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Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« on: February 04, 2013, 09:40:22 AM »
This is an interesting article - i didn't know that there was a Tibetan Buddhist link in Xi Jinping's wife. She may not be influential but who knows. I am 100% sure that it will not affect Tibet's position in China on a political basis but perhaps the Dharma will grow more in China because of this connection.

For me, "Twenty million Chinese will visit Tibet this year - a province with three million Tibetans" means that 20 million Chinese will be exposed to Buddhism which is part and parcel of Tibet, regardless of their intention to visit Tibet - i.e. even if they were just visiting for 'natural beauty', they would see the temples in Lhasa etc. and hopefully go to visit Dorje Shugden monasteries for tourist reasons but receive dharma imprints at the same time. May the Dharma and Dorje Shugden's practice flourish in Tibet, in China and the world...

Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Tibet-s-conquest-of-China-s-Xi-Jinping-family/Article1-1005946.aspx

Pramit Pal Chaudhuri, Hindustan Times
New Delhi, February 04, 2013

The new leader of China, Xi Jinping, has an unusually close and personal connection with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan Buddhism. That the Dalai Lama presented Xi's father a watch that the latter wore for years afterwards is well-known. What is less known is that Xi's mother was buried with full Tibetan Buddhist rites and Xi's wife has embraced the religion.

Xi acceded to the request of his mother, Qi Xin, to be buried with full Tibetan Buddhist rites, says Richard Rigby, Chinese expert at the Australian National University and a former analyst with the Australian Secret Intelligence Organisation.

Xi's wife, a popular folk singer and an honorary major-general in the People's Liberation Army, is a well-known practioner of Tibetan Buddhism, say both Rigby and Tibetan scholar and activist Claude Arpi. Arpi says, "One of her songs is about the beauty of Tibet."

The Dalai Lama has often spoken of his friendship with Xi's father. But his gift of an Omega watch to the then Vice-Premier Xi Zhongxun took place in 1954 or 1955, before the Dalai Lama turned against Beijing.

Arpi says when Dalai Lama's brother held informal talks with Deng Xiaoping in the 1980s on Tibet, the rehabilitated Xi Zhongxun still wore the watch.

However, no one believes that Xi Jinping's exposure to Tibetan Buddhism will make much difference as far as Beijing's policy towards Lhasa is concerned.

First, Xi's father and the Dalai Lama were "friends" only in "the Chinese sense of the term" which is "a relationship of mutual political convenience," says Columbia University Tibetan scholar, Robert Barnett. Indian officials also believe there was little or no bond between them.

Second, Xi Jinping heads a collective leadership which cannot waver from the principle that Chinese sovereignty over Tibet cannot be questioned, say Rigby and Barnett.

Third, Tibetan Buddhism has been spreading rapidly among the dominant ethnic Han Chinese the past few decades. Rigby says some believe Tibetan Buddhism has more Han adherents than it has Tibetan believers today. Arpi says Tibet has also emerged as a symbol of natural beauty in modern China. "Twenty million Chinese will visit Tibet this year - a province with three million Tibetans," he said. But fascination with Tibet does not mean support for Tibetan popular aspirations.
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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 10:09:57 AM »
Wow! This is certainly interesting news and although Xi Jinping cannot appear to be biased but I am sure this close relationship would mean that he would be more partial towards hearing out what are the concerns of the Dalai Lama and/or the Tibetan people. I think with this connection to the upper echelon of the Communist party, some of the implementation of Operation Make Friends can be implemented easily.

There are bound to be mutual interests between the Chinese and the Tibetans and I am sure middle ground can be met. And I think to make possible discussions easier, the Tibetan administration have to be totally secular and what prior religious rulings and bans like the Dorje Shugden ban have to be nullified. In that way, CTA can gain the trust and belief of the Chinese communist party. If only, they would take this step. 

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 12:44:43 PM »
Xi Jinping is not the sort of leader like Mao or even Deng and therefore any decision he makes will need the consensus of the Party. Therefore even if Xi has a personal wish to soften China's stance (assuming his father's relationship with the Dalai Lama and his wife's connection with Tibetan Buddhism has some impact on Xi) on Tibet, it will require the Dalai Lama and the CTA to co-operate. China's policy towards Tibet will also have an influence its other border issues and therefore Tibet is a matter that can be determined unilaterally.

Having said that in Xi Jinping, we see all the opportunities for the Dalai Lama and CTA to play a very different strategy and give Xi every reason to reopen dialogue with them. The hard-line stance has not worked so far and so it may be more prudent for the CTA to re-approach China from a spiritual angle rather than strictly political. It may take some time for fences to be mended and for a new relationship to be built and there is no better way than via Tibetan Buddhism. The Chineses have very strongly shown their interest in cultivating Buddhism and the Dalai Lama is still the most visible symbol of Tibetan Buddhist spirituality, especially now that he is no longer the secular head of the Tibetans in exile.

It will definitely help if the CTA first lifts the Dorje Shugden ban before engaging with China otherwise it would be a bit of a farce to talk about harmony through religion when Shugden worshippers are still being oppressed. There is no more mileage that the Dalai Lama and the CTA can get from keeping the ban but on the other hand, by removing the ban not only would the CTA gain from the support of influential Shugden lamas such as Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, the CTA may also be able to win backing from Shugden worshippers in China.

Anyway, I wonder if Xi Jinping's wife is a Dorje Shugden practitioners. I hope she is not only for herself, but it would also be another contributing factor.



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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 05:35:53 PM »
@Vajratruth Xi Jingping is not the sort of leader like Mao Ze Dong and therefore any decision he makes will need the consensus of the Party. That's true.

However, we have to remember that even Mao Ze Dong was referred to by the Dalai Lama his father - and what did he do, but kill thousands of monks and lay Tibetans?

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=2091.msg29674#msg29674

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Recalling his 'very good' relations with Chairman Mao Zedong, the Dalai Lama on Sunday said that he considered him 'as a father' and that the late Chinese leader considered him 'as a son'.


Unless Xi Jingping's wife has some real serious influential pillow talk, I don't think that news like this will have any impact on China's policies towards Tibet!

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2013, 09:01:00 AM »
The most important point is that Tibetan Buddhism seems to be holding great sway in China, now that China's new leader Xi Jinping has a strong link with it, through his parents. Also, his wife has embraced Tibetan Buddhism as well.

Though Beijing is likely to continue its strong anti-Dalai Lama and anti-'Free Tibet' stance( especially because of the recent spate of self-immolations by 'fiery' supporters of the Free Tibet cause ), this will not stop the spread of Tibetan Buddhism, especially among the Han Chinese. Recently, we have followed a couple of threads on the forum which dealt with the growing interest of Han Chinese in Tibetan Buddhism. In fact, the latest was on a lady, who has been doing the Dorje Shugden practice and finding tremendous benefits and great conviction in her Shugden practice. The case of Xu Jing, who has openly spoken for Shugden, supports an observation that Tibetan Buddhism is spreading through growth of the practice of Dorje Shugden in China.



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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 05:29:58 PM »
Actually, even though Xi Jinping and family are Tibetan Buddhists, that does not mean that they will support CTA. You see, Tibetan Buddhism and Tibet's freedom are 2 separate things. Perhaps, the media in the west has painted a picture of Tibetan Buddhism being equal to the Tibetan cause, but that is far from the truth (but well, people still believe it, what to do?). What I do believe now is that this prime minister would be more kinder to the Tibetans and lead them. China's prime ministers have been successively closer to the Tibetans. For example, the previous one, Hu Jintao used to be the general of the Tibetan before he became prime minister and now its Xi Jinping. Perhaps, Tibet will experience a reboot of Budhism there, sans CTA and Dalai Lama.

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 04:55:16 PM »
I do agree with Ensapa that Xi JinPing's strong relationship with Tibetan Buddhism does not mean he will support CTA.

From another perspective, there were once Master Xing Yun from Huo Guang organization said that it is very difficult to spread Dharma in China because there are a lot of restrictions imposed by the government. But we all know building a Dharma center is better than building 100 police stations. Why? Because they help to reduce crime.

Since Xi JinPing and family has strong connection to Buddhism, I sincerely pray that he can heavily promote Buddhism in China.

By the way, is he also a Dorje Shugden practitioner? :)

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 02:30:11 PM »
I do agree with Ensapa that Xi JinPing's strong relationship with Tibetan Buddhism does not mean he will support CTA.

From another perspective, there were once Master Xing Yun from Huo Guang organization said that it is very difficult to spread Dharma in China because there are a lot of restrictions imposed by the government. But we all know building a Dharma center is better than building 100 police stations. Why? Because they help to reduce crime.

Since Xi JinPing and family has strong connection to Buddhism, I sincerely pray that he can heavily promote Buddhism in China.

By the way, is he also a Dorje Shugden practitioner? :)

In the past, maybe China wasnt really happy with Buddhism as they do not believe in religion, but now China is realizing that the moral decay of their citizens will eventually cause them to implode, so China has to do something so that things will not go worse. You can see that China has been organizing Buddhist conferences and rebuilding temples and so forth. Maybe Master Xin Yung could try again now. If Buddhism was reintroduced to China, their moral and humanity issues will be solved.

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 02:08:13 PM »
Religion is also commonly used as a tool to control the people. If the political power of the country is also in control of the religion, it is easier to keep the population in check. This is probably the reason why China has been actively involved in the public appearances of the 11th Panchen Lama, Gyancain Norbu, and its endorsement of the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=3008.0).

Buddhism is increasing in popularity in China and the Chinese government is taking steps to ensure that the government is in control and no one religious leader can be more popular and thus risk destablising China. Fortunately, the Chinese are open to Dorje Shugden practice and promoting it - purely because of HH Dalai Lama's opposition to it. Interesting isnt it.
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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 06:20:12 AM »
Religion is also commonly used as a tool to control the people. If the political power of the country is also in control of the religion, it is easier to keep the population in check. This is probably the reason why China has been actively involved in the public appearances of the 11th Panchen Lama, Gyancain Norbu, and its endorsement of the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=3008.0).

Buddhism is increasing in popularity in China and the Chinese government is taking steps to ensure that the government is in control and no one religious leader can be more popular and thus risk destablising China. Fortunately, the Chinese are open to Dorje Shugden practice and promoting it - purely because of HH Dalai Lama's opposition to it. Interesting isnt it.


I am sure that China knows of religion's power to control a country -- many emperors of the past especially during the tang dynasty have made use of religion to strengthen their grasp on people. Wu Zetian for example had a pagoda filled with Dharma texts, and she did not allow anyone to read them either. (The pagoda was burnt to a crisp, and with it all the Dharma texts when a lighting struck it) it showed very clearly that she collected them to impress someone and not for studies. So China could be taking a page from their own history, but in the ming and qing dynasties the emperors started to get serious with Buddhism as they appointed the Karmapa and Chankya Rolpa Dorje to be the royal spiritual teachers of the emperors...but lets see what will the current Chinese government do with Buddhism.

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 10:49:31 AM »
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Tibetan Buddhism has been spreading rapidly among the dominant ethnic Han Chinese the past few decades. Rigby says some believe Tibetan Buddhism has more Han adherents than it has Tibetan believers today. Arpi says Tibet has also emerged as a symbol of natural beauty in modern China. "Twenty million Chinese will visit Tibet this year - a province with three million Tibetans," he said. But fascination with Tibet does not mean support for Tibetan popular aspirations.


Is this a coincident that the new President of PR China has strong connections to Tibetan Buddhism and the HHDL via skillful means has strong connection with Xi? The ban of Dorje Shugden by the HHDL is also a skill method to promote the Dorje Shugden practice in China for whatever the HHDL says China oppose and whatever the HHDL oppose, China promotes.

It is well known that there are more Han Chinese Tibetan Buddhist in China than Tibetans itself, and potentially more than 1.3 billion people in China and the entire Chinese diaspora around the world is expose to Tibetan Buddhism and Dorje Shugden practice via this connection.

This is really good news and I rejoice.

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Re: Tibet's conquest of China's Xi Jinping family
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2013, 04:59:16 AM »
Is this a coincident that the new President of PR China has strong connections to Tibetan Buddhism and the HHDL via skillful means has strong connection with Xi? The ban of Dorje Shugden by the HHDL is also a skill method to promote the Dorje Shugden practice in China for whatever the HHDL says China oppose and whatever the HHDL oppose, China promotes.

It is well known that there are more Han Chinese Tibetan Buddhist in China than Tibetans itself, and potentially more than 1.3 billion people in China and the entire Chinese diaspora around the world is expose to Tibetan Buddhism and Dorje Shugden practice via this connection.

This is really good news and I rejoice.

The Han Chinese have always been interested in Tibetan Buddhism. Just look at Taiwan and Singapore, to name a few nations that contain a lot of Chinese, and also have high concentration of Vajrayana temples around. So if the Dalai Lama can convince the Chinese, which already have their own brand of Buddhism, but due to auspicious connections, where Vajrayana is more of a continuation from where Mahayana stopped off, many Chinese will naturally be attracted to Vajrayana. And it will all come full circle when China promotes Dorje Shugden and Serkong Tritul teaching the Chinese in Taiwan that Dorje Shugden is good.