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pemachen

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The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« on: April 03, 2018, 02:58:05 PM »
The Tibet Cause has lost its luster and reduced to a mere ploy to appeal for donations from wealthy donors since nothing significant was done to solve the issues in the past 60 years.

Tibetans living abroad have lost interest in the plight of Tibet and the Tibetan leadership now throws the responsibilities to other countries, such as India and the United States to solve their issues. The sad thing is the Trump Administration does not have the slightest interest in the Tibetan Cause as they have not appointed a Special Coordinator for Tibetan issues since last year. Trump visited Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican, the three major sacred places of Islam, Christianity and Judaism on his international tour, but he has not met with the Dalai Lama since taking office in 2017, and it's obvious that Trump is not interested in meeting with him.

The Indian government has also recently changed its attitude to snub the Tibetan leadership, asking senior leaders and government functionaries to stay away from the Central Tibetan Administration's (CTA) events. The bottom line is that the Tibetan cause is a jinx, and nobody wants to fight for a lost cause or even go anywhere near it.



The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India
your say April 03, 2018 01:00

On June 21 last year, US Congress members of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission (TLHRC) petitioned President Trump to quickly name a Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues.

But according to the US Department of State website, this position is still vacant. Appointing a Special Coordinator for Tibet, though, is just one important step in solving the rights crisis of Tibetans.

First and foremost the TLHRC and US Congress should realise that the human rights problems in Tibet can be overcome much more easily if India plays a proactive role. The Indian government currently has little interest in helping resolve the problem of Chinese repression over the border. Likewise the millions of Tibetans living abroad have mainly lost interest in the plight of Tibet since nothing has happened during the past 60 years to solve the problem. The impetus for change is coming from within China, among the 3 million to 6 million Tibetans who live there. But change will only come via a political solution that has the backing of the US (Congress and the administration) as we’ll as other international actors. Fortunately there are many Indians who are prepared to work towards, and even prepared to take pains in, solving the Tibet problem.

The TLHRC should again urge President Trump to name a Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues, but also to support any registered organisation in India (political or otherwise) – preferably through the National Rights Commission of India – which will work for the solution of the Tibet problem. Such organisations should also be able to spur the government of India into taking a proactive role.

Hem Raj Jain (Author of “Betrayal of Americanism”)
Bengaluru, India



Link to original article: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/your_say/30342319
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Pema8

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 04:43:49 PM »
Nobody has real interest to support the Tibetan Cause because there is not much to gain with the Tibetans. This is very different when it comes to China. Everybody wants to be friend with China as such a strong partner can open doors and provide much growth for any country.

The US with the new administration have made it clear that their country is first and as no special coordinator for Tibetan issues is appointed is just a confirmation that the Tibetans are not helpful for them.

On the other hand is India befriending China and the Indian Government does not want to be involved with the Tibetans to avoid anything that might upset China.

Times are bad for the Tibetans in exile nowadays!

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2018, 12:48:45 AM »
This new article drives the point of the pointlessness of the Tibetan cause. http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/india-gives-up-tibet-card/

In short, as set out in the article, there is no strong basis for such 'Tibet Card' historically considering India’s official stance pertaining to Tibet as being an inherent part of China and in more modern times, arguably there is no ‘Tibet card’ because the Dalai Lama himself does not want independence.

Taking the above into account, it is either there is no such card to play or it doesn’t make any sense for India to play the Tibet card so to speak considering the absence of any benefit to do so. Either way, it marks the end of unfettered support to CTA.

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2018, 01:15:30 AM »
Typical of Tibetan Leadership to just throw their responsibility on someone else. Since the cannot get the support from the USA, hence no Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues haha, they try to lump it on India!

Well, luckily the Indian government is not so dumb and even at the "Thank You India" event they mentioned that they are happy and they support the Dalai Lama's return to Tibet. WHat does that say to you? Well, it says to me very clearly they are encouraging Dalai Lama along with all His followers to please go back to your country and find your own resolution which you will need "a lot of luck" said the minister in the event!

The CTA sure needs a lot of luck because at the rate Sangay is going, notice he was the only one slamming China down in his speech at the event. No one else said anything/mentioned the word China, they were very diplomatic, even His Holiness was diplomatic. So at the rate Sangay is going, look forward to another 6 decades of nothing! Good Luck!

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2018, 10:56:46 PM »
The Tibet cause is a lost cause. If India can help, it would be back in the 1950's. Nehru had decided to let go of Tibet by not going to war with China. Instead, giving the Tibetans refuge in India was a big mistake assuming the Tibetans will do their best in fighting for their cause. The Tibetans have in the past 60 years abusing the overwhelmed moral and financial support from overseas. Instead of using it to the advantage of the cause, Lobsang Sangay and the Kashag led by him embezzled the sum for their personal use. This is not anything new as the world of politic is the world of corruption everywhere we go, but to corrupt to the core of it is and challenge the people the CTA should service arrogantly is unacceptable. It is time for Lobsang Sangay to be impeached and perhaps allowed Lukar Jam to take on the position and make positive changes.

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2018, 08:58:08 PM »
It is time for Lobsang Sangay to be impeached and perhaps allowed Lukar Jam to take on the position and make positive changes.


I think so too! I think Lukar Jam is so far the best candidate. He can think broader than this Lobsang Sangay who is only focused on self-gratifying and self-gain.


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I am confident I will resolve this controversy, which is threatening to tear apart the Tibetan community. To me Shugden is a small issue, but due to the mistaken policies we have made it a big issue, basically we have blown it out of proportion. Shugden is a matter of worshipping a spirit, that too a Geluka spirit. We can’t have a monolithic view of Shugden worshippers. We have to know that there are different types of Shugden practitioners: there are those Shuden practitioners, who openly collude with our enemy, the Chinese government, as revealed by Lama Tseta. Then there are those who quietly practice the deity, while also acknowledging that they believe in the Dalai Lama. We also have to take into account that there are mischievous people harming the Tibetan cause in the name of loyalty to the Dalai Lama, in the name of fighting the Shugden worshippers. We have to have a nuanced, comprehensive policy that will tackle this issue. http://lukar2016.com/manifesto/

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2018, 11:31:39 PM »
When I read the article, one question came into my mind. Why is India thrown in the position to help the Tibetans? They have given Tibetans the refuge in their moment of crisis, the hospitality that continues for 60 years because the Tibetans are becoming too comfortable while enjoying their tax-free lives in India.

Why now they have to put in the resources to to solve sino-Tibetan issue, while for the Tibetans in exile, the Tibet Cause is no more than lip service to appeal for donation. Can't the Tibetans solve their own problems?

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2018, 11:38:20 PM »
When I read the article, one question came into my mind. Why is India thrown in the position to help the Tibetans? They have given Tibetans the refuge in their moment of crisis, the hospitality that continues for 60 years because the Tibetans are becoming too comfortable while enjoying their tax-free lives in India.

Why now they have to put in the resources to to solve sino-Tibetan issue, while for the Tibetans in exile, the Tibet Cause is no more than lip service to appeal for donation. Can't the Tibetans solve their own problems?

Tibetans have been doing that for the past six decades. Until now, they are still waiting for international aid and waiting for other countries to help them out of the exile predicament. It is impossible any country will risk their relations with China and speak for the Tibetan cause. Perhaps the American Congress members,  but I doubt Trump wants to get involved with the Tibetans.  8)

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2018, 07:04:45 PM »
Tibetans have been doing that for the past six decades. Until now, they are still waiting for international aid and waiting for other countries to help them out of the exile predicament. It is impossible any country will risk their relations with China and speak for the Tibetan cause. Perhaps the American Congress members,  but I doubt Trump wants to get involved with the Tibetans.  8)

You are right. I have not heard of any other refugees who have done this for six decades! And why are they always creating issues everywhere they go? Can't they just abide by their host country's law? Why do they have to rock the boat? They should take up Indian citizenship and go on with their lives if they do not want to return to Tibet. They should really wake already if they have not, no one is going to back them up anymore. Everyone is tired and most of all tired of their corrupt exile government who only knows how cause problems and divide people.

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2019, 09:57:35 AM »
Tibet cause definitely is a lost cause. It has already been 60 years but there is no progress at all. No cause will take 60 years to succeed or even more. Lobsang Sangay once said he will continue to fight for 50 years which means he also does not see any progress for the next 10, 20 years.

Just how long does CTA wants Tibetans to wait for them to fulfil their promise of bringing them back to Tibet? CTA continues to condemn China, how is that going to help the Tibetans? The Dalai Lama wants Middle Way approach, CTA should just follow what the Dalai Lama wants.

The Dalai Lama is already very old, it is his wish to go back to Tibet after so many years living in India. Tibet is his home. He has done so much for the Tibetans in exile, CTA should show some appreciation to the Dalai Lama.

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2019, 05:30:48 AM »
Tibetan cause has lost its meaning and action for it. Who really wants to support this cause for 60 years and see no effort from the CTA but just keep using it to ask for a donation. Even the US is cutting its interest as it doesn’t bring any benefit to them already. The sympathy card from CTA no longer can be used because it’s obvious that CTA just uses the cause to ask for money and nothing has been done from there. What makes the situation bad is that there is more and more negative news from CTA that makes people lose confidence.

The influence of the Chinese makes the situation from bad to worse as this directly affects Tibetan from the Indian government. Not many will go against China just for the Tibetan cause and CTA should really look for an alternative plan.

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Re: The key to resolving Tibetans’ suffering is India?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2019, 09:37:45 AM »
Tibetan cause has lost its meaning and action for it. Who really wants to support this cause for 60 years and see no effort from the CTA but just keep using it to ask for a donation. Even the US is cutting its interest as it doesn’t bring any benefit to them already. The sympathy card from CTA no longer can be used because it’s obvious that CTA just uses the cause to ask for money and nothing has been done from there. What makes the situation bad is that there is more and more negative news from CTA that makes people lose confidence.

The influence of the Chinese makes the situation from bad to worse as this directly affects Tibetan from the Indian government. Not many will go against China just for the Tibetan cause and CTA should really look for an alternative plan.

The key to resolving Tibetans' suffering is the CTA and Tibetans themselves. After 60 years of struggle, everyone can see that Tibet cause is a lost cause, there is no point to continue to fight for Tibet's independence. Even the Dalai Lama has given up this dream.

What the Dalai Lama wants now is Middle Way approach, he only wants autonomous status for Tibet. The Dalai Lama has realised China is too strong to fight with. Besides, China has also proved to be a good leader as it has improved the living standard of the Tibetans tremendously.

India has helped the Tibetans for 60 years, it is a long time. It is not fair to want India to continue to support the Tibetans and not giving anything back to India. Without the kindness of India, the Tibetans would not have a place to preserve their culture and religion. India has been kind to them, they should not ask for more from India.