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DharmaSpace

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Time for a Change in Government
« on: September 02, 2014, 05:57:48 AM »
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The head of Tibet's government-in-exile has rejected a claim by Chinese authorities that the Dalai Lama is in talks with Beijing through his envoys about the possibility of his return to Tibet.

But Lobsang Sangay, the political leader of the India-based Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), left open the possibility of any official dialogue between the two sides aimed at bringing about a resolution to the Tibet question.

"As we have always been transparent, right now there isn’t any official contact or dialogue taking place [with the Chinese leadership]," Sangay told RFA's Tibetan Service.

"If dialogues are to take place, as we stressed earlier, it would be between the envoys of His Holiness the Dalai Lama and representatives of the new Chinese leadership," he said. "It has been like this before and will remain like this in the future."

China’s government in the Tibetan Autonomous Region (TAR) claimed last week that the Dalai Lama, Tibet's spiritual leader, was in discussions with Beijing through his “personal envoys” but the talks were only about the possibility of his return to Tibet.

Wu Yingjie, the deputy secretary of the ruling Chinese Communist Party's Committee for Tibet, had told a group of Indian journalists on a special visit to the TAR capital Lhasa that the talks with the Dalai Lama were “ongoing and always smooth, but we are discussing only his future, not Tibet’s.”

“All Tibetans, including the Dalai Lama and the people around him, can return if they accept Tibet and Taiwan as part of China, and give up ‘splittist’ efforts,” The Hindu newspaper of India quoted Wu as saying. He claimed that many Tibetan leaders in exile had chosen to return to Tibet in recent years.

The Dalai Lama fled into exile in India in the midst of a failed national uprising in Tibet against Chinese occupation in 1959, and the Chinese government has repeatedly accused exiled Tibetans, including the Dalai Lama, of stoking dissent against its rule ever since.

Talks held on Tibet’s status between envoys of the Dalai Lama and Beijing stalled in January 2010. There has been no progress in the discussions since then despite calls from U.S. President Barack Obama and other world leaders for a resumption of the Sino-Tibetan dialogue.

"If we receive a signal from the Chinese side and a conducive environment is created for possible dialogue, then our side can easily appoint the envoys [for the talks]," Sangay said.

"We attach more importance to the substance than form of the dialogue," he said. "So, the most important objective is to resolve the Tibet issue.”

Optimistic

The Dalai Lama had always said he remained optimistic he would be able to return to Tibet, citing political reforms that have taken place over the last few decades.

But he is reviled by some Chinese leaders as a dangerous separatist who seeks to split the formerly self-governing region from Beijing's rule.

The Dalai Lama says he seeks only a meaningful autonomy for Tibet as a part of China, with protections for the region’s language, religion, and culture under his "Middle Way" approach.

When asked by RFA whether the Dalai Lama’s return to Tibet would solve the Tibet issue, Sangay said, "There are several possibilities."

"Whatever is the most realistic and practical approach, we pursue that.”

“Ninety-nine percent of the Tibetan people aspire and dream for His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s return to Tibet. My hope for that becoming a reality is still strong," he said.

"We have made consistent efforts at the international stage for the realization of His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s return and for the restoration of Tibetan freedom, and recognize the unflinching spirit of Tibetans inside Tibet," Sangay said.

Sangay, a Harvard-educated lawyer, was elected Tibet’s exile political leader in 2011 after the Dalai Lama relinquished his political role as the leader of the government-in-exile, ending a tradition spanning centuries of the Dalai Lamas holding both spiritual and political authority.

Reported by Palden Gyal for RFA's Tibetan Service. Translated by Dorje Damdul. Written in English by Parameswaran Ponnudurai.

CTA and the its policies are ineffective to bring China to the table for negotiation. The news above is a reflection of that. If any talks are happening, it is only a personal one for the Dalai Lama to return, there is no indication of Tibetan autonomy or freedom or anything of that sort. CTA has failed in its inability to make headway in this issue after so many years in service. 

The CTA which promotes Tibetans to be split from one another, through the Dorje Shugden issue, creating disharmony of already a fragmented Tibetan diaspora. What kind of people would want the likes of CTA to govern them?

The de facto political party of the CTA is the NDPT - National Democratic Party of Tibet, in 2011 opposition in the form of PPT - People's Party of Tibet (PPT)  appeared. Though not much is now known about PPT as their blog is offline. In Taiwan and Hong Kong, besides existing political parties, parties that support China have emerged and they provide a counterbalance to the parties who engage with China in a hardline manner.

Would a new party that is more about working with the Chinese be better for the Tibetans cause, and surely they will not want to enforce the Dorje Shugden ban as Tibetan controlled China there is no ban too.
   

 

Ringo Starr

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Re: Time for a Change in Government
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2014, 06:13:58 AM »
A democratic system only works if the checks and balances are in place and in good working order.

Hence, representation in the CTA from the PPT is certainly welcomed I would think.

To quote H.H. the Dalai Lama:

"I have long looked forward to the time when we could devise a political system, suited both to our traditions and to the demands of the modern world. A democracy that has nonviolence and peace at its roots."

"No system of government is perfect, but democracy is closest to our essential human nature."

http://www.dalailama.com/messages/buddhism/buddhism-and-democracy

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Re: Time for a Change in Government
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2014, 11:53:11 PM »
Well, the Dalai Lama returning to Tibet as the ruler under China is THE WORST OUTCOME that I can imagine.  Having a democracy without the Dalai Lama returning from India would be like the Pureland almost--- all that Dharma and no Dalai Lama or China breathing down your neck---
  But honestly, if the Tibetans are only going for autonomy, then they need to go for democracy in their autonomy, and leave the DL and any other religious leaders out of the government ruling positions. 
  I can imagine nothing worse than communism telling me to do one set of stuff, and the Dalai Lama causing all kinds of other stuff, communist oligarchy with a puppet (tyrannical) Dalai Lama.  No thanks.  I can say no thanks, because I am thinking of the rebirths of all living beings.  No thanks on that.

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Re: Time for a Change in Government
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2014, 03:36:30 AM »
Mind you there is a political party for the welfare of animals in Holland. So why can't we have a political party or arm that is pro Dorje Shugden and for the welfare of the Tibetans too ?  It is about time isn't it?

A sort of Shadow Government for us Anglophiles.

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Re: Time for a Change in Government
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 08:14:22 AM »
I agree with Blueupali that any government for that matter must separate the temple from the state. That itself will be the first step towards a balanced state. I cannot help but shudder at the thought of a Spanish Inquisition happening in Tibet, as it is happening outside Tibet. Let The Dalai Lama return to Tibet but as a private citizen, he is Tibetan afterall as with a lot of others. But, effort must be made to ensure that Tibet will not degenerate further into the Dark Ages. But, how is that going to happen under the current CTA? :-[

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Re: Time for a Change in Government
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2014, 12:54:02 PM »
When the time comes for The Dalai Lama to return to Tibet and eventually for the acceptance of Tibet as an Autonomous Region similar to Hong Kong, the CTA would not be the "government" for Tibetans in Tibet and in exile. The Chinese will make sure of it. Mostly, there will be an appointed legislative council mostly appointed by China and certain individuals in the current CTA would be part of the minority for the purpose of transition.
Hence, it would not be meaningful to ponder on whether the current CTA is effective (they are not, period!), or the manner they are going to achieve their aim of the "middle way" as everything is in the hands of His Holiness and of course the Chinese.