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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2012, 02:45:37 PM »
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We in the west should take heed from them and also do the same here. Then it will benefit lots more people. So that it will become a world phenomenon. Don't you all think so? One brochure being distributed means one life is being saved. We can do more.

This is indeed very true Galen... It also reminds me of this quote:

"For evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing!"

If we all did our part however "little" we think it is, fret not as all these little parts will add up to a larger picture and that is the ultimate goal we are after. The BIG picture! After all, as long as we do our best and push ourselves to this inevitable goal, the ban WILL be lifted and Our King, The Protector of Our Time will claim his rightful place in helping us achieve our maximum spiritual goals.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2012, 03:29:48 PM »


Yes a friend downloaded that youtube video of HHDL at Kalachakra and showed me too. HHDL specifically mentioned it is growing in those countries especially Singapore . Hopefully the people at ABC will be educated by the DS comic books. Singaporeans are intellectual and advanced people. Those who know who DS truly is will flock to the practice. So the ignorant ones needs to be educated.



I am most excited about this news of DORJE SHUGDEN in Singapore especially in Amitabha Buddhist Centre which is affiliated to FPMT.  It is WONDERFUL that Singaporeans have good karma with Dorje Shugden as they readily accepted the protector.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama is abreast of news when He mentioned that the Dorje Shugden practice is growing in the west and in Taiwan, Singapore and China.  How true it is.  HHDL said this during the recent Kalachakra event in Inda.  This really amazed many people including Tibetans themselves and people who oppose the practice. 

It clearly shows that the fire of Dorje Shugden is ravaging on strongly and swiftly around the globe.  LONG LIVE DORJE SHUGDEN!

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2012, 02:46:10 AM »
It is really a joy to see DS spreading 'ITS Wings' in Singapore blessing the people there. Despite the anti DS move, which looks like has started to loose its 'steam', many are being blessed by DS, thanks to the tireless efforts of the DS Warriors.

For every DS seeds planted, it is creating causes for the DS ban to be lifted. The DS warriors are working very hard towards this mission.

May their effort bear fruits and the lift of the ban come very soon.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2012, 03:18:14 AM »
I congratulate hardworking dharma friends from the far east for spreading DS teaching in Singapore.  I foresee that it will take root in Singapore and spread across to all the South East Asian countries like wild fire as Dorje Shugden is the protector of our time and generation.  Many people will receive Dorje Shugden blessing and Lama Tsongkhapa's teaching will flourish forever more.

This is really so exciting and looking forward to see more Dorje Shugden centres sprouting in this region.  The next time I visit Singapore I hope to visit them.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2012, 04:03:41 AM »
No wonder in the last Dalai Lama teachings in Bodhgaya in January 2012. DL mentioned that DS practice seems to grow in places like some European countries and SINGAPORE. As far as I am aware of, Shugden practioners are not concentrated in that part of ASIA 5 years ago. But since DL can actually mentioned SINGAPORE in his teachings or rather speech, it must be a significant group of Shugden practioners.

I am very happy to know about this.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2012, 03:42:16 PM »
...DL mentioned that DS practice seems to grow in places like some European countries and SINGAPORE. As far as I am aware of, Shugden practioners are not concentrated in that part of ASIA 5 years ago. But since DL can actually mentioned SINGAPORE in his teachings or rather speech, it must be a significant group of Shugden practioners.

I am very happy to know about this.

It is the good old NKT. 8)

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2012, 10:40:47 PM »
But Jamseng Rinpoche and Serkong Tritul's presence is strong there. They have had a centre there for over 12 years now. When you enter their centre they have a large Dorje Shugden thangka in full view.

Jamseng Rinpoche often have large events there. They have done many open and large actitivities there often advertised.

Also Kundeling Rinpoche visits Singapore often and has students there.

His Holiness Gaden Trisur Rinpoche has visited Singapore on a yearly basis many times and held huge events with nearly a thousand attending the teachings, initiations and commentaries.

Dalai Lama is referring to these various lamas and their students.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2012, 11:22:06 PM »
But Jamseng Rinpoche and Serkong Tritul's presence is strong there. They have had a centre there for over 12 years now. When you enter their centre they have a large Dorje Shugden thangka in full view. Jamseng Rinpoche often have large events there. They have done many open and large actitivities there often advertised. Also Kundeling Rinpoche visits Singapore often and has students there. His Holiness Gaden Trisur Rinpoche has visited Singapore on a yearly basis many times and held huge events with nearly a thousand attending the teachings, initiations and commentaries.

Dalai Lama is referring to these various lamas and their students.

Wonderful. :) It is good to know that these Gurus also are openly "shugdenites", and are unashamed in their teaching curriculum.

Dalai Lama probably refferred to them.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2012, 07:32:20 AM »
But Jamseng Rinpoche and Serkong Tritul's presence is strong there. They have had a centre there for over 12 years now. When you enter their centre they have a large Dorje Shugden thangka in full view.

Jamseng Rinpoche often have large events there. They have done many open and large actitivities there often advertised.

Also Kundeling Rinpoche visits Singapore often and has students there.

His Holiness Gaden Trisur Rinpoche has visited Singapore on a yearly basis many times and held huge events with nearly a thousand attending the teachings, initiations and commentaries.

Dalai Lama is referring to these various lamas and their students.


Hi Thaimonk, For your kind information, all dorje shugden thankas were removed from year 2008 onwards due to transition from Gelugpa to Kadhampa lineage. We no longer worship Dorje Shugden due to following the path of the past Kadhampa masters, but we do acknowledged that Dorje shugden is recognized by the Great Gelugpa lineage masters such as like Trijang Rinpoche, Pa Bong kha Rinpoche etc.

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Re: Shugden in Singapore!!
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2012, 10:45:26 AM »
But Jamseng Rinpoche and Serkong Tritul's presence is strong there. They have had a centre there for over 12 years now. When you enter their centre they have a large Dorje Shugden thangka in full view.

Jamseng Rinpoche often have large events there. They have done many open and large actitivities there often advertised.

Also Kundeling Rinpoche visits Singapore often and has students there.

His Holiness Gaden Trisur Rinpoche has visited Singapore on a yearly basis many times and held huge events with nearly a thousand attending the teachings, initiations and commentaries.

Dalai Lama is referring to these various lamas and their students.


Hi Thaimonk, For your kind information, all dorje shugden thankas were removed from year 2008 onwards due to transition from Gelugpa to Kadhampa lineage. We no longer worship Dorje Shugden due to following the path of the past Kadhampa masters, but we do acknowledged that Dorje shugden is recognized by the Great Gelugpa lineage masters such as like Trijang Rinpoche, Pa Bong kha Rinpoche etc.

Dear Lightning,
No offense to you. I have friends who work for Serkong Tritul Rinpoche in Taiwan. These are the same friends who work for building Serkong Monastery in Nepal. They said, Serkong Tritul Rinpoche and Jamseng Rinpoche publicly say they don't practice. But in private they practice.

Serkong Tritul Rinpoche also contact the Dorje Shugden oracle in Taiwan for questions even recently.

Also Serkong Tritul Rinpoche is still sending money and sponsorship to Shar Gaden Monastery.

So openly the thangkas have been removed and publicly they announce they don't practice, but privately Serkong Tritul Rinpoche is very devoted to Shugden. This is for sure due to much pressure.

Same as Kejok Rinpoche who publicly announced he 'gave up' Shugden, but he practices in the privacy of his room in Australia. That is why you never see Kejok Rinpoche, Jamseng Rinpoche or Serkong Tritul Rinpoche ever joining with the Dalai Lama at public events.

Serkong Tritul and Jamseng Rinpoches are good lamas with strong Guru Devotion to their lamas and their lineage. All their practices come from Gelug and Gaden, so their name is Kadampa to disassociate from CTA but their practices are all core Gelug practices. They will not simply abandon the practice of their protector except they recieved alot of pressures from other centres, press and organizations in Taiwan. These lamas have no choice but to go underground for now. You will see later, when the ban is done, they will emerge openly again as practicing.

Geshe Kelsang is also New Kadampa. But just because he is has labelled himself as Kadampa does not mean you cannot practice Shugden or Shugden cannot be included. All Geshe Kelsang's practices are core Gelug practices of which some stem originally from Kadam lineage. Vajra Yogini is from Sakya, Six yogas of Naropa from Kagyu, Thought Transformation teachings (lojong) from Kadampa masters. And etc, etc.  Gelug is the combination of all lineages. Lama Tsongakapa is extra special in this way he extracted the most effective teachings from his 40 teachers of all existent sects during his time and combined it into what we call as Gelug.

I do not mean disrespect to you, but Serkong Tritul Rinpoche and Jamseng Rinpoche are both practicing Shugden privately and sincerely up till now. This is from confirmed sources from close people working for them in Taiwan and Nepal.