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Akong Rinpoche stabbed to death in China
« on: October 10, 2013, 08:11:13 PM »
Just came across this news about Akong Rinpoche being stabbed to death by 3 Tibetans in China. Well... not surprised for a Tai Situ supporter... and his past controversies that surrounded him.

Although I do not wish to talk ill of a monk, but hey... after reading how He's attempted to defame Kalu Rinpoche, the Karmapa, Chogyam Trugpa etc... I'm not too surprised that this event would take place.

http://www.karmapa-issue.org/politics/brown_response_2.htm

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SHOCK OVER ASSASSINATION OF MURDERED SAMYE LING MONK
By Phil Coleman and Rachel Norris

Last updated at 14:11, Thursday, 10 October 2013
Friends of the Tibetan monk who founded the UK’s first Buddhist monastery near Lang- holm have spoken of their intense “shock and distress” at his murder.

Police from Chengdu, a city in south west China, said Dr Choje Akong Rinpoche, who set up the Samye Ling Tibetan centre at Eskdalemuir in 1967, was killed along with his nephew and driver in a residential area.

The three were “stabbed to death” in a dispute over money, say police. Three suspects are under arrest.

Speaking yesterday from the Samye Ling centre, ordained nun Tsultrim Zangmo summed up the feeling of those who knew him.

“We’re all in shock, and everyone here is devastated,” she said. “Everything here stems from him; he founded everything.”

She went on to describe how Dr Rinpoche, who began his life in the UK in 1957 when he fled from Tibet and took a job as a hospital porter, was a humble man who used his monk’s training and energy to make a lasting difference through work that was spiritual, charitable, and therapeutic.

“People would consult him because his knowledge was so vast: he was a brother, a mother, a father, and an advisor to everyone and you could go to him with any kind of problem,” she said.

Rev Scott McCarthy, minister at Langholm, Eskdalemuir, Westerkirk and Ewes, said: “We are very shocked. It’s a tragedy. I’m not clear on the events but I got an email from Lama Yeshe, who I knew well, explaining briefly what had happened. He referred to it as an assassination.”

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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 04:05:01 AM »
Finally the trial for the murder of Akong Tulku Rinpoche has begun in Chengdu, China.  However,  the head of the Kagyu tradition, the Karmapa, would not want a death sentence on the defendants if they are found guilty on compassionate ground. 



Two men went on trial in the city of Chengdu in south-west China on Wednesday for the murder of three men including a leading Tibetan lama who made his home in Britain.

Akong Tulku Rinpoche , who set up the west's first Tibetan Buddhist centre in Scotland and later founded others across Europe, was stabbed to death in Chengdu in October last year along with his nephew, Loga, and his assistant, Chime Wangyal.

Tudeng Gusha, also known as Thubten Kunsal, and his nephew, Ciren Banyue, are accused of intentional homicide. Another nephew, Geni Jiangcuo, is charged with harbouring a criminal.

Friends of the victims who attended the trial at Chengdu intermediate people's court said the main defendant had not denied the charge, but claimed that the lama had owed him 2.7m yuan (£265,000) for his work as a sculptor. Ciren Banyue retracted an initial confession to police and said he played no part in the deaths, merely accompanying his uncle to the scene.

Akong Rinpoche, who was 73 at the time of his death, was recognised as an incarnate lama as a small child in Tibet and became abbot of the Dolma Lhakhang monastery.

He fled from Tibet following a failed uprising there against Chinese rule in 1959, taking British citizenship and co-founding the Samye Ling Buddhist retreat near Lockerbie in Scotland in the 1960s.

But he managed to remain on good terms with Chinese leaders – leading to criticism from some Tibetan exiles – and supported several health, educational and cultural projects in Tibet via the Rokpa charity that he founded.

He was on his annual trip to inspect the projects and arrange their funding, meaning that he would have had access to considerable sums of money, when he was killed at a flat in Chengdu.

Tudeng Gusha had spent five years living at Samye Ling in Scotland, and its London branch, making religious statues. Representatives of Samye Ling said he had demanded money from the lama immediately before the deaths and said they had provided Chinese police with documents and witness statements showing that the sculptor had agreed to work on a voluntary basis.

Akong Rinpoche's son and several representatives of his Buddhist foundation attended the hearing. One of them, Carlo Luyckx, said that the artist had denied signing a contract stating that he was working on a voluntary basis, but that the prosecution told the court the signature on the document had been verified.

Luyckx, deputy mayor of Brussels and president of Belgium's Buddhist Union, had known the lama for 42 years. He said that Akong Rinpoche's brother, who is the abbot of Samye Ling, and the Karmapa – the head of the Kagyu school of Buddhism to which the victims belonged – had both expressed their wish that the death penalty would not be imposed on the defendants if they are convicted.

"For us the idea of one death leading to another is abhorrent. We believe in compassion and forgiveness," added Gelong Thubten, who was the lama's personal assistant.

He said that the sculptor had never requested money while in the UK and that he had left Britain with no sign of bad feeling on either side.

"From the start it was understood that he would be given board and lodging [and an allowance], but never ever a salary. I'm a monk; we don't get salaries," he added.

"We hadn't heard from him for two years. It was totally shocking to us."

An employee called Mr Hu at the Chengdu Intermediate People's Court said the trial would last three days.

• The photograph on this article was changed on Thursday 28 August to more accurately reflect the content of the article.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/murder-trial-akong-rinpoche-tibetan-lama-begins

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2014, 11:01:40 AM »
It's scary how violent people can be even with holy beings like Akong Rinpoche. I guess Rinpoche must have created many enemies to be assassinated. Just like what Q wrote, perhaps his karma came back because he tried to defame other holy beings like Kalu Rinpoche, Karmapa, and so on.

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 10:36:23 AM »
Interesting when I read Q's comments so I did some search on Akong Rinpoche. Below are some of the remarks I found about Akong Rinpoche.

Akong in India: A Sullen Survivor

After the Chinese invasion, Trungpa escaped to India and Akong accompanied him. Shortly after crossing the border, the pair came to Kalimpong so that Trungpa could visit Gyalwa Karmapa at Rumtek Monastery for a few days. As Trungpa's attendant, Akong did not accompany Trungpa on his visit to Rumtek, but remained alone in Kalimpong. Somehow, during Trungpa's travels back and forth between Rumtek and Kalimpong, Akong and Trungpa met the 16th Karmapa's general secretary, Damchoe Yongdu.

Being short of funds after their escape from Tibet, the pair tried to sell him a dzi, a decorative pendant, which they felt they could part with. But the general secretary was not interested. This made Akong quite angry. He was heard in Kalimpong to make many derogatory comments about the secretary and about HH Karmapa himself. Akong complained that even though Karmapa received so many offerings, yet he would not spare the money to buy a single dzi from a couple of lamas who were in trouble. Such gossip from a low-ranking lama would normally have meant little at Rumtek. But because Akong was the attendant of Trungpa Rinpoche, his talk was noted by Karmapa's administration.

Akong's First Meeting with Karmapa

One day, at around 10 o clock in the morning, the young lamas of Mrs. Bedi's school went out to pay their respects to Gyalwa Karmapa. Akong followed them to the house where Karmapa was staying. Akong entered the house and found His Holiness cleaning bird cages and talking with the young lamas. In the presence of HH Karmapa, Akong angrily scolded the young lamas for being absent from school without leave. He ordered them to return to Mrs. Bedi's house immediately. Shocked, Karmapa confronted Akong about this unusual behavior. Akong answered that it was his job as caretaker of the school to enforce school rules. Karmapa stared dumbfounded at Akong, who then beat his own retreat. Clearly, this was a direct challenge to HH Karmapa.

Akong was also known to often criticize Gyalwa Karmapa behind his back for supposedly showing disrespect in the past to Akong's lama, Situ Rinpoche. This criticism got back to Karmapa through the young lamas.

http://www.karmapa-issue.org/politics/brown_response_2.htm

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Re: Akong Rinpoche stabbed to death in China
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 01:27:45 PM »
I fold my hands to all the Buddhas in the ten directions and to their manifestations in the forms of Gurus/Lamas and Mahasiddhas who manifest to pacify the karmas of beings.

The stabbing of Akong Rinpoche can be explained simply based on worldly reasons ie based on money but we should regard it as a dramatical play of karma that somehow benefit others.
There can be many spiritual reasons for this including, samaya of His students, His taking the karma of others and this being the results of Him seemingly "disrespecting" the Karmapa. Whatever the reasons, the play of the Mahasiddhas can be mind boggling and we should not just regard what happen based on worldly reasons alone and be respectful.

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 08:46:05 AM »
My personal opinion is don't ever play with karma that defamed any highly attained being. No matter what we need to behave ourself especially our body, speech and mind. However, may Akong Rinpoche has a good and swift rebirth.

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 07:14:04 AM »
This is the latest news on the outcome of the trial of the murder of Akong Rinpoche. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/29/us-china-tibet-idUSKBN0GT0L520140829

Three Tibetan men admitted they killed Akong Rinpoche, his nephew and one other companion in Chengdu, China over financial disputes. The defendants claimed they were not paid for their work.






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Re: Akong Rinpoche stabbed to death in China
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2014, 09:21:24 AM »
Really shocking news that a high lama who has co-founded the earliest Buddhist centre in UK is killed in a gory manner. Can't say much about Karma as he has also contributed to the growth of Buddhism in the West and accumulated much merits. What the Karmapa and the Abbot of Samye Ling requested from the courts if convicted is not a death penalty. This is very much compassion in action and that a mother death will not create any good but to let their karma exhaust on their own.

Maybe Akong Rinpoche has  a reason to die in such a manner? We never know but pray for his swift rebirth.

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2014, 03:11:44 PM »
Akong Rinpoche was relativity unknown to my circle of Dharma friends. After reading the few link posted here and done some research, It seem that he had his fair share of controversy surrounding him in the Karmapa and Sharmapa  issue. It reminded me of an incidents from a book named “Snow in the Cave” where Anila Tenzin Plamo mentioned that Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche pour pee over Akong Rinpoche’ altar while they’re at odd. :o
Such could be the mind boggling method Mahashidda resort to using in teaching students about projection of our’ mind!
The stabbing of Akong Rinpoche can be explained simply based on worldly reasons ie based on money but we should regard it as a dramatical play of karma that somehow benefit others.
There can be many spiritual reasons for this including, samaya of His students, His taking the karma of others and this being the results of Him seemingly "disrespecting" the Karmapa.
 
From this mind boggling issue comes your equally mind boggling comment which I find. ::) ::) ;D

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2014, 09:14:25 AM »
It is shocking to know that a high lama was killed over financial quarrel. Even though he has his fair share of controversies yet he was well respected for  being the founder and abbot of the Samye Ling Tibetan Buddhist monastery in Scotland. However, whether it was karma catching up with him or it was the act of a Mahassidha, may Akong Rinpoche take a good rebirth.

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2014, 06:17:06 PM »
What on earth is happening to this world? A Rinpoche is been killed by Tibetans due to money dispute? One of the real shocker is Rinpoche was killed by Tibetans; which i think in Tibetan culture a monk is very well respected moreover Akong Rinpoche was definitely an important person and He should be well respected throughout the Buddhism world.

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2014, 11:45:08 AM »
This is such a shocking news. Lives were lost over money, if what is reported is the motive. It is immaterial whether who is right or who is wrong. Disputes of money does not warrant death. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The wise words of Mahatma Gandhi.

Akong Rinpoche may have many controversies surrounding him nevertheless when HH the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa visited Samye Ling in 1975 and 1977, Akong Rinpoche was then asked by the Karmapa to be the organisor of his 1977- 6-month tour of Europe.

Under the Gyalwa Karmapa's guidance, Akong Rinpoche established a traditional 3-year meditation retreat at Samye Ling and launched the construction of the Samye Project; the building of a major traditional Tibetan Buddhist temple and an accompanying College, Library and Museum.


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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2014, 06:32:29 AM »
There is karma even though we believe it or not. Even if high Lama did something wrong it is not right for anyone to take their life. Karma will come back to them.
May Akong Rinpoche have a good and swift rebirth.