Author Topic: The Karmapa controversy highlights the corruption and incapabilities of the CTA  (Read 1523 times)

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Betraying the time-honored spiritual relationship between the four regents of the Karma Kagyu tradition, Tai Situ enthroned his own Karmapa candidate, Ogyen Trinley Dorje as the 17th Karmapa in 1992. Armed with the political approval of the Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala and the Chinese government, he defied spiritual tradition. The Tibetan leadership had no authority to recognize the reincarnation of the Karmapa. In fact, the Karmapa lineage is older than the Tibetan leadership’s own history.

It is not difficult to see why Dharamsala cross the line and imposed itself in the recognition of the head of the Karma Kagyu lineage when it did not have the right to do so. It is clear that they wanted to control the Karma Kagyu by controlling their leader. By suppressing the Sharmapa, who had the legitimate right to name the Karmapa, the Tibetan leadership sent a clear threat that opposing them will lead to trouble. Until today, the Karmapa controversy still drives a wedge into the very heart of the Karma Kagyu community and highlights how corrupt and incapable the Tibetan leadership really is. They have failed to maintain unity and harmony among the various traditions of Tibetan Buddhism instead of managing them effectively.

Watch this video to find out more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7fpTw09Rg

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I agree that the Dalai Lama should not have gotten involved in recognising the 17th Karmapa. Well, instead of gaining more "control" over the Karma Kagyus, they have created more schism, and more disunity and another  a group of people who dislike the Tibetan leadership. Not a smart move at all.

I don't think they have failed in maintaining unity, because I don't think that is something they wanted. If we look at CTA's track record, they clearly show us that unity is one thing they do not know how to or want to cultivate/encourage in their society, which is sad coming from a so-called Buddhist community with a spiritual leader that the world sees as compassionate. Totally an illusion, total opposite of what they claim. More and more ugly truths are going to be exposed. This is karma returning to them in full circle for the injustice persecution

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It unbelievably disappointing that someone who is believed to be an emanation of the Buddha Maitreya would create so much schism and even incite violence for self-gain. Beyond betraying his vinaya vows and committing one of the heinous crimes, Tai Situpa is fundamentally creating doubts about Buddha’s teachings. He is also demeaning all the great masters of the Gelug and Sakya traditions who has/had tremendous faith in Dorje Shugden and bringing lineages into disrepute.

How “low” can one go just for wealth and power, which cannot be taken to the afterlife anyway? Apparently very low as seen in Tai Situpa’s case. This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFxphAVnRFo illustrate clearly how damaging Tai Situpa can be. It contains footages of the attack on Rumtek Monastery during Sharmapa’s enthronement of Trinley Thaye Dorje.

It is well-known within the Tibetan community that this attack which was masterminded and led by Tai Situpa resulted in his 5-year entry restrictions to India. This was even aptly observed by renowned Tibetologist Glenn H. Mullin http://www.dorjeshugden.com/img-fs.php?i=http://www.dorjeshugden.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/TaiSitupaEntryBan-1b.jpg


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How “low” can one go just for wealth and power, which cannot be taken to the afterlife anyway? Apparently very low as seen in Tai Situpa’s case. This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFxphAVnRFo illustrate clearly how damaging Tai Situpa can be. It contains footages of the attack on Rumtek Monastery during Sharmapa’s enthronement of Trinley Thaye Dorje.

It is well-known within the Tibetan community that this attack which was masterminded and led by Tai Situpa resulted in his 5-year entry restrictions to India. This was even aptly observed by renowned Tibetologist Glenn H. Mullin http://www.dorjeshugden.com/img-fs.php?i=http://www.dorjeshugden.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/TaiSitupaEntryBan-1b.jpg


Well it looks like the Tai Situ can go VERY VERY LOW even if it means pimping his own Karmapa! So sad... just watch the video of what the Karmapa that he choose say about all this. He made it very clear how much he dislike politics and how much he has been abused and manipulated into doing so many things he does not like, goes to show how evil this Tai Situ can be and that he would subject his own Karmapa... http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-ramifications-of-karmapas-shocking-special-message/

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Each Tibetan lineage has their own protocols to select and recognise the reincarnation of their high lamas. Tai Situ has already violated the protocol of the Karma Kagyu lineage when he recognised the Karmapa.

As a lama from the Gelug lineage, the Dalai Lama has no right to give an endorsement to the Karmapa because this has nothing to do with him. Obviously, The CTA and the Dalai Lama see this as an opportunity to groom a successor.

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This is the negative side when politic gets their hand into spiritual. Nothing beneficial but only control which eventually lead to money. CTA didn't respect their own people's traditions and culture but just act to fulfill their power hunger. If CTA keep screaming and shouting for their Tibetan cause and their rights for Tibet but why they did the opposite for their people where CTA ripped of the rights of their people? CTA is in even the worst situation where to created disharmony within Tibetan which already lost their country. Why CTA keep damaging Tibetan? Is CTA the real enemy of Tibetan?

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The Karmapa issue is a result of hunger for power and money. What is the motivation of Tai Situ Rinpoche recognising the 17th Karmapa? Why didn't he follow the tradition or protocol of Kagyu lineage?

When he recognised his own Karmapa, it was a clear indication he and Sharmapa Rinpoche were not in a good relationship. It is sad, the two of them are the heart sons of the Karmapa but they were not working together to look for their guru's incarnation and to continue to serve him.

Last year, the two 17th Karmapa met up, this was a very rejoicing news. It means both of them were concerned about the future of the lineage and they think it is necessary to keep the lineage strong. Regardless who is the real Karmapa, their action was very encouraging.

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The Karmapa issue is a result of hunger for power and money. What is the motivation of Tai Situ Rinpoche recognising the 17th Karmapa? Why didn't he follow the tradition or protocol of Kagyu lineage?

When he recognised his own Karmapa, it was a clear indication he and Sharmapa Rinpoche were not in a good relationship. It is sad, the two of them are the heart sons of the Karmapa but they were not working together to look for their guru's incarnation and to continue to serve him.

Last year, the two 17th Karmapa met up, this was a very rejoicing news. It means both of them were concerned about the future of the lineage and they think it is necessary to keep the lineage strong. Regardless who is the real Karmapa, their action was very encouraging.

The meeting of the 2 Karmapas signifies the beginning of the peace for the Karma Kagyu sect. Since the recognition of 2 Karmapas, the sect has been in chaos and split into 2 sides. CTA purposely created the situation and divide the power by forcefully recognising Karmapa Ogyen Trinley using His Holiness's fame and influence.

This has not been the case for hundreds of years where no lama from another sect recognises the head of Karma Kagyu sect. Sharmar Rinpoche has been the lama who is recognising the Karmapa lifetime after lifetime without a problem. Karmapa Thaye Dorje was recognised by Sharmar Rinpoche and CTA rejected that candidate and supported their own candidate instead.

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The Karmapa issue is a result of hunger for power and money. What is the motivation of Tai Situ Rinpoche recognising the 17th Karmapa? Why didn't he follow the tradition or protocol of Kagyu lineage?

When he recognised his own Karmapa, it was a clear indication he and Sharmapa Rinpoche were not in a good relationship. It is sad, the two of them are the heart sons of the Karmapa but they were not working together to look for their guru's incarnation and to continue to serve him.

Last year, the two 17th Karmapa met up, this was a very rejoicing news. It means both of them were concerned about the future of the lineage and they think it is necessary to keep the lineage strong. Regardless who is the real Karmapa, their action was very encouraging.

The meeting of the 2 Karmapas signifies the beginning of the peace for the Karma Kagyu sect. Since the recognition of 2 Karmapas, the sect has been in chaos and split into 2 sides. CTA purposely created the situation and divide the power by forcefully recognising Karmapa Ogyen Trinley using His Holiness's fame and influence.

This has not been the case for hundreds of years where no lama from another sect recognises the head of Karma Kagyu sect. Sharmar Rinpoche has been the lama who is recognising the Karmapa lifetime after lifetime without a problem. Karmapa Thaye Dorje was recognised by Sharmar Rinpoche and CTA rejected that candidate and supported their own candidate instead.

The meeting of the two Karmapas is a very good news, especially to the Kagyupas. It shows that they can put away their differences for the sake of the lineage.

I believe both Karmapas understand that the dispute has caused much damage to the lineage. There is no harmony and unity, how to ensure the lineage will continue on? Having two Karmapas confuse the practitioners, people will have doubt which is the real Karmapa.

Even though a high lama may emanate into few human forms at the same time, but they can only be one Karmapa who will take over the the throne. Rumtek Monastery which is the main seat of the Karmapa has been without a lama for a very long time. This is not auspicious. There must be one Karmapa chosen to ensure the continuity of the lineage.

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Now the world able to see how CTA managing and the result of how they control people. In the very first place, CTA should not get involved in spiritual because they have no right to say anything fro spiritual. When politic takes place in spiritual it's just to control. It's a power game. With this how spiritual can grow? The entire spiritual movement is just being controlled and dictated by the politic. That is why Ogyen Trinely run away and send a video to tell his frustration. Even the one appointed by CTA also runs away.

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Now the world able to see how CTA managing and the result of how they control people. In the very first place, CTA should not get involved in spiritual because they have no right to say anything fro spiritual. When politic takes place in spiritual it's just to control. It's a power game. With this how spiritual can grow? The entire spiritual movement is just being controlled and dictated by the politic. That is why Ogyen Trinely run away and send a video to tell his frustration. Even the one appointed by CTA also runs away.
The CTA knows that Tibetan Buddhism is one very unique thing that they have and people want it. The mysterious living Buddha like the Dalai Lama and Karmapa naturally draw the attention and interest of the public. The CTA sees that they can use high lamas to raise money, that is why they are happy to mix politics with religion. Without these high lamas, no one will really look at the CTA and give them free money.

The CTA claims they are preserving the precious Tibetan Buddhism but they actually don't believe in Buddhism and they don't practice the Dharma. If they practice the Dharma, they will not put blames on others for their failures.

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Now the world able to see how CTA managing and the result of how they control people. In the very first place, CTA should not get involved in spiritual because they have no right to say anything fro spiritual. When politic takes place in spiritual it's just to control. It's a power game. With this how spiritual can grow? The entire spiritual movement is just being controlled and dictated by the politic. That is why Ogyen Trinely run away and send a video to tell his frustration. Even the one appointed by CTA also runs away.
Tibetan Buddhism is very precious and the Tibetans are very proud of it. Unfortunately, even thought they are the 'owner' of the Tibetan Buddhism but they don't study and they don't practise it. If they study Tibetan Buddhism, they will not do what they did to Dorje Shugden followers. They will do a thorough study before imposing the ban. They will not mix politics with religion because historically, governments that mixed politics with religion failed miserably. A real democratic government don't mix politics with religion.