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Re: CTA creates violence again
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2014, 04:20:23 PM »
Violence is never the solutions for any problem. How many Dorje Shudgen (DS) pratitioners can CTA kill or harm to stop DS practice? The more the CTA do this, the stronger the DS supporters going to be and CTA is slowly loosing their support in TIbet too. Who would want an authority that use violence to resolve problems? I hope CTA can stop harming the old and defenceless people. Be kind to others and be kind to yourself.


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« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2014, 01:50:53 AM »
Violence is never the solutions for any problem. How many Dorje Shudgen (DS) pratitioners can CTA kill or harm to stop DS practice? The more the CTA do this, the stronger the DS supporters going to be and CTA is slowly loosing their support in TIbet too. Who would want an authority that use violence to resolve problems? I hope CTA can stop harming the old and defenceless people. Be kind to others and be kind to yourself.

And indeed I would like to add this:
All the heads of states, all other VIP government representatives, all movie stars and other celebrities that have supported the Dalai Lama, even simply by posing with him for a picture around a cup of tea, all of them will now think twice about doing so!

Some may even regret having a picture of them together with the Dalai Lama and are getting prepared to say "but I did not know"!
Well... it's all over the internet, how could you not know?

The ban installed by the Dalai Lama and the repression that the CTA has supported only find equivalents in a dictatorship regime.
The clearer this become to all the "outsiders", the less likely will they regard the "Dorje Shugden affair" as an internal affair.
When monks get attacked, when a whole population is ostracized and denigrated, it is no more something that they would disregard, and their support to the Dalai Lama will be less and less.

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« Reply #62 on: January 22, 2014, 10:40:45 AM »
We think of Buddhism as a peaceful religion. But in some parts of Asia, Buddhists are engaged in violent conflicts targeting their own country men. "Militant Buddhism" may sound like an oxymoron, but for Shugdenpas who have lost homes, dignity and loved ones, there is no contradiction.  The whole world has to know about this.

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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2014, 05:41:20 PM »
Well it has been more than 3 weeks that this innocent old monk was beaten up. I heard from the grapevine that the plot was to kill him if not for the dogs barking! At this point of writting, I checked on Dorje Shugden Facebook page that 8,979 people have either posted comments, shared or acknowledged the post by clicking 'Like'. That is almost NINE THOUSAND PEOPLE who know about this and condemns the unjust attack. Let alone the thousands of monks and lay people. The whole world is watching. I wonder if CTA will lay low for a few months before they repeat their dictatorial attack on more innocent parties??

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« Reply #64 on: January 25, 2014, 08:39:27 PM »
Indeed, many people have known about the cruel act of CTA to harm the Dorje Shugden practitioner. I am not sure if CTA will lay low for a while or not. However, we should keep spreading the news on this and how unfair and injustice the ban on Dorje Shugden. We need to continue to create more awareness of this ban, provide more information and facts to the world so that one day, the ban can be lifted so that the Dorje Shugden practitioners can enjoy their human rights and religion freedom. It will also help more people to get the blessings and protections from Dorje Shugden and make this world a better place!

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« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2014, 07:40:46 AM »
This statement by the Dalai Lama has been reported by the Economic Times.  My question here to the Dalai Lama: 

Do you really mean what you had said Your Holiness?  How about extending the same right to dialogues with Shugdenpas and not to incite violence in your community; request CTA not to create violence and not to distort the history of Dorje Shugden.  Shugdenpas have similar rights as the rest of the world please.

Dalai Lama Calls for Dialogues to Solve Problems of Violence

2 February 2014
GUWAHATI: Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama today called for dialogues with a sense of concern at all levels for solving the problems of violence in the world. "Just saying we want peace is not enough. But the causes of violence should be solved through dialogue.

Try to solve local problems keeping in mind solutions to global problems", the Dalai Lama said while delivering the First LBS Founders' Commemorative Lecture on 'A Human Approach to Peace and the Individual' here.

"If local problems are not solved keeping in mind solutions to global problems, the violence will erupt. The use of force will get unexpected consequences. Use of force today is outdated", he told a huge gathering of Tibetan refugees and others at the Nehru Stadium.

Referring to conflicts and wars across the world, the Tibetan spiritual leader said, "the motivation for wars may be good but when the method is not good they have unexpected consequences. That is why we must educate people on non-violence at all level".

"Non-violence method, however, cannot have one sided victory and one sided defeat. Then confrontation will come leading to violence", he pointed out.


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/29769731.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst.

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« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2014, 10:53:35 AM »
HH Dalai Lama is teaching for peace and non-violence. However some of his followers especially the CTA are not following the core Buddhism values that HH Dalai Lama is teaching. They only take HH Dalai Lama’s instruction literally on not practicing Dorje Shugden and CTA use all ways to stop others people for practicing Dorje Shugden, including violence. Cannot believe that a government, especially a so called “Buddhist government” that should promote loving and compassion are causing harm to some of its people!  What a shame!

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« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2014, 11:06:11 AM »
This statement by the Dalai Lama has been reported by the Economic Times.  My question here to the Dalai Lama: 

Do you really mean what you had said Your Holiness?  How about extending the same right to dialogues with Shugdenpas and not to incite violence in your community; request CTA not to create violence and not to distort the history of Dorje Shugden.  Shugdenpas have similar rights as the rest of the world please.

Dalai Lama Calls for Dialogues to Solve Problems of Violence

2 February 2014
GUWAHATI: Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama today called for dialogues with a sense of concern at all levels for solving the problems of violence in the world. "Just saying we want peace is not enough. But the causes of violence should be solved through dialogue.

Try to solve local problems keeping in mind solutions to global problems", the Dalai Lama said while delivering the First LBS Founders' Commemorative Lecture on 'A Human Approach to Peace and the Individual' here.

"If local problems are not solved keeping in mind solutions to global problems, the violence will erupt. The use of force will get unexpected consequences. Use of force today is outdated", he told a huge gathering of Tibetan refugees and others at the Nehru Stadium.

Referring to conflicts and wars across the world, the Tibetan spiritual leader said, "the motivation for wars may be good but when the method is not good they have unexpected consequences. That is why we must educate people on non-violence at all level".

"Non-violence method, however, cannot have one sided victory and one sided defeat. Then confrontation will come leading to violence", he pointed out.


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/29769731.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst.


Good question Icy!

"Non-violence method, however, cannot have one sided victory and one sided defeat. Then confrontation will come leading to violence", he pointed out.

I wished Tibetans would also pay attention to what His Holiness is advising here... and not be selective and choose to only apply what they like. If they did, then they would not harm Shugden practitioners and create a bad reputation for their Spiritual Leader, putting His Holiness words to shame and dragging Buddhism down to the mud by their violent acts.

If only they would truly practice every single advice given by His Holiness than there would be no violence, no discrimination, no harming and causing difficulties for Shugden practitioners. Even Shugden children are being affected because they are not allowed to go to public schools and mixed with non-Shugden kids. If this is not discrimination and an breach of religious freedom, then what would you call this in the 21st century? 

We beg His Holiness to at least advice the fanaticals pro-Dalai Lama and CTAs to not harm others, even if they are of a different faith and allow public welfare to shared by all Tibetans with no discrimination! Harmony instead of Hatred should be cultivated, not violence, just like His Holiness speech!

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« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2014, 10:39:28 AM »
Dalai Lama urges Indians to adopt Mahatma Gandhi's concept of non-violence.  CTA you should heed this advice by the Dalai Lama. 

Dharamsala, Jan.31 (ANI): Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, has called on Indians to implement the principles of non-violence espoused by Mahatma Gandhi, Father of the Nation.
The Dalai Lama left Dharamsala on Thursday for his week-long visit to northeast India, where he will participate in an inter-faith conclave in northeast Assam.

The Dalai Lama said: "I always feel everyone who have admiration for Mahatma Gandhiji, the proper way to remember him is we must implement his 'Ahimsa' (non-violence) concept and also I think every Indian should feel the ahimsa is not only Mahatma Gandhi's creation but over, I think, at least two-three thousand years that's India's tradition."

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Re: CTA creates violence again
« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2014, 05:19:10 AM »
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HH Dalai Lama is teaching for peace and non-violence

Rather, the evil dalai is just using words such as ”peace” and ”non-violence” as a convenient cover for his actual teaching, which is religious intolerance, witch hunting, social segregation, self-immolating, racist murdering, defaming and deriding one's own guru, and so forth.

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If only they would truly practice every single advice given by His Holiness than there would be no violence, no discrimination, no harming and causing difficulties for Shugden practitioners.

Rather the opposite, since many Tibetans and Westerners faithfully and truly practice every single advice of the evil entity (not their words, but their meaning), there is violence, discrimination, harming and causing difficulties for Shugden practitioners -- plus self-immolations, bloody racist riots, and so forth.

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« Reply #70 on: February 23, 2017, 02:10:16 PM »
The CTA calls people who practice Dorje Shugden devil worshippers, but based on what the people from the CTA do on a day to day basis it is obvious that they are the demon worshippers. As far as I know people who practice Dorje Shugden are quite peaceful and i have not heard about any Shugden people creating violence.

The violence and cruelty that the CTA does frequently is just not Buddhist, the Buddha told us to love our enemies and to conquer them with kindness and compassion. Even if Dorje Shugden was really a spirit the CTA should try to use peaceful and not violent ways to spread the message.
Up until today the CTA has yet to show any show any solid proof that Dorje Shugden is a spirit, even though they don't have any concrete evidence they still say bad things about Dorje Shugden.
 
I really hope that the ban will come down soon without any further violence.

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« Reply #71 on: February 23, 2017, 03:57:41 PM »
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CTA creates violence again

It's always easier to blame others than ourselves.

Our teacher the Buddha and all the authentic gurus without an exception said that one is fully responsible for one's own suffering.

Therefore, this applies to Shugdenpas as well.

Some Shugenpas suffer because of their ignorant attachment to the evil dalie lame.

Wanting to save the evil dalie's dirty face, some Shugdenpas shift the blame to the “CTA”.

Therefore, such Shugdenpas became nothing but accomplices of the obnoxious criminal, the evil dalie, and thus cannot say that “CTA creates violence again”.

Rather, they should say, “We self-styled Shugdenpas who are actually accomplices of the evil dalie create violence again, and try to shift the blame to the CTA in order to fell less guilty for our own suffering. Therefore, we self-styled Shugdenpas go against the Buddha and the lineage gurus because we blame others rather than ourselves for ouw own suffering”.

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« Reply #72 on: February 23, 2017, 04:07:57 PM »
Same as above minus the typos:

Rather, they should say, “We self-styled Shugdenpas who are actually accomplices of the evil dalie create violence again, and try to shift the blame to the CTA in order to feel less guilty for our own suffering. Therefore, we self-styled Shugdenpas go against the Buddha and the lineage gurus because we blame others rather than ourselves for our own suffering”.