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General Discussion / Re: Dalai Lama Said Tibet Can Be with China
« Last post by Rowntree on Today at 08:19:18 AM »
His Holiness has said this many times but to China, Tibet has always been part of the motherland. China is also in dispute with India on Arunachal Pradesh and some parts of Assam and claimed those states as South Tibet. China is obnoxious in claiming for lands that may not necessarily theirs. In addition, China is also ignoring the 17th point contract, the McMohan Line etc. and did not carry out any of the agreement signed. I wonder what His Holiness has in mind in working with the Chinese since he is labeled as the separatist and openly criticised the Chinese leadership, among all others, including Trump.
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General Discussion / Dalai Lama Said Tibet Can Be with China
« Last post by michaela on Today at 05:35:05 AM »
An article from the Hindu that mentioned the Dalai Lama’s statement that Tibet can be part of China if Beijing guarantees the region’s culture and autonomy.

The Dalai Lama also mentioned that Tibet could benefit economically by staying in China and Chinese citizens could gain from Tibetan Buddhism.

The Dalai Lama is likely to tour India throughout the year although back in March it was mentioned that the Dalai Lama would cut down his travel due to exhaustion.


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Tibet can be in China: Dalai Lama

Says times have changed and economic cooperation is a rational option

Tibet can remain a part of China, if Beijing guarantees the region’s culture and autonomy, the Dalai Lama said on Sunday. Tibet could benefit economically by staying in China and Chinese citizens could gain from Tibetan Buddhism, he said in a lecture to commemorate the 60th anniversary of his exile to India.

Tibet could benefit economically by staying in China and Chinese citizens could gain from Tibetan Buddhism, he said in a lecture to commemorate the 60th anniversary of his exile to India. “Historically and culturally, Tibet has been independent. The region’s geography shows where Tibet begins. So long as the constitution of China recognises our culture and Tibetan autonomous region’s special history, they can remain [part of China],” he said in the lecture organised by the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library and the Antar-Rashtriya Sahayog Parishad.

The lecture is one of the events planned to celebrate the anniversary of the Dalai Lama’s arrival in India in the late 1950s. The celebrations began earlier this month with a big event at Dharamsala. The Dalai Lama is likely to tour India throughout the year.

However, the Dalai Lama underscored the importance of Tibetan identity and argued that Tibet had been an independent unit in the past, and therefore had a special place in the world. The times had changed, he said, and economic cooperation was the more rational option.

“There was a time when every French looked at the Germans as enemies. But today they are in the European Union. Similarly, we can work together,” he said.

Modi-Xi meet

His remarks are significant as he avoided mentioning Tibetan independence and explained how cooperation and unity could usher in development and peace. The statements are also expected to set the background for the talks between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping, who will have an informal summit on April 27 and 28, the first meeting since China removed the term-limit for the post of President.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/tibet-can-be-in-china-dalai-lama/article23638823.ece
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Seriously, H.H. Dalai Lama, what is the difference between the discrimination against Dorje Shugden devotees and the Indian caste system?

The Indian caste system had been in place even before democracy in India and still the equality constitution of democracy cannot help to eliminate the caste system totally.

Then how about the so called democracy of the Central Tibetan Authority?  Are they able to practise democracy and permit religious freedom in the Tibetan exile communities.

True very true what you said and VERY GOOD QUESTION you ask about their so-called democracy. It is basically all just for show to the West in order for them to gain more sympathy and funds! All that FREE and EASY money for them TAX-FREE! That's right India does not tax them for all these donations that comes pouring into creating their golden temples! I saw this meme around Twitter and I must say whoever did this summarised it very well. And this is why Indians are getting really pissed off with Tibetan refugees. They keep sucking up all of India's resources but gives back very little. Just look at the huge difference between the locals and the Tibetans living there and you'll know what I mean!

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Praise to Nyatrul

Praise to Nyari Tulku the great Tamdrin Yangsang Tantric Master.
You who have sung Tamdrin Yangsang's mantra millions of times.
You who were so cruelly murdered arose as the avenging spirit Nyatrul.
No one, no Lama, no Geshe, no Tulku could or can ever destroy you the great Black Hat Master.
No one can subdue the great Nyari Tulku because you hold the “POWER OF TRUTH”.
Innocent of all crimes accused by the 13th Dalai Lama, his Government and the corrupt Nechung Oracle.
As they skinned you alive from head to toe you cursed them all with you righteous vengence.
You cursed them all with your "POWER OF TRUTH".
Avenge yourself Nyatrul for all their evil crimes against you.
Let their blood and essence be repayment to you the great avenging spirit Nyatrul.


OM NYATRUL HUM PHET
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General Discussion / Re: The Dalai Lama criticized caste system in Indian
« Last post by Celia on April 23, 2018, 02:07:54 PM »
For someone who is a guest in India for the last 60 years, HHDL really should not be criticising India's culture.


Agreed especially given the Dalai Lama’s (poor) timing for such comments. Already many unhappy Indians are really dissatisfied with Tibetans and have taken to the streets as well as the Internet to protest against Tibetans. In fact, many Indians are harping on how Tibetans freeloaded from India enough for the past 60 years and feels strongly that Tibetans should leave India http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/indians-openly-demand-tibetans-go-home/ ; http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/indians-express-the-truth-about-the-dalai-lama-and-the-tibetans/

Such statement from Dalai Lama at this juncture would definitely not work to the best interest of Tibetans.

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Tsem Tulku's two minute youtube video "Why Doesn't Any High Lama Send Dorje Shugden into the Light" is part of a much larger video.

That youtube video is titled, "In the Face of Dorje Shugden, are the High Lamas of Tibet Impotent".

Here is the link,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bj0254UG-Y

As its title implies Tsem Tulku claims no High Tibetan Lama can subdue Dorje Shugden.

That Dorje Shugden is stronger than any High Tibetan Lama, even the 13th and 14th Dalai Lama's.

But Dorje Shugden's history tells all of us a different story than what Tsem Tulku is publicly claiming.

Without the help of SETRAP our Dorje Shugden would now be dead.

We never would of known about King Dorje Shugden.

So "are the High Lamas of Tibet Impotent"?

NO!
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Ouch!!! painful to even think that Sangay dares to talk about democracy and his audacity to redefine the very basic concept of democracy to suit his conduct and ends.

Sangay is not even prepared to be accountable to the funds donated for the welfare of Tibetans and in real democracy he will be charged with embezzlement and impeached. 

Dictators cannot be impeached but a democratically elected president can. What are you Lobsang Sangay?
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Seriously, H.H. Dalai Lama, what is the difference between the discrimination against Dorje Shugden devotees and the Indian caste system?

The Indian caste system had been in place even before democracy in India and still the equality constitution of democracy cannot help to eliminate the caste system totally.

Then how about the so called democracy of the Central Tibetan Authority?  Are they able to practise democracy and permit religious freedom in the Tibetan exile communities. 
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General Discussion / Re: China clamping down on troublemakers
« Last post by Rowntree on April 23, 2018, 03:40:17 AM »
China is known to get people to spy on others for them. They also set up spy centers to spy on many on the world scale. In return, they will be worried that others will do the same for them so it makes sense for them to make it official to seek help from hunting those who spy on them. Looking at the range of reward they are ready to give, it is clear that they will make sure spies be caught, especially those they view as separatist such as Tibetans.
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General Discussion / Re: Tai Situ Rinpoche Criticizes Sakya and Gelug Lamas
« Last post by dsnowlion on April 22, 2018, 10:22:02 PM »
“Regarding King Shugden, I already just said his name. In [the Tibetan] psyche, it’s very frightening to even say his name.” ~ Tai Situ Rinpoche

Wow! Isn’t this rich coming from the 2nd highest person in charge of the Karma Kagyu sect? If Tai Situ Rinpoche is so afraid to mention a so-called spirit, Dorje Shugden, then is he really an emanation of the Buddha Maitreya? Why does Tai Situ incite unfounded fear among Tibetans and publicly humiliate Tibetan Buddhism by saying a high lama of his calibre cannot handle a mere spirit? He should follow the example of his great teacher His Holiness the 16th Karmapa Rangjung Rigpe Dorje who was well-known to respect all traditions. 

It is extremely disappointing, not to mention unfitting for a lama of his status to take part in political propaganda and create more schism among the already divided Tibetan community. By criticising Dorje Shugden, he is also criticising every Sakya and Gelug lineage master who has practised Dorje Shugden. Tai Situ is himself not without fault. He has caused huge rifts and schism within his own Karma Kagyu tradition by purposely installing his own Karmapa candidate and even had his candidate endorsed by the Dalai Lama. Tai Situ Rinpoche has no right to speak about, let alone criticize another tradition’s practices or masters, especially since they are not related to his own lineage.
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