All your acrobatics
Then demanding proof of your unwarranted accusations is “acrobatics” in your dictionary, is it?
And cowardly evading giving such proof is what then in your dictionary? The honorable act of a man?
is about one thing only - to avoid demanding proof from the Kelsangs that justifies their hurtful and baseless accusations that Tijang Choktrul Rinpoche is fake.
If you want such proof from them, ask directly them for it, not me. Since it's you, not me, interested in this proof, why should I do your job?
Asking such proof from me is your own acrobatics, aimed at evading your duty to give hard evidence in support of your irresponsible, slanderous statement against Geshe Kelsang Gyatso
Every demand you have made of me, should first be directed to the NKT for first accusing then publishing material/allowing to be published to defame Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche.
Who slandered Geshe Kelsang Gyatso with sordid accusations against him was you; therefore you and only you are responsible for the proof of your sordid accusations.
But instead of honorably offering such proof, as though you had one, you cowardly try to hide behind NKT's own misdeeds, as though such misdeeds would exempt you from your duty.
The fact is, you have no proof at all showing that Geshe Kelsang Gyatso is the one behind the slanderous statements against Trijang Choktrul, and therefore you are guilty of slander against the holy lama.
It is reasonable for anyone to make the assumption that the anti-Trijang stance is an official NKT position since various statements to the effect have been made by NKT office bearers and the Open Letter defaming Trijang Choktrul is still on the NKT's official website (http://kadampa.org/2017/03/open-letter-international-shugden-buddhist-community-isbc).
That NKT perpetrated such slander is not just an assumption, but rather a demonstrated fact. But NKT is not necessarily Geshe Kelsang Gyatso.
If the NKT's good name has been misused by "bad students" (and this case, you are accusing Kelsang Rabten and Kelsang Pagpa who are known NKT teachers, and the Deputy Spiritual Director of NKT-IKBU to be bad students), then perhaps Geshe Kelsang can direct for the Open Letter to be removed and an apology/disclaimer to be published.
Can he? Since I'm not omniscient I cannot know whether or not he can. But since you claim to know that he can, please prove it.
This has not happened. I suspect it will never happen
It's possible, but this still proves nothing
but why don't you try and ask the NKT website Admin for good measure.
Why should I? It's you, not me disturbed by their slander. Wherefrom did you get this habit of asking others to perform your own tasks?
Personally I could not care less about the slandering statements coming from a bunch of greedy bureaucrats I'm not related to. But if you care, go ahead and ask them whatever you want, instead of asking others to do your job.
However, your request that I ask them this or that is not sincere. It is only your acrobatics to evade your duty to provide proof for your slander against Geshe Kelsang Gyatso.
You lack sincerity; this is your root problem. You and maybe some fake, envious lama behind you.
Strange that you feel it is shameful for me to infer that Geshe Kelsang is behind this repugnant affair
To “infer”? This is a joke. You are mistaking unproved assumption for inference, which is valid cognition. Try reading Geshe Kelsang Gyatso's “Understanding the Mind”.
Anyway, it is not shameful for you to infer, or even to presume whatever. What is shameful is to make slandering statements without proof, and indecently to evade offering such proof.
but its ok for various Kelsangs, office bearers of NKT and official NKT sites to viciously attack Trijang Rinpoche and Gonsar Rinpoche without cause.
Of course the various Kelsangs's attitude is as shameful as yours, because both you and them are slandering holy lamas while lacking any proof. The difference is that they are not part of the current discussion, whereas you are.
The funny thing here is that you lack the decency both to provide proof to support your own slandering and to ask directly the Kelsangs for a proof to support their own statements, rather asking me to do your job!
Why the double standard
No double standard from my side. The difference is that I'm talking to you, not to them; therefore I ask you, not them, to provide proof in support of your own slander.
Meanwhile, the blatant double standard from your side is that while you fail to provide proof for your own slander, you want the Kelsangs to provide proof for their slander, and what is worse, you lack the guts to ask such proof directly to them, but rather want me to do your job! Talk about acrobatics! I call this cowardice.
unless you're a student of Geshe Kelsang and you act when someone attacks *your* teacher and its semi-ok when its not *your* teacher who is being wrongly indicted.
Even being a student of Geshe Kelsang Gyatso I would not support a slander coming from his side, and even not being a student of Geshe Kelsang Gyatso I will denounce anyone slandering him as you do.
Besides, who told you that Trijang Choktrul and Gonsar Rinpoches are not my teachers? The difference between you and me is that if I wanted proof from the
By the way, we are not exactly in your living room having a quiet tête-à-tête over tea, are we? This a public forum and so all conversations are public.
