Dharma Demystified: Dorje Shugden As A Yidam

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  1. This article is quite presumptuous. If Dorje Shugden or any supermundane dharma protector was suitable to be a yidam for this age or any age, don’t you think Trijang Rinpoche or Pabongkha Rinpoche would have said so? The author of this article must think she or he knows better than these high lamas. Next article by this author will say Dorje Shugden will manifest as a tulku and be the fifth Buddha of this age pushing Buddha Maitreya to the one after…

  2. Dear Twostepsdown,

    I disagree with you. This article is not presumptuous because it tells you the facts about Yidams and Protectors and the differences between them. Then, it goes on to explore the possibility that Dorje Shugden could be a Yidam for his speed and efficacy. There is no distinction between one enlightened being and another and so this leads one to think of the possibility of Dorje Shugden arising as a Yidam and that depends on the composition of a sadhana and its commentary.

    The possibility is there and I don’t think it is presumptuous to think of this possibility if it benefits people. This of course, can only be done by an attained lineage lama like Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche. If you do not agree with the facts presented in this article, please explain the points that you disagree and your reasoning. Otherwise, this article makes a lot of sense and hopefully some who reads this would make a request to a lineage lama to consider this.

  3. It’s common knowledge Dorje Shugden is an Uncommon Protector because he is Lama, Yidam and Protector. This is well documented in many commentaries.

  4. “there are both Yidams and Protectors, and the Protectors are of both mundane and supra‐mundane aspects. Yidams are those such as the three: Dra Nag Yamantaka, Dong Yamanataka, and Vajra Bhairava Yamantaka. In the aspect of a supra‐mundane Protector, he is Dharmaraja Kalarupa and, in the aspect of a mundane protector, he is the great Dharmapala Mighty Dorje Shugden.”

    - Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche in Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors

    Looks like to me that Trijang Rinpoche says Manjushri in the form of a Yidam is Yamantaka and Dorje Shugden as a mundane protector, not as a yidam.

  5. This is a real good article.
    It explain clearly on the different of Yidams and Protectors
    Most important its explain the importance of daily Sadhana in order to engage into the practice of a Yidam

    Dorje Shugden can definitely be a Yidam. He is more than just a protector. To me, he manifest as a protector to be close to us.
    As per said in this article the different between Yidams and Protectors
    “is not based on their enlightened nature but solely on their role and function in a person’s spiritual practice”
    If we agree that Dorje Shugden is the emanation of Manjushri, why can’t He be Yidam? By nature, for an enlightened mind, there is just a lables.

  6. the function of Dorje Shugden is to be a protector not a yidam. That is Dorje Shugden’s role and function according to Trijang Rinpoche. Sure it is a label based on a function, and Dorje Shugden and Yamantaka are both Manjushri, but we can’t call an apple an orange just because it is a fruit.

  7. Yamāntaka is seen as a wrathful manifestation of Mañjuśrī, the bodhisattva of wisdom, Yamantaka is also a Yidam, and of the Highest Yoga Tantra class in Vajrayana. But in other contexts, his functions as a dharmapala, or ‘Dharma-protector.
    To say that DS can’t be a yidam is like saying that Yamantaka can’t manifest as both a protector and Yidam.
    As Buddhas, they emanate in whatever form is necessary for the time and practitioners. Thus, DS practice is of course just as holy and beneficial as Manjushri and Yamantaka’s practice but is considered more “effective” because DS has manifested especially to counter the obstacles of this time and in that way is karmically “closer” to us.

  8. Dear Twostepsdown,

    Trijang Rinpoche also said this:

    “If someonewere to think that it would be impossible for those great beings
    who had already attained enlightenment to transform into the aspect of a worldly spirit, although it is certainly true that it would be impossible for them to take birth in that form through the force of karma and delusion, it is possible for them to emanate in that form through the power of compassion and prayer for a special purpose, and such emanations definitely do exist.”

    I think If you understand the above, you wouldn’t even need to discuss whether DS is a Yidam or protector.

  9. buddha i love

  10. I guess at this degeneration and age. There’re no right or wrong but it is logical that we need Dharma Proctector to clear off our path in order for us to be able to focus on Dharma Practice. Especially when in the modern society we have so many distraction from samsara which we have been accumulating negative karma which we don’t even realize it, of cause the Yidam practice is important but I think if we were to able to gain any progress in our practice, Dharma Protector practice is just as important.

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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