students how to engage in the practice. This list includes:

  1. His Holiness the 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen (1705-1741 CE)
  2. His Holiness the 31st Sakya Trizin Sachen Kunga Lodro (1729-1783 CE)
  3. His Holiness the 33rd Sakya Trizin Padma Dudul Wangchug (1792-1853 CE)
  4. His Holiness the 35th Sakya Trizin Tashi Rinchen (1824-1865 CE)
  5. His Holiness the 37th Sakya Trizin Kunga Nyingpo (1850-1899 CE)
  6. His Holiness the 39th Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen (1871–1936 CE)

The spiritual responsibility of the throne holder is to receive teachings covering the entire Sakya lineage, which consists of the common and esoteric transmissions of the Lam Dre, the Thirteen Golden Dharmas, the Hevajra tantric practices, and many others. These masters are then to proliferate these teachings. If is for this reason that they are considered to be highly learned and accomplished masters. It is through these six throne holders that the entire breadth of the Sakya lineage has descended to this day.

Due to the current political situation, with the Tibetan leadership telling everyone that the practice is bad, people might dismiss these six throne holders as being mistaken about the true nature of Dorje Shugden and their history of promoting the practice. But to come to this conclusion, one would need to assume that these throne holders were just ordinary men who are flawed, ignorant and make mistakes. If we think that, then they are rendered unreliable for spiritual growth. What is the point of going to get teachings from them if what they teach can be wrong?

To make such a dire accusation has far-reaching implications on the lives of everyday practitioners as they may lose confidence in what could well be a ‘flawed’ Sakya lineage. Since the throne holders were wrong, ordinary practitioners may feel it is pointless to continue practicing as the lineage is broken and has no blessings. Following this line of thinking, the Sakya lineage is invalidated because the entire lineage flows through these great throne holders.

According to the Tibetan leadership, Dorje Shugden is a spirit and by worshiping him one is no longer Buddhist. By engaging in his worship you lose the connection to the Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha because you break the refuge commitment of not worshiping an unenlightened being. This creates the cause for an unfortunate rebirth in the three lower realms. Following this logic, the six throne holders should have taken rebirth in those realms, but that is impossible as they have reincarnated back successively into the same family. The 37th throne holder, Kunga Nyingpo, is said to be the reincarnation of the 31st throneholder, Sachen Kunga Lodro, both of whom are even considered emanations of Dorje Shugden themselves. Some like Sachen Kunga Lodro have also composed lengthy prayers to Dorje Shugden which are still in use today.

It was due to their spiritual attainments that these Sakya throne holders were able to distinguish the nature of formless beings like Dorje Shugden. They did this using logical analysis or using their supernatural clairvoyant abilities. Most probably they used both methods and arrived at the same conclusion – Dorje Shugden is definitely an enlightened being and his practice is beneficial. This is why the throne holders composed extensive prayers to him.

From learning about these great throne holders, their abilities and achievements, great faith arises not only in the throne holders themselves, but also in the practices they taught, such as the practice of the Dharma protector Dorje Shugden.

Dragshul Trinley Rinchen (1871–1936), the 39th Sakya Trizin, was a strong practitioner of Dorje Shugden. Researching his family history, he even proved that his holy father, the 37th Sakya Trizin Kunga Nyingpo (1850–1899), was an emanation of Dorje Shugden.

The 39th Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen (1871–1936), head of the Sakya lineage, was a strong practitioner of Dorje Shugden. He is known for spreading the practice of Dorje Shugden within the Sakya tradition.

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  1. There are factions within the Sakya school. The general public will not know as Sakyas do not let the public know of these controversies. After much pressure and talks with the current Sakya Trizin he is finally releasing his power to hold the Sakya Throne until 2017. He will step down next year and we are looking forward towards that.The next throne-holders of Sakya will only be holding their post for three years which is unprecedented. This is due to much internal conflict. Many are not happy with the current Sakya Trizin and the many perks he receives. He is extremely wealthy and does not share. The other throne holders in line to take over are not happy about this. So with this new system of each Throne holder only being the head for three years, all will have the chance to be a throne holder (Sakya Trizin) of our lineage. This is very welcomed.

    There are many Dorje Shugden practitioners within Sakya. With the current Sakya Trizin speaking the opposite upset many but those unhappy chose to remain quiet. This article is very timely indeed. It is accurate in it’s logical debate. I will share with my Sakya friends especially the ones who do not speak English and will explain to them.

  2. I can’t really fathom why anyone would give up Dorje Shugden after knowing the qualities of Dorje Shugden. As seen from this article and many sources, Dorje Shugden is always beneficial and assisting in the growth of the dharma, even when it was being incubated within the Sakya lineage, so to say to borrow modern day jargon.

    Furthermore, the accusation on Dorje Shugden being a minor practice and being demonic in nature, the implication goes back not only to subsequent Sakya Lineage master after the founders of the Sakyas; but all the way back to Virupa one of the lineage masters of the Sakyas. Virupa eventually also was the one who reincarnated as Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen. Could Virupa in his omniscience not safeguard the Sakya lineage against such a pollution? Are all the practices within the Sakya not able to develop one towards full enlightenment, or omniscience that would have allowed them identify accurately the true nature of Dorje Shugden. Many of such questions are begging to be answered, hopefully many of the teacher and scholars will banish all doubts about the Sakya which had nurtured Dorje Shugden practice, before it began to take root within the Gelug order.

  3. I am no expert in Tibetan Buddhism or the Sakya lineage, but the logic presented here is sound and impenetrateable. When a monk worship demon, all the practice he had done will be nullify. There will be no spiritual attainment. Then how could the teaching passed down be legitimate? How could incarnation be valid? As absurd as it may sound, the logical conclusion therefore, is for Sakya and Gelug to call it quit, because the lineage teaching that are being learnt and taught today stem from and contain impurity, or worst still, demonic. Or, someone is lying and making false accusation towards Dorje Shudgen and denouncing His status and qualities.

    On the flip side, erudite masters from Sakya and Gelug, who were Dorje Shugden practitioners returned, in perfect condition from their past life to carry on their spiritual journey and aspiration. How can, or rather, how did all these Dorje Shugden lamas evict the doomed fate of demon worshipping? Hundreds of past and present lamas against a couple people in position who started the accusation against Dorje Shugden? Well, unless all the high lamas are demons masquerading under the guise of attained spiritual Gurus… the “cry wolf” is not going to work anymore.

    To me, the answer is rather plain and straight forward. Dorje Shugden is an enlightened Dharmapala respected and prayed to by many past and present masters. Political factors that are not related to the authenticity of his lineage are cunningly at play here. People who take sides have their private agenda which serious and genuine practitioners should not engage in. Because the fact that serious practitioner are not playing into the hands of the politicians, they suffered the fate of ostracization.

  4. May the next Sakya Trizin who is none other than Manjushri restore this degeneration. /:\/:\/:\

  5. It is not the Sakya tradition which is invalid, it is the Dalai Lama tradition, a political not a religious tradition. Furthermore the current Dalai Lama is an incompetent monk because he is blind to Guru devotion, so his words should be ignored and his delusions pitied like any other ignorant fool. Everyone with a Guru is protected against this kind of idiocy from before waking till after falling asleep. It’s absurd and venal.

  6. The first and most important role of any leader like Sakya Trizin is that he protect and defend his people and their beliefs from attack. This Sakya Trizin has failed to due this with his surrender of the their belief of Dorje Shugden to the EVIL Dalai Lama. His people must now turn their back to him and hope that in 2017 their new leader will publicly embrace Dorje Shugden.

    SHAME ON YOU SAKYA TRIZIN, SHAME ON YOU, YOU COWARD!!!!

  7. In answer to the title “Should the Sakya Lineage be dissolved”, my answer would be “NO”. I believe that Protector Dorje Shugden is enlightened and as such I believe that by his incarnating as the 37th Sakya Throne Holder Kunga Nyingpo, Dorje Shugden sees the validity in the continuation of the Shakya lineage. Being a Buddha with clairvoyance, he would have known of the declaration by the 41st Sakya Throne Holder, His Holiness Ngawang Kunga Tegchen Palbar Trinley Samphel Wangyi Gyalpo. The Shakya lineage had a rich history of attainments and incarnations, I am sure that it would not just disappear with the declaration of the 41st Sakya Throne Holder on Dorje Shugden being a “Spirit”. He himself was recognised to be the reincarnate of his grandfather, the 37th Throne Holder Kunga Nyingpo who in turn is the direct incarnate of Dorje Shugden. So I really don’t think that the 41st Throne Holder is Anti-Shugden, contrary to his public declaration Shugden being a “spirit”. If Shugden was a “spirit” then the 41st Throne Holder is an incarnate “spirit”, right?

  8. Dear Shashi Kei,

    Thank you for writing this article, and thank you the DorjeShugden.com admin for posting this up. I really like to read about your articles, because it is written with logic, and in this case (again), your logic makes a lot of sense.

    It has again shown that CTA is being illogically in banning Dorje Shugden. There are so many logic reasons to show that banning of Dorje Shugden is illogical, and I think that is the reason why CTA dare not have a dialogue with Dorje Shguden people, because they know their accusation will not hold.

    More and more accusations against Dorje Shugden by CTA is losing on logic, and the only thing CTA can harp on, is the hatred factor of the Tibetans. I think it is extremely sad that CTA need to employ this strategy of hatred, because CTA has a leader HH Dalai Lama who is the advocate of Peace.

  9. This is mind blowing! Indeed… if the Dalai Lama and the 41st Sakya Trinzin wishes to stick by their reasons that Dorje Shugden is a spirit and therefore invalid to be perpetuated, practised and carry forth its lineage… then the conclusion from this enlightening article is precisely what they should do…

    …proper remedies must follow and that includes the tearing down all that arose from Dorje Shugden and all that been associated with it. This would cover the greatest masters of the Sakya and Gelug lineages. Those who accuse Dorje Shugden wrongly and yet refuse to follow through with remedies are only highlighting what everyone already knows – that they are disingenuous, carrying through with the ban and enforcing it for ulterior reasons undisclosed to the people.”

    So what is it… is Dorje Shugden a demon and so that means all of Sakya’s lineage also becomes invalid and therefore should be from today on be removed from one of the school of Tibetan Buddhism, because how could we have an entire school and lineage borne of a demon Shugden spread its seed to the entire world? Isn’t that just a preposterous idea? But it is exactly what should be done if we go down that route.

    So we urge for His Holiness the Dalai Lama to please be clear and for the 41st Sakya Trinzin, you might as well pack up your entire lineage and close it down because everything that you teach or do from the time of the 30th Sakya Throne Holder, Sonam Rinchen, who recognized Dorje Shugden as an enlightened protector and enthroned the Him together with Setrap and Tsiu Marpo. On top of that… your lineage masters is also a demon since Dorje Shugden reincarnated
    reincarnate as Tashi Rinchen’s son in order to continue the Sakya family line.
    Tashi Rinchen not only brought Kunga Nyingpo, the reincarnation of the ‘demon’ Dorje Shugden into the world, but he also founded Dolma Phodrang that the present 41st Sakya Throne Holder is from. —-So bye bye Sakya Trinzin, time to pack up! if what you say is true.

  10. If the Dorje Shugden ban is still on and CTA wishes to continue enforcing it, then Sakyas are officially evil spirit/ devil worshippers. Dorje Shugden was first enthroned and practised by the Sakya, the current Sakya Trizin saying they do not practice is a slap on his own ancestor’s face. But I guess pleasing the CTA and getting favours from the Tibetan ‘government’ is more important than preserving the lineage ?

    Just like some gelug lamas, they can declare they don’t practice, but they in fact do it in secret. Sakya has such a long lineage of Dorje Shugden practice that things cannot just change overnight.

    Moreover, some of the Sakya Trizins (39th & 41st) are emanations of Dorje Shugden, so this lineage is polluted with incarnations/emanations of devils being the heads of the Sakya lineage. Whatever taught by the 39th and 41st Sakya Trizin are taught by the ‘devil’ Shugden, so all their teachings should be burnt and no longer accepted and practised in the Sakya lineage, if the Sakyas are serious about being ‘clean’.

    They should remove all pictures, texts by these 2 Sakya Trizins, just like how they remove Dorje Shugden statues from many monasteries.They don’t do that. Why? Why are Sakya monks not being put through the Vote-Stick like Gelugpa monasteries? Is it because CTA get special donation from the Sakya Trizin that is why they are granted special treatments or exceptions?

    Definitely this lineage should not be allowed to stay as they are against the cause (independence/ autonomy) of Tibet. Practising whatever that has been taught by the 39th and 41st Devil Sakya Trizin will shorten His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s life. I think CTA should likewise declare Sakya lineage and worshippers as criminals, just like how they did with the Dorje Shugden practitioners in general, to be fair.

  11. Dharma is not worshiping anything at all and all lineages are precious.

    All the deities in vajrayana are basicly aspects of the self arising wisdom and compassion of space- and conciousnesscontinuum or ranghar and rigpa rangshar.

    Dharmapalas just represent the protective aspect of wisdom and compassion that is free of god and evil because conciousnesscontinuum is free of lastingness and non-existence, free of duality so it is protective like immunsystem, regenerating and healing. Of course there are beings with form and without form who perfom wisdom and compassion activities because of their rigpa ranghar, that is rooted in spacecontinuum.

    So why creating the dualistic illusion that the protective aspect of wisdom and compassion, that is represented by a dharmapala is evil and worshiping?

    If you see a dharmapala deity pure, that just represents the protective aspect of wisdom and compassion, you have a wise view and with a compassionate aspiration you perform healing activities/practice, then the result is wisdom and merrit but not karma that is only effected by god and bad view/motivation and action.

    Non-duality -> wise/wisdom view -> compassionate aspiration/motivation -> healing action/activities/practice = wisdom and merrit -> protection/regeneration/healing/tantra/freedom and wellbeing.

    All beings a buddhas, HHDL is a Buddha and Dorje Shugden as well.

    Due to reality is non-duality, there is no god and devil. Beings can create a good or evil state of mind when they ignore non-duality and so on but never become a god or a deamon itself.

    If you want to help someone who is an evil state of mind, because of harmful actions, then it helps not to project onto this person that he is evil/devil but you teach this person about reality/non-duality that he can understand and that compassion can arise and that he can perform healing activities that he can get rid of/transform this evil state of mind into wisdom and compassion by himself to liberate himself.

    It’s just about a state of mind, so there are no gods and deamons itself but some beings are in a good state of mind and some are in an evil state of mind, due to ignorance of non-duality and some are more or less in an non-dualistic or wise and compassionate state of mind, that’s all. But basicly all beings are buddhas because they are free of lastingness and non-existence.

    So why creating the illusion that DS is evil and worshiping a spirit?

    Trust shunyata/non-duality
    Trust buddha
    Trust dharma
    Trust your inherent wisdom and compassion

    Like Buddha said, only follow your inherent wisdom and compassion but not others. Just take some time for analytical mindfulness to check anything for yourself. Don’t just follow a teacher because he is a teacher, don’t follow the words because it sounds nice, don’t follow the thoughts because they are interesting, but let your own inherent wisdom and compassion rigpa rangshar arise in yourself and find out anything for yourself. rigpa dön gyi lama is the perfect lama only trust in this lama!

    OM AH RAPA TSANA DHI – may the wrath of black manjushri destroy all illusions

  12. Main thing is 41 Sakya Trizin call Dorjee Shugden a spirit , then he is say many of the Sakya Trizin before is worship to the spirit . This is what I am understand from this news . My thinking is that the 41 Sakya Trizin is more worry about face n look good then to protect the lineage . If this is true then it is very sad for the lineage because this is the lineage that Dorjee Shugden is coming from . All the great lama are call to the Dorjee Shugden as Manjusri and also are call to Sakya Trizin as Manjusri . How can Manjusri insult to another being as spirit?

  13. YOU ARE a Buddha, and You and YOU and Y O U and Dorje Dhugden also. I pray to Buddhas, so I pray to YOU because YOU are a Buddha because YOU ARE and YOU STAY free of lastingness and non-existence, because of space. That is not worshiping a spirit that is praying to YOUR wisdom and compassion YOUR Buddhanature that is and stays free of good and evil.

    I AM a Buddha, my wisdom and compassion is what I AM.
    YOU are a Buddha, YOUR wisdom and compassion is what YOU ARE.

    I LOVE YOU ALL

  14. After reading this article, I cannot help but think that the followers of the Dalai Lama and most of the 41st Sakya Trizin followers are nothing but cult followers. They did not stop to think all the way back to the arising of Dorje Shugden and their lineage.

    Great read, well argued. So, basically the Dalai Lama and the 41st Sakya Trizin are treating their followers and personages without brains and do not think for themselves and only do as they are told without question.

    Thanks for this bit of education. But, I doubt if that will change he situation a whit. If the followers were thinking people and the leaders less of a dictator, then this situation would not have arisen in the first place.

    But, very good information. Thank you.

  15. Any lineage that had been in existence for so long should never be dissolved at the whimps and fancies of one or two persons, whether they are leaders, throne holders or otherwise.

    The Sakya lineage had been around for the longest time in Tibetan Buddhism. Just because it can be proven that this lineage also worship Dorje Shugden is not a valid reason to be dissolved.

    The 41st Sakya Trizin in collaboration with the Dalai Lama to denounce Dorje Shugden as a demon, has done the worst any throne holder can, by creating doubts to the minds of members of this religious sect that their lineage is questionable as 7 of his predecessors are Dorje Shugden worshippers. The 31st and the 37th Sakya Trizin are reincarnation and emanation of Dorje Shugden.

    If the head of the lineage worships a demon than the whole lineage is invalidated. Such is what the 41st Sakya Trizin has implied.

    In the same manner, the Dalai Lama also had said that his Teachers were wrong, in their propitiation of Dorje Shugden.

    The implications are nasty and it is time that such erroneous baseless activities are corrected by lifting the Ban on Dorje Shugden. Otherwise the whole Tibetan Buddhism may become invalidated.

    Lift the Ban to avoid further harm and misconception to Vajrayana tradition.

  16. I’m quite surprised to read that the 41st Sakya Throne Holder declared that Dorje Shugden is a spirit, by him saying this, that also means he is defying his lineage since they all have relied on Dorje Shugden, when he get teaching from the same teaching, and then he turn back to say it is demon? Then how authentic his teaching now to his student? If he has defied the whole lineage of Shakya, that means all his work has no more blessing as per Milarepa story.

    What I feel more surprise is for someone who has such calibre to hold the throne of Sakya lineage, how come he does not have the wisdom to see who Dorje Shugden really is? How come he can’t see that from his action, it will affect the whole lineage of Sakya? Or he actually announce Dorje Shugden is a spirit but quietly he is still practicing it.

  17. The Buddha’s teaching that we learn at this time is all the way from Buddha Shakyamuni. The Guru is the representation of the 3 jewels that continuously passing down the teaching from one Guru to another up to the time where we are now. Through the authentic lineage, Buddha’s teaching has been passed down through unbroken lineage with great blessing. This is an important point to take note as many practices we need the blessing from the Guru and the authentic lineage in order for our practice to bare fruits.

    Since Dorje Shugden practice has been passed down from the 30th Sakya Throne Holder, Sonam Rinchen how can one be so selective to just said Dorje Shugden practice is wrong now but accept all other teaching that passed down from Sonam Rinchen? By saying Dorje Shugden practice is wrong it also show that Sonam Rinchen is not attain as he can’t see that this protector is wrong but everything from him is right or OK but just the Dorje Shugden practice is wrong….. this doesn’t make sense at all.

    The 41st Sakya Throne Holder action really putting down his lineage and this directly created so much doubt on him. If the lineage can be wrong what else left to HH the Dalai Lama and the 41st Sakya Trinzin to follow? Establish a new lineage? And the next question is what is the source of their teaching then? Something to really think about!

  18. On the dot! When the Sakya leader and HHDL say that Dorje Shugden’s practice is demon worshipping, then all the lineages that practiced Him from before were all wrong. If Dorje Shugden is practiced by many attained Lamas, wouldn’t they know from the beginning? Then what happened to HHDL’s lineage now since He is saying that they were wrong. All the teachings especially from the teachers who are still practicing/practiced Dorje Shugden should be wiped out and replaced by His own lineage then.

    “The most crucial of these three is the root of blessings, of which the source is the Guru”
    Without our Guru, who is most compassionate and full of wisdom to give us Dharma, how to gain any attainments, if you say that they are wrong and doubt the practices that was given to you. Meaning the faith you had in your Gurus, gone and disappeared because someone told you that Dorje Shugden’s practice is wrong? The perfect example is Milarepa’s story. No attainments or results no matter how hard he tried because there was no blessings from Marpa, His Guru.

    The 41st Sakya Throne holder is another interesting story. He said that Dorje Shugden is a demon? He is known to be the reincarnation of Dragshul Trinley Rinchen, who is also a Dorje Shugden practitioner. So is He saying that there is no such thing as reincarnation because obviously the mind stream is different or was He recognised wrongly? Then His lineage should be questioned, right?

  19. It is sad to hear the Sakya lineage is having so many inhouse squabbles. Hopefully the 42nd Sakya Throne Holder may be able to put the house in order which obviously the 41st did not do. To publicly announce that “some Sakyas worshipped Shugden as a lower deity…” is a humiliation of the predecessors of the Sakya lineage, means saying they were wrong and have no attainments. It is similar to the Dalai Lama saying outright that his teachers were wrong in an interview reply to the question asked. The said statement by the 41st Sakya Throne Holder and the Dalai Lama’s reply made me think both of them would have no attainment.

    Whatever the CTA, Dalai Lama, 41st Sakya Throne Holder, and other lamas are openly saying of Dorje Shugden is putting down Buddhism – a religion and a spiritual practice that gives peace of mind, that transforms the mind, that teaches to not grasp on and all that the positive teachings by the Buddha, is now made a mockery.

  20. This is the 1st time i read about the lineage of Sakya, regarding ” they ” talked about Dorje Shugden. That’s doesn’t make sense to me at all. The 41st Sakya Throne holder said that Dorje Shugden is a demon? A ” High ” Lama said that?

    Ermm…. Who’s faults? The 41st Sakya Throne holder or HHDL?

  21. This article is something similar to the 103rd Gaden Tripa of the Gelug lineage. If the 41st Throne Holder of Sakya Lineage can say that Dorje Shugden is a demon, then what happen to the rest of the Throne Holders. They were also loyal practitioners of Dorje Shugden. Does that means that the past Throne Holders were wrong about the practice? Why must there be someone to say the practice is wrong and bad? If bad, what damage did Dorje Shugden do? What is their movitation for doing this?? Could it be a divine play?

  22. It was a great wonder why the 41th Sakya Throne Holder turning over in supporting HHDL? Isn’t Sakya was the root lineage of Dorje Shugden? The act of Sakya Trizin is absurd and it is exacerbate his own lineage. Secondly, it might be CTA behind this rebel their choices. It so pathetic and awful seeing such leadership urge their people in their religious believe and decision. Being a spiritual country, there shouldn’t be act of violence, anger and hatred to show the world. Instead, show TRUE compassion and kindness.

  23. Degrading Dorje Shugden whether in Sakya or Gelug are both very wrong. It will sound confuse for those who is still new in Tibetan Buddhism. They will think, “I was told Dorje Shugden is being practiced for the past 400 years, and it’s passed down generation by generation by the root Guru. Now, the Dalai Lama and 41st Sakya Trone Holder said it’s wrong to practice Dorje Shugden? So, who should I listen to? By saying that, do they mean I don’t have to listen to my Guru and stop practicing Dorje Shugden? If I stop, then where is my Guru devotion? If I don’t have Guru devotion, then why I join Tibetan Buddhism?”
    I am not a long time student in Tibetan Buddhism, but one thing I know for sure is, Tibetan Buddhism is different from other Buddhism is because it is well known of their lineage. Where does lineage come from? From our root Guru, from our root Guru’s root Guru, and his Guru’s Guru’s Guru and so on, which can be traced up to Buddha Shakyamuni. So, do the Dalai Lama and the 41st Sakya Trone Holder mean all their Gurus worshiped devil? Then where did they as a Dalai Lama, as a Trone Holder get the teaching from?
    That’s why when Dalai Lama was question about Trijang Rinpoche practicing Dorje Shugden, he always refuse to give answer and change to other topic. Whether it is divine play or not, I hope The Dalai Lama and the 41st Sakya Trone Holder know they are saying. And, lift the ban. _/\_

  24. I don’t know what is the hidden agenda for people such as the Dalai Lama and Sakya Trizin to speak against their lineage and their own teachers. If anything is the basis in Tibetan Buddhism it is the Guru devotion that a student has towards his teacher.

    In this case both say that their very own teachers are wrong. This means that the lineage is broken and nobody can trust anyone. Why should we trust the Dalai Lama and Sakya Trizin as both make up their own thing.

    This is very sad to see and I hope that the truth of the powerful Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden will shine all over this world soon.

    Thank you dorjeshugden.com for always bringing us the latest information about our precious Protector Dorje Shugden. We are very blessed to get these facts here so that we are aware of what is happening and we can help to end the Dorje Shugden ban.

  25. I have a question as to why the question about Dorje Shugden status is being debated by their own sect as their predecessors have all authenticated the status of Dorje Shugden as the Enlightened Protector and not some “lower deity”. Isn’t this already indicating that their Gurus were wrong? Then will the lineage be even authentic anymore? By even doubting ones Guru, one will not achieve any result of their practice and here we see a throne holder doing this. So in the end, who did bring the Dharma down? In the end, from an outsiders point of view, it seems to be a circus going on.

  26. Simply putting negative statements, saying things are wrong , without supporting with any reliable evidence, is such irresponsible act.

    How many practitioners would suffer from the consequences such as discrimination, physical assaults and more? How many people would then avoid Dorje Shugden, even though he is a real Buddha, a Dharma protector, who can really helps? How many works that the true practioners need to do to clear off the black name that has place on Dorje Shugden in order to spread Dharma to help those who need it?

    People should think twice before saying anything and not do things that only benefit oneself and bring harms to many.

  27. As Buddhist , if I am not learn enough of Dharma, I will lost confident of Buddhism due to the Ban of Dorje Shugden. Firstly I will ask why all this great lamas like 39th Sakya Throne Holder Dragshul Trinley Rinchen firm believe that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being and yet HH Dalai Lama said Dorje Shugden is Demon worship. Secondly, those great lamas who were the Dorje Shugden practitioner knew that doing so will reborn in 3 lower realms by worship a demon but the reality is some of them did reincarnate back again and some Dalai Lama recognised their reincarnation. Thirdly, the reincarnation is prove of Dorje Shugden practice is not a demon worship otherwise not reincarnation. Fourthly, if Dalai Lama is right, the Karma does not exist and so on. Why said Shugden practice will ‘harms the life of the Dalai Lama, why refuge vows not protected you from harm of demon? At the end, it is sad to see that the Ban of Dorje Shugden is putting down the Buddhism by Buddihst themselves and it told us that this is the degenerate of Dharma that the Buddha will still be correct, but people will no longer be capable of following the teaching.

  28. I am shock and sad after reading 41th Sakya Trizin said Dorje shugden is demon. I certainly don’t know what Holiness Sakya hidden agenda why he make such comment. Sakya lineage is the first lineage accept Dorje Shugen as their protector for many generation. This statement has make more doubt and confession for next generation who practice Dorje Shugen. Is that wrong to said Sakya lineage make mistake by practicing Dorje Shugden for many generation? With respect i am having doubt about Sakya lineage now with this statement

  29. The act of 41st Sakya Throne Holder H.H Ngaawang to support H.H Dalai Lama on the Dorje Shugden’s ban was directly denied on His own lineage, saying His Gurus was wrong and also telling the world The Sakya lineage was contaminated by
    “demon”. Also telling the world that the whole incarnation lineage of Sakya could not tell that Dorje Shugden was “demon” and only he can recognize, worst, Mahakala can’t subdue Dorje Shugden but have to keep Dorje Shugden in check! If a person is a dharma practitioner, will he or she accept this ridiculous act?

    Further more, what is Dalai Lama decision got to do with Sakya lineage. Dalai Lama is known as Gelugpa practitioners. Dalai Lama was not even the Gaden Tripa of Gelugpa. Why did the Sakya lineage have to obeyed and listened to Dalai Lama?

    The most important point is Dorje Shugden was enthroned by the Sakya lineage at the very first place, thus if Dorje Shugden was declared as demon by the Sakya, then Sakya lineage are to hold responsibility on damaging Dalai Lama.

  30. What will the all the people around the world and in Tibet do now? Dalai Lama says he is happy that Tibet is a part of China and should remain a part of China. So many Tibetans self-immolated for Tibet to be independent and now Dalai Lama did a 360 degree turn and says he wants to go back to Tibet and China and Tibet should be a part of China. So unbelievable. So many are angry and disappointed.

    Tibetans ready to be part of China: Dalai Lama
    Organised by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), the event was a part of “Thank You India – 2018″ held by the Tibetan community across India to mark 60 years of its exile in the country.
    Indo-Asian News Service
    Bengaluru
    Tibetans are ready to be a part of China if guaranteed full rights to preserve their culture, the Dalai Lama said on Friday.
    “Tibetans are not asking for independence. We are okay with remaining with the People’s Republic of China, provided we have full rights to preserve our culture,” the 83-year-old spiritual leader said at “Thank You Karnataka” event here in the city.
    Organised by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), the event was a part of “Thank You India – 2018″ held by the Tibetan community across India to mark 60 years of its exile in the country.
    “Several of Chinese citizens practicing Buddhism are keen on Tibetan Buddhism as it is considered scientific,” the Nobel laureate said.
    Born in Taktser hamlet in northeastern Tibet, the Dalai Lama was recognized at the age of two as the reincarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama, Thubten Gyatso. He fled to India from Tibet after a failed uprising against the Chinese rule in 1959.
    China annexed Tibet in 1950, forcing thousands of Tibetans, including monks, to flee the mountain country and settle in India as refugees.
    Since then, India has been home to over 100,000 Tibetans majorly settled in Karnataka, Himachal Pradesh among other states.
    https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/india/tibetans-ready-to-be-part-of-china-dalai-lama/293109.html

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  31. Dear Dalai Lama,

    Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this. They don’t speak out not because they don’t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. There is no harmony. Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

    By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

    It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point. You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

    Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.

    You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile. Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans. Just like a dictator, you decide on your own. It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

    No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

    You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society. There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

    You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

    After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

    Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you. All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

    The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong. Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

    Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

  32. Why doesn’t the United States and its allies end Refugee Status for the useless Tibetans? They have been refugees for 60 years now and don’t tell me they still cannot get their lives back in order?

    Tibetans really know how to put on a good show and use people, take their money and do nothing in return.

    Trump and Allies Seek End to Refugee Status for Millions of Palestinians
    In internal emails, Jared Kushner advocated a “sincere effort to disrupt” the U.N.’s relief agency for Palestinians.
    BY COLUM LYNCH, ROBBIE GRAMER | AUGUST 3, 2018, 2:12 PM
    Jared Kushner, U.S. President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor, has quietly been trying to do away with the U.N. relief agency that has provided food and essential services to millions of Palestinian refugees for decades, according to internal emails obtained by Foreign Policy.
    His initiative is part of a broader push by the Trump administration and its allies in Congress to strip these Palestinians of their refugee status in the region and take their issue off the table in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, according to both American and Palestinian officials. At least two bills now making their way through Congress address the issue.
    Kushner, whom Trump has charged with solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, has been reluctant to speak publicly about any aspect of his Middle East diplomacy. A peace plan he’s been working on with other U.S. officials for some 18 months has been one of Washington’s most closely held documents.
    But his position on the refugee issue and his animus toward the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) is evident in internal emails written by Kushner and others earlier this year.
    “It is important to have an honest and sincere effort to disrupt UNRWA,” Kushner wrote about the agency in one of those emails, dated Jan. 11 and addressed to several other senior officials, including Trump’s Middle East peace envoy, Jason Greenblatt.
    “This [agency] perpetuates a status quo, is corrupt, inefficient and doesn’t help peace,” he wrote.
    The United States has helped fund UNRWA since it was formed in 1949 to provide relief for Palestinians displaced from their homes following the establishment of the State of Israel and ensuing international war. Previous administrations have viewed the agency as a critical contributor to stability in the region.
    But many Israel supporters in the United States today see UNRWA as part of an international infrastructure that has artificially kept the refugee issue alive and kindled hopes among the exiled Palestinians that they might someday return home—a possibility Israel flatly rules out.
    Critics of the agency point in particular to its policy of granting refugee status not just to those who fled Mandatory Palestine 70 years ago but to their descendants as well—accounting that puts the refugee population at around 5 million, nearly one-third of whom live in camps across Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank, and Gaza.
    By trying to unwind UNRWA, the Trump administration appears ready to reset the terms of the Palestinian refugee issue in Israel’s favor—as it did on another key issue in December, when Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
    In the same January email, Kushner wrote: “Our goal can’t be to keep things stable and as they are. … Sometimes you have to strategically risk breaking things in order to get there.”
    Kushner raised the refugee issue with officials in Jordan during a visit to the region in June, along with Special Representative for International Negotiations Jason Greenblatt. According to Palestinian officials, he pressed the Jordan to strip its more than 2 million registered Palestinians of their refugee status so that UNRWA would no longer need to operate there.
    “[Kushner said] the resettlement has to take place in the host countries and these governments can do the job that UNRWA was doing,” said Hanan Ashrawi, a member of Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization.
    She said the Trump administration wanted rich Arab Gulf states to cover the costs Jordan might incur in the process.
    “They want to take a really irresponsible, dangerous decision and the whole region will suffer,” Ashrawi said.
    Saeb Erekat, the Palestinians’ chief negotiator, told reporters in June that Kushner’s delegation had said it was ready to stop funding UNRWA altogether and instead direct the money—$300 million annually—to Jordan and other countries that host Palestinian refugees.
    “All this is actually aimed at liquidating the issue of the Palestinian refugees,” hesaid.
    The White House declined to comment on the record for this story. A senior executive branch official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said U.S. policy regarding the U.N.’s Palestinian refugee program “has been under frequent evaluation and internal discussion. The administration will announce its policy in due course.”
    Jordanian officials in New York and Washington did not respond to queries about the initiative.
    Kushner and Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, both proposed ending funding for UNRWA back in January. But the State Department, the Pentagon, and the U.S. intelligence community all opposed the idea, fearing in part that it could fuel violence in the region.
    The following week, the State Department announced that that United States would cut the first $125 million installment of its annual payment to UNRWA by more than half, to $60 million.
    “UNRWA has been threatening us for six months that if they don’t get a check they will close schools. Nothing has happened,” Kushner wrote in the same email.
    State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said at the time that the U.S. had no intention of eliminating funding for Palestinian refugees, and that it was taking time to explore ways to reform UNRWA and to convince other countries to help Washington shoulder the financial burden of aiding the Palestinians.
    But the following day, Victoria Coates, a senior advisor to Greenblatt, sent an email to the White House’s national security staff indicating that the White House was mulling a way to eliminate the U.N.’s agency for Palestinian refugees.
    “UNRWA should come up with a plan to unwind itself and become part of the UNHCR by the time its charter comes up again in 2019,” Coates wrote.
    She noted that the proposal was one of a number of “spitball ideas that I’ve had that are also informed by some thoughts I’ve picked up from Jared, Jason and Nikki.”
    Other ideas included a suggestion that the U.N. relief agency be asked to operate on a month-to-month budget and devise “a plan to remove all anti-Semitism from educational materials.”
    The ideas seemed to track closely with proposals Israel has been making for some time.
    “We believe that UNRWA needs to pass from the world as it is an organization that advocates politically against Israel and perpetuates the Palestinian refugee problem,” said Elad Strohmayer, a spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
    Strohmayer said that Palestinians are the only population that is able to transfer its refugee status down through generations.
    The claim, though long advanced by Israel, is not entirely true.
    In an internal report from 2015, the State Department noted that the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees “recognizes descendants of refugees as refugees for purposes of their operations.” The report, which was recently declassified, said the descendants of Afghan, Bhutanese, Burmese, Somali, and Tibetan refugees are all recognized by the U.N. as refugees themselves.
    Of the roughly 700,000 original Palestinian refugees, only a few tens of thousands are still alive, according to estimates.
    The push to deny the status to most Palestinians refugees is also gaining traction in Congress.
    Last week, Rep. Doug Lamborn, a Republican from Colorado, introduced a bill that would limit the United States to assisting only the original refugees. Most savings in U.N. contributions would be directed to the U.S. Agency for International Development, the United States’ principal international development agency. But USAID is currently constrained by the Taylor Force Act, which restricts the provision of humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian Authority until it ends a policy of providing aid to families of fallen terrorists.
    “Instead of resettling Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the Arab-Israeli Conflict of 1948, UNRWA provides aid to those they define as Palestinian refugees until there is a solution they deem acceptable to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,” Lamborn’s bill states.
    “This policy does not help resettle the refugees from 1948 but instead maintains a refugee population in perpetuity.”
    A congressional aide familiar with the legislation said its intent isn’t to gut UNRWA funding, but redirect assistance to descendants through USAID.
    “The people that are suffering should still get assistance, but through appropriately defined humanitarian channels and aid programs,” the aide said.
    Similarly, Sen. James Lankford, (R-Okla.), has drafted legislation that would redirect U.S. funding away from UNRWA and to other local and international agencies.
    The bill, which has not yet officially been introduced, would require the U.S. secretary of state certify by 2020 that the United Nations has ended its recognition of Palestinian descendants as refugees.
    “The United Nations should provide assistance to the Palestinians in a way that makes clear that the United Nations does not recognize the vast majority of Palestinians currently registered by UNRWA as refugees deserving refugee status,” reads a draft obtained by Foreign Policy.
    Previous U.S. administrations have maintained that the vast majority of Palestinian refugees will ultimately have to be absorbed in a new Palestinian state or naturalized in the countries that have hosted them for generations.
    But the fate of the refugee issue was expected to be agreed to as part of a comprehensive peace pact that resulted in the establishment of a Palestinian state.
    “It’s very clear that the overarching goal here is to eliminate the Palestinian refugees as an issue by defining them out of existence,” said Lara Friedman, the president of the Foundation for Middle East Peace.
    “This isn’t going to make peace any easier. It’s going to make it harder.”
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/03/trump-palestinians-israel-refugees-unrwaand-allies-seek-end-to-refugee-status-for-millions-of-palestinians-united-nations-relief-and-works-agency-unrwa-israel-palestine-peace-plan-jared-kushner-greenb/

    DS.com Trump and Allies Seek End to Refugee Status for Millions of Palestinians (1)

  33. Supreme Court of India JUSTICE Mr. MARKANDEY KATJU (RETD) writes that Tibet is much better under the Chinese than it was under the lamas who only wanted to make the populace slaves. It was feudal and it will never return to the backwardness again.

    Time has come to acknowledge that Tibet has vastly improved under Chinese rule
    JUSTICE MARKANDEY KATJU (RETD) | 12 August, 2018
    From a terribly poor state hinged on a feudal system, Tibet has modernised and grows faster than the rest of China
    This article has been prompted by Jyoti Malhotra’s article in ThePrint ‘Tibetan government quietly changed its PM’s designation. India won’t be unhappy about it‘.
    China’s annexation of Tibet in 1959, ousting the Dalai Lama, had attracted it worldwide criticism. The Dalai Lama fled and was granted asylum in India, where he set up a government-in-exile with its headquarters in Dharamshala.
    The Chinese claim Tibet on the grounds that it has been part of the country since the Yuan dynasty of the 13th century, which is disputed by the government-in-exile. But let us leave this that matter aside.
    The more important question is whether Chinese rule has benefited Tibet.
    The answer is that it undoubtedly has. As the Reuters’ Ben Blanchard writes: “Today Tibet is richer and more developed than it has ever been, its people healthier, more literate, better dressed and fed”.
    Although Ben goes on to argue that this development masks “a deep sense of unhappiness among many Tibetans”, I will disagree. How can anyone be unhappy if s/he is healthier, better fed and better clothed?
    Under the rule of the Dalai Lamas (Buddhist priests), the people of Tibet were terribly poor, almost entirely illiterate, and lived like feudal serfs.
    Today, Tibet presents a totally different picture. The illiteracy rate in Tibet has gone down from 95 per cent in the 1950s to 42 per cent in 2000. It has modern schools, universities, engineering and medical colleges, modern hospitals, freeways, supermarkets, fast food restaurants, mobile stores and apartment buildings. The capital Lhasa is like any other modern city.
    While the economic growth in the rest of China has slowed down to about 7 per cent, Tibet has had a 10 per cent growth rate in the last two decades.
    Tibet has huge mineral wealth, which was only awaiting Chinese technology to be tapped. Nowadays, it has numerous hydro and solar power plants and industries running with Chinese help.
    Tibetan literature is flourishing, contrary to claims that the Chinese want to crush Tibetan culture.
    Of course, now the lamas cannot treat their people as slaves.
    The so-called ‘government-in-exile’, of which Lobsang Sangay claims to be the President, is a fake organisation, funded by foreign countries. They only want to restore the feudal Tibet, ruled by the reactionary lamas, something which will never happen.
    The writer is a former judge of the Supreme Court of India
    https://theprint.in/opinion/time-has-come-to-acknowledge-that-tibet-has-vastly-improved-under-chinese-rule/97172/

  34. While the government of Nepal has framed a policy to tighten the noose around non-governmental organisations, they have welcomed 30 Chinese NGOs to enter the country. These NGOs will penetrate the country’s social sector at the grassroots level. This is the first time such a large number of Chinese NGOs have entered Nepal at one time. Nepal is increasingly open to Chinese influence, a sign that ties between both countries are strengthening, while India’s influence is being reduced. The time has passed for India’s monopoly to remain uninterrupted in Nepal as opportunities to engage with China are being welcomed.

    30 Chinese NGOs all set to work in Nepal
    REWATI SAPKOTA
    Kathmandu, July 30
    At a time when the government has framed a policy to tighten the noose around non-governmental organisations, 30 Chinese NGOs have entered Nepal to penetrate the country’s social sector and the grassroots.
    The Social Welfare Council Nepal and China NGO Network for International Exchanges, an umbrella body of Chinese NGOs, have signed a memorandum of understanding to enable Chinese NGOs to work in Nepal. The agreement was signed yesterday between SWCN Member Secretary Dilli Prasad Bhatt and CNIE General Secretary Zhu Rui in the presence of Minister of Women, Children and Senior Citizen Tham Maya Thapa and Chinese Deputy Minister of External Affairs Wang Yajun.
    The agreement has paved the way for the first batch of 30 Chinese NGOs to work in Nepal for a period of three years. Their contract will be extended based on the consent of SWCN and CNIE. Representatives of these 30 Chinese NGOs were also present during yesterday’s signing ceremony. They have agreed to work in partnership with local NGOs to implement their programmes and projects.
    The Chinese NGOs are eyeing areas such as livelihood, healthcare, education, skill-based training, community development and disaster management. This is the first time such a large number of Chinese NGOs has entered Nepal at one time. The Chinese assistance so far in Nepal has largely been limited to development of infrastructure projects. But the entry of these NGOs indicates China is keen on making its presence felt in Nepal’s social sector and the grassroots, which, till date, have remained domains of the West and countries such as Japan and India.
    The MoU signed between SWCN and CNIE states that Chinese NGOs will be mobilised for ‘the benefit of needy Nepalis and to enhance ties between China and Nepal through people-to-people support programmes’.
    “The Chinese NGOs will abide by the law of Nepal in its entirety while carrying out development cooperation in Nepal,” says the MoU, adding, “Chinese NGOs will submit programmes to the SWCN to carry out development activities in partnership with Nepali NGOs and SWCN in line with plans and policies of the government of Nepal.”
    The MoU was signed at a time when the government has drafted the National Integrity Policy to limit activities of NGOs and INGOs, as some of them were found ‘trying to break communal harmony and proselytising Nepalis’. There were also concerns that high administrative cost of many NGOs and INGOs was preventing money from reaching the real beneficiaries. The policy clearly states that NGOs and INGOs cannot spend more than specified amount under administrative and consultant headings. They will also be barred from working against Nepal’s interests, culture and communal harmony and conducting activities to promote their religious, social or other agenda, adds the policy.
    Around 48,000 NGOs are currently registered in Nepal, of which only 1,600 have been receiving funds from INGOs, as per SWCN. The SWCN has directed INGOs and NGOs to spend 60 per cent of the budget to generate tangible results, while the remaining can be used to cover administrative costs and organise training, meetings and seminars.
    https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/30-chinese-ngos-all-set-to-work-in-nepal/

  35. The cracks in Tibetan society are starting to show, and it is now coming to the attention of local Indians who have all but identified the Tibetan leadership as the source of the divisions. According to this author, disunity amongst the Tibetans is now creating problems for Indian law enforcement agencies, and this disunity may culminate in young Tibetans holding silent grudges against their host country. It is incredible that after six decades of generosity from India, Indians are now facing the very real possibility Tibetans can be ungrateful towards India. The Tibetan leadership totally failed to impart positive values upon their exiled community, like gratitude for those kindest to them and the need to repay these kindnesses with real, tangible results. It’s also very unlikely that the Tibetan leadership will now start to do this, after six decades of failing to do so. Indians need to realise this, and see that there is no benefit for their nation to align themselves with the Tibetan leadership, and there never will be.
    Tibetan disunity not in India’s interest
    John S. Shilshi
    Updated: August 7, 2018, 11:00 AM
    India is home to the Dalai Lama and an estimated 120,000 Tibetan refugees. Though this humanitarian gesture on India’s part comes at the cost of risking New Delhi’s relations with China, India has never wavered in ensuring that Tibetans live with dignity and respect. Notified settlements across the country were made available so that they can live as independently as possible and practice Tibetan religion and culture. They are also allowed to establish centres of higher learning in Tibetan Buddhism. As a result, several reputed Buddhist institutes came up in Karnataka, and in the Indian Himalayan belt. In what may be termed as a gesture well reciprocated, and because of the respect and influence His Holiness the Dalai Lama commands, the Tibetan diaspora also lived as a peaceful community, rarely creating problems for India’s law enforcement agencies.
    The situation, however, changed from 2000 onwards when unity amongst Tibetans suffered some setback due to developments like the Karmapa succession controversy and the controversy over worshiping of Dorje Shugden. In a unique case of politics getting the better of religion, two senior monks of the Karma kargyue sect of Tibetan Buddhism, Tai Situ Rinpoche and late Shamar Rinpoche, developed serious differences after the demise of Rangjung Rigpe Dorje, the 16th Karmapa, in 1981. This animosity ultimately led to emergence of two 17th Karmapa candidates in the early nineties. While Tai Situ Rinpoche identified and recognised UghyanThinley Dorje, late Shamar Rinpoche anointed Thinley Thaye Dorje as his Karmapa candidate. Enthronement of their respective protégés at the Rumtek Monastery in Sikkim, the supreme seat of the Karma Kargue linage, being their primary objective, both started indulging in activities monks normally are expected to, and bitterness spewed against each other.
    The bitter rivalry assumed a new dimension when UghyenThinley Dorje suddenly appeared in India in January 2000. The competition became fiercer and hectic political lobbying, never known in the history of Tibetan Buddhism on Indian soil, became common place. Apart from pulling strings at their disposal in Sikkim as well as in the power corridors of New Delhi, these senior monks spat against each other with allegations and counter allegations, widening the gaps between their supporters. His Holiness the Dalai Lama, choosing to favour one of the candidates—a decision many Tibet watchers felt was ill-timed—had also limited possible scope of rapprochement. Hence, the Karma Kargyue followers are now vertically divided, while the camps are dragged into a long drawn legal battle.
    Another development that unfortunately split the Tibetans is the controversy over Shugden worshipping, which again is an internal matter of the Gelugpa sect, to which the Dalai Lama belongs. It erupted as a result of the Dalai Lama urging Tibetans to refrain from worshiping Dorje Shugden, a deity believed to be a protector, according to Tibetan legend. Shugden practitioners, who felt offended by the call, describe it as an attack on freedom of religion, a right, which Dalai Lama himself tirelessly fought for. On the other hand, die hard Dalai Lama followers perceived the questioning of the decision as one challenging the wisdom of the Dalai Lama and mounted massive pressure on Dorje Shugden practitioners to relent, with some even demolishing the statues of the deity. The rivalry ultimately led to split in two Gelug monasteries in Karnataka, and Serpom and Shar Garden monasteries in Bylakupe and Mundgod respectively came under the control of Shugden followers. The bitterness associated with the split is exemplified by the fact that till today, members of these monasteries are treated as some sort of outcasts by the others. Thus, for the first time, the Tibetan diaspora in India gave birth to sections opposed to the Dalai Lama, with spillover effects in Tibet and elsewhere.
    For India, with a fragile internal security profile, a divided Tibetan population on its soil is not good news. It has several long-term implications. It is common knowledge that China considers Dalai Lama as a secessionist, one plotting to divide their country. The latter’s claim of “all that Tibetans were asking for, was a status of genuine autonomy within the Constitution of the Peoples’ Republic of China”, had fallen into deaf ears. China also considers him as someone who plays to the Indian tune to tickle China. Therefore, at a time when China has successfully shrunk the Dalai Lama’s space internationally, India continuing to extend the usual space for him is viewed as complicity. Sharp reaction from China when he was allowed to visit Arunachal Pradesh in April 2017, is a recent example. Such being the delicate nature of India-China relations on matters and issues concerning Tibetans, India can hardly afford to ignore the division within the diaspora. Past experience of dubious elements from Tibet having succeeded in infiltrating the Central Tibetan Administration, including the security wing, should be a warning.
    It is also time India understands the reason behind Tibetans seeking Indian passports, despite an existing arrangement for issue of Identity Certificates, which is passport equivalent. Some had even successfully taken recourse to legal remedy on the issue, and left the government of India red-faced. These changing moods should not be viewed as desires by Tibetans to become Indian citizens. They are triggered by the pathetic state of affairs associated with issuing of Identity Certificates, where delays in most cases are anything between six months to one year. Early streamlining of the process will drastically reduce their desire to hold Indian passport. It will also remove the wrongly perceived notion among some educated Tibetan youth, that the cumbersome process was a ploy by India to confine them in this country. While India should not shy from requesting the Dalai Lama to use his good offices to end all differences within the community in the interest of India’s internal security, it will also be necessary to ensure that young Tibetans do not nurse a silent grudge against the very country they called their second home.
    https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/tibetan-disunity-not-indias-interest

  36. Although the Dalai Lama has offered an apology, the Arunachal Pradesh Congress Committee (APCC) still expressed their disappointment over his controversial comment on Nehru, the Arunachal Pradesh Congress Committee (APCC). Dalai Lama called Nehru self-centred.

    The Congress said Dalai Lama being a foreigner should shun and refrain from interfering in the internal as well as external affairs of India.

    Dalai Lama should abstain from imparting controversial information to students: Arunachal Congress
    Dalai Lama should know that a spiritual leader like him is shouldering great expectation: APCC
    | DAMIEN LEPCHA | ITANAGAR | August 12, 2018 9:58 pm
    disappointment over the recent statement made by Tibetan Spiritual Leader the 14th Dalai Lama in which he called Jawaharlal Nehru, the former Prime Minister of India as “self-centered” and the one responsible for parting India and Pakistan.
    “Although Dalai Lama expressed regret over his controversial comment, the APCC is extremely thwarted by it. A Tibetan spiritual leader calling names to an Indian leader who sweated most to keep him and his followers safe from Chinese aggression is simply not acceptable. Today, India is home to lakhs of Tibetan refugees who are living in 37 settlements and 70 scattered communities across different states of India,” APCC vice-president Minkir Lollen said in a statement on Sunday.
    “Dalai Lama may have forgotten that India provided a beam of light and hope to Tibetans remaining in Chinese-dominated Tibet and in the neighbouring Chinese provinces politically cut off from the Tibetan heart land. All these happened only because India has great leaders like Gandhi and Nehru who took the responsibility of social burden to shelter thousands of persecuted Tibetans then in 1959,” Lollen added.
    Minkir said Dalai Lama should know that a spiritual leader like him is shouldering great expectation, hope and trust of millions on record and the same are watching his contribution towards the mankind.
    “In such circumstances, Dalai Lama should abstain from imparting partial and controversial information to the students who are the torch bearer of the nation,” the Congress said.
    Further stating that the statement of the spiritual leader could be a politically motivated one and made with an effort to approach Prime Minister Narendra Modi for survival of his continuation in the country, the Congress said Dalai Lama being a foreigner should shun and refrain from interfering in the internal as well as external affairs of India.
    https://nenow.in/north-east-news/dalai-lama-should-abstain-from-imparting-controversial-information.html

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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