Kundeling Rinpoche speaks about Dorje Shugden and the Dalai Lama

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His Eminence Kundeling Rinpoche speaks openly, from the heart and logically about the Dorje Shugden ban. How this ban has affected himself, his students, his life, the lives of Tibetans and practitioners around the world. Kundeling is one of the few lamas who contribute to the lifting of the Shugden ban risking his life as he has received numerous death threats which has not deterred him. He continues to guide his students all over the world to continue to ‘fight’ peacefully to remove the illegal ban on Dorje Shugden by His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama has never once told his followers not to perform violence on Tibetans who speak against his policy. In fact on the official CTA website, they make known to the Tibetan world who dare protest against the Dalai Lama. You can see for yourselves here: http://tibet.net/dolgyal-shugden/ Which democratic government in the world will post pictures of peaceful demonstrators? Included are their backgrounds and also addresses in some cases. It is clearly to incite the Tibetans to take action against these fellow Tibetans while the Tibetan leadership sit back and say “We didn’t tell them to do it”. But CTA posted their pictures which is worse. Tibetan leadership (CTA) dare not post the pictures of non-Tibetan Protestors, which you should take note. If these Tibetan protestors were a ‘danger’ to the Dalai Lama’s life, surely the other foreign protestors would be the same threat by logical deduction? Why are they not posted? Because CTA dare not castigate the financial help they are receiving from foreign governments by inciting hatred towards their respective citizens.

Kundeling Rinpoche has done much work to remove the ban against Dorje Shugden and we can only say he continues to do so by various means which would not be spoken about here as it would further endanger his life. The Tibetan leadership in their history has been known for violence, murder, arrests, torture and basically defamation. Kundeling will continue his works solely due to his devotion towards his lineage, teachers and practice.

Kundeling Rinpoche’s perfect command of English, indepth knowledge of the political/spiritual issues within the Tibetan communities makes him an authority on why the ban was put into place at all. His direct and clear cut explanation would help anyone trying to understand this ban, which has caused confusion for millions around the world.

This is a must watch interview in which the listener can learn so much about the inner workings of what was the formerly known Tibetan Government and now named the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA). Some of the information Kundeling Rinpoche reveals is heartbreaking as well as shocking, but necessary.

Kundeling Rinpoche’s intelligent talk shows exceptional courage in how he faced the bleakest moments of his life by simply following his heart in his spiritual convictions. He didn’t choose his spiritual path for political reasons whatsoever, but it has become political and threatening his life at times. But he remains stalwart and firm in his convictions handed to him by his erudite masters.

This must watch interview is moving, informative and at the same time highly necessary to understand why the ban was put into place. You can agree or not agree with Kundeling Rinpoche, but one thing is for sure, what he says is compelling and from the depths of his personal experience.

Please take note: When pro-Shugden people protest against Dalai Lama it hurts the Dalai Lama supporters. But how about when pro-Dalai Lama supporters and Tibetan leadership say negative things about Shugden lamas, practice and the Shugden protector? Also having printed and online material against Shugden?  It also hurts does it not? The Tibetan leadership and CTA started this.  Because prior to the ban, everyone was in harmony. The Tibetan leadership have hurt and damaged the sentiments of millions of Shugden pactitioners in Tibet and around the world. How come they must remain silent? When this is done, do they not have the right to protest, speak up and be heard?  Why not peacefully speak up and rectify the situation?  Now there is no harmony within Tibetan Buddhism. The disharmony will continue as the Shugden ban issue will not die down. The practice will not go away. Who knew about Shugden purported damaging effects prior to this. No one, as there was none. The Sakya and Gelugpa Traditions peacefully practiced  Shugden for 350 years while being in harmony with all other Buddhists.  People were practicing for hundreds of years and there was no damage to anyone by Shugden. Impossible.  It’s only when the Tibetan leadership instituted the illegal ban on Shugden all the disharmony arose. The disharmony continues and is growing.

Everyone deserves the right to practice or worship any deity they wish and no one should criticize. If they do criticize, be prepared for opposition.  Only the Dalai Lama can change this by removing the ban. Why hurt the sentiments of one group of Tibetans and millions around the world. We appeal to His Holiness the Dalai Lama to have an open and fair dialogue and find a solution to end this irrational ban. No one is enjoying this turmoil.

Jigme K
(Student and admirer of Kundeling Rinpoche)


Advice on Dharmapala Dorje Shugden By HE Kybje Kundeling Rinpoche (In English)



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  1. Excellent praise of the unmatchable. Kundeling Ri poche.paul

  2. Although this interview with His Eminence Kundeling Rinpoche was two years ago, I listen with great sadness as the state of ban that had brought so much sufferings to the Shugden practitioners, especially Shugden Lamas and Tibetans practitioners. H.E. Kundeling Rinpoche gave a very clear and truthful interview which he had experienced himself the effects of the ban. Even now 2 years later, more and more evidence are being exposed on how the Dalai Lama and CTA had instigated the harsh treatments towards Shugden practitioners. CTA had funded campaigns of hatred, schism and segregation using sponsorships and donations which were meant to help the “refugees” out of poverty. Well, “refugees” are still languishing in poverty at camps around their host countries, ie. India, Nepal, etc.

    H.E. Kundeling Rinpoche was correct that unless the Dalai Lama does not practise nor take refuge, he being the emanation of Buddha Cherenzig has no karma to be harmed. So how could any real practitioners believe and accept that Protector Dorje Shugden can harm him?? Are they saying the Dalai Lama is a mere human with no attainments? The only harm that he could receive will be from his followers/student due to their ignorance. If he was a compassionate Guru, then he would have been absorbing his student’s negative karma to help them in their spiritual path. Seeing the terrible actions of his students towards Shugden practitioners (especially abuses towards attained Masters which karmically brings one to hell) and the Dalai Lama’s relatively healthy condition, it brings the question of whether the Dalai Lama considers them as his students? If not, then he won’t be absorbing any karma from them right?! Soooo….these “practitioners” had given up their REAL Gurus to follow one who does not consider them students and have no feelings towards them other than to give them public teachings. Sad when you go into it. They should really examine what the Dalai Lama is to them and how forsaking their own precious Gurus had affected their practise. Of course if they are not practitioners, then there is nothing of concern for them and they are just expressing their true nature in partaking the abusive actions towards Shugden practitioners.

    May the Dalai Lama please manifest his true Buddha nature and put a stop to the political ban on enlightened Dorje Shugden. There is no shame in admitting the truth and who are we to question the ways of the enlightened minds.

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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