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Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« on: August 09, 2018, 10:49:27 PM »
Check out this new post that just came up by Ashok Rao. It's quite amazing what the Dalai Lama said. See the video and read the comments. What the Dalai Lama said really shocked everyone! What is he trying to do, why is he making Indians angry? Is this on purpose? Does he have a death wish? WHY Dalai Lama?


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Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
By Ashok Rao


In 1959, India generously and graciously opened their arms to the Dalai Lama and his Tibetan refugees as they fled China-occupied Tibet, now commonly known as the Tibet Autonomous Region of China. In India, the Dalai Lama was given the highest honor, respect and privilege as befitting the Indian customs of venerating high spiritual personages. The Indian leader at the time was Prime Minister Jawarhalal Nehru and it was his extremely kind leadership that allowed the displaced Tibetans in-exile a country to settle in.

Recently however, the Dalai Lama has begun forays into Indian politics by making outlandish comments regarding the very same Prime Minister Nehru that gave him and his people safe refuge. Not only that, his comments broached a highly sensitive subject, that of the Partition of British India into the two nation states of India and Pakistan that we know today. Awakening painful and bloody memories, his comments have angered the sentiments of Indians around the world, as the repercussions of Partition remain unresolved up until the present day and strained relations between India and Pakistan endure.

The Dalai Lama surprisingly blamed Prime Minister Nehru for the split between the two countries during which untold millions suffered so much loss in terms of life, identity and property. It is something that has deeply damaged the psyche of the two nation states who have yet to mend their relations. It is shocking that the Dalai Lama would broach the subject almost insensitively. He basically claims that if not for Jawarhalal Nehru, who became Prime Minster against Mahatma Gandhi’s will, Pakistan would have remained a part of India. The Dalai Lama claims that Mahatma Gandhi wanted Muhammad Ali Jinnah to become Prime Minister instead. But if Jinnah, being a staunch Muslim, had become Prime Minister instead of Nehru, he most probably would not have entertained the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans at that time. The Dalai Lama should consider himself lucky that Nehru became Prime Minister.

Watch the video clip & read more here >>> http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dalai-lama-blames-nehru-for-india-pakistan-partition/


 

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Re: Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 12:19:59 AM »
Wow, it feels like the Dalai Lama really intents to go back to China, and he is hoping that Prime Minister Narendra Modi will do just that for him. Basically hoping Narendra Modi will ask China to take back their highest profile dissident. Although India's think tanks and strategic advisors, may be aware of such a ruse, but public opinion of Indians towards the Dalai Lama now, can change things so that Indian government has no choice but to deport the Dalai Lama perhaps even the entire Tibetan exile community back to China?

Remember the Dalai Lama has meaningful dialogues with the smartest folks on this planet, making such an obvious error of criticizing the host nation, that is hosting him and his people, is uncharacteristic and reeks of hidden motive.

My glasses almost fell off reading this article, good thing monks are not really into wars.




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Re: Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 04:28:43 AM »
Why did the Dalai Lama talked about this historical fact that is really meaningless now? Why did he said such a thing at such sensitive time when India is trying to mend their relationship with China while he and the Tibetan refugees remain a torn in the relationship. He has a lot of wisdom and he is intelligent. I don't believe he made such comment simply for fun. There must be a reason and most likely political to pave his way back to China. He had to say bad things about India to make China happy. It is a 180 degrees turned around from anti China to anti India stand and now the Indians are very unhappy with him.

Since this morning, many India papers have started to counter Dalai Lama, such as https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/cong-cites-history-to-counter-dalais-claim/635135.html. The BJP’s senior leader Subramanian Swamy was among the first leaders who reacted on his remarks. Subramanian Swamy said that the Dalai Lama should have spoken about this before and it did not hold much value now.

He added, “These are historical issues and hold value for historical debates. Yes, it is true that Mahatma Gandhi wanted Jinnah to be the Prime Minister as he would have been a minority Prime Minister and he could be removed once the British were gone. But it is also true that Jawaharlal Nehru only thought about himself. Gandhi was only thinking of how the British could be removed. But these are now academic questions and hardly make sense to discuss now.”

Source https://www.nedrickexpress.com/dalai-lama-stirs-a-controversy-calls-pm-nehru-self-centered/

It would be really interesting how this who issue is finally solved.

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Re: Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2018, 05:45:31 AM »
Wow, it feels like the Dalai Lama really intents to go back to China, and he is hoping that Prime Minister Narendra Modi will do just that for him. Basically hoping Narendra Modi will ask China to take back their highest profile dissident. Although India's think tanks and strategic advisors, may be aware of such a ruse, but public opinion of Indians towards the Dalai Lama now, can change things so that Indian government has no choice but to deport the Dalai Lama perhaps even the entire Tibetan exile community back to China?

Remember the Dalai Lama has meaningful dialogues with the smartest folks on this planet, making such an obvious error of criticizing the host nation, that is hosting him and his people, is uncharacteristic and reeks of hidden motive.

My glasses almost fell off reading this article, good thing monks are not really into wars.

Ya exactly my thoughts! I cannot believe what the Dalai Lama said... it is just as shocking to us Shugdenpa Buddhists as it is to the Indians in India which are very very unhappy with his insensitive statement. No matter what, you do not go around talking about your host country in this way. What more you are saying their enemy (Pakistan) is better than them?! It as if the Dalai Lama has a death wish. It's just suicidal and he should be extra careful now. Many will no doubt target him and you know, it's probably a good idea PM Modi sends him back to Tibet, China. And better do that FAST. I'm worried for his life. He sure pissed A LOT of people off this time!

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Re: Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2018, 08:38:08 AM »
Can someone explain to me what the Dalai Lama is doing? I mean ok his CTA is really not fun to work with but this is really like saying, we, the Tibetans and CTA, we all had enough of India now and we want to go to Tibet again.  ??? :-X

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Re: Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2018, 04:24:04 AM »
I cannot believe the Dalai Lama accused Nehru of the split between Pakistan and India. This is a very sensitive issue he shouldn’t have talked about it at all. Nehru was the one who welcomed the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans, and now he is backstabbing Nehru.

Nehru was very kind to give the Tibetans lands for them to set up their homes, their monasteries, hospitals, schools, shops, etc. Otherwise, where could these Tibetans go at that time? Even if he really has some comments or opinions on this issue, he should just keep quiet and only talk about spiritual practice. Many Indians already don’t like the Dalai Lama, why did he have to make things worse?

And in his speech, he called for peace between Muslim sects, did he forget about the many conflicts in the Tibetan community? The Dorje Shugden ban, the Karmapa, the Rangzen and the Middle Way approach, to name a few. While the Dalai Lama is acting like a peacemaker, he should be addressing the problems in his own community. The Dorje Shugden ban was imposed 20 years ago and many have suffered, the ban has to be lifted soon.

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2018, 04:41:19 AM »
I cannot believe the Dalai Lama accused Nehru of the split between Pakistan and India. This is a very sensitive issue he shouldn’t have talked about it at all. Nehru was the one who welcomed the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans, and now he is backstabbing Nehru.

Nehru was very kind to give the Tibetans lands for them to set up their homes, their monasteries, hospitals, schools, shops, etc. Otherwise, where could these Tibetans go at that time? Even if he really has some comments or opinions on this issue, he should just keep quiet and only talk about spiritual practice. Many Indians already don’t like the Dalai Lama, why did he have to make things worse?

And in his speech, he called for peace between Muslim sects, did he forget about the many conflicts in the Tibetan community? The Dorje Shugden ban, the Karmapa, the Rangzen and the Middle Way approach, to name a few. While the Dalai Lama is acting like a peacemaker, he should be addressing the problems in his own community. The Dorje Shugden ban was imposed 20 years ago and many have suffered, the ban has to be lifted soon.

Very true what you said... so why do you think Dalai Lama is doing all this and creating havoc for? What could be the reason for all this commotion? He did apologise but the damage is already done and there are many Indians who, like you said really dislike him and with this, they dislike him even more and wants to kick him out. So why is he further damaging his reputation?

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 04:24:26 AM »
My Indian friends told me this comment is served as the downfall of the relationship between the Indian government and the Dalai Lama. They were already unhappy when the Dalai Lama sent Prof. Samdhong Rinpoche to China end of last year secretly. The Indian government decided to cancel the useless CTA Thank You event in India and forced it to be downsized to a local street celebration level. The Indian government also sold the insider information about the Dalai Lama's health to China to teach the Dalai Lama and CTA a lesson. This will continue as the Indian government would make sure the Dalai Lama and CTA create no more problems in their relationship building with China, while continue to use the Dalai Lama and Tibet card as and when they wish. The last thing the Dalai Lama and CTA want is to get on the Indian's nerves.

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Re: Dalai Lama blames Nehru for India-Pakistan Partition
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2018, 02:16:01 AM »
It is really no wonder that the Indians are fed up with the Tibetans. The Tibetans don't care a single bit about the Indians. They have received and still receive so much money but they don't have any gratitude towards India.

The Dalai Lama speaking about the India-Pakistan partition even blaming Nehru is wrong. Only criticising India but what do the Tibetans do themselves? How do they lessen the burden of India? 

I hope that India will not let the Tibetans make a fool of them. India has cared so much for the Tibetans but the Tibetans seem to forget fast!

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2018, 02:28:01 PM »
Now that Nehru is not around anymore and the Dalai Lama made such a statement on him. It seems rather ungrateful, I thought they were very good friends? If Nehru was still around, he would be so regretful that he welcomed the Dalai Lama and his people with open arms.

When the Dalai Lama and many Tibetans left Tibet, India was very kind to accept them. They were given lands in different parts of India to build their community. They were even allowed to have their ‘government’. Apart from not having a passport to travel around the world, the Tibetans in India can move around freely, unlike the refugees in other countries, their movements are very restricted.

Maybe the Tibetans are just too comfortable and forgot about how India has helped them. They have not shown much gratitude to India and the Indians, all they have done is organising some cheap thank you events. The least the Tibetans can do is to stop condemning China so they can help to strengthen the relationship between China and India.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2018, 03:55:40 PM »
Dear Tracy,

You forgot to mentioned that the Dalai Lama did apologize for his Nehru comment. Although what the Dalai Lama said about Nehru is not justified and seems ungrateful, we need to give credit that he did apologize.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/i-apologise-dalai-lama-after-remark-on-jawaharlal-nehru-5300851/


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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2018, 07:04:19 PM »
Dear Tracy,

You forgot to mentioned that the Dalai Lama did apologize for his Nehru comment. Although what the Dalai Lama said about Nehru is not justified and seems ungrateful, we need to give credit that he did apologize.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/i-apologise-dalai-lama-after-remark-on-jawaharlal-nehru-5300851/



I believe in His Holiness the Dalai Lama's wisdom. It cannot be that he just mindlessly criticizes Nehru. I am sure this is part of His Holiness' political strategy.

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2018, 09:04:39 AM »
This is very ungrateful for His Holiness so say such a thing. I thought Buddhism is a religion of kindness, compassion and being grateful? Is this how His Holiness repay Pandit Nehru’s kindness? This is just mind-blowing for a man who taught others on how to be kind, grateful to criticise someone who had opened his heart unconditionally for him and all Tibetans.

Tibetans are never to be shown kindness because they will be able to understand how to repay the kindness. India should not have wasted 60years of time, land, energy, resources and protection on them. India should make them leave now.