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Tenzin Gyatso

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Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« on: May 27, 2012, 11:57:18 PM »
An extraordinary power struggle is tearing apart a Buddhist community in England.

While scouring the headlines for stories that might fit on Wildmind’s blog under the “news” category, I came across the intriguing headline “Dispute closes Buddhist centre,” discussing problems at the Maitreya Buddhist Center of the New Kadampa Tradition, or NKT, in Bexhill in East Sussex.

Unfortunately both newspapers that carried the story had removed the article. But a friend came to the rescue by pointing me toward Google’s cache of the story, and someone on Facebook sent me a link to a blog which presents one side of the dispute (read the blog from the bottom up).

First, a bit of background. The NKT were founded by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso, and they’re one of the largest Buddhist movements in the UK. Probably in terms of the number of centers they have, they are the absolute largest, although some of the “centers” are no more than rooms rented for an evening class. They have a strong expansionist policy.
 
The NKT is also famous for the “Dorje Shugden Controversy,” which is, to my mind, a rather weird dispute about a Tibetan Deity. Dorje Shugden is a deity who has been worshipped in Tibetan Buddhism since the 1700s. However, the Fourteenth Dalai Lama came to the conclusion that Shugden is not an enlightened being but is a worldly figure, and he first spoke out against his worship and then issued a ban on the practice. Since Geshe Kelsang Gyatso is a firm believer in Shugden, this caused a bitter dispute between the NKT and the Dalai Lama. This puts the NKT in the unfortunate position of being opposed to one of the most popular and revered figures in the world.

This particular story, however, has nothing at all to do with the Dorje Shugden dispute, which is a phenomenon I find weird (it’s a dispute over a figure I consider to be purely imaginary). It seems to have to do more with tensions between an individual, and legally autonomous, local center of the NKT, and the central organization itself, to the point where the central NKT is attempting a takeover. Whether or not they have good reason to do that I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem that they have the legal right to do so, if indeed the local centers are constituted as independent charities with their own boards of trustees.

Bearing in mind that we only have one side of the story presented here, the Maitreya Buddhist Centre, which is a charity registered under English law and with its own board of trustees, ended up with a resident teacher, Kelsang Chodor, who made organizational decisions that were unpopular with the board. A teacher who was asked to stop teaching refused to do so, and when Chodor bypassed the trustees in some of his decision making he refused to meet with them. The newspaper article outlines the background and explains the build-up of the conflict:

A volunteer at the Maitreya Buddhist Centre claims “a traumatic and bitter dispute” has left this former haven of peace changed forever.

Now the building in Sea Road is locked with no sign of when it will be opened again.
 
Andrew Durling helped set up the meditation centre having been at the start of New Kadampa Tradition meditation classes in Bexhill.
 
He was one of the trustees when the charity was registered and was responsible for the oversight of administration.
 
The centre became established and thrived with up to 50 people a week attending regular meditation classes led by resident teacher Lam-ma and other teachers she appointed.
 
However since she retired there has been a breakdown in the relationship between NKT and the centre’s management team, and from there Andrew and others have struggled to reach agreement with the head office based in Cumbria.

One of the trustees claims that the central NKT tried to replace the board of trustees, which would seem to be an illegal course of action:

The Charity Commission has now replied to the submission made to it by the charity trustees of Maitreya Buddhist Centre many weeks ago. The key element of that reply was that the attempts by NKT head office back at the beginning of March to remove the existing trustees of the centre and to replace them with trustees of the NKT’s own choosing was invalid and a breach of the centre’s own constitution

As the newspaper article puts it, “This appears to have become a struggle for control between a handful of volunteers and the umbrella organization which has more than 1,000 branches throughout the country.”

The blog also alleges that the NKT made “repeated threats of litigation” against the center.

From an organizational point of view I find this fascinating, partly because the organization I’m part of (Triratna) is similarly constituted in such a way that individual centers are independent. But what’s difference we don’t have a “head office” that could attempt a takeover. The most that could happen if a center were, for example, to go off the rails, is that the center could be told that they could no longer consider themselves to be affiliated with the parent organization. This actually happened once, with our Croydon center, where the Order member in charge of the situation there had created a kind of personality cult based on manipulation and bullying. He wasn’t the only person involved, because he had created a kind of “gang” that maintained control using the same techniques he himself employed. After attempts were made to correct the situation through dialogue, Sangharakshita, then founder of the Triratna Order, told the board of trustees that they would have to change their ways or cease being affiliated with the rest of the Triratna Community. And things did change as a result, with the ringleader leaving both the Croydon center and the Order.

The Bexhill situation is also interesting to me simply because it’s got to the point where a Buddhist center is no longer functional because of internal politics. That’s quite an extraordinary situation, and I’ve never head of that happening before. I’m not sensing a lot of dialog going on, which is unfortunate. Of course we don’t really know what’s going on. I’ve only seen one side of the story, and even if I was aware of both sides it would be impossible to be certain of the facts. Unfortunately, as the newspaper reports, “The head office was approached several times for a comment this week but none was forthcoming.”

The NKT has quite a traditional authoritarian structure (traditional for Tibetan Buddhism, anyway), where monks and nuns are basically told where to go and when. The NKT tries to be highly centralized, with the guru making decisions for the local centres, but the local centers are (as I understand it) legally separate entities, and so ultimately the guru (or the central organization) has limited legal control over them. That suggests a fragility in the NKT. Two ways to hold a local center in place when it has problems with the central organization are dialogue and authoritarianism. In this case the NKT seems to have adopted an authoritarian approach, through wielding power.

This following excerpt from the blog reveals a fascinating twist in how this power is being used:

A website purporting to be the official site of Maitreya Buddhist Centre, using the charity’s registration number and using its registered address, is currently active. However, this website is entirely without the sanction of the current legally valid trustees and management team of Maitreya Buddhist Centre, and is in direct conflict with the website that has always been the real official site of Maitreya Buddhist Centre, a site registered with the Charity Commission. This fraudulent website has therefore been reported to the relevant authorities, including the police and the Charity Commission.

Creating an alternative website for the center — one not controlled by the trustees — is an extreme step, or mis-step. It suggests that the NKT is struggling, within an authoritarian mind-set, to bring one of its centers back into the fold of central control.

This tactic, of setting up an alternative website, is one I’ve seen the NKT use before, albeit in a different form. Several years ago, members of a Buddhist Center in England were surprised to discover that the NKT had set up a website using the name of their center, which was not in any way NKT affiliated. This was almost certainly a breach of trademark law as well as a breach of UK charity law. It was also rather unpleasant — a kind of spiritual “phishing” attempt. The situation, fortunately, was resolved through dialog between the two organizations.

Back in the Bexhill power struggle, the blog also describes a new management team being sent in to wrest control from the elected trustees:

It appears that Maitreya Buddhist Centre has now been ‘taken over’ and a new management team is attempting to take charge of the premises. This is as flagrant a violation of charity and company law as it is possible to achieve …

Generally, if the board of trustees is properly constituted, then an outside entity has no legal standing to take over the center. Even the parent body — the NKT — can consider itself to be only the spiritual, rather than the legal, head of the center. [This may not be the case with the NKT, although I believe that charities are meant to be independent and not under central control.]

It seems that having opted for an authoritarian approach, the NKT is finding that it’s not a viable option, or at least not a straightforward one.

I take no pleasure in reporting these events. The situation must be intensely painful for all concerned, and I truly hope that dialog and trust can be restored.

I wonder, however, whether dialogue is now even possible in Bexhill now that the authoritarian path has been chosen? Trust is more easily broken than restored.

This pain is evident both in the comments of Andrew Durling, one of the trustees, who has been at the epicenter of the conflict:

 
“Whoever ‘wins’ (so called) the situation will find there is nothing left. I am as guilty as anyone else.
 
“This bold experiment in bringing buddhist meditation to Bexhill has, temporarily at least, failed.”
 
He said the community had been irrevocably split, with some backing him and others supporting NKT, and added: “It is anyone’s guess whether it will be alright.”

It’s also evident in the comments of a woman who had been attending classes at the Maitreya Centre:

“They have taken my place of worship away from me. It isn’t a proper buddhist centre anymore.”
 
She added: “It is just awful.
 
“I won’t go back there, it’s a mess. I am really sad. I want to say – how dare you do this[?]”

As the Buddha said, “Spiritual friendship is the whole of the spiritual life.” It’s worth remembering that as we witness this painful conflict.

source:

http://www.bodhipaksa.com/archives/dispute-closes-nkts-bexhill-buddhist-centre

the debate continues: http://maitreyabuddhistcentre.wordpress.com/news/



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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 11:10:09 AM »
Dear All Forum Members,

This news posted by TG comes as no surprise...using the forum for another HHDL point of view on any issue (with little or no substance to back up any claims made). This site if I may put it out there prides itself on presenting arguments from both sides of the debate (even contributors like yourself TG).

 ::) Really...As you have said this has nothing to do with the DS issue...So Why is it posted here?

Clearly you have time on your hands to spread idle gossip than practice any real Dharma - Actions definitely speak louder than words and sometimes - actions can have more meaning and results from unlikely sources that do not tell the whole world what they are doing? or have done?

This forum has clear rules on how to participate on this website, clearly you have no wish to participate respectfully  according to the rules of this website.

Many of us who participate on this website come from different backgrounds, ages, countries, vocations and support and work in our respective Dharma Organisations.

We all respect NKT for propitiating Tsongkhapa's Lineage and Protector and have posted a GKG Tribute on this site (for those that have not read yet - please check out).

ADMIN: or Other Forum Members:

I believe we would NOT report on another Dharma Organisations controversy or issues  on this FORUM? That clearly is sensationalist and clearly NOTHING to do with DS ISSUES: That we would allow this and not say anything beggars belief in any shape or form.

At the very least POSTS like this should come with a DISCLAIMER from like minded persons that respect the rules of the forum and post accordingly.

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION WHY WOULD DS.COM SUPPORT THIS POINT OF VIEW WHEN A TRIBUTE FOR GKG IS ON THIS SITE... :o

I humbly request that members continue to support this site for what it is, a resource for DS practitioners worldwide to be inspired to practice and support. ;)

xo



Tenzin Gyatso

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 11:26:01 AM »
Anything can can be discussed in a forum. NKT problems has everything to do with Shugden. NKT is one of the prominent groups which created disturbances in the plans of HHDL's wish to insure Tibetan Buddhism remains pure. The disturbances have stopped. They ran out of ammunition as truth was not on their side.

I simply copied an article to show you not all is well just because you worship the spirit Shugden. Nothing vulgar, rude or demeaning was posted.  :D

Do not have a forum just speaking from one-side of the Shugden spirit issue. Do not be afraid to explore other thoughts who are not supportive of Shugden. Keep your mind open.  :)

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 12:17:27 PM »
TG,

Thank you for the advice, actually I do keep an open mind on many issues...not just those on the net but on the ground also? Let me preface my comment with further clarification...I read this article long before it got pulled...

Lets just say that it's one thing to attribute everything to NKT problems because of the DS issue?

That's an easy way out when the article is from one-point of view (without the full facts).

That is the Disclaimer part that should be clearly NOTED to keep all minds OPEN or at the very least MINDFUL/ ACCEPTING of another point of view to look deeper.

The question I keep asking myself TG? (reading this post) Is this still idle gossip for your point of view without the full facts...to support your argument in the END.

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 01:08:27 PM »
TG,

Thank you for the advice, actually I do keep an open mind on many issues...not just those on the net but on the ground also? Let me preface my comment with further clarification...I read this article long before it got pulled...

Lets just say that it's one thing to attribute everything to NKT problems because of the DS issue?

That's an easy way out when the article is from one-point of view (without the full facts).

That is the Disclaimer part that should be clearly NOTED to keep all minds OPEN or at the very least MINDFUL/ ACCEPTING of another point of view to look deeper.

The question I keep asking myself TG? (reading this post) Is this still idle gossip for your point of view without the full facts...to support your argument in the END.

xo

In fact the vast majority of problems with NKT is the shugden issue.

If what we are discussing here is gossip, then everything in this forum is gossip. After all, what is the purpose of debate in the monasteries. One takes the side of proponent and the other as opponent of Buddhism. To understand both sides better. If we are sheltered by people who always have the same view as ourselves, it's hard to have a all around understanding of any issues.
 
I don't think I posted here for gossip purposes, more to show Shugden is harmful. Take heed.  :)

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 03:10:06 PM »
Penny for my thoughts...

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Bearing in mind that we only have one side of the story presented here, the Maitreya Buddhist Centre, which is a charity registered under English law and with its own board of trustees, ended up with a resident teacher, Kelsang Chodor, who made organizational decisions that were unpopular with the board. A teacher who was asked to stop teaching refused to do so, and when Chodor bypassed the trustees in some of his decision making he refused to meet with them. The newspaper article outlines the background and explains the build-up of the conflict:

Thats fine but if the centre and Kelsang Chodor want to carry on and use the NKT name to promote their activities, then they should abide by NKT rules. It seems hypocritical to me that they would want to use the NKT name, but not abide by NKT rules.

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A volunteer at the Maitreya Buddhist Centre claims “a traumatic and bitter dispute” has left this former haven of peace changed forever.

How dramatic ::)

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The NKT has quite a traditional authoritarian structure (traditional for Tibetan Buddhism, anyway), where monks and nuns are basically told where to go and when. The NKT tries to be highly centralized, with the guru making decisions for the local centres, but the local centers are (as I understand it) legally separate entities, and so ultimately the guru (or the central organization) has limited legal control over them. That suggests a fragility in the NKT. Two ways to hold a local center in place when it has problems with the central organization are dialogue and authoritarianism. In this case the NKT seems to have adopted an authoritarian approach, through wielding power.

Sorry but I dont feel its authoritarian. Otherwise, the traditional Tibetan monasteries are authoritarian... but how can that be when their strict rules have kept the Dharma alive for centuries? Its called the vinaya?

And theres nowt wrong with a centralised system. Whether or not a teacher legally controls every single centre, should not detract from the fact those centres and its students come under the teachers guidance and care. When they signed up to fall under the NKT umbrella, to benefit from NKT promotions and marketing, to benefit from Geshe-las teaching the same thing, from the same tradition and same lineage, suddenly the Board and Geshe-las instructions are wrong, but his teachings are correct?

Anyway, in the absence of legal control, NKTs strength can therefore only be measured by their Guru Devotion. And is their devotion so evidently missing in the centres, that they do not follow their Gurus instructions and instead view them as authoritarian?

For someone called Tenzin Gyatso, your opinion that authoritarianism and not Guru Devotion is the answer, strikes me as odd!

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 06:35:21 PM »
Taking advantage of this situation to blame Dorje Shugden practice is just shallow. But I'm glad, as it means DS practitioners are higher up on the ladder if one needs to use petty news such as this to put down our practice.

Power struggle happens EVERYWHERE.... it can easily happen in any other Dharma center. It even happens in the Vatican... so does that mean the Pope prays to Dorje Shugden? Now that would make an interesting piece of news!

NKT has thousands of meditation centers that are started by Geshe-la's students... well, not that I'm putting down anyone but the fact is, there ought to be one or two bad apples. It has nothing to do with Geshe-la's teachings, it has nothing to do with Dorje Shugden, it has nothing to do with lineage.... but it has everything to do with the "Human condition".

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 06:41:39 AM »
TG. You are spreading idle gossip simply by the fact that you do not have all the facts. Debating is based on facts and logic and not on assumptions and hearing one side of the story. A debate has two sides. If you get all the facts from both sides, then I will be interested.

We can also argue about all the negatives that has been going with the DL's organization and say the all is not well. That is a fact. Problems happens in all organizations be it worldly all spiritual because it is run by  humans who has karma and delusions. It is not surprising some problem happened in the NKT organization because it is so large and for 1 center out of 1000 it is a small and negligible statistic, I am sorry to say. It has certainly a better track record then DL's organizations. with due respect.

Just because NKT is connected to DS, you expect it to be perfect. Thank you for that expectation.

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Re: Dispute closes NKT’s Bexhill Buddhist centre
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 12:16:39 PM »
Oh well, it is rather funny for him to stoop to the level of fact finding. In fact, he should contribute more funny articles like these for us so that we have something to talk about here - his lack of intelligence when it comes to doing research and not getting his facts right about many things, as well as his selective vision on topics as well lack of knowledge of topics that he desperately tries to claim authority at.

It would be nice if he could spend his time to do some meditations or his sadhanas rather than looking for pointless information about centers who closed down and posting it here because one problematic center out of 1000+ over centers is quite low in terms of the ratio of problematic centers to centers who have been open successfully and are running successfully.

It is funny that he also chooses to disregard the rules to not bash other centers or even hint and says he cant post whatever that he wants. As an old adage that goes around on the net, you're free to post whatever you want, but at the same time we are also free to ban your membership and delete your posts. However, i wouldnt do that if i was the admin here as this guy is just too amusing to just be shut off.

I dont feel sad at all when I read this news because it shows that no matter where and what, there will always be problems here in samsara and those who choose to give up or choose to pursue it and see it from a worldly point of view will always be the people that will lose out in the end because they are focusing on the wrong things in life in the first place.