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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2013, 02:59:48 PM »
The 4th Panchen Lama, Panchen Chokyi Gyeltsen had two main eminent students Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen and the 5th Dalai Lama.

The 4th Panchen Lama recognised Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen as a tulku. Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen is Dorje Shugden. So Panchen Lama is hence very very close to Dorje Shugden.

If Dorje Shugden was indeed a malevolent spirit and he had the confidence of Panchen Lama, well history indicated that Dalai lama and Panchen lama took turns to recognise each other. So would be just quite convenient for Dorje Shugden to influence the Panchen Lama to recognise an incorrect Dalai Lama.

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2014, 07:19:47 AM »
If the 10th Panchen Lama who is 2nd to HH Dalai Lama... who is officially the rightful leader and successor if HHDL is not around, busy and sorry to say, enters "clear light"... can write a prayer on Dorje Shugden... surely we can trust with further logical conviction that Dorje Shugden is not a demon. So what is HHDL gonna say? HH Panchen Lama is WRONG also?

So basically the whole entire pantheon of high Lamas and attained masters are all wrong except HH the Dalai Lama? I definitely do not buy in to this excuse and reason for this prayer is one of the many truths that presents the truth. How much more twisted reasons can the Dalai Lama come up with?? Will HHDL now say, surely he CANNOT, say that someone so highly attained like the Panchen Lama is wrong and has no clairvoyant to see who Dorje Shugden really is, let alone compose a prayer to Dorje Shugden.

Or we could also take the same approach and say well His Holiness you could be wrong too... like you said you were wrong about the DS practice in the beginning, you could also be wrong again now.... nothing seems logical anymore when we go that route.

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2014, 07:26:39 AM »
Any Tibetan-Anglo speakers here? I would really like to see the Panchen Lama's prayer to Dorje Shugden translated into English. I'd also like to hear what the Dalai Lama would say about this revelation about the Panchen Lama's prayer.

Here it is... think it's just been recently translated...

Jamgon Gyelway Tensung Gyalchen Dorje Shugden Rik-nga Drakpo Tselgyi Gangchok leshi Lhundrub-gyi Drubay Trajang Shejawa Shukso

Translation:

Manjunatha’s (Tsongkapa) Lineage protector Dorje Shugden and five forms wrathful propitiations and confessional prayers and fulfillment of activities rites

By 10th Panchen Lama

So if Dorje Shugden is not the protector of Tsongkhapa's lineage and teachings then why would the Panchen Lama say so. Up until now I do not understand what is so wrong with having a special protector to protect the teachings of Tsongkhapa which is in fact the essence of all the different Vajrayana school's teachings... that means, the Sakya, Kagyu, Nyingma... hence what's so sectarian about that? To protect Tsongkhapa's teachings would be equal to protecting the best of all the other lineage teachings.

There is no conflict on human greed, power, ego that is polluting the Dharma and creating chaos amongst people. Very sad indeed.


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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2014, 10:09:36 AM »
This is a landmark discovery, a proof that all of us should be proud of and show to as many people as possible. This little prayer transcends just a mere praise but becomes a scriptural proof of Dorje Shugden's authenticity and benefit. This proof adds a sizeable recognition of Dorje Shugden's true nature and ability to bring benefit to practitioners.

With the deepest respect, it is time to drown out the Dalai Lama's rhetorics against Dorje Shugden and we have plenty of good explanations from across the greatest lamas like Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche (the previous incarnation), Lama Yeshe, Gonsar Rinpoche and now, the great Panchen Lama, which had been a mutual student and master of the Dalai Lama, thus an equal in stature and attainments, no less. This adds weight to the authenticity of Dorje Shugden's nature, identity, lineage and practice.



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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2014, 01:43:56 PM »
As mentioned in a previous comment in the forum the 4th Panchen Lama is was the teacher to both Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen and Dalai Lama, which means the Panchen lama was the teacher to both Manjushri and Avalokiteshvara.

One needs to be the calibre of the previous Trijang Rinpoche to be able to handle the mantle of the teacher for HHDL or Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen, want to see what level a person like Trijang Lama reached read the text below   
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/downloads/texts/download-kyabje-trijang-dorjechangs-autobiography/
 
Trijang Dorjechang was under the care of Dorje Shugden since he was young, and looking at the activities of Trijang Lama he never stopped teaching and giving initiations non stop. How much benefit did he do in his long illustrious life? A true mahasattva of our times and century. The Panchen Lama line of incarnation cannot be questioned, if it is questioned then it puts the Dalai Lama line of incarnations in question.  Then when this question stop, when all the gelug lamas are put into question?

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2014, 02:24:16 PM »
The 10th Panchen Lama is well loved by the people of Tibet and it is no doubt that he is highly educated and respected by everyone in Tibet. Furthermore he is the emanation of Buddha Amitabha.
The Panchen Lama even composed prayers for the protector Dorje Shugden. If a highly revered Lama also practices Dorje Shugden then it means that the protector is an Enlightened Being and not a spirit.

If the protector is good enough for the Panchen Lama to even writes prayers  to then is Dorje Shugden not good enough for others?

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2014, 10:34:37 PM »
The Panchen Lama is the highest ranking Lama after the Dalai Lama in the Gelugpa lineage of Tibetan Buddhism. And the Panchen Lama composed a prayer to Dorje Shugden. Even for the uninitiated to the practice, if they hear of this, the question will arise in their minds: a practice that is 'good enough' for the Panchen Lama is not good enough for CTA? Is this CTA's way of saying that they know better than the Panchen Lama???????

After reading this article, I am even more proud to be a Dorje Shugden practitioner.

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2014, 10:22:41 AM »
Hurray to the Panchen Lama. Why would the Panchen Lama (or even the Dalai Lama himself) writes a prayer to a spirit. Hence, the World Peace Protector, Manjushri Himself, the Great Protector Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being. All the great Lamas has recommended His practice. Now we discovered the Panchen Lama, who is Amitabha and equal to the Dalai Lama has written a prayer for HIM.

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2014, 09:56:54 AM »
Yes the Panchen Lama and the Dalai Lama are equal in status and each played a role of teacher and disciple relationship in the past history.  Panchen Lama ruled and spread Buddhadharma inside Tibet while the Dalai Lama governs and teaches outside Tibet.  Their relationship will continue to intertwine in Tibet in the future when the Chinese and the 11th Panchen Lama will recognise and tutor the 15th Dalai Lama. 

As Panchen Lama is a well known Shugden lineage master, in the future the Dalai Lama will inherit, practise and become the lineage holder too. 

The ban will be gone with the wind!

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2014, 04:48:13 AM »
The Panchen Lama who is an emanation of Amitabha is of equal status as the Dalai Lama. As a highly respected Lama he would not have composed a prayer to Dorje Shugden if Dorje Shugden is a spirit. Thus if Dorje Shugden is good for the Panchen Lama, why is it not good for others who are DS practitioners?

I hope the CTA will not be blinded by the truth. May the ban be lifted soon!

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2014, 04:57:21 AM »
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Joyous Signs accompanies the birth of Panchen Lama’s “Dorje Shugden’s *Kangsol”

The 10th Panchen Lama Lobsang Trinley Chokyi Gyaltsen Rinpoche an accomplished master of Sutra and Tantra has written volumes of commentaries and sadhanas which are still widely used in Tibet today. One such powerful composition is the ritual of propitiating the great protector Dorje Shugden.

In the preface of this sadhana, it says that the Panchen Rinpoche have just commissioned a new painting of the five lineages of Dorje Shugden. Acharya Lobsang Jangchub and the Panchen Rinpoche both agreed that there is a need to have a shorter version of prayer for exhortation of activities from the protector.

Upon the request of Acharya Lobsang Jangchub, Panchen Rinpoche immediately wrote this prayer of the abbreviated form of Dorje Shugden’s Kangsol and named it “Manjunatha’s (Tsongkapa) Lineage protector Dorje Shugden and five forms wrathful propitiations and confessional prayers and fulfilment of activities rites” or “Melodious sound of Accomplishment of the Four Activities” for short.

Upon the completion of this prayer, he personally saw signs and had strong feelings that Dorje Shugden have been working hard to protect the Buddha Dharma in general and especially the lineage of Jamphel Nyingpo (Lama Tsongkhapa). He saw signs especially that the time has come for Dorje Shugden to show his miraculous powers.

True to his identity as a direct incarnation of Khedrup Je who studied under the great Lama Tsongkhapa himself, the Panchen Rinpoche also showed his mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.

The Panchen Rinpoche also mentioned that he was filled with happiness and bliss throughout the duration of writing this sadhana. The Panchen Rinpoche signed off at the end of the composition with both his official name and also his ordination name, Tenzin Trinley Jigme Choje Wangchuk which endorses the validity of this piece of work.
This sadhana was written in his own palace in Tashi Lhunpo in the Hall of Clear light and bliss.

We wish to share this important and exciting detail of this composition with everyone so that all who see this can benefit and may the auspiciousness of Dorje Shugden be with everyone!

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http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/dharma-readings/10th-panchen-rinpoche-announces-visions-of-dorje-shugden/


If this is what the Panchen Lama can see and can composed and can feel about Dorje Shugden, even sealed the prayers with both his official official name for validity then I believe we can safely TRUST we are on the right mind and path.

The Panchen Lama also personally saw signs and had strong feelings that Dorje Shugden have been working hard to protect the Buddha Dharma! So what he saw fake signs? He is faking is?

So now what Dalai Lama? Will the Dalai Lama refute, reject and say Panchen Lama is wrong also, wow so daring, so brave, so arrogant? If the Dalai Lama dares to say this... then we can say with all due respect He is wrong. It just cannot be and totally ridiculous and a great defamation to start accusing and saying all these high beings and Lamas are wrong and and only the Dalai Lama is right? Cannot be!

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2014, 04:10:39 PM »
The 10th Panchen Lama is highly respected in Tibet. He is equal to the Dalai Lama in terms of spiritual attainments. His prayer to Lord Dorje Shugden is proof that he propitiated Dorje Shugden as an enlightened Protector who is worthy of worship. Because of this, many Tibetans and non-Tibetans who respect the Panchen Lama will regard Dorje Shugden as enlightened and will see no harm in the practice. Those who propitiate Dorje Shugden will definitely benefit from the practice. The high lamas cannot be wrong! The 10th Panchen Lama cannot be wrong!

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Re: 10th Panchen Lama writes Prayer to Dorje Shugden
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2014, 09:54:13 PM »
The Panchen Lamas are the spiritual equal of the Dalai Lamas and this an undeniable fact. That the 10th Panchen Lama should so revere Dorje Shugden is not surprising and in fact many Panchen Lamas in the past had very close relationships with the Protector.

In addition and quite importantly, Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen's teacher was the very first lama to hold the Panchen title, Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen and it was said that Panchen Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen was especially close to Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen who arose as Dorje Shugden.

For the Dalai Lama to say that Shugden practitioners are demon worshippers would mean that the Panchen Lamas were also demon worshippers. And since the Panchen line goes all the way back to Khedrub Je, that also infers that Khedrub Je too engaged in satanic practices. Why then would the Dalai Lama continue to use texts that Khedrub Je composed for the Kalachakra empowerment.

If the Dalai Lama is right about Dorje Shugden, he would also have studied very important texts composed by yet another in Dorje Shugden's
demonic" lineage, i.e. Panchen Sonam Drakpa.