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Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« on: November 25, 2018, 12:38:25 AM »
Tsem Lama has been posting this to this blog. Looks like Dagom Yangsi is making offerings on a statue. I guess it's good to see these things, real reincarnation in Tibet is still possible. Just wondering if you guys saw this and what you make of it. So young and already connected with Shugden. Isn't he considered Yamantaka or something?

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His Eminence Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche’s incarnation is in Lhasa visiting. He is visiting the 350-year-old Trode Khangsar chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. He is paying homage to the powerful statue of Dorje Shugden housed in this sacred chapel. Both the chapel and statue of Dorje Shugden were commissioned by His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama. The Great 5th Dalai Lama also composed a prayer to be recited daily to Dorje Shugden.

Dagom Rinpoche’s previous lives were great masters, scholars and practitioners of Dorje Shugden. Now this new incarnation of Dagom Rinpoche is offering gold on the face of Dorje Shugden in homage and worship to this very sacred statue of Dorje Shugden housed in Lhasa for the last 350 years. This is a very traditional Tibetan method of paying homage to holy images, which is by offering gold with prayers.

The Tibetan leadership wrongly says if you practise Dorje Shugden you will take rebirth into the three lower realms. Hundreds of lamas from the Sakya, Kagyu and Gelugpa schools of Buddhism have practised Dorje Shugden and their incarnations returned. Many of the incarnations are recognised by His Holiness the Dalai Lama himself. So this shows if you practise Dorje Shugden, only benefits come and no harm will come. The very fact Dagom Rinpoche’s incarnation is back, is clear evidence that Dorje Shugden’s practice is beneficial.

May Dagom Rinpoche’s current incarnation live a very long life.

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Trode Khangsar – A 400 year old Dorje Shugden Chapel in Lhasa:
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=92148

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 12:48:04 AM »
So young and already connected with Shugden. Isn't he considered Yamantaka or something?

Thanks for the good news KR. Yes he's considered one with Yamantaka. His previous incarnation is also said to have been murdered by the Tibetan leadership because he refused to give up his practice of Dorje Shugden. He died in Thailand after a very sudden and swift illness that most believe came about through poisoning, I believe. Yeah yeah I know, benign CTA, how could the residents of Shangrila ever stoop to poisoning someone? ::)

On the contrary poison is a CTA-favored method of dispatching their enemies. I guess the perception is that it's less messy and less likely to be linked to them compared to other methods like car accidents, stabbings and the like (although car accidents and stabbings have occurred - see the cases of Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk and also of Gen Chonzey of Trijang Labrang to corroborate this statement). Sources have told me that there are two types of poison, both supplied to the CTA during the time of their training under the CIA. One is a slow-acting poison that is virtually undetectable because it happens over weeks and months, and the other is extremely fast-acting. I guess we know which type was administered to Dagom Rinpoche.

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 03:13:09 AM »
Thanks for sharing. Rejoice to see all these lamas returning to continue turning the wheel of Dharma.  H.E. Denma Gonsa Rinpoche, H.E. Zemey Rinpoche, H.E. Dagom Rinpoche, all are returning to Tibet. May all great masters live long, and may they remain with us until the end of samsara.

On another note, it seems all these masters reincarnate in Tibet, perhaps it's a sign that Buddhism will grow again in Tibet and there, Central Tibetan Administration has no control and cannot stop these great masters to continue the lineage practice of Dorje Shugden  8)!

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2018, 05:04:39 AM »
Wow! it is rejoicing to know that all these esteemed Lamas reincarnated back to their rightful places, in Tibet. Plus point, as mentioned, is that they are able to grow up in peace and not life threats or fear of assassins. Seems like if the Dalai Lama wants to go back it may be as the new incarnation. After all, CTA is only creating and widening the divide even more. Now that he had scored money from Canada, he will be looking to where he can have his "Thank You" Parties. Who knows, there may be more suckers around. At the rate that he is going, the Dalai Lama is not getting his wish anytime soon. So sad that after all those years that the Dalai Lama had worked so hard for is just now sleazy and he is being discarded until the next show time.

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2018, 06:14:42 AM »
The previous Dagom Rinpoche was recognised by Kyabje Trijang Dorjechang, tutor to His Holiness the Fourteenth Dalai Lama, as the Twelfth incarnation of the lineage of Dagom Rinpoches. He has established centres in Nepal, India and USA. He established the well-known Dagom Gaden Tensung Ling Center in Bloomington, USA, in 1996 and had a very close connection with the people of Zanskar (India) and has established the Lhasa Monlam festival there.

Throughout his life, Dagom Rinpoche has given teachings and advice as well as established centres with an unwaveringly pure motivation of preserving and spreading the pure Dharma of Je Tsongkhapa and the Gelugpa lineage. It is inevitable that he is a devoted practitioner of the great compassionate Dorje Shugden.

Dagom Rinpoche has proven to us that practising Dorje Shugden does not take us to the lower realms. He has now returned to continue his beneficial works for all beings. Needless to say, he will work hand in hand with Dorje Shugden to achieve this.

His short bio here if you are interested http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/kyabje-dagom-rinpoche/

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 12:45:53 AM »
Another Dorje Shugden lama has returned to us and continued his Dharma work and benefit many people. This does not sound like the actions of a demon practitioner at all. The CTA accused Dorje Shugden as a demon and everyone who practices him will go to the three lower realms. This reincarnation of the previous Dagom Rinpoche is a living proof of what CTA said is false and misleading.

Other than Dagom Rinpoche, many strong Dorje Shugden lamas came back in the human form and continued to benefit others with their dharma work. High lamas such as Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, Kyabje Ling Rinpoche, Kyabje Domo Geshe Rinpoche and also Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche had reincarnated back to continued their work from their previous lives.

Even His Holiness the Dalai Lama has recognised and certified them to be the reincarnation of those High Lamas. If what CTA said is true, then all these DS lamas should end up in the three lower realms and not here with us in the human realm. What CTA claimed about Dorje Shugden are all lies which can be proven rather easily if one just think about it.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 01:52:45 AM »
For the past 20 years, the CTA has been saying Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, whoever practices Dorje Shugden will take rebirth in hell. They also say Dorje Shugden is very harmful and we should stay away from him. The ban was imposed to stop people from practicing.

There are a few questions the CTA should answer us before they attack Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden followers. Tibetan Buddhism is famous for its rituals. There are many rituals a high master can do to subdue a spirit. How come until today there is no one who can subdue Dorje Shugden? If all the Buddhist masters, high lamas are very attained and powerful, why do they have to be afraid of Dorje Shugden? They will have the protection from the 3 Jewels, they don't have to be afraid of anything.

If Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, why are so many Dorje Shugden lamas keep coming back in the human form? They should have been born in hell for taking refuge in an evil spirit. The funny thing is the CTA and the Dalai Lama recognised the reincarnations of these lamas. For example, Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Lati Rinpoche, Lama Yeshe and many more. If what the CTA and the Dalai Lama say about Dorje Shugden is true, does it mean they have recognised the wrong tulkus?

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2018, 02:23:17 PM »
The Trode Khangsar Dorje Shugden chapel is a very important holy site a Dorje Shugden follower must go. It is built by the 5th Dalai Lama dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Many high lamas have come to visit this chapel to pay homage to Dorje Shugden.

It is such a good news to know Dagom Rinpoche has come back in perfect human form to continue to turn the wheel of Dharma. It is very nice to see the young Dagom Rinpoche has connected with Dorje Shugden again! May Dagom Rinpoche has everything he needs to spread Dharma.

The CTA is definitely wrong saying Dorje Shugden is a spirit because high lamas who practised Dorje Shugden in their previous lives come back again in perfect human form. Dagom Rinpoche is only one of them. I am not sure if the CTA realises it, they are also recognising the reincarnation of Lamas who in their previous lives were strong Dorje Shugden practitioners, such as Zong Rinpoche, Lati Rinpoche, etc. Shouldn't these Lamas end up in hell already if what the CTA says is true?

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2018, 07:16:26 AM »
So young and already connected with Shugden. Isn't he considered Yamantaka or something?

Thanks for the good news KR. Yes he's considered one with Yamantaka. His previous incarnation is also said to have been murdered by the Tibetan leadership because he refused to give up his practice of Dorje Shugden. He died in Thailand after a very sudden and swift illness that most believe came about through poisoning, I believe. Yeah yeah I know, benign CTA, how could the residents of Shangrila ever stoop to poisoning someone? ::)

On the contrary poison is a CTA-favored method of dispatching their enemies. I guess the perception is that it's less messy and less likely to be linked to them compared to other methods like car accidents, stabbings and the like (although car accidents and stabbings have occurred - see the cases of Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk and also of Gen Chonzey of Trijang Labrang to corroborate this statement). Sources have told me that there are two types of poison, both supplied to the CTA during the time of their training under the CIA. One is a slow-acting poison that is virtually undetectable because it happens over weeks and months, and the other is extremely fast-acting. I guess we know which type was administered to Dagom Rinpoche.

I have heard about how CTA likes to use poison to get rid of their enemies. This has not changed since the 5th Dalai Lama's time. During that time, there was another lama, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen whose fame and power almost on par with the 5th Dalai Lama who just formed Gaden Podrang. Due to Gaden Podrang is still new and their power has not consolidated, they grew weary of the Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's increasing fame and power and they are afraid that one day he will overpower the 5th Dalai Lama.

Hence, the assistant of the 5th Dalai Lama started to plot against him and try to kill him. One of the ways they use is poison. However, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is a high attained lama and hence he is unharmed by the poison that he ingested. In the end, they killed him by stuffing a khata down his throat after Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen gave them that option.

Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen passed away and arose the powerful dharma protector Dorje Shugden. Then, his reincarnation was banned and all his wealth was confiscated by the them. This is just one example of how CTA will eliminate lamas who are powerful and famous and have the potential to overpower His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 03:57:53 PM »
Dagom Dorjechang the previous one was considered one with Yamantaka.

The only reason why Yamantaka would allow himself to be poisoned is because, the time is right for him to prepare for future dharma work.

Like Nagarjuna and Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen, they were indestructible from most methods to take their life, except the one they provided their would be assassins. 

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2018, 12:57:44 PM »
Dagom Dorjechang the previous one was considered one with Yamantaka.

The only reason why Yamantaka would allow himself to be poisoned is because, the time is right for him to prepare for future dharma work.

Like Nagarjuna and Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen, they were indestructible from most methods to take their life, except the one they provided their would be assassins.

What you are saying makes sense as well. All high lamas have very powerful clairvoyance, Dagom Rinpoche must have known someone is going to poison him. But he 'chose' to be poisoned because it was the right time for him to pass away to take another rebirth. There are many things a high lama does that we cannot comprehend.

Trijang Rinpoche said in his text "Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors" that one day the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden will manifest conflict with each other, but we should never lose faith in either of them. What the Dalai Lama is doing now seems to be very illogical and unkind. But if it was not because of the ban, not many people will know about Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden is like a celebrity, everyone in Tibetan Buddhism knows about him.

The publicity of Dorje Shugden at the moment might be very negative. But since the negative news about Dorje Shugden is all lies, one day the truth will be revealed. People will finally know Dorje Shugden is not an evil spirit but a protector all of us can rely on. In the end, more people will benefit when the ban is lifted.

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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2018, 08:20:03 PM »
Dagom Dorjechang the previous one was considered one with Yamantaka.

The only reason why Yamantaka would allow himself to be poisoned is because, the time is right for him to prepare for future dharma work.

Like Nagarjuna and Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen, they were indestructible from most methods to take their life, except the one they provided their would be assassins.

Highly attained lamas such as Dagom Rinpoche and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen are indestructible from most methods. This can be seen from Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's life where the 5th Dalai Lama's assistant tried a lot of ways to kill him including poisoning him and stabbing him with a knife. However, due to the attainments of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, he is able to expel the poison from his body. When he was stabbed, he was unharmed and an eye appeared on the location where the knife had stabbed him and stared back at the attacker. These are just some of the examples of what happened.

I believe Dagom Rinpoche would have the same abilities as well and he deliberately chose that time to pass away because the timing is right. Now that his reincarnation returned during the time of the Dorje Shugden ban is at it's worst. However, when he has grown into a ripe age to disseminate the Dharma, the ban would be much weaker and eventually lifted. Then, he will be able to spread the Dharma more effectively and fewer obstacles.

These are just one of the ways the holy beings work with each other to spread the holy teachings of Buddha Shakyamuni. The fact that Dagom Rinpoche passed away as a Dorje Shugden practitioners are proof that Dorje Shugden practice does not send you to the lower realms. He is back with a human form and also back in the monastery. How auspicious is that?

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Re: Dagom Yangsi offers gold on Dorje Shugden
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2019, 02:36:20 PM »
The fact that the Dalai Lama and the CTA recognise their own Dorje Shugden lamas means that they also believe Dorje Shugden lamas are highly attained. Only highly attained masters will be able to control their rebirth and come back in a perfect human form. Isn't this a big slap to the CTA themselves?

How can the monks not know this simple logic? How can some of them keep criticising about Dorje Shugden saying he is an evil spirit? They owe people an explanation of why demon worshippers can still come back in a human form. Does it mean Buddha lie to us? If Buddha did not lie, then it must be the CTA.

The CTA does not believe in karma and to cover themselves up, they accuse an enlightened being for their failure. So much money is spent just to make sure Dorje Shugden takes the blame. Imposing a ban is easy but the pain and sufferings they have caused to people are beyond imagination. Families, friends, teacher, and students are separated because of the ban. The ban gives nothing positive but only sufferings. The CTA has to lift the ban soon to stop accumulating more negative karma.

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2019, 06:27:31 PM »
Dagom Yangsi is the reincarnation of a strong Dorje Shugden lama who did not give up Dorje Shugden practice up until his death. He is a strong proof that Dorje Shugden practitioners do not go to the three lower realms and the Tibetan leadership is lying about the nature of Dorje Shugden practice.

There are many high lamas in Tibet that practices Dorje Shugden because he is a powerful and effective Dharma protector. His practice is prevalent especially in the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism for 400 years until the Tibetan leadership decided to ban it.

All the reasons that are given by the Tibetan leadership can be easily proven to be untrue. Anyone with a logical mind and some knowledge about Tibetan Buddhism will be able to tell that Tibetan leadership is full of crap and the only reason they are able to get away with it is that they are abusing the trust and loyalty that everyone has for His Holiness the Dalai Lama.