Author Topic: Are the Dalai Lama's reasons valid?  (Read 11640 times)


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Re: Are the Dalai Lama's reasons valid?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2015, 03:53:48 AM »
A person who disrespects their teachers, encourages persecution, and constantly lies and contradicts themself is not a Buddhist, not a valid teacher or representative of the 3 Holy Jewels, and should not be validated or trusted. By disrespecting his own teacher, Lhamo Dondrub has broken his connection to lineage blessings. Furthermore, he was wrongly chosen as the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama as is clearly explained in the Reting Lama issue, he has admitted publicly that he is not the incarnation of the Dalai Lama, and was about to be dethroned around the time the Chinese invaded. Though he has done some virtuous things in his life just as any sentient being does, he has no validity, and his silence and avoidance of debating the actual valid teachers shows this. Following him is due to infatuation with his personality, or the various pressures and real dangers of the social politics surrounding the controversy if one disagrees with him.

It is so sad really, because if he would have respected his lineage Gurus, and respected everyone's human religious rights, he would have been able to help people without all the disharmony, bad reputation and so forth.

Many people here bring up as a support for maintaining faith in him, that the late Trijang Dorjechang said to keep faith in Dorje Shugden and the Dalai Lama, but this was said before the Dalai Lama had engaged in his reckless actions, and we must also not fail to recognize the context of social politics in which such a thing was said. Rinpoche still lived in the Tibetan community and still had direct dialogue with the Dalai Lama so of course he would publicly say to keep faith. Imagine the Chaos if he would've said differently or told the truth about this Lhamo Dondrub. Also his meaning of 'keep faith' may have more specifically referred to faith in his potential to become a Buddha, or faith that he would lift the ban. We can still respect someone as a person, and respect the virtuous things they've done, yet lose respect for them as a valid Teacher, or lose respect for the honesty, accuracy, or validity of their word; lose respect for their harmful actions and so forth.

If he were to admit his lineage Gurus were right and he is wrong, lift the ban, tell his followers to respect Buddhas teachings and so respect and help everyone including Dorje Shugden practitioners. If he also shows great remorse for his many lies and encouragement of harmful actions, goes into prolonged solitary retreat on Vajrasattva, and comes out of retreat as a humble monk that has great admiration and respect for his Gurus and everyone in the international Dharma community, maybe, just maybe at that point would he become someone worthy of respect and who's words might be trustworthy.

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Re: Are the Dalai Lama's reasons valid?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2015, 10:26:50 AM »
What you have pointed out is so valid and should the Dalai Lama is to say that his Gurus are right and he made a mistake and lift the Ban on Dorje Shugden, what then will happen to his fame and reputation on the world stage?

At the same time will such an admission lead the Tibetans in exile to completely give up hope of returning to Tibet?

On deeper thoughts, this admission may also create empathy from the world stage and assist the Dalai Lama and Tibetans an opening for dialogue with China.

So much if, if, and more ifs.  My advice to the CTA is to use the controversy of Dorje Shugden to create something valuable and in this I am sure Dorje Shugden will be there all the way to success that is amicable.

Lift the Ban to benefit all sentient beings.