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Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« on: August 05, 2014, 04:12:53 AM »
Enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile:  Watch this video to see how dissent is suppressed by the Tibetan Government in Exile.

Tibetan Shugden Buddhists shared their fears of prosecution and violence as a result of the discrimination and oppression of the practice of the special protector of Je Tsongkhapa's doctrine.  Is the Dalai Lama Promoting Segregation in the Tibetan Community?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5sboKNm39U

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 05:29:38 AM »
Ah, well the CTA seems to make enemies out of us--- like even when Buddha was under the Bodhi tree and he had devaputra maras combating him, he just transformed their minds by meditating on love, so you know, he didn't ban the devaputra maras, he just helped them.  Enemies are an imputation.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2014, 07:56:24 AM »
Shugden Buddhists around the world, and indeed even the Kagyu that recognize Trinley Thaye Dorje are ALL enemies of the CTA and their leader, the False Dalai Lama.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2014, 08:51:58 AM »
I am glad to see more and more educated people are seeing the contradiction: "public are invited, but Dorje Shugden practitioners are not welcomed". What the interviewee said is correct: "Dorje Shugden practitioners are part of the public", and it is basically a human rights issue".

Whatever the CTA is doing, it does not comply with Buddhist teaching. There is no compassion, there is no patience, incite violence etc. Some may ask, "What has HH Dalai Lama been teaching His students? Is He teaching real Dharma?"

Thank you ISC for making this video. I feel that such videos have indeed created its impact and many people are starting to understand the situation, rather than just believe what HH Dalai Lama said without evening thinking.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2014, 11:32:08 AM »
It is indeed disturbing to allow access to the conference of the Dalai Lama to everyone, all faiths, all races, everyone, but not Dorje Shuden's followers.
Why such treatment indeed?
The truth cannot be silenced, it always comes out, simply because the truth always prevails.
It also tells more about how the matter of Dorje Shugden is treated from the side of the Dalai Lama's followers, as if being a follower of the Dalai lama would almost equate with being "anti-Shugden".
Well, I am glad that I have kept an open mind, for it is easier for the truth to prevail!
This ban on Dorje Shugden has no ground, no basis and no logic.
I find it frustrating and puzzling that the ban still has people to defend it by now, but I am sure this will change soon, because it is not on the side of the truth, simply put.

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 12:12:51 PM »
Is indeed sad...
A buddhist was banned from Dharma talks. What does that sound? Aren't we always talks about peace, talk about equal human rights, talks about harmonies? What this banned about? To show CTA very powerful that the whole Buddhist world would have to listen to them?

What's other non Buddhist think? We are humiliating our self by this banned.  CTA- please do not harm own Dharma brothers and sisters anymore. Especially when you have failed your duty to return back to Tibet. Please do not uses Dorje Shugden as scapegoat

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 12:57:03 PM »
HH Dalai Lama has the right to prohibit anyone from attending his public talks.  Similarly every Dorje Shugden follower has the right to practise Dorje Shugden. No one has the right to prohibit them from practising Dorje Shugden.

It is non of His Holiness' or Central Tibetan Administration's or pro-Dalai Lama followers' business to interfere with Dorje Shugden followers' religious freedom and to ban Dorje Shugden.

CTA is so stupid to treat Dorje Shugden and His followers as their enemies. Has CTA forgotten that their real enemy is China?
 
To single out and prohibit Dorje Shugden HH Dalai Lama has the right to prohibit anyone from attending his public talks.  Similarly every Dorje Shugden follower has the right to practise Dorje Shugden. No one has the right to prohibit them from practising Dorje Shugden.

It is non of His Holiness' or Central Tibetan Administration's or pro-Dalai Lama followers' business to interfere with Dorje Shugden followers' religious freedom and to ban Dorje Shugden.

CTA is so stupid to treat Dorje Shugden and His followers as their enemies. Has CTA forgotten that their real enemy is China?

To single out and prohibit Dorje Shigden followers from attending the public talk is discrimination. Has HH Dalai Lama given up his compassion, equanimity and love of all beings? Do you hate Dorje Shugden and his followers so much until they had become your enemies?

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2014, 01:31:09 PM »
HH Dalai Lama has the right to prohibit anyone from attending his public talks.  Similarly every Dorje Shugden follower has the right to practise Dorje Shugden. No one has the right to prohibit them from practising Dorje Shugden.

It is non of His Holiness' or Central Tibetan Administration's or pro-Dalai Lama followers' business to interfere with Dorje Shugden followers' religious freedom and to ban Dorje Shugden.

CTA is so stupid to treat Dorje Shugden and His followers as their enemies. Has CTA forgotten that their real enemy is China?
 
To single out and prohibit Dorje Shugden HH Dalai Lama has the right to prohibit anyone from attending his public talks.  Similarly every Dorje Shugden follower has the right to practise Dorje Shugden. No one has the right to prohibit them from practising Dorje Shugden.

It is non of His Holiness' or Central Tibetan Administration's or pro-Dalai Lama followers' business to interfere with Dorje Shugden followers' religious freedom and to ban Dorje Shugden.

CTA is so stupid to treat Dorje Shugden and His followers as their enemies. Has CTA forgotten that their real enemy is China?

To single out and prohibit Dorje Shigden followers from attending the public talk is discrimination. Has HH Dalai Lama given up his compassion, equanimity and love of all beings? Do you hate Dorje Shugden and his followers so much until they had become your enemies?

Please ignore the above post. 

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2014, 01:38:12 PM »
HH Dalai Lama has the right to prohibit anyone from attending his public talks. Similarly every Dorje Shugden follower has the right to practise Dorje Shugden. No one has the right to prohibit them from practising Dorje Shugden.
 
It is non of His Holiness' or Central Tibetan Administration's or pro-Dalai Lama followers' businesses to interfere with Dorje Shugden followers' religious freedom and to ban Dorje Shugden.
 
To single out and prohibit Dorje Shugden followers from attending the public talk is discrimination. Has HH Dalai Lama given up his compassion, equanimity and love of all beings? Does HH Dalai Lama hate Dorje Shugden and his followers so much until they had become his enemies?

Has Central Tibetan Administration forgotten that their real enemy is China?

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 02:57:20 PM »
It is a shame that every one of all faith, religion and creed are allowed to attend this public talk except Dorje Shugden practitioners.  This is unjust discrimination! How can Buddhists not allowed to attend when our races and religions are welcome! This does not comply with Buddhist teachings that emphasized on love, compassion, tolerance and non-violence.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 03:51:20 PM »
HH Dalai Lama advocates world peace and compassion. He even made a call for Buddhists in Myanmar and Sri Lanka to cease violence towards the countries' Muslim minorities. However, why does he have double standard on his talk and does not welcome Dorje Shugden practitioners? Why won’t he treat everyone equally with love and compassion? No more human rights? This is just so contradicting to his teaching!
I am glad that more people see this contradiction and start thinking of this ban. May more see the truth and put more pressure worldwide via news and social media on HH Dalai Lama and CTA to lift the ban!

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2015, 09:17:34 AM »
The CTA seem to be very accommodating with other religions and their practices, but with Shugdenpas there is not a trace of compassion.

Another glaring contradiction by the Dalai Lama who preaches solutions by peace and love not to stop the monastic self immolation in Tibet.

Let us develop some wisdom to understand all the contradictions thrown at us who worship Dorje Shugden.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2015, 02:43:05 PM »
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The CTA seem to be very accommodating with other religions and their practices, but with Shugdenpas there is not a trace of compassion.
Another glaring contradiction by the Dalai Lama who preaches solutions by peace and love not to stop the monastic self immolation in Tibet.

The CTA is just following the command of their barbaric leader, the evil dalie, who furiously said, and the video is published for everyone to see, that his witch-hunt would be extremely harsh, as harsh as possible, “like the Cultural Revolution”.

Therefore, the CTA is in fact quite accommodating about Shugdenpas. The CTA was supposed to kill and torture Shugdenpas, “like in the Cultural Revolution”, according to the command of their demented boss, the evil dalie, but they are not yet there.

Still, you want to whitewash the evil dalie's criminal activity, and shift the blame for his crimes to the CTA. This shows that you are politically motivated, and just what you want is that another tribe, a “Shugdenpa” tribe, replaces the CTA in the favor of the evil dalie.

People like you and the CTA are like two minor gangsters fighting for the favor of a bigger capo mafioso. You just want to be among the favored minions, instead of the CTA, in the eyes of the evil dalie. Therefore you viciously attack the CTA while always saving the evil dalie's face.

Therefore, you want to reduce the sacred tradition of Dorje Shugden to the role of servile minions of an insane criminal, himself a servile puppet of Western powers, in order to enjoy a slice of the artificial glitter showered on him by his Western puppet masters.

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Let us develop some wisdom to understand all the contradictions thrown at us who worship Dorje Shugden.

The evil dalie threw contradictions at basely motivated people like you, who claim to oppose his ban but is all to eager to lick his feet. True Shugdenpas are not politically motivated, and therefore free from such contradictions as those afflicting you.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2015, 02:47:44 PM »
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Let us develop some wisdom to understand all the contradictions thrown at us who worship Dorje Shugden.

The evil dalie threw contradictions at basely motivated people like you, who claim to oppose his ban but are all to eager to lick his feet. True Shugdenpas are not politically motivated, and therefore free from such contradictions as those afflicting you.

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Re: Are you the enemies of the Tibetan Government in Exile?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2015, 07:30:04 AM »
CTA (previously known as TGiE) would like to put the blame on Dorje Shugden and His practitioners. They failed to deliver what they promised (which is to gain independence) and things are not looking good for them as leaders of the exile community. Therefore, it is convenient of them to look for a scapegoat, and Dorje Shugden is used conveniently.

On a contrary, I would say CTA is the enemy of all Tibetans in exile. After over 50 years in power, not only they failed to gain independence, they failed to produce any good results that can show the world. CTA has been separating people based on Dorje Shugden, and even China is using this as an "excuse" not to give autonomy to Tibetans. Well, if I am China, why would I want to give autonomy to a governance to people who would separate people? If they can separate people, why wouldn't they stir up the sentiment and instigate people to gain independence and leave China?

Who is the enemy now?