Contemplate This

CONTEMPLATE THIS…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Invite them, teach them, slowly and give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the practice assuming it is ‘wrong’. Wouldn’t that be a Buddhistic approach to all ‘wrong-doers’? Actually Dorje Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be a better and more true to the spirit of Buddhism to be accepting? So those reading this website who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those who are practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

Many beings who have said or thought negativities against this protector will regret and see the benefits and enlightened nature of Lord Dorje Shugden, King of the manifested deities who resides simultaneously in the Three Worlds…After all, if H.H. the Dalai Lama can say that his guru Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche is wrong in this practice, then he leaves the door wide open that His Holiness Himself can be wrong also. What would make His Holiness right and His Guru wrong?? If His guru can be wrong, then disciples of the Dalai Lama can say that the Dalai Lama is wrong also. If we choose that view, it becomes messy. So we have to think that outwardly His Holiness puts his ‘reputation’ on the line to speak out ‘against’ Dorje Shugden in His skillful means to not create fear in the hearts of sectarian people who use the holy lineages of Nyingma, Kagyu, Sakya and Gelug against each other. As the destruction of any lineage or deterioration would set the example for other lineages. They are somehow interdependent.

We at this website respect His Holiness the Dalai Lama from the depths of our hearts and at the same time follow our golden vajra commands of our lamas we met previous to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The commitments of Dorje Shugden we have received from our root and lineage lamas prior to His Holiness must be upheld also. All those great lamas who are also the lineage lamas of His Holiness cannot be wrong. If they are, then the other practices, lineages, initiations, transmissions passed to His Holiness would be ‘stained’ by the practice of Dorje Shugden also?

So for example, His Holiness kindly confers the Kalacakra many times throughout the world. He has received this lineage from Kyabje Ling Rinpoche. Kyabje Ling Rinpoche’s root lama is Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche Jetsun Dechen Nyingpo recognized as the emanation of Heruka Cakrasamvara. Every great Gelugpa lama is directly or indirectly connected to this great being. Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche practised Dorje Shugden throughout his holy life. So if his practice is wrong, then he would be a wrong lineage lama to Kyabje Ling Rinpoche. If that is wrong, then His Holiness is passing practices that are so called ‘impure’ to many today. That is impossible. His Holiness is definitely pure as well as His lineage lamas, for example Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche. Even His Holiness could not override any master of any school of Buddhism or any sect, otherwise His Holiness would put Himself in the position of being eventually overridden also. Who would want to do that? All the many lineage masters who practiced Gyelchen Dorje Shugden in their previous incarnations are back and studying/teaching again. Many have been recognized by the oracle of Dorje Shugden and His Holiness the Dalai Lama himself. So why are they back?? Shouldn’t they have taken unfortunate rebirths??

Below is a beautiful prayer to the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden as composed by H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama in the mid 70′s..His Holiness at that time and now is of the same mindstream, free of mistakes as He is the Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara. Those of you who have tremendous obstacles, fearful situations, desperate predicaments, financial woes that hinder your dharma growth and practice should engage in the tremendously quick and efficacious practice of Dorje Shugden. It must be combined with pure Guru devotion, consistent practice of one’s yidam, holding one’s vows and words of honor, no harm should be done to others, respect of all lineages and lineage lamas, teachers and masters. Forgive and forbear those who show enmity and disdain. For that would please the holy mind of the Dharmaphala King of the Three Lokas, Gyelchen Dorje Shugden. Even if one has no confirmed practice, lama or vows, still with good motivation, if one propitiates this holy protector, one can see the benefits. Like anything with time, the help, and mystical intervention of this supreme being will be felt more and more obvious. Especially if one is on the path of the cultivation of Lam Rim realizations. Put your energies not into worry, despair, depression, unnecessary wastage of time, but channel it into the modernly adapted yet supreme practice of this protector.


A Propitiation of Mighty Gyalchen Dorje Shugden,
Protector of Conqueror Manjusri Tsongkhapa’s Teachings

By the Supreme Victor, the Great 14th Dalai Lama

Glory of the wisdom, compassion and power of infinite Buddhas
Miraculously powerful protector of Manjusri Tsongkhapa’s Teachings
Arisen as a lord of all wrathful worldly hosts
Come from the abodes of Tushita, Kechara, and so forth!

Prostrating with devotion of body, speech, and mind
I confess all mistakes and faults in which
Out of delusion, I have contradicted your holy mind:
Accept with forbearance and show your smiling face!

Arising from the sport of non-dual bliss and void
Are offerings and torma of flesh and blood heaped like a mountain
First portions of milk, yogurt, beer and tea swirling like the ocean

Auspicious signs and substances and various animals
Peaceful and wrathful ornaments, enemy-destroying weapons and armor
Amassed samaya substances, outer, inner, and secret, without exception!

Having fulfilled your heart commitment and purified degeneration
By making these actually arranged and visualized offerings
Increase Lozang the Victorious One’s Teachings
And the life span and activities of the Teachings’ upholders!
Further the happiness of beings in the Gaden [Podrang] dominion!

Especially pacify all harm to us, the yogis and entourages
That arises because of previous karma and immediate conditions
And spontaneously accomplish, just as we wish
All good things, both spiritual and temporal!

Grind to dust without remainder
Enemy hordes that think and act perversely
Towards the teachings and lay and ordained people
With potent, accurate, powerful great vajra fire!

Especially, cause the saffron-clad community of Dungkar Monastery
Brightly beautiful in bonds of pure morality
To soar the path of immortal liberation
On unified wings of Sutra and Tantra!

In brief, we enthrone you, O Deity, as the supreme
Collected nature of all Gurus and Protective Deities!
From densely gathered clouds of the four activities
Pour down a cool rain of the two siddhis!

This, A Propitiation of Mighty Gyalchen Dorje Shugden, Protector of Conqueror Manjusri Tsongkhapa’s Teachings, entitled Melody of the Unceasing Vajra ’s composition was urged, not only by the vajra prophecy of the great emanated Dharmapala himself, but also on behalf of the general community by the master of the Dratsang and all of its officers, with offerings. Accordingly, the one called Holder Of The White Lotus, Bearer of the Buddhadharma, Ngawang Losang Tenzin Gyatso Sisum Wangyur Tsungpa Mepa De composed it at Dungkar Monastery with spontaneous auspiciousness.

All benefit and bliss! Siddhi Rastu

Domo Geshe Rinpoche, at whose Dunkar Monastery His Holiness composed these inspiring verses, was one of the greatest Mahasiddhas in Tibetan history. A greater example of saintliness and, mind you, non-sectarian compassion would be hard to find. Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang said of him, “We are exactly the same”, and Domo Geshe put his Monasteries in Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s care before he passed on. The 13 th Dalai Lama praised him as Je Tsongkhapa incarnate. Both the 13 th and the 14 th Dalai Lama praised Dungkar Monastery’s oracle, through which they obtained very valuable advice in difficult times.

This prayer shows beyond the shadow of a doubt the enlightened origin and the “holy mind” of the King Protector as seen by His Holiness. No “ghost” can come from Tushita and Kechara, Maitreya and Vajrayogini’s pureland. No “ghost” can cause you to “soar the path of immortal liberation on unified wings of Sutra and Tantra”!

Seeing this, we think it is safe to conclude what this conflict is not about. And who knows, maybe it is not a conflict at all, except in our conflict-hungry minds that can’t stand the notion of interdependence and cause and effect?

His Holiness welcomes a visit from Kyabje Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche while in Northampton, Ma. USA (May 2007)
(Photo from Trijang Buddhist Institute

Our discussion forum is OPEN and for everyone to share, read, agree, disagree,contribute, copy, and discuss. The reason our forum is open is because we are here to bring education to the practice of Dorje Shugden. Everyone has their own way of propagating the practice of Shugden. This is our way. If you like it, we welcome you, if you don’t, our apologies,and by all means start your own, but why criticize non-stop any forum or website of Shugden? Since we have invested the time and energy into this website/forum, it is at our discretion which direction we head. If you do not agree, then open your own open discussion board, generate your traffic, share your directions and work hard to make it grow . After all, everyone has their own market.

So no need to debate incessantly who’s view is right or wrong. How does that benefit Shugden’s cause? We would be happy if another 1,000 Shugden websites mushroomed all over the internet. Of course that would involve commitment, hard work, long hours, considerable expenditure, resources, sponsors, staff, travelling, translators,and tremendous faith in Dorje Shugden to open a website/forum and maintain it. But if your commitment to Shugden is not a hobby but a practice, then you will be willing to go all the way to bring knowledge and awareness to others by website or any dharmically correct means. When and if more Shugden interactive websites blossoms all over the net that would be a good indication Shugden practice is growing further.

Whatever the case, if you do not find this website/views/forum to your direction, why do you keep visiting? Obviously there is substance and content here for you to visit. And we welcome you whatever your views are. Do not agree with everything we say, that is healthy, but do not judge us on a few views that differ from your own as we work very hard for the same protector and same lamas. Even many anti-shugden people visit this website as we are able to see clearly. Hopefully they can read and understand more.

Challenging anti-shugdenpas with war of words does not get far, but give them facts, information and history. Knowledge is the key. There are more of them than us, but with knowledge and patience, we can win over more people. Our focus is more to people who know nothing and share Shugden with them. Once they understand Shugden, most will experience the benefit and become loyal practitioners without being tainted by preconceived doubts planted by wrong views and politics. Whatever your thoughts, we have a right to our views/contents/sharings just as you do. And no one has the right to condemn as what we are doing is no crime.


We have the blessings of various high lamas for our website as well as many sangha members. We appreciate their messages very much. They commend us for our work and even offer their kind prayers for further success. We appreciate this tremendously. We very much would wish for their prayers and blessings. We have privately raised much fund to send to the various Dorje Shugden Monasteries of India, Nepal and Tibet for the past 5 years and will continue to do so. We are fortunate to raise sponsorship to help the various monasteries extensively from private donors who do not wish involvement with centres but are very happy practicing Dorje Shugden as introduced by their lamas.

We at wish very much to support the various Shugden Monasteries which will continue to grow. Our purpose in this is to preserve the Shugden lineage. In this day and age discrimination for any religious beliefs should not be tolerated-Full Stop. Religious discrimination of views within Shugden practitioners themselves also does not make sense as it helps no one. Religious freedom and the freedom to worship without bias is what we wish to see in the world today and we will work hard continously to bring knowledge on the pure lamas of this lineage and Shugden’s practice to the world.

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  1. This is truly the way to maintain faith in Shugden and HHDL

  2. This truly shows that actually the ban is in preparation for something big. Hopefully the ban would be lifted soon so that all of us would know the main reason for the ban.

    Even so, if there really is a ban to Dorje Shugden, why would the Dalai Lama want to compose such praises to Dorje Shugden? More over, why would he want to visit Trijang Rinpoche when Trijang Rinpoche practices Dorje Shugden heavily, and the Dalai Lama is against Dorje Shugden. If that really is the case I believe that the Dalai Lama would not be smiling so happily in the photo as well!

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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