Author Topic: Dorje Shugden mentioned in the news  (Read 10290 times)

diamond girl

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Re: Dorje Shugden mentioned in the news
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2011, 06:11:31 AM »
Hmm...  I think either the journalist know the issues prevalent within the Tibetan community from a superficial level or he knows much more but choses not to write any more about those issues because he wants  to focus on the vilifying the Dalai Lama. Some of the points like recognizing Steven Seagal as a Tulku and accepting donations from the Doomsday cult leader was not inherently bad. Steven Seagal was definitely not recognized for money, if he did, the Dalai Lama would have recognized Richard Gere as a Tulku too and gain lots more.

With regards to the Doomsday cult leader, I am sure the Dalai Lama didn't know the Doomsday cult leader was going to kill so many people when he accepted the donation. Once he knew of what he was doing, he probably had already allocated the money for good use, perhaps the only Dharma the cult leader would have done in that lifetime before entering the 3 lower realms. How kind the Dalai Lama is to plant seeds.

 

Perhaps the Dalai Lama did know of the potential harm that would be created and by accepting the cult leader's donation, it was the only way to help create some merits and like you said - plant seeds - for a future rebirth.

On the other hand, I have read that it is not good for Sangha to accept donations from impure livelihoods - like if you work in a slaughter house or a casino or a nightclub which sells alcohol. Wouldn't the same apply then - that their donations would help to repair some negative karma they have accumulated from their impure livelihoods?

Like all Bodhisattvas, the Dalai Lama may have accepted the cult leader's donation to create a karmic link with him for him to benefit him in the future lives.  But for the highly attained Sangha, there is no purity or impurity, it is but what is beneficial.

Thank you Big Uncle, Wisdom Being and Icy for this post.

Yes I have heard about Sangha accepting donations from "unclean" sources. Like what was said, I also learnt that people with such "unclean" methods of making the money should not be discriminated and not be given some path of salvation. What I understand is that the immense negative karma has already been collected and going to the 3 lower realms is quite destined. When Sangha, out of pure compassion receives these donations, and does good with the money to benefit others like building temples, statues, etc. this will help collect merits for the "unclean" donor, cult or not. So, eventhough they are destined for the 3 lower realms, perhaps they will not stay there too long. Of course, to possibly reverse the destiny to the lower realms, these donors will need to do much much more than donate financially. Like the story of .... Milarepa.

Buddhism is truly so kind and compassionate without any discrimination!

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Re: Dorje Shugden mentioned in the news
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2011, 04:42:12 PM »
@diamond u got an interesting point there, if Marpa saw Milarepa as a killer and evil person and would not teach him the dharma then MIlarepa would not achieved have achieved enlightenment whatsoever. Well Marpa also is not an ordinary person to able to get the best out of his main student Milarepa.

I think the more skilled a lama is the more ways they can benefit beings one way or another. If buddha felt Angulimala was so evil having killed 999 people I mean thats a lot of people , then Angulimala would have descended to the three lower realms.


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Re: Dorje Shugden mentioned in the news
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 04:40:32 PM »
Let's look on the bright side, His Holiness may manifest conflicts in opposed with Lord Dorje Shugden's practise but it is also because of His Holiness that the Dorje Shugden ban issue has caught people's attention, people and medias all around the world. May the ban be lifted very smoothly and swiftly.

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Re: Dorje Shugden mentioned in the news
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2015, 05:18:57 PM »
Yes the controversy has created much awareness on the Dorje Shugden ban and has allowed many people to be introduced to Dorje Shugden these are tangible benefits of the Dorje Shudgen controversy.

It is the hope of everyone that the Dorje Shugden ban be lifted without anymore untoward situations or occurrences.

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Re: Dorje Shugden mentioned in the news
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2015, 03:21:18 AM »
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Let's look on the bright side, His Holiness may manifest conflicts in opposed with Lord Dorje Shugden's practise but it is also because of His Holiness that the Dorje Shugden ban issue has caught people's attention, people and medias all around the world.

By the same token, the horrendous massacres recently perpetrated by Islamic State terrorists against Yazidis and Christian Assyrians in Iraq brought a lot of media's attention to these little known peoples, and therefore you should consider such massacres shining bright.

Also, the destruction of the Bamiyan Giant Buddhas in Afghanistan by Taliban terrorists  in Afghanistan brought a lot of media attention to those statues, which were little known by the general public, and therefore you should consider such destruction blazing bright.

In the same way, the kidnapping and murdering of thousands of children by Boko Haram terrorists in Africa brought a lot of media attention to those forgotten children, and therefore such children should be very grateful for having achieved international fame.

According to you, the suffering of others is very bright, because it brings some media attention to the religious label you feel attached to. You see Dorje Shugden as a Moloch insatiably wanting human sacrifice in order to increase his own fame and power.

But this is just your own depraved projection. Dorje Shugden is a buddha, and does not need mundane recognition, let alone through human sacrifice. This is the business of your beloved mentor, the evil dalie. Your attachment to the evil dalie does fit your depraved belief in human sacrifice.