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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2014, 10:18:06 AM »
When religion and politics are joined to the hip, it will cause the practice to spread like wild fire. This is the beginning of the DORJE SHUGDEN Renaissance.

All of the great Lamas in recent memory denounced the mixing of politics and religion, and for good reason.

The Dalai Lama has the best of both worlds.  He uses politics for spiritual purposes.  Not many great lamas have this advantage.

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2014, 10:30:09 AM »
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May HH Dalai Lama keep his word of retiring from politics and may the ban be lifted soon.
 

The Dalai Lama will never retire from politics although he has officially retired.  This is one of the greater reason China do not welcome any discussion for a Tibetan autonomy.  The Dalai Lama will not be able to return to his homeland this life time.  China is on a waiting game to pick the 15th Dalai Lama in order to control and maintain a peaceful Tibet.  Definitely it will come a time when the ban has to be lifted soon.

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2014, 12:50:27 PM »
So what the Dalai Lama says that we are are free to practice what we want is not true. When being asked by the peaceful nun on the ban on DS practitioners, the Dalai Lama reacted in an angry and frustrated way to shut off the nun. The Dalai Lama must be holding on to his anger all this while until this nun triggered his fury. If the Dalai Lama did not have this anger in him, it will not cause such a reaction.

It does show us another side of the Dalai Lama…. Is this a deliberate action?

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2014, 06:37:48 PM »
Wow! This nun is brave and I must say she held her ground and conveyed the essence of Shugden practice. Its amazing that the Dalai Lama's fierce reaction was captured on camera and the perfect opportunity to show the world firsthand of the injustice of the Dorje Shugden ban. May this video and the effort from the protest bring about coverage and real change.

May more come to know of the plight of Shugden practitioners and add pressure unto the CTA and the Dalai Lama to release the ban. It is only with awareness and coverage that we can fight the tyranny of this Dorje Shugden ban. We do not need to demonize the Dalai Lama, we just need to spread facts of whats happening and who Dorje Shugden is to practitioners. That is all that is necessary to provoke people to understand who we are and our cause. Incredible!

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2014, 09:58:31 PM »
I respect this nun courage to speak up and confront HH Dalai Lama firmly on the Dorje Shugden’s ban. 

Agreed to Big Uncle that we should all promote this incidents and bring more awareness to the public so that the CTA and HH Dalai Lama will feel the heat and lift the ban.

Dalai Lama’s statement on “This is not a matter of religious freedom.No, no, no ,no... this is worship of a spirit. So that is wrong” is just illogical.

- Why only ban on Dorje Shugden but not other Bon religion in Tibet as it is really about spirit worship?
 
- If it is spirit worshiping, why would HH Dalai Lama exceptionally allowed the current incarnation of His guru Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche to practise Dorje Shugden?
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/dalai-lama-says-trijang-rinpoche-can-practise-dorje-shugden/

- If Dorje Shugden is a spirit, why would he save HH Dalai Lama to escape from Tibet in 1959? http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/

- If Dorje Shugden is a spirit, then the whole Gelug lineage has lost it’s effectiveness!
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/has-the-gelug-lineage-lost-its-effectiveness/

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2014, 11:17:53 PM »
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The fact that the evil dalai lost his cool not only with a peaceful person, but also with a peaceful ordained person, and even more with a peaceful female ordained person is quite telling.

This shows, to start with, his hatred against peaceful people. Why did he never lose his cool with brutal war criminals such as his dear friend George W. Bush, for instance?

Besides, the fact that the the evil dalai is hell bent on destroying a strongly monastic tradition, such as the Gelugpa, and on trying to forcibly impose on others a primarily non-monastic one, such as the Nyingma, shows his hatred against Vinaya-disciplined Sangha in general. Thus, the evil dalai is similar to the evil king Langdarma, who tried to impose the non-monastic Bönpo, and persecuted monastic Buddhists.

But then the fact that the evil dalai choose a female to show to the world the real face of his intolerance suggests a very deep, repressed, anti-woman hatred, perhaps related to his strange affection towards his first tutor, the sexually perverted Reting.


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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2014, 03:39:13 AM »
It's a far cry from the smiling and friendly expression of a senior monk - an icon of world peace and  compassion that we are familiar with.

It is unbelievable that a highly attained senior monk, revered by many as the emanation of Chenrezig had manifested an uncalled-for anger.  His Holiness Dalai Lama had succumbed to the pressure from the demonstrators and had vented his anger and frustration on an innocent nun! 

Had HH Dalai Lama ever thought of the anguish of every Dorje Shugden practitioner affected by the ban? The nun (and the peaceful demonstrators and all Dorje Shugden followers) merely requested for the freedom of religion. Is this request so difficult to fulfill?

To continue with this ban is a total disrespect of the Gelug lineage gurus who had been propitiating and continue to propitiate Dorje Shugden. The current incarnations of prominent Gelug lineage gurus are still present in the world today e.g. HH Pabongka Rinpoche, HH Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche and HH Zong Rinpoche. Shouldn't these lineage masters be accorded with the proper respect by HH Dalai Lama?

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2014, 02:17:50 PM »
Jamyang Norbu discloses power struggle within the CTA that led to the negligence of protecting the Dalai Lama from the gentle nun who had the access to embarrass the Dalai Lama during the protest at California.
The author is a Tibetan independence activist and writer, currently living in the United States. He is one of the founding members of the Tibetan Youth Congress, the largest pro - independence group of the Tibetan Diaspora.

http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=34615&article=Is+the+Dalai+Lama+safe%3F+-+by+Jamyang+Norbu&t=1&c=4

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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2014, 02:45:46 PM »
The DL clearly states his position that our practice is Not Religion.

So, if we know that is his view, it doesn't make sense to keep trying to convince him to 'give Religious freedom'. I understand trying to show the apparent contradiction between his talks and what we're asking publicly, but think about the psychology of communication here. People in general and his supporters especially regard the DL as a Buddhist authority, so by emphasizing religious freedom and Dorje Shugden, we continuously draw ourselves AND the media into the conveluded battle of words on 'who is Dorje Shugden'. It seems to continually distract everyone from what I feel our first and immediate objective should be - to end the human rights abuses such as violent protests, beatings, shrine and home destruction, withholding public services such as school and hospital, posting personal info on walls to incite violence...

Imagine how different the dialogue would have been between these two if she was asking and telling the DL 'you stop abusing the human rights of your own people' 'you must stop the violence and ostracism of your own people'.

Imagine how much more attention and clarity our various audiences would have if they weren't being introduced to a conveluded debate about some intangible unseen deity, but instead shown pictures of beatings, of documents ostracizing and encouraging violence and so on. They would be more open to pay attention, then when they ask why this is happening, we then tell of the ban of our Protector practice.

He won't have dialogue because he believes it is spirit worship and not religious. But if he is forced by the international community to answer for the human rights abuses, this will naturally set the stage for dialogue about why the abuse is taking place to begin with. Then we can explain the even if people worship spirits, he does not have the right to interfere with people's freedoms using human rights abuses as his weapon!


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Re: Dalai Lama loses his cool with peaceful Buddhist nun
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2014, 05:08:17 PM »
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The DL clearly states his position that our practice is Not Religion.

Which is exactly what shows that the evil dalai is just an ordinary bigot. No one is entitled to define for others whether or not their practice is a ”religion”, as long as one's practice does not harm anyone else.

But, since the evil dalai's own ”rime” bigotry is extensively proven to be harmful to humanity, it is clear that it is not a religion, thus deserving to be eradicated from the face of the earth, so that not even its name reamains.

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So, if we know that is his view, it doesn't make sense to keep trying to convince him to 'give Religious freedom'.

Forget about convincing the evil bigot about whatever. It is enough for others to convince themselves that they are dealing with an evil, psychotic tyrant, who deserves nothing but to be thrown in the garbage bin of history.