Author Topic: Dalai Lama forcing other Sects to publicly accept who pick"s 15th Dalai Lama????  (Read 771 times)

Harold Musetescu

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Is the Dalai Lama starting to force other Tibetan Buddhist sects to accept who will pick the next 15th Dalai Lama.

It may have already started with the 17th Karmapa Oygen Thinley Dorje.

On November 27, 2019 he publicly agree to accept the Dalai Lama's "Gaden Phodrang Trust" in particular the "Concerned Officers" giving them the primary responsibility for recognizing the next 15th Dalai Lama.

The tradition in the past was that the Panchen Lama was to find the next incarnation and not the "Gaden Phodrang Trust.

This would mean that the 11th Chinese Panchen Lama would have been task in locating and enthroning the 15th Dalai Lama.

But no more it seems.

In his letter the 17th Karmapa states on pages 4 and 5 the following.

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As this statement makes it clear, there is no need to mention the primary responsibility for recognizing the rebirth lies with the concerned officers of the Dalai Lama's "Gaden Phodrang Trust........Thus, the support and concensus of the high lamas who head the lineages of Tibetan Buddhism, including the Yungdrung Bon.....is essential".
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Now the 17th Karmapa is publicly stating that the other sects MUST officially get involved with recognizing the next 15th Dalai Lama.

This action would be a slap in the face of the Chinese Government who have declared that they will recognize the next 15th Dalai Lama.

It appears that the Dalai Lama has now declared WAR with the Chinese Government.

Is the 17th Karmapa saying all this freely or is he the puppet to the Dalai Lama and the CTA?

Why did he chose to make this public statement at this time?

It should be the Dalai Lama publicly stating the other sects MUST also publicly recognize the "Gaden Phodrang Trust's" 15th Dalai Lama and NOT the Chinese Governments pick.

It is not the Dalai Lama telling the other sects what they must do but the 17th Karmapa acting as the Dalai Lama's mouth piece.

The Dalai Lama is seeking to stop a Chinese 15th Dalai Lama who like the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama pro Dorje Shugden.

Here is a link to an article written by the 17th Ogyen Thinley Dorje Dalai Lama were he makes the public statement.

http://kunkyongtrust.org/2020/01/03/message-of-his-holiness-the-17th-gyalwang-karmapa-for-religious-heads-conference-2019/?fbclid=IwAR0dYHKNZOXqNcRgi0bwVyXIc9LlELFU4V9nqQ_ghU32ny7CrlkLAkxMmoQ

Harold Musetescu

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For those of you who don't know the "Gaden Phodrang Trust" is the "Private" office of the 14th Dalai Lama.

https://savetibet.org/tibet-press-watch-winter-2012/
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His September 24, 2011 statement says, “If it is decided that the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama should continue and there is a need for the Fifteenth Dalai Lama to be recognized, responsibility for doing so will primarily rest on the concerned officers of the Dalai Lama’s Gaden Phodrang Trust.” The Gaden Phodrang Trust is a reference to the formalization of the office that is currently the “Office of H.H. the Dalai Lama.”

Given that the Chinese Government uses religious institutions to serve its political ends and given the central role of the Dalai Lamas in Tibetan spiritual life, the statement categorically says, “Bear in mind that, apart from the reincarnation recognized through such legitimate methods, no recognition or acceptance should be given to a candidate chosen for political ends by anyone, including those in the People’s Republic of China.”
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So the "Concerned Officers" of the Dalai Lama's "Gaden Phodrang Trust" are HIS handpicked members of his "PRIVATE" office.

Now via the 17th Karmapa the Dalai Lama is telling the Sakya, Nyingma, Kagyu and Bon sects they must be officially part of finding his reincarnation.

This way they are publicly forced to accept the Gaden Phodrang Trusts 15th Dalai Lama that they them selfs help to find and recognized.

They will be sending a message to the Chinese Government that they will not accept a Chinese recognized 15th Dalai Lama.

They will after this recognition all bow to the new anti Dorje Shugden 15th Dalai Lama.

The 14th Dalai Lama has now screwed the Sakya, Nyingma, Kagyu and Bon Sects via the 17th Karmapa's public letter.