Singapore and the Dalai Lama

Tibetan Buddhist centre, Thekchen Choling in Singapore openly display anti Dorje Shugden sign in their temple grounds

By: Wong Kim Seng

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When Singapore won its independence in 1965, it was a poor and almost insignificant island with few natural resources. If Singapore today is a great success story, it is because the deep sense of political, economic and social vulnerability in the early years drove its government to develop itself into a modern economy with a wise and socially responsible society.

The government of Singapore today has two significant goals:

  1. to maintain a thriving economy based on good international relationships with its political and trade partners, and
  2. to keep its society stable and respectful of the various races and religious groups that make up the nation.

Recognizing that religious dispute is one of the most dangerous elements that can destabilize the country, the government of Singapore passed the Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act in 1990 aimed at preventing civil unrest due to faith-based tensions.

In addition, given its relatively small domestic market, Singapore’s relationship with external markets is critical. Without doubt, China represents an important factor in the country’s economic future and stability of the nation. It was not that long ago when Mr. Lim Swee Say, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office, cautioned the country’s business community that it is “imperative that Singaporeans continue to augment our ability to engage China as part of our strategic vision to maintain global competitiveness and long-term economic vitality”. To the Singaporean government, a good relationship with China is an exercise of their responsibility towards their citizens by providing them with a stable economic future. It is not a question of taking sides in China’s geopolitics.

An up-closed picture of the sign posted publicly in Thekchen Choling, prohibiting Shugden practitioners from entering the temple complex

It is therefore the responsibility of every Singaporean citizen and organization to assist the government in its endeavors. To work against the government’s policies is to jeopardize the wellbeing and future of the people. It is behavior that might even be labelled seditious since these plans are initiated for the good of all Singaporeans, regardless of their race, religion or ethnic background. The responsibility to support a government acting for the collective good of its people is even more necessary for a Buddhist organization. The Buddha himself instructed that one should never do anything to oppose the government of one’s country that may result in great harm being inflicted on people’s lives and livelihood.

Thus it is alarming that despite the efforts the Singaporean government has made since 1965, there continue to be religious elements today that appear to be working against them. Instead of acting in the interests of all Singaporeans, such organizations have allowed themselves to fall suspect to foreign influences whose interests are not for the welfare of Singaporean society. For example, the Singaporean-based Buddhist society Thekchen Choling seems to regard itself beholden to the foreign theocrat, the Dalai Lama, more so than to its own government. Led by a Singaporean citizen Felix Lee (also known as Lama Namdrol), the organization has taken up the Dalai Lama’s fight against a Tibetan Buddhist sect that worships the deity Dorje Shugden.

In 1996, the Dalai Lama suddenly proclaimed Dorje Shugden practitioners to be enemies of the Tibetan people who are allegedly working for the Chinese. This is an accusation the Dalai Lama has never been able to substantiate. After banning this practice, the Dalai Lama then compelled all Tibetans to be loyal to him and to regard Shugden practitioners as enemies of the state. As a result, opposing this Buddhist practice became symbolic of standing with the Dalai Lama and opposing the Chinese government. Thus organizations like Lama Namdrol’s who wish to align themselves with the Dalai Lama for financial and material gain, will fervently oppose this practice and encourage anti-China sentiments.

The Dalai Lama explained his opposition to Shugden due to it being ‘demon-worship’. This is a cunning move because it portrays Chinese spiritual leaders such as the Panchen Lama (a well-known Shugden lama) and members of the Chinese government as demon worshippers. That makes them much easier to malign. It is for reasons like these that some Singapore Buddhist leaders have labelled the Dalai Lama a “political monk” and not a religious one.

Disappointingly, Thekchen Choling’s support for the Dalai Lama and their subsequent opposition to the 11th Panchen Lama clashes with Singapore’s support of this lama, as expressed through Foreign Minister Mr. George Yeo. The Singaporean government acknowledges the 11th Panchen Lama whom China recognizes but the Dalai Lama rejects. When Thekchen Choling and other likeminded groups promote the Dalai Lama’s stance instead of their own government’s, these organizations undermine their country’s efforts in building a positive relationship with an important trade partner. In 2013, China became Singapore’s main trading partner, with total trade amounting to US$91.4 billion. As of 2010, more than 7,000 companies from the United States, Japan and Europe operated from Singapore, along with 1,500 companies from China alone.

Singapore’s Foreign Minister George Yeo, who is on a six-day visit to Beijing, greets other members of the 11th Panchen Lama’s delegation at Xinhuang Temple yesterday (14 Sept). Mr Yeo became the first foreign leader to meet the 20-year-old monk who holds the second-highest position in Tibetan Buddhism after the Dalai Lama. The meeting follows Mr Yeo’s visit to Tashilhunpo Monastery, the traditional seat of the Panchen Lamas, in Shigatse, Tibet’s second-largest city

It is therefore shocking that Thekchen Choling and some Singaporean citizens would chose not to support its own government and instead act against it. To support the Dalai Lama is to reject the Panchen Lama, and this will not have a positive impact on Singapore’s friendship with China. When Singapore’s Buddhist centres align themselves with the Dalai Lama, there is absolutely no benefit whatsoever to Singapore. In fact the opposite is true.

Wherever the Dalai Lama goes, this Shugden segregation takes root and his supporters make it a domestic problem. What is incredible is how willingly Singaporean organizations like Thekchen Choling have embraced a foreign conflict and ‘imported’ it into Singaporean society, where it is now spreading disunity amongst Singaporean followers of Tibetan Buddhism. While the Singaporean government has been fostering religious harmony, organizations like Thekchen Choling or even Amitabha Buddhist Centre openly call for a marginalization of Shugden believers.

Amitabha Buddhist Centre, which regularly organizes trips to visit the Dalai Lama, has on their registration forms a disclaimer stating those who worship Shugden are banned from their activities. Thekchen Choling’s Lama Namdrol has during religious teachings purposefully created ill will against Shugden followers by repeating the Dalai Lama’s false accusation of Shugden Buddhists. The danger of such actions is not limited to Shugden believers and non-believers. Once individuals and organizations sense that faith-based discrimination is not curtailed by the country’s authorities, it spreads. What begins as a simple disagreement can very quickly transform into inter-faith tension because there is little to stop someone from openly denouncing another person’s religion. Such organizations should remember that they have a duty of care to the Singaporean government and the people and should not be inciting religious disharmony. Openly courting the favour of a foreign institution is an indication that they do not respect the law of their own land but also that they do not respect the rights and freedom of Singaporeans to make their own choices with regards to their faith.

Amitabha Buddhist Centre openly prohibits Shugden practitioners from participating in their events despite being a Buddhist organisation, endorsed by the Singapore government
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In this way, actions such as those from Amitabha Buddhist Centre and Thekchen Choling’s damage more than just Shugden Buddhists. It also damages Singapore as a country and her citizens as well, by infringing on a Singaporean citizen’s freedoms and rights. For example, Charitable Assistance Society of Thousand-Arm Chenrezig, Singapore (CASOTAC) were reported to be making a scene in front of a Buddhist exhibition in Suntec city. They insisted that the exhibition was not sanctioned by the Dalai Lama, and therefore it was inappropriate. Their actions led the Dalai Lama’s government to issue a statement against the exhibition, which had been legally approved by the Singaporean government. That CASOTAC followers distributed flyers in front of such an exhibition was challenged by followers of another group. The resulting religious disharmony for the entire organization behind the exhibition led to the exhibition being shut down, leaving many Buddhists confused and unsettled. Whose government are CASOTAC really following? Singapore’s or the Dalai Lama’s?

Religious harmony and freedom has always been a right in Singapore. Any member of the public may attend any religious events of their choosing without limitations of other religious dogmas as they are free to express themselves. The Amitabha Buddhist Centre, for example, states in print that those who practice Dorje Shugden are not allowed in their premise or teachings as it is in accordance with the Dalai Lama’s wishes. Why are these registered centres allowed to sideline other faiths and traditions, using foreign-derived influences, as opposed to living cohesively and fostering harmony with others?

Whether it is Singapore or any other sovereign state, no foreign influence should be allowed to be in position to manipulate its political, economic or social affairs like the way the Dalai Lama has managed to, via actions of organizations like Amitabha Buddhist Centre and Thekchen Choling. The legal and moral obligations of Singapore’s Buddhist centres should remain with the country that has supported, sustained and licenced their activities. Instead of working against the Singaporean government, the likes of Lama Namdrol should support the government and help to protect its people from corruptive foreign influences that only serve to disrupt a harmonious society and ruin important trade partnerships.

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  1. Is Felix Lee even a real monk? I see that he has some pictures where he is in robes but he is not ordained. Isn’t that wrong and misleading? Reminds me of those fake monks you see wondering around asking for money in shops and restaurants.

    People like Felix and and other Dalai fans can do what they like with their own lives but now what they are doing is affecting Singapore’s relationship with an important international partner in trade. Why side with the Dalai to the detriment of your own people and country?

    I am not involved in the China vs Dalai issue and I am not interested to take sides. But we have to think of the future of our country and do the right thing. People like Felix should not undermine our relationship with any of our trade partners, including China.

  2. Anyone who has lived in Singapore would know that by and large, Singaporeans are a practical bunch. In general, most Singaporeans would not equate supporting the Dalai Lama with going against or not supporting the government. This is a religious issue. Very much separate from the secular concerns of the government. Unless there is danger of religion jeopardizing the social order or economy, the Singapore government would not be concerned nor would the people. Delicate as the social harmony is in Singapore, the nation has learnt and absorbed religious and racial tolerance into its DNA. Don’t get me wrong. The people, as would the government, are fully aware of the tinderbox that is social disharmony. And the law comes down hard on anyone who threatens it. As had been witnessed in the past and more recently, the Thaipusam event. My point is that the line of argument presented here would likely not touch the Singaporean psychic.
    Again, don’t get me wrong. I am a Shugden practitioner. I was given the practice by my spiritual guide and I hold it dearly in my heart. And, I am also a Singaporean. I support religious freedom and equality. I strongly disagree with the ban that the Dalai Lama had instituted and proliferated across the world on Dorje Shugden practice. I cannot find any logical reasons supporting the ban. But in Singapore’s case, it would be hard put to say these monasteries and the people had broken the law or compromised Singapore’s national security – socially or economically through their activities. Speaking from a Singapore perspective, that is.
    My personal take is to follow the guru’s instructions. If it means taking actions to disseminate and let the world know through strong actions (social media, lawful protests, etc) that the ban is illegal, then that’s what I will do in my efforts to end the ban. To create the causes to have the ban revoked. If the action to take is through prayers, then that’s what I will do as well.
    So, perhaps those who read this article would start to wonder if their discriminatory actions towards Shugden practitioners are justified. Perhaps they will start to have doubts. Perhaps. Then, that too is a very good thing.
    Thanks for writing this article. Kind regards.

  3. Any chance of someone (Citizen or PR) lodging a police report about it? I’m sure it violates the Singapore Constitutional Law, see below (ii)…
    Part III, Ch. 2, Fundamental Rights and Liberties
    III. Constitutional Safeguards
    552. The Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act (MRHA) regulates religious harmony in Singapore by creating a Presidential Council for Religious Harmony, and prohibiting certain forms of behaviour. Essentially, it prohibits two types of acts: (i) those that directly cause disharmony between different religions and (ii) those that indirectly cause disharmony, when religion and politics are mixed. The council’s responsibility is to report on such matters pertaining to religious harmony in Singapore as are referred to it by the minister or by Parliament, and to consider and make recommendations on prohibition orders made by the Minister.

  4. Rob, I think it is a good idea to lodge a report on them. Segregation based on religious prejudice in this day and age should be dealt with.

  5. Basically I think should not even raise this matter since you all want religious freedom. Every lama has their own way n believes why cause more u unnessary argument and hatred. What you trying to do is to raise alarm toward others tht HHDL follower block religious freedom, but I guess is merely just an instruction from their guru. So pls.. If you think HHDL is wrong or whatsoever just don’t attend his teaching… By that way u create good karma for your protector to raise. No one is right and wrong… Is basically our own wrong.. I respect HHDL and DS…

  6. Religion freedom is important for every practitioner no one like to be discriminated, however the policy one center is they should not stop people to visit or even attend teaching no one have the right to do such an act stoping people from learning the holy dharma is a very bad karma.

  7. Religion and Govt is totally two different issue. should not make a issue and link Gov into religion. nothing wrong with NOTICE.

  8. I believe the Buddhist association has every right to decide who can or cannot enter its premises as much as those who wish to practice Dorje Shugden do so within their own parameters. It is a private property, no? Why impose your believes on others and what is your intention of wanting to enter this particular Buddhist center in the first place? HHDL made it very clear that for those who wish to practice Shugden do so by relinquishing their rights to ever attend his teachings. Therefore, if this center adheres to the Dalai Lama’s instructions then, they should not allow Dorje Shugden followers entry because I think they are also up-keeping their Guru devotion to the Dalai Lama. If you want to be devoted to your Zong Rinpoche, Pabongka Rinpoche and their lineage, then, please give the same allowance to others to be loyal to the Dalai Lama.

    I have seen a new wave of Shugdenpas surfacing, drawing a distinction from the GKT protests; a group that purports to respect HH Dalai Lama. I am not sure of this group’s intention but I certainly hope that they will talk their talk and not just use this as another propaganda to further their selfish motivations.

  9. Thank you for your concern, CB Jon. Whilst I agree that we must respect those who hold strong their samaya with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, it doesn’t mean that this samaya should be used to abuse others. And this is happening blatantly before our eyes and must not be tolerated. Because by abusing this samaya with His Holiness, it is very bad karma for the students and also for His Holiness himself. I hope you would re-consider your propositions above.

  10. Religious freedom of choice is a definite in Singapore. Its against the law to create unhappiness and conflicts between religions by means of electronic and/or hardcopy publications. Hence, i personally thinks that no one is fitted or has the right to condemn any belief or religions that benefits people in one way or many. Freedom of choice is the way to go, i do not condemn the religion or a person you believe in but i do not support any form of discrimination, especially openly discrimination.

  11. It is very selfish for one to use a high lama status, His Holiness the 14 th Dalai Lama in this case, for personal agendas. To take sides is itself one of the 8 worldly dharma for wanting fame. Using His Holiness’ fame to make oneself and his temple famous and gain credibility in hope that the public will be drawn and donations will be given for whatever they need – it is very costly to have two wives to begin with. This is selfishness on a small scale.

    The selfishness on a bigger scale is that the lama’s ordering for notice to displayed outwardly discriminating Shugden practitioners violates the Singapore Constitutional Law as listed by Rob above, denying one’s basic human rights as well as inciting fuels of hatred towards Shugden practitioners, ignoring the importance of maintenaning religious harmony.

    The way the temple is being run (mixing of Chinese beliefs and Buddhism) and the actions the people take in discrimating the Shugden practitioners are secular approaches which is totally political. Therefore there’s no mixture of religion and politic in this case. We should employ the secular methods to deal with this once and for all!

  12. I am so amazed (unpleasant way) tat such an advance country like Singapore has their own people discrimanting other Buddhist practice and they are not in tandem with the government vision for a better nation.

    The messages which has been highlighted in the above articles from the 2 buddhist centres is appalling that they blatantly discriminate other people belief/practices so openly in a country which advocate religious freedom.

  13. I have heard of Tekchen Choling and ABC and have even been ABC’s shop to purchase some Dharma items. This is sad and that’s why I do not join their Dharmic activities because of my Shugden practice. I feel very connected with Dorje Shugden and being Singaporean, I feel that I have my right to practice and I do not need their advice to practice. I do hope that these petty centers change their policies and take down these offensive signs so people like me can be allowed to join in the activities.

  14. @Winson, Andy, CB Jon – A BUDDHIST society has every right to decide who can enter and who can’t? Should Buddha Shakyamuni have decided who is allowed to enter his sermons and who can’t? What would people think of Buddha if he had barred certain people from his sermons?

    Why bother praying for the welfare of ALL sentient beings if your then going to say “except for this person who cannot enter my temple because I do not agree with their religious beliefs”?

    The fact such a sign exists at this temple is a clear reflection of “Lama” Namdrols (lack of) attainments and motivations. You will never see signs like these in the temples of higher beings like Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche or Domo Geshe Rinpoche. They leave it up to them whether they want to enter or not, but welcome anyone and everyone who is sincere.

    So whats next for Thekchen Choling? Why not put up signs saying no blacks, no Indians, no Chinese, no Jews are allowed? Once a sign goes up, where does it stop?

  15. @Winson, Andy, CB Jon,

    Let’s be honest, if Buddha Shakyamuni was giving a sermon, would He say those who practice Shugden may not attend His sermon? Of course not?

    We should emulate the acceptance and love of Buddha Shakyamuni. All dharma teachers and students should emulate their refuge, which is the Buddha.

  16. Hold on everyone who are for or against the contents of this article! Whether there is religious freedom or not in Singapore one distinct fact which is overlooked is this:-

    A Protector worship is personal and if I am a buddhist and have the privilege to be introduced to Dorje Shugden as my protector to remove my obstacles to practise the Dharma well, does this mean we cannot go into other buddhist temple to pray and make offerings to Shakymuni Buddha, Chenrizig, Amithaba Buddha etc etc.

    Then what are temples all about if not places of refuge to all Buddhists. This the basic logical question of which I think there can be no just nor fair answer.

    Of course the other points of debate is clear that WHILE IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO. Simple meaning is to obey and respect the laws, rules and aspirations of the country you abide so that besides being a Buddhist you are also a law abiding citizen.

    As a country, the Ruling Government of Singapore has done a great job in providing good and affluent environment for their citizens. Why rock the boat and shake the foundation of progress and goodwill between the Government of Singapore and its people. Why obey the wrong authorities and execute orders from someone not in your land. Silly!!!!!

  17. The Buddhadharma that Lord Buddha taught is the only means by which beings can free themselves from suffering and attain liberation and enlightenment.That is why Bodhisattvas and compassionate attained beings, like Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and many other great Lamas, come back to samsara and this earth again and again and endure much hardship to spread the dharma to bring this necessary light to dispel the darkness of ignorance and to eliminate suffering. A Buddhist centre , in forbidding anyone from entering its doors to receive the Dharma, is going against the grain of all this. Can it really call itself a Buddhist center? To me it’s more like playing politics, when Buddhist centers bar Shugden practitioners from entering their doors.

    Even on political grounds, there is no logical reason to bar anyone from entering a Buddhist center in a country that practices democracy and whose citizens’ basic right to freedom of choice of religion is enshrined in the constitution. In fact, centers who bar and discriminate against Shugden practitioners, are already violating the country’s constitution.

  18. Singaporeans are probably one of the most law-abiding and loyal citizens of the world. That is because we have good leaders and policies that brings the results of economic and political stability resulting is a hight standard of education and living. This in turn adds to the economic growth. It other words, life is good in Singapore. To maintain this, the government has maintained a policy of respecting, cultures and religions of its citizens.
    In a multi-ethnic country, it is common to see people of different religions and cultural background celebrating each others festivals and holidays are declared for Christmas, Aildilfitri, Deepavali and Chinese New Years among others. It is also common to see chinese operas and live “girl tai” (a sort of concerts performed for the spirits) on the streets of Singapore.

    Hence, I am totally condemn any acts of persecution and discrimination, religious or otherwise as this make a mockery of all the hard work the nation has put in for half a decade. It is also strange that the people can entertain the spirits with operas and live shows and are still allowed to enter the premises mentioned except one special “spirit”.

    Why can the Dalai Lama who claimed to be Kuan Yin, the Boddhisattva of Compassion have compassion for this spirit? It make me wonder!

  19. Any form of discrimination is illegal no matter how we try to justify it. It’s against human rights. For this centre to discriminate so openly in Singapore, I hope the Singapore govt will do something to stop it. Otherwise, it will give precedence for other centres to discriminate. So when do we put a stop to this?

  20. Is truly a sad news, we have our own choice to practice yet we need Religious freedom!!!

    Singapore is a very open, understanding and respectful country, personally i feel that the Singapore government would not agree with the signage and the discrimination as above.

    Singaporean or PR please help to make a report so millions Dorje Shugden practitioners or followers will not affected…

  21. Thank you admin for this article. Shocking to hear of something like this, especially those signages, can exist in Singapore. Singapore is reputed for being a great upholder of its governing principals, which includes equal and transparent treatment to all who break the law.

    CB Jon is right that each should be given the religious freedom to practice privately what one chooses, including His Holiness the Dalai Lama. However, when you are operating a retail space, although it is not public area, not allowing a certain group of people to enter is similar to the discrimination in the past where signs like these were permitted:

    “We serve whites only, No Spanish or Mexicans”

    “Get Rid of All Filipinos or We will Burn this Town”

    Therefore, I would say, in practicing our rights, we must consider and respect the governing law of the country who is so kind as to host us, regardless of whether you are famous or not. In fact, the more famous and influential you are, the more you should guide your followers to act in virtuous and exemplary manners.

    It is mentioned that these centers and the followers are simply holding samaya with the Dalai Lama and should be left to do so. However, should holding samaya with His Holiness also include acting in ways that are skillful and do not reflect badly on His Holiness. Practice of discrimination, violence and vulgarity would reflect poorly on His Holiness as reflected in these links:

    “Do the Tibetans who direct such language towards Dorje Shugden supporters believe that their behavior reflects the Dalai Lama in a positive light? People who do not know Buddhism will see things very simply – if the Dalai Lama’s students are kind and compassionate, then it is because their teacher has taught them to be kind and compassionate. If the Dalai Lama’s students are vulgar and violent, then they must have learned it from somewhere.”

    “The supporters of Dalai Lama showing their anger and vulgarity and violence right after attending Dalai Lama’s Dharma teaching, are they “Buddhists”?”

    We must remember that we live in this world where people may not understand. Lama Tsongkhapa is the manifestation of Avalokiteshvara for compassion, Manjushri for wisdom and VAJRAPANI FOR SKILFULNESS. Therefore, practice of Dharma, including keeping samaya with His Holiness, should be done skillfully with respect and consideration to other’s minds so that it does not jeopardize the Dalai Lama’s image and public perception of Buddhism.

    A few signs here and there against very few individuals may be overlooked and even considered “no big deal”. However, the issue is not limited to these Buddhist centers and Shugden practitioners. The real issue being addressed is discrimination. How can discrimination be accepted against a certain group and forbidden in another? Unlike the CTA (, all governments must act fairly as they were elected to protect all their citizens equally. I trust that the Singapore government has the clarity and wisdom to recognize this danger.

    There is another good comment stating: religion and politics should not mix. However, un-idealistically, religion has shown a tendency to jeopardize social order, which in turn impacts economic performance. We never know how individuals and group of people would perceive this type of discrimination or how they will view their government for not doing anything about it. Therefore, although this issue may appear to be distant to the Singapore government’s and Singaporean’s interest today, look farther. The Cultural Revolution started with a very simplistic and personal vendetta of one person and look what it did to the entire nation and its history. Wrong is wrong and as Buddhists we should not ignore such wrong simply because “it has nothing to do with me” directly.

    Therefore, I thank for sharing this information now as prevention is certainly better than cure.

  22. As far as I know, Singaporeans are very loyal and law abiding to their country due to good leadership. The government is very open and respectful of others faiths and religion so it came as a shock to hear this sad news of the center discriminating human rights and religious freedom.

    I don’t think that anyone should discriminate others based on their faith. Religious harmony and acceptance of each others faiths and believes are very crucial for the stability of any country.

    I hope the center will realized their mistakes and remove the sign.and not violate the country’s constitution.

  23. I am not a Singaporean but I studied for 6 years in Singapore. This was back in the 80s. I studied in a Catholic school whereby it was compulsory for all students to attend mass in the chapel every week, irrespective of what religious faith they come from. For years we did that and there was no conflict whatsoever. Many of us who were not Catholics did not convert and see no issue in participating in such activities. We learnt a thing or two about other’s faith and it was pretty fun in fact !
    My point is, I do not understand why Thekchen Choling or ABC temples need to feel so threatened by Shugden practitioners. If they are steadfast in their own practice they will not need to worry about all those that are in other practices. The only reason I think they put up such signages is just to let people know that they are on the side of His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Why need to take sides and make announcements of them? To ride on his fame? To seek praise? To seek gains?
    Dorje Shugden temples do not put up signages in their premises or conditions in their forms to say that the Dalai Lama and his followers are not allowed in their temples or monasteries ! In fact the Shugdenpas are the ones that have been abused physically and mentally ! They are the ones being threatened and bullied !
    Also as Buddhists aren’t we suppose to practice Equality and Equanimity ? I do not respect actions taken by Thekchen Choling and ABC and I personally will never support such centres . I am not legally savvy to say if they have broken any constituitional laws in Singapore, but for me they have certainly broken humanity laws !

  24. This website is filled with so much controversy, so much hatred, so much negativity….. and we are only sentient beings trying our best to overcome our nakedness to the Truth, the Dharma….certainly not enlightened and not qualified in any sense to fully know what is right and what is wrong.

    If we are truly practitioners, our path in Buddhism is via the dharma….and our refuge is in the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha.

  25. So sad to see this segregation also in Singapore. Religion is a personal choice and can not be forced on someone. I hope that HH realises this soon. This ban has created so much suffering. Luckily Singapore is a modern and advanced country and the government will not accept discrimination which belongs to very dark times in the past.
    May the ban be lifted swiftly.

  26. I sincerely hope the dispute of against Dorje Shudgen’s practice can be settled as soon as possible. The dispute has done a lot of damage to the harmony of society and Buddhism. Buddhism is experiencing internal disruption due to this ban, now the negative effect has been extended to harm or damage the harmony of society. It is getting out of hand now.

    I am sad to learn that CASOTAC went to exhibition of another Buddhism organization to distribute the flyer to claim that this exhibition is not approved by H.H.Dalai Lama, although, it has been approved by government. Please stop harming activities to the harmony of society and Buddhism. We are spreading the Dharma teaching to the world for peace not for war or dispute. I am not sure you guys realized that you are heading in opposite direction of pure Dharma teaching.

    Everyone has freedom of choice of their own religion depend on their affinity. We have not right to force other to follow our thinking or beliefs. We just want to practice Buddhism in peace regardless of our practice or beliefs are same as you. Buddha Shakyamuni has given us 84,000 teaching to suit our various karmic capacity, these teachings are not meant for war or dispute. Please kindly bear in mind. Dharma never taught us to be big bully

  27. No religious institution in Singapore should post signs barring anyone from any faith from a house of worship. The house of worship is for someone to connect with the divine. What is so divine when some people are not allowed to enter and worship? This is bad.

  28. Dorje Shugden practice is heavily banned in the Gelug monasteries by H.H. the Dalai Lama. There is no one who can speak up or vote against it. It was not a suggestion by the Dalai Lama but an order. He was very firm on cutting it out. To foreigners it may seem un-democratic, but this is how it’s done in Tibetan societies since the time 5th Dalai Lama took power. It has the advantages and disadvantages as in any government. I do not mind Dalai Lama being firm, but I can understand the thousands of monks who practiced were put into a dilemma.

    Here His Holiness makes speech to make sure all Shugden (Dhogyal) monks are expelled from the monastery. The monks in charge have to agree or anger the Dalai Lama:

    I agree with Shugden being expelled but I don’t agree with monks being expelled. In the Western countries this type of action by Dalai Lama does not look good on him, but as I said, this is the way it is done in our society.

  29. It is indeed sad to see this. Why is that we practice in the first place, if we can’t even live in harmonious with others. Why we bother to pray for All sentient beings afterall? Why learn Buddhism if we can’t even control our harmful action towards others? Shouldn’t all of us praying for peace? Why H.H. Dalai Lama didn’t want to settle this problem. Guru Padmasambhava came to subdued spirits to unite the country, perhaps H.H. Dali Lama should do the same not? Rather than creating chaos, why should we segregate? Even if Buddha is here, I believe Buddha will surely welcome them and give them Dharma? Even those scholars in Buddhism will debate with others (non Buddhists) in order to turn their mind to Dharma.

  30. Singapore is extremely sensitive to offending China because of its trade relations and will not be seen in taking side with the Dalai Lama. Many years ago when one organising group wanted to invite the Dalai Lama to Singapore who was on a teaching tour to Australia, the Singapore government did not approve the Dalai Lama touching down on the soil of Singapore. Ever since many such applications were turned down. It clearly demonstrates where the government of Singapore stands and yet her citizen ‘Lama Namdrol’ and his centre as well as Amitabha Buddhist Centre, Singapore openingly chose not to support its own government and instead act against it. Instead of acting in the interests of all Singaporeans, such organizations have allowed themselves to fall suspect to foreign influences whose interests are not for the welfare of Singaporean society. If the discrimination goes uncheck, it can incite religious harmony and destablize Singapore. This need to be highlighted to Singapore Government and be addressed.

  31. Singapore is a multi ethnic country and has relied on the harmony of its various groups of their population to be in harmony to sustain its economy and grow. All this signs pasted up and discrimination by these buddhist centres is highly unbuddhist.

    Buddha Shakyamuni in his many years of teaching showed extraordinary compassion even to though who are his ‘enemies’, so what these Singapore centres is doing is not harmonious and no where near Buddhist philosophy.

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. ~ We will not be silenced, as this is not fair, just, unbuddhist, it does not look good for Singapore.

  32. May I know whether this 11th Panchen Lama that the Dalai Lama do not recognise or accept is the same as the one chosen by the China government and not the one originally identified by HHDL that was imprisoned and “disappeared”? Is it because of this reason that the Dalai Lama don’t recognise the China appointed Panchen Lama?

  33. This Felix Lee person has always been praising and in some way brainwashing people saying that whatever that the Dalai Lama say is correct and we should never go against what is being said by the Dalai Lama.

    From what I know, Felix Lee claims that he is ordained and he is a reincarnation of someone that well known. But, I have not heard about him before. His followers are very strong headed as well.

    I heard from one of my friends in Singapore that she actually approached the centre and ask about the notice that is found outside of the temple as she does not know what is going on. Instead of getting a proper explanation of the situation, she was being brushed off and said that she does not have to know too much. She only has to know that Dorje Shugden practices are bad, and w should always follow what the Dalai Lama says. Anything else that is going against, would be wrong and she would go to hell. After hearing the explanation from Felix Lee’s explanation, she was even more confused with the situation and did not understand why are there differences in Buddhism like this.

  34. Religious harmony and freedom has always been a right in Malaysia as well as in Singapore which was once part of Malaysia. Anyone may attend any religious events of their choosing without limitations they are free to express themselves in their own religious faith. For whatever reasons it may be, let each practitioner practice in peace.Outer peace brings inner peace and vice versa. Let the Dorje Shugden practitioners practice in peace.

  35. The act of openly displaying the Dorje Shungden’s ban by restricting religious freedom and also discriminating the Shungden’s practitioners is an oppression.Everyone has the right to choose what to believe in and it doesn’t mean that by not following HH Dalai Lama’s advise is considered breaking samaya.His Holiness Dalai Lama called Shungden’s practitioners as “Demon-worship” and caused so much tension for the Shungden’s practitioners who only wanted to practice the Buddha’s teaching..His Holiness should bring peace and also unite everyone instead of segregating his people.Despite of our differences in religion n beliefs,each and everyone should be respected.

  36. Giving and sharing dharma is akin to giving food to the poor and destitute for dharma is food for the mind. When we give to the needy we do not discriminate if they are white, yellow, brown, black or rainbow colored. We give because they are in need. Same goes for dharma. Why discriminate? Just because one man, the dalai lama, said so? Is this practicing dharma? Compassion? I wonder why the Singapore government is allowing this discriminatory and judgmental so called ‘dharma’ center with its so called ‘dharma teacher’ to post such notices up for the public to see? I guess these so called ‘dharma teachers’ and their so called ‘dharma students and practitioners’ do not understand their dedication of their merit “to all sentient beings.”

  37. Much have been said about this issue which; if we look at from another perspective, will make us look rather silly and ridiculous. If we were to go to an

    Indian restaurant and our main staple food is Roti Pratha and our favourite curry to go with is simply Dhall (lentils curry) it’s fine. But suddenly one day, the

    President of Association of Indian Restaurants (AoIR) declared, all shops must stop serving the side dish Dhall curries, because he suddenly developed an

    allergy to it, and all customers with a liking for the Dhall curry is banned from coming to all Indian restaurants under the umbrella of the Head of (AoIR). Just

    because the President decided his favourite curry to go with Roti Canai is Chicken Cury, Fish Curry and Mutton Curry is the only side dishes to be made

    Anyone who professes a liking for Dhall curry will be banned from entering the restaurant under (AoIR). Persecuted and shunned upon. Restaurant owners

    who for 7 generations continues to cook dhall curry will be kicked out from (AoIR) together whose customers whose profess a liking for this side dishes

    and will not received any protection, activities, events organised from the (AoIR). Even though many of these restaurant owners have been cooking this

    side dishes for 7 generations and a master of that; and the Indians for generations practically grew up eating this side dish their entire lives (including the

    President of AoIR who have been eating Dhall curry for many years). Though both professed to eat the same main staple food, Roti Pratha.

    Now lets turn this around and put Lama Tsongkhapa as our main staple Roti Pratha. With the different dharma protectors as the side dishes. Don’t we as

    Buddhist practitioners look rather silly over all these nonsensical fights? So what if the President decides his side dishes is Nechung or Palden Lhamo..etc. What could outsiders even think of us looking as “Practitioners” of the Buddhist

    faith? This only will cause more confusion, resentment and loads of bad energy for both sides eating the same staple food. Everyone should have a
    free choice of their own gravy to go with it.

    “Fighting” happens because of Ignorance of “practitioners” who blindly follows. It’s fine, to follow blindly if they “must” because of Guru Devotion. But follow with

    compassion for others too, without creating suffering for others and bad karma for oneself.

    When we take a step back and see the whole picture and question our inner self and our actions and repercussions to others; we could stop creating animosity towards each other now. Shugden or Anti-Shugden.

  38. I just could not imagine there is such discrimination in Singapore, a democratic and multi-racial country. Singapore is a country that is harmony and the people are respecting each other regardless of race or religions. Putting signboard like this is really not inline with Singapore’s policies.

    In addition, this discrimination and segregation is happened in a Buddhist temple. Buddha always taught us to be compassion and love all beings. How could a Buddhist temple that suppose to teach Buddhism but not practicing the core values of Buddhism, ie compassion???!!!

  39. I can’t believe that in these days and age, in Singapore, away from CTA’s influence, religious persecution still exists. Amithaba Buddhist Center and Thekchen Choling have both blantantly violated their country’s regulation and spread disharmony among Buddhist community in Singapore. I hope the government will take notice and launch further investigation on these two centers.

    Not only these two centers are trying to persecute Shugden practitioners, but also they go against their own government policies and act as arms and legs of foreign influence – CTA.

    Singapore government is known to be very strict in upholding their own regulation, I hope they are not being selective to Amithaba Buddhist Center and Thekchen Choling.

  40. It is quite shocking to see such signs which discriminate. I think the monasteries/temples just want to be politically correct and to be on the “good” side, and they didn’t really think too much from the point of view of the government.

    As a Singaporean, I don’t think the government will do anything about it, which is quite sad, because it is clear discrimination. The government have strong ties with both China and USA, and the government won’t want to offend anyone, so they will just close one eye..

  41. Do not mix politics with religion. The Dharma centres only have their own agenda which is to be on the good books of the Dalai Lama. Maybe by doing so, they are actually benefitting form the Dalai Lama’s camp? Whatever it is , it should not happen in a democratic country where the people is free to choose what they want to practice and not be discriminated against. Let’s hope the government will do something about it.

  42. CB Jon, the point is really simple i.e. whether a citizen of a country should obey the instructions of the Dalai Lama instead of the laws of its own country? Should Catholics listen to the Pope instead of the laws of their own countries? Should the Muslim people obey the call for a fatwa if a Islamic religious leader calls for one?

    On what basis is the Dalai Lama’s call to discriminate more important than Singapore’s law to avoid all forms of discrimination?

  43. Seems like Lama Namdrol is committing some sort of seditious act, where the actions, whether intentional or not, is going against that of the government’s favour.

    A lay lama, who is supposed to spread the Buddhist doctrine far and wide, but sadly discriminates those who are wanting to learn. In such a modern society that we live in, it is unbelievable that an advanced and developed country such as Singapore would allow such discrimination. Why does the Dalai Lama’s “advice” overrule so many other leader’s advice and call to religious freedom, and on what basis does it override the law of a country?

  44. Since Thekchen Choling is a temple in Singapore – a country support Beijing government and needs Beijing to be her partner in economy and politics; the temple should not acts on something is against Singapore government & citizen’s interest. As a small country & a country depends heavily on others players in the world, Singapore has to remain neutral in many international affairs. If we are not helping, at least not to do harm…

    Furthermore, the act of Thekchen Choling to against religious freedom. When free thinkers, Taoists, Christians or others can enter a Buddhist temple, but a Buddhist who pray to certain Protector CANNOT? This would become a laughing stock for many to Singaporean, Singapore and Buddhists!

    Whether you are a Buddhist, Christian or Taoist or free thinker, it doesn’t matter, but be a person with open mind and open heart. With these, we would do less ridiculous decisions/acts; or act bias towards many.

    I wish management of Thekchen Choling remove the sign board to forbid Shugden people or ANY other people come from different faith to enter the temple…because to have people need to seek solace from Three Jewels, it would be something very bad to do…

    Thank you.

  45. It is imperative to not mix government social laws and religious sanctions. The laws of Singapore is for governance in order to maintain a country and its well-being for her citizens and growth. No one wants a country to go backwards, non-progressive, discriminate, poor economic growth, regression, corruption, war, social unrest, etc etc etc…

    The signage of Thekchen Choling and its discrimination against Shugden practitioners is not reflective of Singapore and its government. It is reflective of its spiritual belief and spiritual “laws”. Technically it does not affect the Singaporean government but what it does reflect is that somewhere in the cracks of the system there is “permission” that organizations can make such statements which in a nut shell tells people we can do as we wish to create segregation and discrimination.

    Now, I ask this (look at it objectively), Muslims are not allowed to eat pork and we all know this. Why not on restaurants which serve pork state this “Muslims not allowed” and on the menu, “You can only look at this menu if you do not practise Islam.” BUT, respectfully it is just written, “Pork served here.” or in some places, “Non-halal”.

    Thus, why can’t this same respect and sensitivity be extended to Shugden practitioners. Yes, you do not practise, we respect that but do you need to be so barbaric and uncultured? Is that what CTA writes in some guidebook? Is this what the Dalai Lama teaches – intolerance, condemnation, put down, degrade? I don’t think so right… therefore perhaps these centres should first get some practice on humanity before sitting on some throne to teach the Buddha’s Wisdom teachings!

    Again, I make clear… this is nothing to do with Singapore government. But the manner of discrimination permitted is just not good. These centres should not per permitted to behave like this and the CTA and Dalai Lama have NO governance in Singapore, thus centres registered in Singapore do not need to comply with the laws of CTA which is a government in exile anyways…

  46. Those anti-Shugden centres in Singapore , like Theckchen Choling, Amitabha Buddhist Centre, etc, operate with the approval of the government of Singapore. At the same time, the government of Singapore is engaged in commercial activities with China (which is governed by the Communist Party of China) . Since the government of Singapore is purely secular in nature, there is obviously no problem there. However, it seems the writer (Wong Kim Seng) is trying hard to connect the practice of Dorje Shugden with China, as if a practitioner of Dorje Shugden must be a supporter of China and, as a consequence, a supporter of the Communist Party of China. All that in turn, is supposed to mean that anti-Shugden centres in Singapore must therefore be against the policies of the government of Singapore. I object to this line of thinking, which to be is totally unacceptable . By the way, I practice Dorje Shugden.

  47. I practice Dorje Shugden and I am NOT a supporter of the Communist Party of China. Is that a problem ?

  48. (1)

    On one hand, I have a very poor command of Mandarin and since I do NOT engage in politics, I am not a supporter of the Communist Party of China. On the other hand, I pray to Dorje Shugden. Is that a problem ?

    (2) I found this recently while searching the Internet :

    A response to the article from “TK” on the forum
    This forum post has been extracted from this forum thread:

    Dear everyone,

    This extracted article above is very powerful. I will share my thoughts and comments on the article above. It is what I have believed also for the last decade and a half. It concurs with the prophesy from Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche in the late 70′s which is that, in the future, it may look like the Dalai Lama is at odds with Dorje Shugden, but in actuality they are helping each other to make the Buddha Dharma grow in the world.

    1. Dorje Shugden acts in the Bodhisattva manner accepting criticism, hate campaigns and the ‘destruction’ of his practice. He does this because it serves a bigger purpose for the overall survival of Buddhism in the world for the future. Why? It is easier to resurrect or perform a “Lazarus” on Dorje Shugden in the future when the smoke clears, than it would be for the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama is a man and controlled by media, opinions, people, circumstances and etc. But Dorje Shugden is a formless entity that can “rise” above all of that very quickly when the time is right.

    2. Whenever Dorje Shugden takes trance in any of the oracles, he never criticizes the Dalai Lama. In fact, he is known for telling the audience to always withhold criticism towards Dalai Lama. He does not have to say this; he could say nothing about the Dalai Lama and just keep quiet. Dorje Shugden is well known for not answering questions that have little meaning, or that are insignificant or unacceptable to the listener. When questions are presented to him through the oracle, he often bypasses questions which should not be answered at that time or which have no meaning.

    3. With all the destruction happening against him, he never comments, speaks against nor gives advice towards undharmic actions. This is because the situation can all be fully reversed in a short time when the time is right.

    4. Temporarily, Dorje Shugden will accept the claim that he is the cause for the loss of Tibet, or the cause for why Tibetan cannot be regained… but in the end truth will arise. Dorje Shugden will reveal the true “plot” which Trijang Rinpoche had already hinted at in the late 1970′s. (I fold my hands to Trijang Rinpoche and prostrate my full body to Him. I offer my head as a stepping block for his feet. I truly have confidence in this great being.)

    5. Dorje Shugden is strong enough to carry such a burden. Dorje Shugden practitioners are resilient enough to not abandon his practice during this crisis. Both Dorje Shugden and his true followers will not abandon each other no matter what is said and done temporarily at this time. Both can carry the burden. I personally do not dislike or hate the Dalai Lama but have confidence in him and my own sacred Protector Dorje Shugden. I choose to believe and take refuge in Trijang Rinpoche’s prophecy. The other two options of hating Dalai Lama and /or abandoning Dorje Shugden are not open to me, nor would I choose any of the two options.

    6. Why would Dalai Lama act, talk and promote so many contradictory actions that makes himself look unstable? …. Unless it is all being done on purpose. I believe that truly. He is not stupid.

    7. If Kache Marpo (Dorje Shugden’s main attendant) has ‘destroyed’ Lamas, people and practitioners in the past for breaking samaya or polluting the Yellow Hat teachings (Gelugpa), then why are Samdhong Rinpoche, the Kashag, Kalons, Ministers, Kunga Tara, and even the Dalai Lama himself spared? … Unless there is a much bigger soup brewing.

    8. Nechung is the one who requested Duldzin Dragpa Gyeltsen to arise as a uncommon Protector to protect Nagarjuna’s view, as embodied within Lama Tsongkapa’s lineage, 350 years ago. Why would the same Nechung be speaking the opposite now when he talks and advises against Dorje Shugden?… Unless there was a larger plan between Dorje Shugden, Dalai Lama and Nechung. Seems like a hopeful fantasy? Well, to many more, the idea of a Dharma Protector or Dorje Shugden itself is a fantasy made up by the Tibetan Lamas. So which do we choose to believe?

    9.If Dorje Shugden is so powerful (which he is), why doesn’t he do something to stop all this? Perhaps it is because it is not time to ‘stop’ all this yet. In fact, Dorje Shugden is putting his followers through ‘hell and back’ (excuse me) and we have to just take it. Yes we will ‘take’ it. There has to be a much bigger game plan. Dorje Shugden takes the blame and Dalai Lama works hard to make the Buddha Dharma grow while all of the next generation of elite Lamas and teachers are still young.

    Those who take refuge in the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden will not give up on both. They are strongholds for the growth of Buddhadharma and the ‘re-arisal’ of Dorje Shugden in the near future. If the Dalai Lama is so powerful (which he is), why doesn’t he just do a binding ritual or fire puja himself and rid the planet/samsara of this horrible demented being called Jamgon Gyelway Tensung Gyelpo Dorje Shugden? And then stop spending so much time, money, heartaches, energy, resources to keep going against Dorje Shugden?! Just get rid of him once and for all. The end. Why not?

    The Dalai Lama hasn’t done this because he cannot destroy a being who has actualized the complete path of Guhyasamaja in both completion and generation stages – in other words a being who is a Buddha. The Dalai Lama cannot destroy Buddha Dorje Shugden who is one with Guhyasamaja and whose 32 deities in his mandala are the same as the 32 deities in Guhyasamaja’s entourage.

    So for the bigger purpose, the Dalai Lama has to put the blame of all the ills of Tibet’s misfortune onto Dorje Shugden who is strong enough to shoulder this. Dorje Shugden plays the bad guy for now. If the blame was placed on the Dalai Lama, it would spoil his reputation. This would limit him from spreading the Dharma on a global scale, which is what he is doing now. He is planting seeds of Dharma on a global scale so that they will ripen for the young Lamas as well as Dorje Shugden to take over later.

    The ills of Tibet are not the Dalai Lama’s nor Dorje Shugden’s fault, but the Tibetan people’s own fault. However, for most of the world, karma is not accepted, so the blame would go to the leader of the people – which is the Dalai Lama. We cannot afford this at a time when no one else can spread Buddhism the way the Dalai Lama can.

    Think through this carefully to come to terms with the pain in your heart. I do not blame you for the pain. You are not at fault. You are part of a bigger plan. I’ve had many pains in my heart that I have come to terms with and am some still working on because of this issue. We are all part of a bigger plan. This sounds clichéd, but it is true. It is easier to get through the storm with this way of thinking.

    10. If the Dalai Lama loses his reputation because he is the ’cause’ for the loss of Tibet, then it would stain his reputation greatly and that would hinder his promotion of the BuddhaDharma around the world, to say the least. No other Lama of any tradition can match the skills, persona, knowledge, title and charisma of the Dalai Lama to spread Buddhism so far and wide around the world.

    11. Why can’t the Tibetan Government and various Monasteries destroy Dorje Shugden through binding rituals? Because they have tried to and not been successful – Dorje Shugden has not been destroyed. This shows the power of Dorje Shugden purposely. People will keep this power in mind, remember it when they re-adopt Dorje Shugden’s practice later. This leaves a mark in people’s minds that Dorje Shugden cannot be defeated nor destroyed.

    12. The Dalai Lama has given the incarnation of his teacher, Trijang Rinpoche, the special exception to practice Dorje Shugden. Why is Trijang Rinpoche allowed to practice Dorje Shugden if it harms the cause of Tibet and brings danger to the Dalai Lama’s life? Because it leaves a mark for the future, to make the point that Dorje Shugden does not hinder the cause of Tibet nor the Dalai Lama. These are small traces of hints left by the Dalai Lama for the survival of Dorje Shugden. Someone has to take the blame. That is samsara.

    13. Why does Dorje Shugden himself sit on the fence?’ He says on one hand to respect and follow what the Dalai Lama says, but on the other hand, he told the Shar Gaden monks (who are ardent Dorje Shugden practitioners) that if their motivation for opening Shar Gaden was for the growth and preservation of the lineage, then it would be auspicious in the future. Doesn’t that look contradictory? C’mon, which one is it, Dorje Shugden? Clear it for us. If we were to follow what the Dalai Lama says, why open Shar Gaden and Serpom Monastery? If we were to follow what Dorje Shugden says, then why even be on this forum as he tells us to always respect the Dalai Lama?

    Should we open Shar Gaden which ‘opposes’ the Dalai Lama or should we listen to the Dalai Lama and abandon Dorje Shugden’s practice? Even the great Dorje Shugden sounds contradictory.

    Why does Dorje Shugden continuously take trance and give advice even to those who do not give their allegiance to the Dalai Lama while practicing Dorje Shugden? Doesn’t that damage the samaya of the individual with Dorje Shugden or with the Lama who initiated him into Dorje Shugden’s practice? Whichever way you look at it, you damage the samaya with either your guru or Protector.

    The previous Zong Rinpoche, Dagom Rinpoche, Yongyal Rinpoche, Geshe Tendar, the current incarnations of Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche and Pabongka Rinpoche, Gonsar Rinpoche, the oracle monks, Gangchen Rinpoche, Lama Yeshe, Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, etc. all took teachings from the 14th Dalai Lama, at one time or another. Let’s not forget that. If we have taken teachings from any of these Lamas, then 14th Dalai Lama is also our lineage Lama who we must respect. Isn’t this logical?

    Since we say that the Dalai Lama must respect our lineage Lamas such as Pabongka, then we must also reverse the situation and respect the Dalai Lama as our lineage Lama. Either way, the system is set up for you to ‘lose’. If that is the case, there must be a MUCH BIGGER PICTURE so that current infractions with our lineage Lamas can be repaired later FOR THIS BIGGER PICTURE.

    After all, with or without the current issue of Dalai Lama / Dorje Shugden, we were doing a great job collecting negative karma, breaking commitments, and generally creating the causes for our personal samsaras to remain in tact and strong on our own. Neither the Dalai Lama nor Dorje Shugden are to blame. Nor are they adding to it. We were in samsara before the Dalai Lama’s name and Shugden even ‘existed’ as we know them today.

    Yes the Dalai Lama does look like he always contradicts himself. But so does Dorje Shugden. Again, this leads me to believe that they are cooking up something much bigger… or it is something that’s nearly cooked.

    Yes, it is nearly cooked.

    It is best to have respect for the Dalai Lama and keep up our practices towards Dorje Shugden steadily. Whatever the case, whether we go to the Dalai Lama’s ‘camp’ or we go to Dorje Shugden’s ‘camp’, we go against our lineage Lamas. So it is best to maintain equilibrium by thinking things out logically, following the law of cause and effect, and engaging in our practices to develop attainments within our continuum. With the great attainment, we win freedom totally. Then (without meaning any disrespect), we won’t need the Dalai Lama, Buddha, Dorje Shugden or anyone else. Actually, that is their original intention.

    I have stated my thoughts at this time and I sincerely hope this will bring peace/understanding to the many practitioners that visit this great website. I do not wish to offend anyone with my thoughts, or to be right. It is just my attempt to think and reason things out at this time when not many other options are available. Again, I will never give up my Dorje Shugden commitments nor my commitment to the Lamas who gave me the practices. Nor will I demean and hate His Holiness the Dalai Lama. I will not hate those against Dorje Shugden, but forgive them.

    Much success to all,

    The original forum post can be viewed at:

  49. In this pure realm, surrounded by snow moutains,
    Is the source of complete happiness and benefit,.
    Avalokiteshvara, Tenzin Gyatso.
    May you stand firm until the end of existence.

    May you live thousands of years for Buddha Dharma and for all sentient beings ! May all your wishes come true for better world and peace on earth ! Remeber, 99 % Tibetan people are still following you and standing by you ! You are sunshine in this universe !! We love you till the end !

  50. When Thekchen Choling (Singapore) started publicly display the message of the unsubstantiated accusation of DS practice as worshipping evil spirit, it is totally an unjustified discrimination to DS followers & create disharmony among the many Tibetan Buddhism practitioners in the country. Furthermore, this kind of message also contradict the purpose of a place of worship which is to serve as a space for visitors & those who came to seek solace irrespective what their beliefs or races.

    Therefore, as a respectable spiritual organisation like Thekchen Choling (Singapore), one should give full co-operation to the law of the country that promote religious freedom by refraining from actions that will otherwise jeopardize the peace & harmony of the society. At the same time & being a strong devotees to the Dalai Lama, the guru & disciples relationship are still intact when the students follow their guru’s advise and instruction by not participate nor worship the Protector Deity Dorje Shugden. Such practice of guru devotion is to be kept within that special bond & commitment between the students & the guru only. Like any other religion or spiritual practices, it has no connection nor any influence from what others beliefs & practices. Everyone has the right & freedom to practice what he or she wants to peacefully & harmoniously.

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.…Instead of turning away people who practise Dorje Shugden, we should be kind to them. Give them logic and wisdom without fear, then in time they give up the ‘wrong’ practice. Actually Shugden practitioners are not doing anything wrong. But hypothetically, if they are, wouldn’t it be more Buddhistic to be accepting? So those who have views against Dorje Shugden should contemplate this. Those practicing Dorje Shugden should forbear with extreme patience, fortitude and keep your commitments. The time will come as predicted that Dorje Shugden’s practice and it’s terrific quick benefits will be embraced by the world and it will be a practice of many beings.

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