Author Topic: Lobsang Sangay- still asking help from India after 60 years of help given!  (Read 62170 times)

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Since Lobsang Sangay refused to do anything and continue to let the Tibetans in exile to sufffer, they have finally woken up from the delusion of relying the CTA to return to Tibet. Many Tibetans in exile now leave India and have decided to move on. After all, you don't really need 60 years to figure that your leadership who listened to a "spirit" Nechung failed!

The Tibetans waited for 60 years not because they believe in the CTA but because of the Dalai Lama. They are devoted followers of the Dalai Lama and they took the risk to escape Tibet so that they can be close to him.  Now that the Dalai Lama is old and they don't see how it will be possible for them to go back to Tibet once the Dalai Lama enters into clear light.

Instead of waiting for the CTA to do something for them, the Tibetans decide to make a plan for themselves and move on. They may not have lost their faith in the Dalai Lama but most of them have lost their faith in the CTA. What have the CTA done for the Tibetans in the last 60 years? Nothing. They did not free Tibet, they did not establish a good relationship with China, they do not have a plan for the Tibetans.

I feel sorry for the Tibetans, they are the luckiest refugees in the world. With so much support and help from people all around the world, the CTA could have done more to protect the Tibetans, to preserve their culture and religion but they are only focusing on benefitting themselves and neglect the welfare of the Tibetans. 60 years is enough for someone to wait for something good to happen. If nothing good has happened, it is time to move on.

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Lobsang Sangay is trying all his best to create the spark between China and India. India is Sangya only hope now and if they buy in that going to give Sangya some hope to take ore advantage and may be some fund. But looking at the situation now, no one dare to go against China and in fact a lot of country leader would rather be friend with China than Tibet. No way India will go against China and we will see how India changes their way treating the Tibetan.

Sangay should actually start to be friend China as this is the only way to benefit them as we can see most country already close their door for Dalai Lama. It’s been a long 60 years and how long more CTA want to fight for it? The world is also questioning that why Tibet at one hand crying for freedom from China but on the other hand they imposed ban on Shugden practice to their own people and blame the protector practice for effecting their cause. How long more CTA want to play this foolish game as the world is really eyeing on them.

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Lobsang Sangay is trying all his best to create the spark between China and India. India is Sangya only hope now and if they buy in that going to give Sangya some hope to take ore advantage and may be some fund. But looking at the situation now, no one dare to go against China and in fact a lot of country leader would rather be friend with China than Tibet. No way India will go against China and we will see how India changes their way treating the Tibetan.

Sangay should actually start to be friend China as this is the only way to benefit them as we can see most country already close their door for Dalai Lama. It’s been a long 60 years and how long more CTA want to fight for it? The world is also questioning that why Tibet at one hand crying for freedom from China but on the other hand they imposed ban on Shugden practice to their own people and blame the protector practice for effecting their cause. How long more CTA want to play this foolish game as the world is really eyeing on them.

China's door has already closed when they release their latest white paper on Tibet with a significant shift from the last version. They no longer include the willingness to engage with His Holiness the Dalai Lama. It means China is now no longer interested or feel compelled to engage in His Holiness in any matter relating to Tibet.

It has been 60 years since China invaded Tibet and they have been investing tons of funds into Tibet ranging from secular to religious matter. They are working their best to preserve Tibet's rich culture develop that country. Since then, many infrastructures have been built such as highways and airports. On top of that, China did not neglect the people as well. Self-help workshops are held for free to educate the public and give them the skill to increase their chances of surviving independently in society.

Contrary to what the Tibetan government has been telling everyone, Tibet is getting prosperous now. The poverty rate now in Tibet is around 7%, and soon it will be 0% in a few years, promised by the Chinese government. It is better than the time when the Tibetan government in charge and the serfdom system in place.

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I wonder why Tibetans can put up with Lobsang Sangay for this long. Is it because there is no one else who is more capable than Lobsang Sangay or Tibetans have just given up on CTA and so it doesn't matter to them who runs the government? Perhaps the Tibetans have accepted the fact that the CTA is incapable and it is better for them to move on.

If Lobsang Sangay is capable, he would not have asked India to continue to help him. Instead of asking India to help and waiting to be led by India, Lobsang Sangay should give a good proposal to India on what he can do to help India to build a better relationship with China and how is he going to bring Tibetans back to Tibet. At this stage, Lobsang Sangay is still arrogant and refuse to admit their failure.

The CTA is a pathetic leadership. They did not make the life of the Tibetans in India any better and they failed to maintain a good relationship with India who has hosted them for 60 years. Instead of giving back, they keep asking for more!

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What a shame for CTA after 60 years still unable to self-sustain. CTA would rather use the funding for printing anti-shugden materials. What’s the point? Why don’t CTA use the funding to improve the welfare of the Tibetans and at the same time work hard to befriend China. Stop all work that will irritate China.

At the meantime, promote China and let world see that how far CTA left behind and just sit and wait. CTA should take this opportunity to unite all the Tibetan regardless of whether they are Shugden practitioners. 

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I wonder why Tibetans can put up with Lobsang Sangay for this long. Is it because there is no one else who is more capable than Lobsang Sangay or Tibetans have just given up on CTA and so it doesn't matter to them who runs the government? Perhaps the Tibetans have accepted the fact that the CTA is incapable and it is better for them to move on.

If Lobsang Sangay is capable, he would not have asked India to continue to help him. Instead of asking India to help and waiting to be led by India, Lobsang Sangay should give a good proposal to India on what he can do to help India to build a better relationship with China and how is he going to bring Tibetans back to Tibet. At this stage, Lobsang Sangay is still arrogant and refuse to admit their failure.

The CTA is a pathetic leadership. They did not make the life of the Tibetans in India any better, and they failed to maintain a good relationship with India who has hosted them for 60 years. Instead of giving back, they keep asking for more!

It is evident that the Tibetans in exile lost hope in their government. They have suffered their bad leadership for 60 years in India, and all of them would have lost their dream of getting back to Tibet with their government a long time ago. They all know that they will not be returning to a free Tibet anytime soon.

In the past 60 years, there were plenty of opportunities for CTA to get back Tibet's independence from China. However, they are too busy fighting petty internal conflicts and focusing on their own needs. Hence, 60 years have passed, and China had grown to be one of the most powerful countries in the world, and they had invested a lot into Tibet. They will never let Tibet go or give it back to the Tibetans.

What the Tibetans in exile can do for now is to return to Tibet which is under the Chinese government. Recently, the Chinese government had opened their arms to those Tibetans in exile that wants to go back to Tibet. It is a great opportunity, and they should make a move before China changes her mind. Going back to Tibet is a way better option compared to stay in India under the governance of a failed government.

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Lobsang Sangay will continue to ask for help even for the next 60 years.
Why? CTA is here to take and not to give.... not to give to the Tibetan for their welfare, future and development for their next generation. Up to now what actually Lobsang Sangay had achieve in benefiting Tibetan in India?

How long more Lobsang Sangay want to take the advantage from the sponsors and Tibetans? after 60 years long, why no one dare to ask Lobsang Sangay why after 60 years Tibetan is still in India and instead of good news we keep seeing news about scandal after scandals. How long more to wait?

What Lobsang Sangay really need to do is make friend with China and don't irritate them.This is very important!

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Lobsang Sangay and the rest of the members of CTA are not interested to work for the Tibetans. They don't want to work hard, they love taking free money from the sponsors. To them, the Tibet issue is not something bad to them. They see it as an opportunity to get easy money for themselves.

For the past 60 years, they have been living a life of a beggar. They collect many cases of how people are sufferings or taking things out of context to show how they are victimised so they can get financial aids from people. This has actually become their culture.

Therefore, it is very natural for Lobsang Sangay to ask India for help. They think people have the obligation to help them because they are victims. But they are the luckiest refugees in the world. If you compared their lives, they things they own, you will see how they are pampered and how they have become lazier and ungrateful.

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This type of aid at one point will end. How long do you think you can keep on with the cause? Look what China has done on Tibet after taking over. Has Tibetan in China been torture? has Tibetan welfare not been taken care? Are the Tibetan in hunger? NO.

China put in the effort and resource to make Tibet a tourist place and this directly gives Tibetan more opportunity in term of financial. A lot of monastery and buildings been refurbished to preserve the culture and tradition of Tibetan. It may seem to look like for China tourism interest but it still brings benefit to the Tibetan in term of preservation. Tibetan in China has a lot more to gain here.

But what has Lobsang Sangay does for the Tibetan in India? what opportunity has he developed for the people there? What benefit has he brought for the Tibetan in India? Up to now after 60 years Tibetan still have to depend on donation and sponsorship. Don't you think this so insecure and understand that the sponsorship are a huge amount but why the Tibetan welfare have not improved?

The future for the Tibetan in India really in the dark with CTA.

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This type of aid at one point will end. How long do you think you can keep on with the cause? Look what China has done on Tibet after taking over. Has Tibetan in China been torture? has Tibetan welfare not been taken care? Are the Tibetan in hunger? NO.

China put in the effort and resource to make Tibet a tourist place and this directly gives Tibetan more opportunity in term of financial. A lot of monastery and buildings been refurbished to preserve the culture and tradition of Tibetan. It may seem to look like for China tourism interest but it still brings benefit to the Tibetan in term of preservation. Tibetan in China has a lot more to gain here.

But what has Lobsang Sangay does for the Tibetan in India? what opportunity has he developed for the people there? What benefit has he brought for the Tibetan in India? Up to now after 60 years Tibetan still have to depend on donation and sponsorship. Don't you think this so insecure and understand that the sponsorship are a huge amount but why the Tibetan welfare have not improved?

The future for the Tibetan in India really in the dark with CTA.

The world can see what China had done for Tibet and how the old Tibet was when compared to the Tibet now. It is clear to everyone that China invested so much into Tibet to develop it into what it is today. Without the investment from China, it is impossible for Tibet to develop so much in such a short amount of time.

Tibetans clearly did not have the ability to do the same and hence they are quite jealous of China's achievements in Tibet. That is why CTA keep talking bad about China and tell lies of how China is abusing the Tibetans in Tibet to garner support on their side. They know clearly the human rights situation is the current main topic for a fellow YouTuber who has quite a lot of views on his channel.

That is why Tibetans keep getting support on countries who fight for human rights and also countries that do not like China. Since then, China has progressed to be one of the strongest countries in the world and no one dares to criticize them anymore. That is why the donation that the CTA gets is much lesser compared to last time. Soon, when all the countries in the world decided to follow China, CTA will lose their support and donations completely it will be a tragic fall for the CTA.

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The failure of CTA is unable to make themselves self-sustain and the failure to be transparent. I believe to be given another 100 years Lobsang Sangay will continue to ask help from India because it's easy and convenient. Lobsang Sangay will not work out to meet the Chinese to work out something to make Tibetan back to Tibet reason being it's too many things to do and they may see if they return to Tibet they will lose their opportunity to look for money.

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What kind of government till asks for help after 60 years? Tibetans have been a refugee for over half a century with no progress on their Tibetan cause. India has been super kind and patient with them because there is no one country in the world will host a refugee for 60 years.

On top of that, India gave aid to them every now and then. However, the Tibetans being the ungrateful people they are, they did not appreciate the help that they get and created a lot of problems for them. This is how Tibetans repay the kindness that they received.

India should not help the Tibetans anymore. They should just send them back to Tibet because having them in the country is harming the Indians and it is not worth it. 60 years of kindness and patience is a lot and India should not bear the responsibility of the Tibetans in exile since their own government is not working hard enough to care for their own people.

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What kind of government till asks for help after 60 years? Tibetans have been a refugee for over half a century with no progress on their Tibetan cause. India has been super kind and patient with them because there is no one country in the world will host a refugee for 60 years.

It is amazing how Lobsang Sangay still does nothing for the Tibetan exile community in his second term. I guess the Tibetans around the world can't do much anyway because they are in exile and do not have much say as 'refugees' leeching on various host countries. His 5-50 plan is just something that sounds nice to fool the public. Tell me how many Tibetans can afford to wait for another 50 years? It's already going on the 2nd generation of Tibetans in exile, they want to wait for another generation or two to 'get their country back'?  Even now it's already impossible.  :-X


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As long as it's Lobsang Sangey, Tibetan will just keep depending on donations until Dalai Lama enters clear light the CTA will be gone. This is because CTA actually has nothing and they only depend on Dalai Lama reputation and fame. Lobsang Sangay never creates something from himself to benefit Tibetan. Hence, he's nothing at all. The faith of the Tibetans under Lobsang Sangay is at risk and Lobsang has US citizens. He can fly first if anything bad happened. Lobsang Sangey is not here to help the Tibetan but pretty much for the self-interest. It's sad to see the Tibetans under such leaders.

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It is amazing that Lobsang Sangay still serves as the President of the CTA after years of disappointment and no results. However, Tibetans in exile are slowly moving further away from CTA as they see that there is no change and improvement in their life after 60 years of being a refugee.

Many Tibetans had moved out of India and many of them found success in the country that they are in. This shows that Tibetans can make it and they are just lacking the opportunity to be successful which CTA can't and won't give.

The CTA wants to keep all the Tibetans in India so that they can use the Tibetans to get donations from the whole world. They manipulated the Tibetans and the sponsors into believing how pity they are and they do not have anywhere else that they can go. That is their main intention.