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General Discussion / Re: Letter to Robert A. F. Thurman by Shamar Rinpoche
« Last post by Alex on Today at 01:04:42 AM »
I am amazed how good Sharma Rinpoche's letter to Robert Thurman totally squashed him like a bug between his fingers. What Sharma Rinpoche wrote is very direct, truthful and strong. There is no way to refute what Sharma Rinpoche wrote because it is the truth and it shows how twisted and hypocritical Robert Thurman is to have come out with the letter in the first place.

Him being the "scholar" here is totally ignorant of how Dalai Lama is NOT involved in the recognition of any Karmapas until the previous Karmapa. His Holiness is a Gelug lama which should not involve or have any authority in recognising High lamas from another sect because he is not the head of all sect of Tibetan Buddhism. Each sect has their own system of recognising their own lamas and they have the head of the sect to do it. Hence, His Holiness the Dalai Lama's intervention in the recognition of the 17th Karmapa is totally uncalled for and inappropriate. It is an act of political move.

This shows that Robert Thurman although being a so-called "scholar" he is not really that scholarly or he is just being a Dalai Lama fanatic who thinks His Holiness the Dalai Lama is the king of the Tibetan Buddhism and he can do whatever he wants. Bob Thurman even wrote in the letter saying that Sharma Rinpoche should agree to His Holiness the Dalai Lama's candidate of Karmapa while Sharma Rinpoche has the full right and authority over the Dalai Lama to recognise the Karmapa himself! What a joke. This shows Bob Thurman is not that "scholarly" after all.
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General Discussion / Letter to Robert A. F. Thurman by Shamar Rinpoche
« Last post by Ringo Starr on January 16, 2019, 01:16:05 PM »
In light of recent developments, this letter from Sharma Rinpoche to Robert Thurman is even more enlightening and exposes the great lies that have been told by the many biased individuals who must have something to gain.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/letter-to-robert-a-f-thurman-by-shamar-rinpoche/

May all the lies being told regarding Dorje Shugden be expelled!

https://www.tilogaard.dk/english/html/answer_to_robert_thurman.html

Bob Thurman, who is the real Karmapa? Please answer.
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General Discussion / Re: ‘Tibetan refugees down from 1.5 lakh to 85,000 in 7 years’
« Last post by Drolma on January 16, 2019, 08:13:09 AM »
There are many reports since a few months ago. It must be very bad. Below is a short excerpt of Indian media reporting about this situation.

The search for home: Why Tibetans are leaving India
For decades, Dharamshala has been the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile and a mini-Tibet in India. But now, the Tibetans are leaving.
INDIA Updated: Apr 05, 2018 09:37 IST

Everyone has a number to offer. Six for Kunsang, four for Lobsang, 13 for Yangzom.

Everyone also has stories to go with the number. Yangzom offers one about her friend, Thinley (Name changed). A decade after fleeing Tibet to come to India, he started getting desperate to return. A teaching job in Mcleodganj and a circle of friends notwithstanding, the separation from his family in Tibet had started overwhelming him. With the Chinese authorities not relenting, the only way he could go back was to cross over into China, clandestinely, from Nepal. He tried doing exactly that, only to be arrested by Chinese authorities and deported back to India.

Had he been successful, Thinley would have been Yangzom Tsering’s 14th Tibetan friend to have left India in the last few years.

Read the full story here. it doesn't paint a nice picture like how Lobsang Sangay wants us to believe. I think they should report how many Tibetans in exile are actually leaving and going back to Tibet, China!

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html

The CTA is not capable and does not have the intention to give the Tibetans a better future, many Tibetans now see it that's why they are leaving India. In the past, the Tibetans try to cross the border to come to Nepal. Now many Tibetans are crossing the border trying to go back to Tibet. This shows that life in Tibet is so much better than in India.

The Chinese government treats the citizens equally. Everyone is given the same opportunity whether in education or in the job market. Special training and programs are launched to help people to acquire more skills and be more competitive. Many Tibetans in Tibet are living out of poverty now as a result of the effort put in by the Chinese government.

The CTA has not really done much to improve the lives of the Tibetans in exile. After 60 years they are still refugees and Lobsang Sangay expects them to remain as refugees for another 50 years. A cause that takes 110 years to be successful is actually a failure. At the end of the day, the CTA really does not want to free Tibet and give the Tibetans a better future. They just want to make use of the refugee status of the Tibetans to beg for free money and make their wallet fatter. The CTA is no different from the old Tibetan government in Tibet.
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This is so confusing, the Dalai Lama always changes his tone. Who should we believe and what to believe? In the beginning, the CTA and the Dalai Lama said the Chinese Panchen Lama was fake. Many campaigns were launched by the CTA to condemn the fake Panchen Lama. Many years later, the Dalai Lama said the fake Panchen Lama might also be a real incarnation of the previous Panchen Lama.

For the Karmapas, it is the same again. The Dalai Lama has never met with the Karmapa Thaye Dorje, this shows that the Dalai Lama does not recognise him as the real Karmapa. Now, the Dalai Lama changed his tone to say the other Karmapa can also be real. Did the Dalai Lama say that because he can no longer control the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley and he thinks he can somehow influence the Karmapa Thaye Dorje to be on his side?

Whatever it is, the CTA cannot keep quiet on the Karmapa issue. They are the authority to tell which Tibetan lamas are fake and which are real. They have put so much effort into condemning the fake Panchen Lama, why are they not doing that for the Kagyu lineage? Isn't it their job to make sure all the Tibetan Buddhist lineages remain pure?


Exactly to the point, Drolma. It's very confusing for the Tibetans, needless to say for non-Tibetans like us. You should have a look at the other thread, The hidden message in the Dalai Lama's speech! here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.0

His Holiness is a really skilled orator and experienced politician. Some people think that in recent years, His Holiness had made many blunders, but I don't think so. I think all these are what His Holiness wants to bring the situation to certain results, although I don't know what  8), I can't judege these high lamas and what they want to do with their skillful means.

Back to the Karmapa, yes CTA as the government should really make it clear who to support and not support. They were the one who made a decision who was real and who was fake in the past. So now that both Karmapas recognised each other as Karmapas, what's next? It could be diplomacy to have unity in Karma Kagyu. But His Holiness the Dalai Lama mentioned that there can only be one Karmapa. So who will be the real official Karmapa?
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General Discussion / Re: Dhardon Shaling got married?
« Last post by Drolma on January 15, 2019, 07:04:59 PM »
I think Dhardon Sharling did not really get married. She paid the man to be her husband and to put up a show. She just wants people to stop talking about her and Lobsang Sangay. However, not many people are as gullible as she thinks. It is a known fact that she and Lobsang Sangay are having an affair.

When I looked at the photos Dhardon Sharling took with the husband I cannot help but burst out laughing. They both look so unnatural in the photos. The husband doesn't hold or touch Dhardon Sharling at all in the photos, he looks extremely awkward. It is as if he is forced to take photos with Dhardon Sharling.

If Dhardon Sharling wants to stop people from talking about her and Lobsang Sangay, she should really keep her distance away from Lobsang Sangay. Faking a marriage can fool some people but most people would not believe it. Dhardon Sharling is wasting her time and money to pay for a man to be her husband.
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General Discussion / Re: Fear that CTA thought they left behind
« Last post by Drolma on January 15, 2019, 06:41:14 PM »
Finally, there is still a Tibetan who is smart and sees what is really going on with CTA. He is right to say Lobsang Sangay is not putting the interest of the Tibetans before himself. He is touring around the western countries to ask for more sympathy and money. He even went to Israel, what was he doing in Israel?

Lobsang Sangay has no intention to strengthen their relationship with their hosting country India, he is not building a closer relationship with Nepal, let alone China. He has never really had any plan for a better regional relationship.

The writer also points out that 20 years ago (which is before the Dorje Shugden ban), Tibetans were in unity, everyone got along very well with each other. But later Tibetans were separated by their differences in faith and political views. If internally there is no unity, then Sangay doesn't have to talk about bringing the Dalai Lama and Tibetans back to Tibet. How to strike a deal when there are so many differences within the Tibetan leadership?

These are desperate times and Lobsang Sangay is grasping at air so any irrelevant countries will do as long as it seems he is making connection or being active. Get himself into the news to remain relevant. Otherwise the sponsors may just overlook or forget him or CTA. He will become a piece of redundant turd (sounds more polite ya). His people hates him and those around him are just looking for crumbs that he doles out. Oh wait! There is Dhardon Sharling that looooves him.

Strike a deal? Forget it. He is not going to be relevant enough for China to even want to see him. They are only interested in the Dalai Lama. The exiled Tibetans should really unite to change their government to a kinder and more caring one that even in the event if they are not able to return to Tibet, they are taken care of with improved living conditions and skills. Someone that respect others and is able to work with the government of India and China to his people's advantage. Wishful thinking?

Lobsang Sangay is not capable and he is useless, the end. He is just an opportunist who wants something for himself. He did not become a politician with the motivation to take care of the welfare of the Tibetans. He is making use of his Sikyong position to build his network and make money for himself.

He has done more harm than good for the years he has been in the CTA. He criminalised Dorje Shugden practitioners, launched books and videos to smear Dorje Shugden, created disharmony among the Tibetans. There are already many problems within the Tibetan community, but instead of resolving the problems, Lobsang Sangay creates more problems.

Lobsang Sangay does not want the Tibetans to go back to Tibet, he does not want to reconcile with the Chinese government. Isn't it clear to see? If he ever reconciles with the Chinese government, he will lose his power and the opportunity to make more money.  He also doesn't want to free Tibet. If Tibet is independent, Lobsang Sangay will have to work harder and more. Besides, he is not capable to lead millions of people. This is probably why Lobsang Sangay keeps creating disharmony within the Tibetan community so that the Tibetans are not united to do the right thing, such as kicking him out from the CTA.
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This is so confusing, the Dalai Lama always changes his tone. Who should we believe and what to believe? In the beginning, the CTA and the Dalai Lama said the Chinese Panchen Lama was fake. Many campaigns were launched by the CTA to condemn the fake Panchen Lama. Many years later, the Dalai Lama said the fake Panchen Lama might also be a real incarnation of the previous Panchen Lama.

For the Karmapas, it is the same again. The Dalai Lama has never met with the Karmapa Thaye Dorje, this shows that the Dalai Lama does not recognise him as the real Karmapa. Now, the Dalai Lama changed his tone to say the other Karmapa can also be real. Did the Dalai Lama say that because he can no longer control the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley and he thinks he can somehow influence the Karmapa Thaye Dorje to be on his side?

Whatever it is, the CTA cannot keep quiet on the Karmapa issue. They are the authority to tell which Tibetan lamas are fake and which are real. They have put so much effort into condemning the fake Panchen Lama, why are they not doing that for the Kagyu lineage? Isn't it their job to make sure all the Tibetan Buddhist lineages remain pure?
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General Discussion / Prince Harry and wife reads a book by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso
« Last post by mountains on January 15, 2019, 05:53:31 PM »
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex engaged in talking to a monk of NKT. Prince Harry is seen here with his wife chatting with Kelsang Sonam of NKT and Prince Harry is very interested.

"Harry sipped on a coffee before being introduced to Buddhist monk Kelsang Sonam, 69, and discussing his love of meditation. “It’s great,” Harry said of the practice, before being given a copy of Eight Steps to Happiness: The Buddhist Way of Loving Kindness. “I’ll be reading this,” he said, thanking Sonam.

The book which Prince Harry was given was authored by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso.
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General Discussion / Re: The Hypocrisy of Wisdom Publications
« Last post by Drolma on January 15, 2019, 05:14:59 PM »
This is really something I don't understand. The anti-Shugden people are very firm in not wanting to have anything to do with Dorje Shugden followers. They don't want to befriend with Dorje Shugden followers, they refuse to talk to them and they always abuse Dorje Shugden followers verbally sometimes physically. But yet they are studying the texts written by very devoted Dorje Shugden Lamas.

The text Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand is the result of Pabongka Rinpoche's teaching in Lhasa. This book is widely used by the Gelugpas all around the world. If the anti-Shugden people think Dorje Shugden followers are demon worshippers, why are they studying the text written by Pabongka Rinpoche who was a very devoted Dorje Shugden practitioner?  In the monastery, they are still studying the text written by Panchen Sonam Drakpa who was one of the incarnations of Dorje Shugden.

What these anti-Shugden people are doing does not make sense. On the one hand, they say Dorje Shugden followers are demon worshipper so they are impure. But on the other hand, they are studying the text written by Dorje Shugden Lamas. Won't that make them impure too?
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General Discussion / Re: CTA's useless Sikyong and DIIR Kalon Lobsang Sangay
« Last post by Drolma on January 15, 2019, 04:56:56 PM »
I think Lobsang Sangay is just a greedy man who wants money, fame, and women. It shows how naive the Tibetans are when they voted for Lobsang Sangay the first time knowing he didn't have any plan for them. If he didn't have a plan for the Tibetans, why did he want to become the Sikyong?

Clearly, Lobsang Sangay has other agenda. He must have taken a lot of money and gotten a lot of benefits during his first term of Sikyong, that was why he wants to continue with the 2nd term. Life as the Sikyong is very easy. He doesn't have to deliver anything to the Tibetans. All he has to do is to fly on a first class plane, stay in a 5-star hotel, go to some fancy restaurants and beg for free money.

If Lobsang Sangay can run a country and bring benefits to the Tibetans, the Tibetans community would not be divided into so many fractions. He is the one who created the disharmony among the Tibetan community by condemning Dorje Shugden practitioners. He even spent lots of money to produce books and videos to smear Dorje Shugden. He is a useless Sikyong.
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