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Fifth Dalai Lama
« on: May 22, 2008, 05:14:22 PM »
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http://www.dalailama.com/page.133.htm

The Fifth Dalai Lama
Folio 157 (front and back) of the autobiography of the Fifth Dalai Lama (1617-1682) called Dukulai Gosang, Volume Kha, Lhasa Publication:
 
It is well known that at Dhol Chumig Karmo1 a very powerful perfidious interfering spirit (dam sri)2, born due to distorted prayers, has been harming the teaching of the Buddha and sentient beings in general and in particular. The harmful activity has intensified since the firebird year (1636) and (the spirit) has been successful in many of his missions. However, hardly anyone has taken any action, as if this did not concern him or her. So, at the end of the earth-bird year (1648) a new house was constructed at Dhol Chumig Karmo and articles were placed there in the hope that it would become a place for the Gyalpo to settle. However, his harmful activities only intensified and recently many lay and ordained people have been afflicted with diseases and a few monks have died. Therefore, all the monks unanimously decided that a fire ritual should be performed.


Consequently, two groups of practitioners were organised. One was led by Nagrampa Dhondup Gyatso, who acted as the Vajra Acharya of (a performance of) the Dorje Drolo ritual and the other was led by Nangjung Ngagchang Losang Khyentse, who acted as the Vajra Acharya of (a performance of the) Yangsang Karma Dragpo ritual. Likewise Rigzin Pema Thinley of Dorje Drag, Dharma King Terdag Lingpa, Vugja Lungpa, Drigung Tulku Rinpoche, Katshal Zurpa Ngari Konchok Lhundup and Palri Tulku performed the Wrathful Lama, Yama, Phurba, Loktri practice for seven days, at the conclusion of which a fire-ritual was performed during which the 'perfidious interfering spirit? and his entourage were burnt. Everybody was convinced (of its success because of) the appearance of wonderful signs and the smell of burning flesh that everybody witnessed. Thus, many sentient beings were explicitly granted the gift of fearlessness because their lives were saved. Moreover, indirectly these creatures (?byung po)3 were delivered to the peaceful state of being released from having to experience the intolerable suffering of bad states of rebirth due to their increasing negative actions.


At that time a testimony4 was written to indicate that these creatures or evil spirits were without protection and refuge and (consequently) the Dardhingpas of Dorje Drag Monastery compiled mantras. As a religious practice for the deceased, Sera and Drepung Monasteries performed the Prayer of the White Umbrella Deity 44,000 times and recited the Heart Sutra 118,000 times during eleven sessions during which tea was offered in each monastery.


At sixty-seven other well-disciplined monasteries in the neighbourhood, monks were requested to perform the White Umbrella Prayer as many as possible for the deceased. At Yerpa the Gyuto monks performed the prayer of appeasement of Gonpo (Mahakala) and Choegyal (Dharmaraja) 693 times, Tenma Shasana 1,121,800 times, (Sixty Section Ritual Cake Offering to Overcome Evil) Drugchu pai Tordog. At Choekhor Gyal they performed rituals to (Palden Lhamo) Magzorma, to Mahakala the Lord of the Tent (Gur and zhal), and to Begtse and at Gatshal they performed the prayer of appeasing the Dharma protectors in general 10000 times and the prayers of the Six Armed (Mahakala), Leshin and Vaishravana (rNam sre) 1000 times. At 11 district capitals they performed the Prayer for Invoking the Spirit of the Deity to Vanquish the Enemy (dgra-lha-dpangs-bstod) and other practices to appease local deities and spirits.
 
Notes:
Dhol Chumig Karmo is Shugden?s place of origin, where a shrine was constructed to him. He is also referred as Dholgyal because he is a Gyalpo from Dhol Chumig Karmo. Gyalpo refers to a class of evil spirit. Since Shugden belong to this group, he is also called Gyalchen, the great Gyalpo.
 Dam sri, a transgressive interfering spirit, is the spirit of one who has deliberately breached his oath or commitment to his lama out of resentment and dissension.
 ?Byung po means creature or evil spirit.
 Zur dpang refers to a testimony or the deposition of a witness.


Translation of the testimony that the Fifth Dalai Lama (1617-1682) mentions in his autobiography. The original Tibetan can be found on page 148 front and back (English pages 423 and 424) of the volume Da of his Collected Works published in Gangtok, Sikkim.
 
"Because of the manipulations of Lag Agyal (the mother) of Gekhasa, the false reincarnation of Tulku Sonam Geleg Palsang (Tulku Dakpa Gyaltsen) got his way (and was installed as the successful candidate). However, because of distorted prayers he became a perfidious spirit (dam sri) and brought serious harm to sentient beings. Therefore, a total of seven groups of practitioners led by (Pema Trinley) Rinpoche of Dorje Drag, Choegyal Terdag Lingpa, Choeje Vugja Lungpa, Ngari Ngagchang Konchok Lhundup, Palri Tulku and two groups of practitioners of Phende Legshe Ling (Namgyal Dratsang) performed a ritual fire offering and burnt the interfering spirit. This is the declaration I have written at that time:
 


            To the deities, Legden, Chagdrug, Leshin and Magzor,
            To the oath bound protectors Gongzhi, Gonpo, Chamsre and Begtse, etc.
            Who have been propitiated and whose practice (has been done)
            I offer this sublime libation.
            The so-called Dragpa Gyaltsen pretends to be a sublime being,
            Even though he is not,
            And since this interfering spirit and creature of distorted prayers
            Is harming everything - both the dharma and sentient beings -
            Do not support, protect or give him shelter, but grind him to dust.
 
            To the female protectors like Nodjin Yangghaza, etc. and
            Gyalpo Ku-nga, Khyabjug, Dorje Leg and particularly
            Nechung and his entourage
            I offer this sublime libation.
            The so-called Dragpa Gyaltsen pretends to be a sublime being,
            Even though he is not,
            And since this interfering spirit and creature of distorted prayers
            Is harming everything - both the dharma and sentient beings -
            Do not support, protect or give him shelter, but grind him to dust.
 
            To the seven Barwa brothers like Tse-marpa etc.
            And likewise Setrab of Sangphu etc. - the wrathful gods and spirits
            Among whom this negative spirit seeks support -
            I offer this sublime libation.
            The so-called Dragpa Gyaltsen pretends to be a sublime being,
            Even though he is not,
            And since this interfering spirit and creature of distorted prayers
            Is harming everything - both the dharma and sentient beings -
            Do not support, protect or give him shelter, but grind him to dust.
 
            Having agreed before the root and lineage lama Vajra Dharas
            To increase what is good and beneficial to sentient beings and the dharma,
            If you protect this perfidious spirit,
            Will you not cause your own past pledges to degenerate?
 
            There are groups of interfering spirits who display inopportune miracles
            In the form of human sickness, cattle disease, hailstorms, famine and drought.
            May their power and ability
            Their body, speech and mind be smashed into tiny particles.

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Re: Fifth Dalai Lama
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 05:15:15 PM »
posted by TrinleyKalsang

Here are the issues with this:

1.  "Because of the manipulations of Lag Agyal (the mother) of Gekhasa, the false reincarnation of Tulku Sonam Geleg Palsang (Tulku Dakpa Gyaltsen) got his way (and was installed as the successful candidate)."  The Panchen Rinpoche Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen recognized both the Fifth Dalai Lama and Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen, there is a supplication to his incarnation lineage in his collected works (SPRUL SKU GRAGS PA RGYAL MTSAN GYI SKYES RABS GSOL 'DEBS).  Second, there are number of independent sources that recognize Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen as a valid incarnation.  Even the Fifth Dalai Lama's biography refers to him as this.  So this statement is clearly anachronistic and fabricated.  This can all be proven easily using indepedent sources.

2.  Second there are other issues in this to raise suspicion of its validity of the rest of this content.  Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen didn't die until 1654 (http://www.tbrc.org/kb/tbrc-detail.xq;jsessionid=E4DCA59E6BD8BDA1C48440B5D9881A65?RID=P1729).  Yet this refers to 1636 for Dol spirit harm?!

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Re: Fifth Dalai Lama
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2008, 07:48:12 PM »
Dear TK, look into chirgöl yangdak.

Dear Clayton, I beg you, do not bother try to convince us with things you bring up from the webpage of the Dalai Lama! For heavens sake, this person is incapable of acknowledging truth even if truth would incarnate and dance in front of him. Watch in this website the video where he denies the truths journalists are putting to his consideration, truths from the victims of his attacks, and he has the gall to deny them!

Here we have relatives and friends, that are his direct victims, that he dares say either they don't exist or they are not his responsibility! So please, anything ANYTHING coming from his website or any of his accomplices' is not imho worth looking into it. Because even if they happened to contain partial truths we should spend so much time discriminating truth from lies ... it's really not worth the effort.

And I'm sorry to say, but this is not the moment for distractions. It's very convenient for the Dalai Lama and his followers to try to bring matters back to old ages and misty mystical misteries of Tibet. Wake up and just look at what he is doing NOW!

Independent people that have nothing to do with religion are starting to state the obvious, his wrongdoings in the field of human rights. So you don't have to listen to us.

.....

One more thing. Clayton, if you really have the Dalai Lama as your Guru, then you can take a position like Beggar's, the Global Moderator of this website. I entirely disagree with his position for Dharma reasons, but in your case, at least during the time you want to have the Dalai Lama as your Guru, you might want to ponder taking a similar position. This means that you have to put anything he does in the field of skillful means, but still you have to acknowledge conventional reality. There is no way out. In this case I sincerely think it's not healthy for you to go around reading our writings. Because, either you stubbornly deny their truths, that are conventional truths easily verifiable -and this would not be Buddhist; or you accept them, in which case it's going to be difficult for you to sustain devotion without doubts.
Anyway, all this mess makes people think that one hates them ... we love everybody or at least we try sincerely.
What to say, Clayton, you didn't invent this horrible moment.


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