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Who is superior?
« on: August 02, 2018, 05:09:12 AM »
Is the Ganden Tripa or Dalai Lama superior?  If it's the Ganden Tripa, why couldn't the 101st one couldn't do anything about the Shugden problem?

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Re: Who is superior?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2018, 02:28:45 AM »
Dear Questionable,

Have you seen this postcard? Postcard: H.H. 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal

This is a very good question. It seems that even though the Gaden Tripa is the head, the Dalai Lama and the  Central Tibetan Administration have overriden his authority.


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Re: Who is superior?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 12:55:03 PM »
From the picture in the previous post, it is clear that the noble 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal is superior, since his body is fully erect and he looks resolutely straightforward, whereas the fake evil dalie, as an inferior spirit, cannot prevent submissively bending his head and body to the superior being.

One might also observe the noble 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal's left hand's spread fingers, in an obvious attitude of paralyzing and subduing the evil spirit and his malignant influence.

Besides, while the fake evil dalie's false smile denotes his hypocrisy and vassalage, the noble 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal displays a noble, sovereign attitude inferior to none.

Bottom line, the noble 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal is a worthy successor of Je Tsongkhapa, whereas the crooked impostor dalie is nothing but a vulgar charlatan.

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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2018, 06:11:07 AM »
Adding to the previous answer, one cannot help seeing the way the evil dalie's both hands anxiously hold the noble 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal's firm, stable, and compassionate right hand, clearly demonstrating the former's panic about his impending fall to the lower realms, and his desperate attempt to save himself through reliance on the Arya's support.

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Re: Who is superior?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2018, 09:31:58 PM »
Adding to the previous answer, one cannot help seeing the way the evil dalie's both hands anxiously hold the noble 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal's firm, stable, and compassionate right hand, clearly demonstrating the former's panic about his impending fall to the lower realms, and his desperate attempt to save himself through reliance on the Arya's support.
Are you aware that the Dalai Lama chooses the Hansen Tripa? Also, using conservative fundamentalist conspiracist logic of a minor finger motion indicating something is just plain ridiculous.  You mean to tell me that Tsongkhapa was wrong on the Dalai Lamas being an incarnation of Chenrezig?

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 02:46:16 AM »
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Are you aware that the Dalai Lama chooses the Hansen Tripa?

Never heard about the “Hansen Tripa”. Is he the Tripa of Hansen, Idaho? Or maybe the Tripa of Hansen, Winsconsin? Please share with the rest of us some more details about this intriguing “Hansen Tripa”, and why he is chosen by the evil dalie.

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Also, using conservative fundamentalist conspiracist logic of a minor finger motion indicating something is just plain ridiculous.

Why a minor finger motion should be more or less conservative fundamentalist conspiracist than a big finger motion? Or even than a finger's lack of motion?

Or is it that what is minor is not the motion, but the finger itself?

Do you support liberal progressive pro-establishment big finger motions? Is your big finger liberal enough when it progressively moves in strange places?

Besides, why does a minor finger motion indicate that something, such as the evil dalie, is just plain ridiculous? Why do you disrespectfully call the evil dalie “something” instead of “someone”? Are you trying to ridicule the conservative fundamentalist authority of the evil theocrat?

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You mean to tell me that Tsongkhapa was wrong on the Dalai Lamas being an incarnation of Chenrezig?

Which Dalai Lama? The one picked by the CIA or the one picked by the Chinese government?

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2018, 03:44:37 PM »
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Are you aware that the Dalai Lama chooses the Hansen Tripa?

Never heard about the “Hansen Tripa”. Is he the Tripa of Hansen, Idaho? Or maybe the Tripa of Hansen, Winsconsin? Please share with the rest of us some more details about this intriguing “Hansen Tripa”, and why he is chosen by the evil dalie.

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Also, using conservative fundamentalist conspiracist logic of a minor finger motion indicating something is just plain ridiculous.

Why a minor finger motion should be more or less conservative fundamentalist conspiracist than a big finger motion? Or even than a finger's lack of motion?

Or is it that what is minor is not the motion, but the finger itself?

Do you support liberal progressive pro-establishment big finger motions? Is your big finger liberal enough when it progressively moves in strange places?

Besides, why does a minor finger motion indicate that something, such as the evil dalie, is just plain ridiculous? Why do you disrespectfully call the evil dalie “something” instead of “someone”? Are you trying to ridicule the conservative fundamentalist authority of the evil theocrat?

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You mean to tell me that Tsongkhapa was wrong on the Dalai Lamas being an incarnation of Chenrezig?

Which Dalai Lama? The one picked by the CIA or the one picked by the Chinese government?

Sorry, my bad.  My phone got weird on the spell correct.

Well you just stated that the Ganden Tripa is "supposedly" making the evil warding off mudra, but how do we even know for sure?  It's like a politician makes a triangle with his hands on his stomach and next thing you know, he's now an Illuminati member.  Ridiculous logic.

By something, I mean the meaning of your "hand sign."  Not the Dalai Lama.  I'll see if I can improve my English.

You mean to tell me, the Dalai Lama's guru, a Shugdenpa, was wrong on who the Dalai Lama is along with several other oracles and high lamas?  Very well, then Shugden is clearly an evil spirit who protected the Dalai Lama on his escape to India and his intention is to use the evil Dalai Lama he helped escape conquer the world so that all will be in connection with the Shugden and Shugden shall thus rule the world.  Totally accurate.

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2018, 05:19:00 PM »
Many people actually didn't know that. They think the Dalai Lama is like the Pope in the Catholic church, the man who governs ALL the Buddhist traditions in Tibet. It is completely wrong. Every tradition in Tibetan Buddhism has their own head, they don't listen to the Dalai Lama when it comes to spiritual practice. And the Dalai Lama does not have the power to dictate what and how different traditions do their practice.

The Dalai Lama is not even the head of the Gelug lineage. He is just another highly attained Buddhist master who happens to be (or used to be) the political head of Tibet. But for people who are not familiar with Tibetan Buddhism, they always think the Dalai Lama IS THE MAN, he can command everyone in Tibet. Politically, this might be true; spiritually this is not the case.

In Gelug lineage, the highest of all is the Gaden Tripa, who is the Tsongkhapa on earth. The Dalai Lama may be the one who appoints the Gaden Tripa, but his authority in Gelug tradition is certainly not higher than the Gaden Tripa. Gaden Tripa only takes care of the religious affair in Gelug tradition, he does not involve in politic or mix politic with religious affairs.

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 03:20:08 PM »
In the Gelug lineage which His Holiness the Dalai Lama is from, the throne holder will be Gaden Tripa. Gaden Tripa is the representation of Lama Tsongkhapa on earth which is the highest ranking lama in Gelug lineage. He represents the founder of Gelug lineage. His Holiness the Dalai Lama's lineage is Gelug which means he has to listen to Gaden Tripa since he is the highest ranking lama in Gelug.

However, His Holiness the Dalai Lama's case is a bit different. Dalai Lama has the highest fame among all Tibetan Lamas. Most of the world who do not understand Buddhism will think he is the "king" in Tibetan Buddhism. It is true to a certain extent due to his fame. However, if you look closer, that is not the case. There are 4 sects in Tibetan Buddhism and each one of them will have their own head. The Sakya will be Sakya Trinzin and for Kagyu will be Karmapa. None of the leaders from another sect and interfere with the affairs of another sect. It is not allowed and unheard of.

Only His Holiness the Dalai Lama managed to put his nose into other sect's business and made a mess out of it. An example will the Karmapa. In the history of all Karmapa, there is not one Karmapa is being recognized by a Dalai Lama. During the 17th Karmapa, His Holiness shown favor to a candidate of Karmapa which is traditionally not accepted because only Sharmapa's candidate will be enthroned as Karmapa. However, due to His Holiness's fame and endorsement of the other Karmapa, his candidate of Karma became legitimate to fight for the throne. Hence, Karma Kagyu sect is being divided into 2 groups according to their support to the 2 Karmapas.