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Thank you!
« on: April 22, 2008, 11:44:01 AM »
I feel obliged to convey my deepest thanks to all of you who encourage those Dhogyal people to be polite, to be gentle with their usage of words with respect to the ban of Dhogyal, to discourage them from writing those propaganda works, and to discourage them from organising demonstrations. I am very happy with this, thank you, they should not use bad words, they should not show anger towards His Holiness the Dalai Lama and all the army who support him.

Thank you also for showing so many pictures of His Holiness in this site, this is how I entered, it opens a welcoming door to those who oppose Dhogyal. And thank you again for dedicating the site to his glory, renown and sucess of all his activities, including the elimination of Dhogyal, his lineage and pracitioners from India and the entire world.

One thing I would like to ask you is what his Holiness has repeated everywhere´Please do not keep two faces, so abandon Dhogyal once and forever´.

Do not beleive what those pseudo scholars say defending Dhogyal. Hell is full of scholars, many of my friends are there.

Truly faithful for ever,


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Re: Thank you!
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 12:53:05 PM »
Dear Pehar,

Thank you for your advice.

I understand that Pehar is the name of a spirit who’s advice the Dalai Lama takes by using the state oracle Nechung.

However according to rules of samaya , Guru devotion, and reliance upon the Spiritual Guide, my decision who to follow is governed exclusively to my own experience and judgment.

Therefore by my own experience, my decision and my believing faith, I rely upon the advice and teachings of my Guru, who is most defiantly not the Dalai Lama or a Spirit, whom from the Dalai Lama apparently takes advice.

My Guru gave me empowerments and commitments to practice the Sadhanas of Guru Tsongkhapa and his protector Wisdom Buddha Dorje Shugden.

Tell me why should I take your advise, you who have the name of a spirit, and why I should forsake the advise of my Guru who is kindness, love, wisdom and compassion, embodied in human form, and whose advise, in my own practice and experience, has given me the complete path, to enable me to free all living beings from suffering and my protector to prepare that path for me, to complete it in the shortest possible time.

This is my actual experience! Please tell me why you think I should take your advice?

For whenever I read about or come across anyone who uses the word ‘Dhogyal’, I find only disharmony, schisms, sectarianism and lack of religious freedom.

I have absolutely no problem with you taking the advice of the Dalai Lama not to practice Dorje Shugden, which is between you and your Guru. If he is not you Guru then the advice is political and not even Buddhist advice.

I do however have a problem with you telling me not to practice Dorje Shugden, for what I practice is between me and my Guru.

What you and the Dalai Lama are doing is equivalent to the archbishop of Canterbury or me telling the Pope it in wrong to practice the worship of the Virgin Mary.

There were many people burnt to death in England and tortured in Europe during the 15th 16th century exactly because of this sort of religious intolerance.

Perhaps you have no knowledge of western history and its past religious intolerances.

However we in the west, and in some places in the east, have learnt from this history, to be tolerant of religious differences.



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Re: Thank you!
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 05:30:14 PM »
Dear Pehar,

Neither do I have any problem with you taking the advice of the Dalai Lama not to practice Dorje Shugden. Why the Dalai Lama should be the totalitarian Guru?

One of the beautiful aspects of Buddha teachings is tolerance. To this regard, I remember some words of my guru: "Buddha wants happy people, no Buddhists. Emptiness, karma, rebitrh, etc are not Buddhists or Buddha inventions; they are truths that always have existed, but Buddha realized that. Ultimately speaking, Bhuddha is not showing us "nothing new", he is showing us things or phenomena that always have been there, and His teachings are for everyone, no matter his social status, race, religion, beliefs, gender, etc etc...". The importance of his teachins is how we can handle our life to this phenomena, how can we abandon our delusions related to those phenomena, how to walk the path and to complete it.

Honestly, your words sound as those of a dictator, your words reflect disharmony, sectarianism, lack of religious freedom and intolerance. And as a result of that kind of actions and wrong views, today the buddhist practitioners, lamas, sangha, lay tibetans, etc are experiencing suffering. This is the result of such advices like yours.

Regarding to the history of religious intolerances: "The country (in other words we can say the people) that has not learned from its history (their actions), is condemned to repeat it."



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Re: Thank you!
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 09:28:20 PM »
(one for the world, one for us, a defenseless religious minority).

You talk, most appropriately, about the Dalai Lama in this terms:
the sucess of all his activities, including the elimination of Dholgyal, his lineage and practitioners from India and the entire world.
Very good! That's exactly the desire of your Master.

Lo and behold, we receive at the same time this interesting clipping from the news:

Sunday, April 20, 2008; Page A09

Dalai Lama Urges Religious Tolerance

ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- The Dalai Lama encouraged people gathered at the University of Michigan on Saturday to preserve their own religious traditions while respecting others with differing beliefs.

"As you know, I always believed, since all different traditions have the same potential to bring inner peace, inner value, . . . it is important to keep one's own tradition," he told about 8,000 people at Crisler Arena.

The exiled Tibetan spiritual leader said that he learned about Islam, Christianity and Judaism through personal contact and that he has a "genuine admiration and respect and appreciation for those traditions."

Isn't this beautiful?
What else to say?
Is there anything else to say?

I rest my case.

Have a pleasant Spring.

Saluti a tutti in Dharamsala!

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Re: Thank you!
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 10:31:56 PM »
Thank you for chastising Pewar so clearly.
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Any more news from New York? I've only seen the Associated Press.