Author Topic: Anti-Shugden Chakras  (Read 49575 times)

pgdharma

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Re: Anti-Shugden Chakras
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2016, 08:08:25 AM »

If the illustrious masters over the centuries cannot "get rid of" Dorje Shugden what make him think that he can? Even the Mindroling masters has to admit defeat, proving that Dorje Shugden is not a demon.

If fire puja or any other rituals cannot subdue or get rid of Dorje Shugden, it is logical to say that Dorje Shugden is not a spirit but an Enlightened Being. Surely Dudjom Rinpoche as a high lama should know that the anti shugden chakra will not work. It is so silly that ignorant people will wear this chakra to protect themselves against Dorje Shugden.

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Re: Anti-Shugden Chakras
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2016, 02:19:19 AM »
This is just plain illogical on so many levels.

Why is it that Dorje Shugden practitioners the ones being criticised for being sectarian when we are the only subjected to petty actions like this? It is just mind-boggling that a former head of Nyingma would somehow find it necessary to produce such “amulet” when there is no logical basis for it. Even if one refused to believe that Dorje Shugden is enlightened, why is there a need to sow seeds of fear and promote segregation within the Buddhist community? More so when there is not even a shred of proof of any immediate dangers caused Dorje Shugden to anyone to the warrant the production of such protective amulet.

Begs the question what exactly is Dudjom Rinpoche trying to prove with such stunt? In this regard, agree with Grandmapele’s succinct conclusion, “If the illustrious masters over the centuries cannot "get rid of" Dorje Shugden what make him think that he can? Even the Mindroling masters has to admit defeat, proving that Dorje Shugden is not a demon”.

And let’s not even start on how illogical it is to have “protection” against a Buddha.

Amazingly but not surprisingly, even in the face of such unjust antics, there has never been any report of Dorje Shugden (through His oracle) disparaging, attacking or saying anything negative about those who persecute Him despite the intense and prolonged attacks. Neither has He ever instructed Dorje Shugen practitioners to antagonise those against Him. Instead, Dorje Shugden is always focused on alleviating suffering through Dharma.

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Re: Anti-Shugden Chakras
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2016, 12:49:05 AM »
These chakras or anything "against" Dorje Shugden will not work against Him but it will promote Him. Dorje Shugden is a fully enlightened being and he will only bless the people who put their eyes on him.

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Re: Anti-Shugden Chakras
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2016, 09:06:17 PM »
Reading about the actions of Dudjom Rinpoche really makes me think how Buddha Shakyamuni advised us to always ask and check for the truth. The 50 stanzas of Guru Devotion by Ashvagosha said to check out the Guru before we submit ourselves. Well, the absurd actions against enlightened Protector Dorje Shugden by Dudjom Rinpoche looks petty juvenile as if one is trying assert his own wrong views to proof something, monetary benefits maybe? I wondered if the students or followers of Dudjom Rinpoche has checked out their Guru as he leads them in his wrong views. Om Benza Wiki Bitana Soha. May ignorance be removed for those who could not see the blessings and protection that Lord Dorje Shugden accord us.