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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2014, 07:36:28 AM »
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However on a brighter note, even though the Dalai Lama launched the book, he did not say that his followers are not allowed to practice as he mentioned that it is up to his followers to make their own choice after reading the book.

Actually the dalai's followers, as the name says, follow him, and hardly need any book to be convinced of the perverted views of their evil mullah.

Therefore, the book is meant just as a weapon to be used against his non-followers, the discriminating people who refuse to become fanatical witch-hunters.

And, when the dalai says “If you want to dispute what it says, that’s up to you. If, after studying the book, you want to oppose the Dalai Lama, that’s also up to you”, he is not giving any freedom to anyone; rather, he is stating very clearly that whoever insists on rejecting the dalai's psychotic witch-hunt opposes his authority -- which, in the theocratic Tibetan society, means that such a conscientious person is condemned to anything between ostracism and death, for oneself and for all of one's relatives.

Therefore, the dalai's perfidious statement is nothing short of a coercion, a brutal threat, an undisguised violence against human conscience. And, while such an atrocious behavior is compatible is the dalai's Islamic roots, it is utterly incompatible with the Buddha's teachings, which are all about freedom and non-violence.

Thus, ultimately, Buddhist Tibetans face the choice of either following the teachings of the Buddha, thus rejecting the monstrous dalai's personality cult, or following the perverse ideology of dalaism, thus abandoning the Buddha's Dharma.

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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2014, 05:00:17 PM »
“The Dolgyal people are quite rough. They killed the Director of the Institute of Buddhist Dialectics by stabbing him and cutting his throat along with two other young scholars. They have threatened people in Mundgod and elsewhere. Because of this we need to be careful. -Part of Dalai Lama's speech when inaugurating book on Dhogyal.

Galen, thanks for sharing the article from the official website of the CTA. Looks like the people on HHDL's side wanted to show who was the rough one when five men attacked an 84 year old monk in Trijang Ladrang.
With the publishing of this book, it is very apparent that the CTA are going all out to convince the mass of their lies and non-truths regarding Dorje Shugden. Shoudn't their effort and funds be channeled towards the cause of uniting and creating a harmony Tibet? It is so obvious the Shugden issue is eating the CTA that a book have been published and launched on such an important event as The Lam Rim teachings days. Have they forgot the fact that the Lam Rim's teachings came from Pabongka Rinpoche, who is a Dorje Shugden practitioner?

We could examine why the CTA is now getting aggressive and rough on this Dorje Shugden ban recently. Is it because the Dorje Shugden movement is getting stronger and stronger and the followers of the Dalai Lama is weaning down? We can see that this forum is very active and churning out a lot of articles that are based on facts to keep the world informed of what is happening out there.

The fact that right after the launch of the book by the Dalai Lama, the old monk in Trijang Ladrang in Shar Gaden was attacked! Isn't this too obvious??? They can try to convince the mass of their lies, but they could have done it in a peaceful manner. Just like what this website is doing, educating the mass based on facts and evidence.

Also, Trijang Rinpoche is now getting more active in giving teachings and initiations around the world, and this may have gotten the CTA scared.




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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2014, 05:18:25 PM »
A book published to justify the ban on a Buddha? Why is this being done? What is the real motive behind it? I am just wondering... and made HHDL inaugurate it? If it is really a genuine ban or people are believing into this, why make HHDL to perform this inauguration? To make it even more official? Seriously i find this funny, very funny. They published a book trying to convince people not to practice Dorje Shugden because they are afraid that no one else will be believing the ban.

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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2014, 05:23:43 PM »
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They can try to convince the mass of their lies, but they could have done it in a peaceful manner.

Lie is itself a violence, a violence against truth.

That's why Gandhi's satyagraha (persistence on truth) expresses his non-violent rebellion against the brutal Western colonialism.

Now, as opposed to Gandhi, the evil dalai follows the way of lie and every other kind of violence, in order to serve brutal Western colonialism.

How opposed are Gandhi (who never received the Nobel Peace Prize) and the evil dalai (who together with mass murderers such as Henry Kissinger did receive the Nobel Peace Prize)! 

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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2014, 03:04:07 PM »
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However on a brighter note, even though the Dalai Lama launched the book, he did not say that his followers are not allowed to practice as he mentioned that it is up to his followers to make their own choice after reading the book.

Actually the dalai's followers, as the name says, follow him, and hardly need any book to be convinced of the perverted views of their evil mullah.

Therefore, the book is meant just as a weapon to be used against his non-followers, the discriminating people who refuse to become fanatical witch-hunters.

And, when the dalai says “If you want to dispute what it says, that’s up to you. If, after studying the book, you want to oppose the Dalai Lama, that’s also up to you”, he is not giving any freedom to anyone; rather, he is stating very clearly that whoever insists on rejecting the dalai's psychotic witch-hunt opposes his authority -- which, in the theocratic Tibetan society, means that such a conscientious person is condemned to anything between ostracism and death, for oneself and for all of one's relatives.

Therefore, the dalai's perfidious statement is nothing short of a coercion, a brutal threat, an undisguised violence against human conscience. And, while such an atrocious behavior is compatible is the dalai's Islamic roots, it is utterly incompatible with the Buddha's teachings, which are all about freedom and non-violence.

Thus, ultimately, Buddhist Tibetans face the choice of either following the teachings of the Buddha, thus rejecting the monstrous dalai's personality cult, or following the perverse ideology of dalaism, thus abandoning the Buddha's Dharma.

Unfortunately the Dalai Lama has become such a personality icon, supported by the sycophantic western media  that nobody questions what he says. The lack of media interest in the ridiculous ban and subsequent oppression of Tibetans who are Dorje Shugden practitioners is concrete evidence of this. I don't know how people cannot see the huge contradiction between this person who talks about human rights and compassion and yet endorses a book which clearly encourages schism and oppression against fellow Buddhists who simply want to continue a practice given to them by their teachers.
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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2014, 09:37:04 AM »
I remember seeing Dalai Lama on Larry King live on CNN several years ago. He shared the segment on the same stage seated next to Joel Olsteen, a Christian Minister. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Joel but, putting Dalai Lama on same stage as an equal with Joel put Tibetan Buddhism in a bad light way back then. I'm never amazed at the idiocy of Dalai Lamas handlers, advisors and the man himself. I have zero interest in the guy! I could care less if he lifts a ban! He is a nobody except to the herd mentality he commands. He is pretty close to a political/religious TV pundit these days...... In other words.... Meaningless. We take care of our people, protect and propagate our lineage and don't waste time paying any heed to the old pundit and his minions. (Jeff then spits on floor in disgust).

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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2014, 10:08:13 PM »
Distorting history leads to dissension.  This contradicts what the Dalai Lama is preaching in promoting world peace and non-violence. 

Dalai Lama, you are on a world stage and the spot light is shining on you brilliantly.  Whatever you do and whatever dissension you create will be noticed and become backlash.  It will become a stumbling block to your endeavours and the Tibetan cause.  Please stop distorting a true lineage!

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Re: Dalai Lama inaugurates a book on 'Dhogyal'
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2014, 03:12:16 AM »
If accusations against Dorje Shugde is true and there is in fact REAL and concrete scriptural evidence to support the claims, there would be no need to for the CTA or anyone to publish a book. It would be more than adequate to hold an open debate in the presence of all Gelug scholars, Geshes, lamas and monks. Do it like it has always been done - in the open and for all to see and judge.

The CTA has a Dolgyal Research Committee which is really nothing more than a propaganda machinery, hell-bent on distorting the truth to corrupt the minds of the Tibetan people. I cannot think of another modern government that has a department with similar functions.

This is not the first time such a book has been published and just like this new book, the previous book also accused Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen's mother of anti-Dharma acts. In October 1989, the CTA's Dolgyal Research Committee published "A Brief History Of Opposition To Shugden"which quoted the Fifth Dalai Lama as saying "…because of the meddling of Lag Agyal of Gekhasa (Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen's mother), the false reincarnation of Tulku Sonam Geleg Palzang (Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen) got his way and because of distorted prayers he became a perfidious interfering spirit and brought serious harm to sentient beings…"

Whether they authors of the book realise it or not, they are in fact saying that a single person, Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen's mother, duped the entire Gelugpa school INCLUDING the teacher of Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen who also happened to be the teacher of the Fifth Dalai Lama, the great Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen. Panchen Lobsang Chokyi was certainly no ordinary lama.

Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen was the teacher and mentor who trained and guided Lozang Gyatso who became known as the Great Fifth Dalai Lama. It was the Great Fifth who gave his teacher the monastery of Tashilhunpo and it was also the Great Fifth who accorded the title Panchen (short for Pandita chen mo, meaning Great Scholar) to his teacher. The Fifth Dalai Lama in his wisdom and clairvoyance not only recognized his teacher to be the incarnation of Buddha Amitabha but also to have hailed from the illustrious line of incarnations tracing back to Khedrup Je himself.

The significance of this line of incarnation cannot be understated for it was Khedrup Je who on five occasions met his master the great Je Tsongkhapa himself in mystical states, after Tsongkhapa passed into clear light. Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen wrote many important Buddhist texts as did his past incarnation as Khedrup Je. Amongst some of the key works by Khedrup Je was the text on the Kalachakra tantra, which is still being used by the present and 14th Dalai Lama as the basis for His Holiness’s empowerments into the Kalachakra practice.

The Great Fifth Dalai Lama’s veneration and devotion to his teacher was well known and when Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen passed into clear light, the Great Fifth himself composed a special prayer asking for his teacher and mentor to return, and further instructed all monks from the great monasteries to recite the special prayer. There is no doubt that the Fifth Dalai Lama had tremendous love and trust for his teacher.

Having established the undoubted greatness of Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen, it is significant to note that it was none other than this highly accomplished master who recognized his other heart student and contemporary of the Great Fifth Dalai Lama, Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen to be who he really was, i.e. Manjushri himself. The Panchen Lama Losang Chokyi Gyaltsen, the teacher of both Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen and the Fifth Dalai Lama, had written a prayer listing Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen’s previous incarnations as including Venerable Manjushri, Mahasiddha Birupa, Sakya Pandita Kunga Gyaltsen, Buton Rinchen Drub, Duldzin Dragpa Gyaltsen, Panchen Sonam Dragpa, Sonam Yeshe Wangpo and Sonam Geleg Pelsang.

Therefore if its true that Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen arose my the manipulations of his mother, it would mean that the Panchen Losang Chokyi Gyaltsen was fooled. In other words, the Fifth Dalai Lama learned from a teacher who had no clairvoyance and omniscience whatsoever. It would mean the the lineage of Dalai Lama are seriously flawed in what they learned from the time of the Fifth Dalai Lama.

Is that the case?


It would also mean that Panchen Losang Chokyi Gyaltsen wrongly recognized and wrongly tutored the Fifth Dalai Lama. If Panchen Losang Chokyi Gyaltsen was wrong of Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen, then he would had been wrong of the Fifth Dalai Lama. No?


This is not the first time such a book has been published and just like this new book, the previous book also accused Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen's mother of anti-Dharma acts. In October 1989, the CTA's Dolgyal Research Committee published "A Brief History Of Opposition To Shugden"which quoted the Fifth Dalai Lama as saying "…because of the meddling of Lag Agyal of Gekhasa (Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen's mother), the false reincarnation of Tulku Sonam Geleg Palzang (Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen) got his way and because of distorted prayers he became a perfidious interfering spirit and brought serious harm to sentient beings…"