Unclean Offerings Should Be Returned

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  1. First, there are signs posted at Ganden and Drepung that they don’t accept donations from Shugden practitioners.

    Second, why would Shugden practitioners donate to the main monasteries now? And why would they donate expecting it back at some point?

    Third, what was freely given in the past was given to the named organizations. Does anybody donate to an organization expect it back ever, especially realized lamas? Maybe unenlightened people with great attachment and self-cherishing would want a donation back, but realized beings are selfless. Maybe that’s why you don’t see Ganchen Rinpoche asking for donations back but you see an article like this here on this we site asking for donations back.

    Third, Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel isn’t practicing Shugden. That is just plain misinformation and use of a high lamas name for the sake of the agenda of this article and website, just like how this website lists a lot of ex-shugden practitioners as still practicing. Stop misleading for the sake of an agenda. Control your speech.

  2. I think now the issue is not talking about someone asking back the offerings or sponsorships. Of cause all the great masters make sponsors with genuine motivation and never wish for any returns. The issue here is about those anti Dorje Shudgen seen the Dorje Shudgen practitioners as contaminated and unclean. The Dorje Shudgen practitioners have been expelled from monastery. Schools and public service providers such as libraries deny entry to Dorje Shugden practitioners. Shops in Tibetan communities display clear signs stating that Dorje Shugden practitioners will not be served. The Dorje Shudgen practitioners have been rejected or resisted by Tibetan communities since the ban imposed. If this is the case why not they also rejected to inhabit the buildings that sponsored by Dorje Shudgen practitioners since whatever related to Dorje Shudgen is unclean. The point is if they can accept sponsorship from Dorje Shudgen practitioners in the past and continue use the facilities, they should stop all the negative actions towards the Dorje Shudgen practitioners IMMEDIATELY. Please do not practise any more discriminations.

  3. I agree discrimination should be stopped. However, the fact that this article states that the main monasteries still knowingly accept donations from Shugden practitioners, and how this article uses Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel’s name, his contribution to Gaden Jangtse, and falsely states he is a current practitioner of Shugden totally discredits this article. All I am saying is that if you want to make a point, do it with integrity and honesty.

  4. Kensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel is an ex-abbot of Ganden Jangtse. His sponsorship during his practice of Dorje Shugden is deemed unclean and unfit. Therefore sponsored items shouldn’t be used, no? How can the sponsored items be clean now? This is totally double standard. You take and use the sponsored items from Shugden practitioners and banishing them. There is no gratitude. There is no way to develop compassion.

  5. In Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel’s case, he is not “banished” from Gaden Jangtse, he is highly respected in Gaden Jangtse still, so I think using him as an example for the agenda of this article is dishonest.

    People are seeing this the wrong way. Instead of pointing the finger and saying, “Hey you took some offerings and now you should give them back! Where’s your gratitude and compassion!” This should be seen as a great opportunity to develop true generosity in one’s own mind. One shouldn’t give with the thought of receiving praise/gratitude. It will just be tainted with the 8 worldly concerns and at that point is it really the perfection of generosity at that point? Everybody here should see it as a precious opportunity to practice the teachings of mind training.

    Can people here honestly say that the main monasteries are not spreading the Dharma? Are not these donations still going towards the true purpose? You should rejoice they are being used regardless if Shugden practitioners are seen as unclean, in fact, that is even more powerful for mind training. But no, we rather rant and rave about the perceived faults of others.

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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