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vajralight

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Shugden practitioners not welcome
« on: May 14, 2019, 09:44:59 AM »
Happy wesak.... :(

https://www.facebook.com/FPMTLDC/posts/2149365925355071

Shugden practitioners may not take part in any of Losang Dragpa Buddhist Societies activities.




Tenzin K

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Re: Shugden practitioners not welcome
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 08:42:27 PM »
This is how Tibetan leadership discriminate and create separation for their people which affect the Tibetan Buddhism around the world. I don't see any dharmic reasoning here but just creating suffering, wrong view and broken Samaya with their guru.

Look at this centre where they ban Shugden practitioners to join their event but invited a sex offender to do prayer and teaching on the event. Shugden practitioner has not created any harmful act to anyone but being ban, where else Dagri Rinpoche a sex offender which being custody by the police in India for sexual harassment and he has been doing so since 10 years ago. This is how polluted FPMT and LDC is.

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Re: Shugden practitioners not welcome
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 12:32:46 AM »
Another evidence of how Dorje Shugden people are being targeted and discriminated. Checked out this funny VBCM place and guess what I found? A whole lot more of discrimination...

But look at what one funny fake account with the name Nicole Sia said to another and the debate here https://www.facebook.com/ONEvbcm/posts/10156597455989335?comment_id=10156600645849335&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

A fake face with a fake strawberry trying to deflect from the real issue really needs to wake up. She is 100% a fake but she is pointing at Alison Ong but what she is trying to do is distract people from the main issue and cover up. Can't believe these people are siding with sexual abuser lamas. They really sound so stupid especially when you read the reply back to her, the girl gave it back to Nicole real good.

Tenzin K

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Re: Shugden practitioners not welcome
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2019, 11:04:17 AM »
Not that Shugden people need to go to LDC but why should LDC discriminate people different belief? If Buddhism is about compassion where is compassion in this context?

If Shugden people who have not create any trouble to anyone are not allowed to any of LDC spiritual event then why Dagri Rinpoche who is a sex offender invited to give a blessing? He has a record for the past 10 years and why he's still allowed to look for his victim in Malaysia? LDC is like feeding the predator. Scary!

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Re: Shugden practitioners not welcome
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2019, 06:49:52 AM »
Tibetan community is a very weird community. They cover up criminals and let those who have committed crimes to get away with it. People like Dagri Rinpoche has harmed so many women but he was allowed to continue to harm more women.

But on the other hand, Dorje Shugden followers have not committed any crimes, high DS lamas have contributed so much to the preservation and spreading of Tibetan Buddhism but no one seems to appreciate that. The Tibetan leadership segregate Dorje Shugden followers and encourage the Tibetans to outcast them.

Tibetans have the reputation of following blindly, only going after their own interest at the expense of others. They don't feel there is a need to work hard because they always get free money from the west. Losing their country didn't make Tibetans more resilience but it made them become lazier.

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Re: Shugden practitioners not welcome
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 10:31:37 AM »
Tibetan community is a very weird community. They cover up criminals and let those who have committed crimes to get away with it. People like Dagri Rinpoche has harmed so many women but he was allowed to continue to harm more women.

But on the other hand, Dorje Shugden followers have not committed any crimes, high DS lamas have contributed so much to the preservation and spreading of Tibetan Buddhism but no one seems to appreciate that. The Tibetan leadership segregate Dorje Shugden followers and encourage the Tibetans to outcast them.

Tibetans have the reputation of following blindly, only going after their own interest at the expense of others. They don't feel there is a need to work hard because they always get free money from the west. Losing their country didn't make Tibetans more resilience but it made them become lazier.

It is strange, huh? Why are the cases of sexual molestations being covered up when they are so harmful to the victims? These are done on the basis of violation of the trusts given to the perpetrator and it destroys so much. So shameful how those in the know condone Dagri Rinpoche's actions with silence.

Yet, on the other hand, they are so vocal about a peaceful authentic lineage practice of Dorje Shugden and imposed so many negative conditions on his practitioners, such as physical threats, abuse, segregation, persecution, denial of basic amenities, discrimination, etc. They even break up families over their differences in religious beliefs. Everyone was peaceful until the Tibetan Leaders and extremists started the ban to divert public attention from their failure of promise for their people's return to Tibet.

Really skewered views and such hypocrites!

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Re: Shugden practitioners not welcome
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2019, 03:47:04 AM »
What do Malaysians have to do with Tibetan politics? And what rights do this so-called council have to police the Vajrayana Buddhist centres and practitioners in Malaysia? None of them is qualified to teach and have the necessary knowledge about General Buddhism, let alone to be a council to decide and guide the different lineages of Tibetan Buddhists in Malaysia. This group of people are very arrogant and they set up this council to get more resources for their own centres. They are obnoxious in covering up the truth, including sexual misconduct of Buddhist monks such as Shi Zhao Liang and now they openly support the LDC FPMT for insisting on inviting a proven sex abuser Dagri "Rinpoche". See these memes floating on the internet. The VBCM is nothing but a group of greedy and power-hungry individuals who are interested only in protecting their own centres for their personal use. The committee members also do closed-door elections to make sure the same people are on the committee and rotate their roles to ensure all benefits such as monetary gained can be secured for their own use. They should be closed.