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Ratna Shugden

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Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« on: February 20, 2016, 02:25:58 AM »
Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden

"Suddenly, a thick gust of wind and smoke swirled out from the funeral pyre into the sky and covered all of Lhasa, in the shape of a large hand. As the smoke swept through the sky, earthquakes shook the land, hail fell, cattle died, crops failed and there was famine throughout the land. These were all signs of the cumulative negative karma of the people who had destroyed a holy being, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen."

As a holy being, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, will not create natural disasters to harm sentient beings, to vent His 'anger' on those who are not involved in His death & to show His supernatural powers, He knows that all these are against bodhichitta.

Ratna Shugden

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 04:05:34 AM »
A Dharma scholar will not violate His percept(s) by committing suicide.

James Bond

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 09:10:57 AM »
Many people think that the events after the death of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was the result of the aggressive actions in order for him to get revenge on the people who have killed him. This wasn't the case however. The events after his death, like the cattle dying, the crops dying, the earthquakes and the famine were not because of Tulku Drakpe Gyeltsen. It was because of the negative karma of the people who killed Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen. Because Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was such a holy being, his death meant a HUGE amount of negative karma was accumulated. This is the same as assassinating the president of the United states and expecting to be put to jail.


grandmapele

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2016, 09:33:30 AM »
Right on, James Bond. Harming or killing a monk or member of the sangha much less an attained being bring a lot of negative karma. It is this negative karma that ripened almost instantaneously for the murderers and those with related karma. They are lucky that Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was an enlightened and compassionate being that the karma ripened then and that the negative karma can be expunged that soon.

Remember, even the Buddha in one of his lives before he was enlightened, had to go to hell after he as the captain of the transport boat, killed a murderer to save 500 passengers on his boat. Killing creates negative karma and killing a member of the Sangha and an attained being bring tremendous negative karma.


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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 11:34:09 PM »
When bad things happened people of that time would associate with spirit or black magic. They blame others. They are the victims. It is quite prevalent during that time. For those who understand it is negative karma. Whatever we experience is from our karma.

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 08:20:27 AM »
Human nature when anything bad happen we like to blame others that's the reason why when Tulku Drapa Gyeltsen passing people will assume he is the one who cause all these disasters because no one like to be blame .

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 03:58:28 PM »
I agreed with sharing by everyone. Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden was an enligthened being. He will not have anger and do not take on revenge with people that kill him. All the bad things that happened after his death were due to cumulative karma of those people for killing an enlightened being. If one do not have karma to be harmed, even the most powerful spirit can't harm you. We are the owner and creator of our own karma. Be responsible for your own karma and be prepared to face the result.

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 09:26:33 AM »
I too heard it is very bad karma when a high lama is killed, and it is the reason why there are a lot of bad events after the death of Tulku Gyeltsen. It is very sad to see high lamas are killed.

VeronicaSmith

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 01:36:31 PM »
Yes I agree completely, I know the story of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen and many people thought he was a demon out for revenge. That is wrong, he was becoming a protector and he was also just channeling his rage and powers he needed for being a protector. However, the bad things that happened when they set his funeral pyre on fire and the things that affected the land is from negative karma from killing an extremely holy being. It ended up okay though as Dorje Shugden was born or came to form from Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, he channeled his rage in death and became a protector.

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2016, 11:13:12 AM »
Ratna Shugden, I definitely agree with what you have commented. Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was already enlightened even way before he manifested as Dorje Shugden and no matter what you say or do to an enlightened being will never get angry or hate you, why? They do not posses any emotions at all, and because they do not posses any emotions, obviously they will not harm any living being. It is our Karma that is causing all the bad things to happen. I can never agree with the Dalai Lama that Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, because He is not one! He is an enlightened being, taken a rebirth in the gods realm so that he can be closer to us and connect with us easily. Please stop discriminating DS practitioners, we have done nothing wrong. If Dorje Shugden really is an evil spirit, why are the dharma texts written in his previous lives not being burnt off, instead most of the Tibetan monasteries still uses it until today.

grandmapele

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2016, 01:06:21 PM »
VeronicaSmith, I don't think I will call the wrath of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen as rage. Rage denotes uncontrollable anger whereas denotes extreme anger (chiefly used for humorous or rhetorical effect). Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is an enlightened being even before his demise and has no anger or rage.

Taking rebirth in the God realm to be Dorje Shugden to be closer to us karmically within the 6 samsaric realms show tremendous compassion on the side of Dorje Shugden - to be able to help us swifter and more effective and yet having to remain in the samsaric realm!!! Mind blowing indeeed.

Ratna Shugden

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2016, 10:35:11 AM »
Evil spiritual sentient beings capitalize on large amount of negative energy created by the following to wreck havoc:
1. When people of a country committed a non-virtuous act together, they create a negative collective karma, such as a war.
2. Drop in general dharma confidence due to the death of a person who is important to the Dharma.

VeronicaSmith

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Re: Clearing the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen/Dorje Shugden
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2016, 03:19:16 AM »
Dorje Shugden was never bad, he was just misunderstood when he became a protector. He was seen as a threat in the eyes of the ones who wronged him and he was deemed a demon. This is untrue as if you look into the details like the people have here, there is no way he is a harmful spirit, he is a wrathful protector. He is misunderstood rather than he s bad.

He was becoming a protector and he was become more wrathful to be protector. He is no demon.