Author Topic: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame  (Read 1329 times)

Lawrence L

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Have you guys read this?
Read this! http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dalai-lamas-secretary-pulled-his-video-out-of-shame/

WOW!! It is funny to see Lobsang Jinpa, the secretary to Dalai Lama pulled his video down, trying to erase the mistake he did in the past. He can pulled down all he wants, but the fact that he discriminated people based on religion is not going to change. The whole world knows this, and he certainly knows this, that is why he feels so shameful, to the extend of pulling down his video of speaking against Dorje Shugden practitioners, hoping no new people find out what he did in the past.



This secretary to the Dalai Lama not only spoke against Dorje Shugden practitioners in the past, he also  bribed people to speak against Dorje Shugden, prevented monks who pray to Dorje Shugden from receiving their Geshe degrees, also directly involved in prolonging the suffering of Tibetans who refused to give up their practice of Dorje Shugden.

His pulling down of the video sends two important message:

1) It is a victory to the Dorje Shugden practitioners because eventually, Lobsang Jinpa admitted he was wrong by pulling down the video. Lobsang Jinpa is indirectly telling his peers and the world that it is wrong to discriminate people based on their religion.

2) Lobsang Jinpa didn't came out with the conclusion above by himself. It is the political change within the Tibetan community - the rising of the young political heroes like Lukar Jam and Tenpa Yarphel who fight for real democracy and unity of the Tibetans, has pushed the older leaders like Lobsang Jinpa to change and if he doesn't change the way he does things, he will be changed, as the younger Tibetans actually see through the reason why older leaders like Lobsang Jinpa and the Central Tibetan Administration banned Dorje Shugden practice.

All I pray for Tibet is a peaceful Tibet Spring to take place as soon as possible. It is the right time to push away the feudalism and the older leaders like Lobsang Jinpa should apologise and go!


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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 02:39:57 PM »
This former secretary Lobsang Jinpa to the Dalai Lama is a big shame in the Tibetan communities. People don't like him and know he is very political and self-serving. He really was corrupt. He was asked to leave his post as secretary in order to not further embarrass the Dalai Lama. It is the hushed up truth.

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 08:20:57 PM »
From the action of Lobsang Jinpa, we know that the people in Tibetan leadership is speaking against the Dorje Shugden ban solely because they are part of the leadership. They have to appear to be supportive of what the lseadership is doing even though they do not agree with it.

As soon as they are out of the Tibetan leadership, they will try to undo what they did and hope that the public will forget about it. That is why Lobsang Jinpa removed the video as soon as he left CTA because he is afraid that the public found out that he did something so nasty.  He did that to save his face.

Everything about the Tibetan government is about face. Whenever they go, they are so boastful of themselves and talk like they China is waiting to have a dialogue with them to arrange them to go back to Tibet. However, the reality is that China is no longer wanted to establish a connection with the Tibetans especially His Holiness the Dalai Lama. They should really humble down and not act so arrogantly.

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 12:29:19 AM »
He is a possible reason for the removal of the offensive You Tube video.

We know that the Dalai Lama wants to return to Tibet.

To do so he must convince the Chinese that he has changed.

First he has recognized their Panchen Lama.

He must also change his stance about Dorje Shugden being evil since China accepts the practice of Dorje Shuden.

The Dalai Lama can do so by blaming the Nechung Oracle for giving a false trance about Dorje Shugden in the past.

He can blame the spirit "Nyatrul" aka Nyari Tulku for possessing the Nechung Oracle and not the spirit of Dorje Drakden.

Here is a link to Tsem Tulku's article about "Nyatrul" possessing the Nechung Oracle.

https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/the-spirit-nyatrul-magic-mischief-and-misery.html

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 09:53:22 PM »
The only reason to pull out the video is obvious. He is just another follower of the CTA Dorje Shugden/Chinese rhetoric that should end. 60 years have passed, no results were obtained by the CTA. Tibetans in exile India remain stateless and no more than a bunch of sweater sellers. Tibetans elsewhere let go of their identity and their heritage. The Tibetan language is no longer learned and used in many Tibetan communities around the world. Tibetan Buddhism has become a hotbed for sex scandals and allegations. The Dalai Lama is not giving private 1-1 audience anymore and retreating more and more from the public scene. Lobsang Sangay continues to travel to look good and keeping his affair with Dhadon Sharling in Canada. Penpa Tsering continues to be drunk, human trafficker, pervert and etc. Lukar Jam and Jamyang Norbu are nowhere to be heard. The rangzen scene is no longer relevant. Everything is falling apart for the Tibetan leadership because their focus is to use Dorje Shugden as a scapegoat for all the mistakes they have done. Time to wake up and pulling the video perhaps is a good start!

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2019, 04:24:24 PM »
I think more and more people realized what they have done for Shugden ban is wrong. After 20 years everyone should check the result and question CTA. The ban has created so much unnecessary suffering and CTA should give an explanation of why implemented for 20 years but we don't see any difference in term Tibetan cause? Why CTA spend so much money, time, effort on Dorje Shugden ban but we can't see any positive result that bring Tibetan back to Tibet?

So now, who is telling lie here?


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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2019, 06:06:18 PM »
It is the Dalai Lama who caused this ban and not the CTA.

Wake up and grow up.

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2019, 08:27:35 PM »
The only reason to pull out the video is obvious. He is just another follower of the CTA Dorje Shugden/Chinese rhetoric that should end. 60 years have passed, no results were obtained by the CTA. Tibetans in exile India remain stateless and no more than a bunch of sweater sellers. Tibetans elsewhere let go of their identity and their heritage. The Tibetan language is no longer learned and used in many Tibetan communities around the world. Tibetan Buddhism has become a hotbed for sex scandals and allegations. The Dalai Lama is not giving private 1-1 audience anymore and retreating more and more from the public scene. Lobsang Sangay continues to travel to look good and keeping his affair with Dhadon Sharling in Canada. Penpa Tsering continues to be drunk, human trafficker, pervert and etc. Lukar Jam and Jamyang Norbu are nowhere to be heard. The rangzen scene is no longer relevant. Everything is falling apart for the Tibetan leadership because their focus is to use Dorje Shugden as a scapegoat for all the mistakes they have done. Time to wake up and pulling the video perhaps is a good start!

Nice summary of all the mess that the Tibetan government had created. The Tibetan leadership needs to be replaced entirely with new people who really fight for the welfare of Tibetan in Exile. Most of the leaders now in the leadership are petty, selfish people who only think of themselves. They have wasted 60 precious years of the Tibetans by giving them false hope that they will eventually return to a free Tibet.

Tibetan cause is a dead cause because there is no way for Tibetans to be able to convince China to hand them back Tibet. Even His Holiness the Dalai Lama saw the truth and urged Tibetans to go for autonomy in China instead of total independence. Tibetans should trust their god-king instead of keeping the Rangzen movement alive and waste time and resources.

Lobsang Jinpa's action is a good indication that they actually are ashamed of what they are doing or they are fearful of the consequences of their actions. When they are part of the leadership, they have no choice but to follow what has been set. Once they are out of the leadership, they try to remove their bad history to save themselves.


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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2019, 08:49:41 PM »
This very typical of the people who work in the CTA. When they are in power, they abuse it. In order to be politically correct and to please the other members of the CTA, they will do whatever it takes even though it means they have to lie. A very good example is Lobsang Jinpa.

Lobsang Jinpa was lying in the videos, but as the truth about Dorje Shugden is revealing, he has to remove the evidence of him being a liar. He knows by now the CTA is going to collapse soon due to corruption and deception, it will be wise to remove all the evidence of him involving in the smear campaign on Dorje Shugden. He does not want people to condemn him and he probably hopes people will slowly forget about his involvement in Dorje Shugden controversy if he removes these videos.

However, no one can escape the law of karma. Lobsang Jinpa can remove all the videos he wants but there will still be traces left behind. He has to pay for what he has done. Anyone who is associated with the CTA will not get anything good at the end since the CTA is not doing anything good to anyone except for themselves.

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2019, 11:26:57 AM »
Ohhh is the video hosted on any other location? 

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2019, 06:30:49 PM »
This very typical of the people who work in the CTA. When they are in power, they abuse it. In order to be politically correct and to please the other members of the CTA, they will do whatever it takes even though it means they have to lie. A very good example is Lobsang Jinpa.

Lobsang Jinpa was lying in the videos, but as the truth about Dorje Shugden is revealing, he has to remove the evidence of him being a liar. He knows by now the CTA is going to collapse soon due to corruption and deception, it will be wise to remove all the evidence of him involving in the smear campaign on Dorje Shugden. He does not want people to condemn him and he probably hopes people will slowly forget about his involvement in Dorje Shugden controversy if he removes these videos.

However, no one can escape the law of karma. Lobsang Jinpa can remove all the videos he wants but there will still be traces left behind. He has to pay for what he has done. Anyone who is associated with the CTA will not get anything good at the end since the CTA is not doing anything good to anyone except for themselves.

You hit the nail right on the head! >> Anyone who is associated with the CTA will not get anything good at the end since the CTA is not doing anything good to anyone except for themselves.<< CTA is just a bunch of self-serving corrupt opportunists. They were never about the Tibet Cause at all. If they actually were, Tibetans would have gone back years ago and not still live as refugees in India. CTA is an EPIC FAILURE that they had to pin the blame on Dorje Shugden.

People like Lobsang Jinpa will swing whichever way that benefits him the most. With him pulling out the video, it could mean that:
1) He has seen the light (ie Dorje Shugden is not a demon but a Dharma Protector) and decides to pull out the video.
2) CTA is in ruins that it's better to cut his losses.

Either way, it's good news for Shugden people.
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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2019, 07:05:42 PM »
The CTA is just like a massive black hole for the Tibetans in exile. They suck up all the money, resources, privileges from their own people and gives nothing back. They literally give Tibetan no hope and even if they did, it is false hope that further deludes the Tibetans in exile.

An example will be their promise to bring the Tibetans back to Tibet several times in the past and now long overdue. Tibetans have been saving their money and not spending it in India. It is obvious that they are eager to return to Tibet. However, they are disappointed again and again when the Tibetan government break their promises again and again.

Tibetans in exile are so disappointed in their own government that they are willing to travel to a new country as a refugee and start their life all over again. Many Tibetans in exile have since migrated to western countries or joined India as a citizen. Soon, there will be no Tibetans in exile left for the Tibetan government to exist in India anymore.

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2019, 09:02:31 PM »
This very typical of the people who work in the CTA. When they are in power, they abuse it. In order to be politically correct and to please the other members of the CTA, they will do whatever it takes even though it means they have to lie. A very good example is Lobsang Jinpa.

Lobsang Jinpa was lying in the videos, but as the truth about Dorje Shugden is revealing, he has to remove the evidence of him being a liar. He knows by now the CTA is going to collapse soon due to corruption and deception, it will be wise to remove all the evidence of him involving in the smear campaign on Dorje Shugden. He does not want people to condemn him and he probably hopes people will slowly forget about his involvement in Dorje Shugden controversy if he removes these videos.

However, no one can escape the law of karma. Lobsang Jinpa can remove all the videos he wants but there will still be traces left behind. He has to pay for what he has done. Anyone who is associated with the CTA will not get anything good at the end since the CTA is not doing anything good to anyone except for themselves.

Lobsang Jinpa is pulling down the videos of his speech because he sees that Dorje Shugden ban is not going to last any longer cos truth prevails. He will look very stupid when that happens. He probably still want to be in the political scene so it is better to remove evidence of him being so radical against a belief. Further more, what he said about Dorje Shugden was baseless.

The CTA is not a reliable government, for their own benefits, they always tell lies. Dorje Shugden ban is the biggest lie they have told just to distract people from looking at how bad a government they are. They have made so many promises to the Tibetans but they have not fulfilled any. They misuse the fund given to them by the international donors but, they have not achieved anything of significance.

The CTA is too arrogant to look at themselves and try to make improvement so they can be an effective and efficient government. All they think of is how to get more free money and get rich without working hard. Their mentality is still very backward like in the old days. They should realise by now soon there will be no need for CTA as more and more Tibetans are leaving the exile community and people are losing confidence in them.

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2019, 01:28:15 PM »
I am amazed at how thick-skinned the Tibetan government can be when it comes to lying to get benefits for themselves. The Dorje Shugden ban is the biggest lie that that is amazingly fooled most of the Tibetan community. The practice is 400 years old and there was not a single problem with the practice until 20 years ago.

CTA gave a lot of reasons why Dorje Shugden is a demon and how the practice was not reliable. Anyone that has some basic knowledge of Tibetan Buddhism will be able to know that all the reasons that CTA provides are illogical and makes no sense.  However, due to the ignorance of the general Tibetan population and their faith in His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Dorje Shugden people are prosecuted.

Luckily, the truth can never be hidden and more and more people know about it now. Hence, the effect of Dorje Shugden ban has lessened so much compared to 20 years ago and people are not taking the ban seriously anymore. Hence, it is just a matter of time where the ban will be lifted or nobody talks about it anymore. Let's pray for the time to come faster and the prosecuted of Dorje Shugden practitioner can end sooner.

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Re: OOPPPSSS!Dalai Lama’s Secretary Pulled His Video out of Shame
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2019, 01:38:28 PM »
It was said that Lobsang Jinpa was very corrupted and nobody in the Tibetan community likes him. He becomes a politician because he wanted to use his position to get power and money. This is the agenda of a typical Tibetan politician. Even Lobsang Sangay also admitted he didn't know what he wanted to achieve when he was contesting the presidential role.

Since everyone wants to be in the Dalai Lama's good book and so their benefit will be protected, it is not surprised Lobsang Jinpa was making lots of negative comments and speech on Dorje Shugden. Lamas like Lama Zopa, Sakya Trizin, ex-abbot of Gaden Monastery, etc. all said negative things about Dorje Shugden before.

Since Lobsang Jinpa knows he has been telling lies and the truth is slowly revealing itself, he won't want to look bad when the truth is out. Thus, he is not hesitating to remove the videos he has put up before. Unfortunately, he has already had a bad reputation. By removing the video, he will not gain any popularity among the Dorje Shugden community.