New Truth Revealed!!!

[Namdrol]

Another indisputable truth revealed! Read how Dorje Shugden assisted the Great 13th Dalai Lama and the proof is in the exiled Tibetan Government's OFFICIAL printing press itself!!!

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/dorje-shugden-assists-the-great-13th-dalai-lama/

[vajratruth]

His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama has time and time again cited two of the greatest Dalai Lamas before the present one, as examples of Dorje Shugden being a harmful spirit - the Great 5th Dalai Lama and the Great 13th Dalai Lama. We know for sure that the 5th Dalai Lama in fact ended up building Trode Kangsar for the Deity as a sign of utmost veneration and wrote a Praise for the deity (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/spiritual-lineage/the-time-of-the-great-fifth/)

His Holiness has also referred to the Great 13th Dalai Lama as being against the practice of Dorje Shugden. But again we know not only from the book by George Chryssides, "Exploring New Religions" p239 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=2460.0) that in fact the 13th Dalai Lama was a Shugden practitioner himself. This fact has never been disputed!

And now we see clear evidence from the Garland Of Jewels, that not only did the 13th Dalai Lama practice Dorje Shugden, he trusted Dorje Shugden with his life, his country, his people and his lineage to the point of following the Protector's advice to the letter. This raises a number of interesting questions for me, namely:

1. Why would the Dalai Lama claim that his predecessor was against the practice when clearly the Great 13th was not?

2. How come the 13th Dalai Lama decided to take Shugden's advice at such a time when Tibet was facing imminent danger instead of consulting Nechung? Where was Nechung and how come the official chief protector of Tibet was not even referred to?  In fact, there were stories that Neching gave the 13th Dalai Lama the wrong medication [see:

Did the Nechung Oracle Kill the 13th Dalai Lama?	Small | Large

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Could it be that Dorje Shugden has always been the Deity protecting the Tibetans all these years and that the 14th Dalai Lama is taking counsel instead from an unenlightened protector, Nechung, whom the Great 13th did not personally trust? Was the Great 13th wrong? And if he was, then wouldn't the 14th Dalai Lama, being of the same mind stream also be totally wrong?

3. How come Dorje Shugden was regarded as Deity in 1978 when the first publication of the Garland Of Jewels was made available, and again in 1984 as verified by the Private Office of the present Dalai Lama, and suddenly became an evil spirit a few years later? Why is it that the CTA takes the Tibetans themselves as fools asking them to believe that an enlightened Protector suddenly went "rogue" which goes against every religious logic? It means Buddhas can be wrong and mistaken and even Buddhas can take fall into the lower realms. Is that the CTA's claim? In fact the Dalai Lama criticized Zemey Rinpoche for the Yellow Book in 1973 and yet a mere 5 years later, seemed ok with the Garland Of Jewels. The timeline and sequence of events have proven that the CTA is merely making a scapegoat out of Dorje Shugden for their own failures.

There are a lot more issues that could be raised to debunk all the false reasons given by the CTA to ban the Protector practice but it would take a much longer space than this. What is surprising is that the CTA seems to have engaged in disseminating  false information to justify and illegal and unlawful ban. The unforgivable part is how the CTA has literally cheated the Tibetans of a Protector who has looked after them as he guarded the Buddhadharma from the beginning.

[Ensapa]

His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama has time and time again cited two of the greatest Dalai Lamas before the present one, as examples of Dorje Shugden being a harmful spirit - the Great 5th Dalai Lama and the Great 13th Dalai Lama. We know for sure that the 5th Dalai Lama in fact ended up building Trode Kangsar for the Deity as a sign of utmost veneration and wrote a Praise for the deity (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/spiritual-lineage/the-time-of-the-great-fifth/)

His Holiness has also referred to the Great 13th Dalai Lama as being against the practice of Dorje Shugden. But again we know not only from the book by George Chryssides, "Exploring New Religions" p239 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=2460.0) that in fact the 13th Dalai Lama was a Shugden practitioner himself. This fact has never been disputed!

And now we see clear evidence from the Garland Of Jewels, that not only did the 13th Dalai Lama practice Dorje Shugden, he trusted Dorje Shugden with his life, his country, his people and his lineage to the point of following the Protector's advice to the letter. This raises a number of interesting questions for me, namely:

1. Why would the Dalai Lama claim that his predecessor was against the practice when clearly the Great 13th was not?

2. How come the 13th Dalai Lama decided to take Shugden's advice at such a time when Tibet was facing imminent danger instead of consulting Nechung? Where was Nechung and how come the official chief protector of Tibet was not even referred to?  In fact, there were stories that Neching gave the 13th Dalai Lama the wrong medication [see: Did the Nechung Oracle Kill the 13th Dalai Lama?].
Could it be that Dorje Shugden has always been the Deity protecting the Tibetans all these years and that the 14th Dalai Lama is taking counsel instead from an unenlightened protector, Nechung, whom the Great 13th did not personally trust? Was the Great 13th wrong? And if he was, then wouldn't the 14th Dalai Lama, being of the same mind stream also be totally wrong?

3. How come Dorje Shugden was regarded as Deity in 1978 when the first publication of the Garland Of Jewels was made available, and again in 1984 as verified by the Private Office of the present Dalai Lama, and suddenly became an evil spirit a few years later? Why is it that the CTA takes the Tibetans themselves as fools asking them to believe that an enlightened Protector suddenly went "rogue" which goes against every religious logic? It means Buddhas can be wrong and mistaken and even Buddhas can take fall into the lower realms. Is that the CTA's claim? In fact the Dalai Lama criticized Zemey Rinpoche for the Yellow Book in 1973 and yet a mere 5 years later, seemed ok with the Garland Of Jewels. The timeline and sequence of events have proven that the CTA is merely making a scapegoat out of Dorje Shugden for their own failures.

There are a lot more issues that could be raised to debunk all the false reasons given by the CTA to ban the Protector practice but it would take a much longer space than this. What is surprising is that the CTA seems to have engaged in disseminating  false information to justify and illegal and unlawful ban. The unforgivable part is how the CTA has literally cheated the Tibetans of a Protector who has looked after them as he guarded the Buddhadharma from the beginning.

There are many things that are not consistent with the Dalai Lama and the Dorje Shugden issue and if you're sharp enough, you'll spot it. For example, when HHDL quotes something against Dorje Shugden, it is usually in a way where there is no source provided and he does not seem to be very firm about it and he sounds like he is drawing conclusions about the whole issue as opposed to a solid conclusion backed with logic, historical facts and reason. And thus, the rest of the Dorje Shugden detractors follow the same example which is why there are none of them here in this forum: coz they know they're blowing hot air.

[kris]

Even the current 14th Dalai Lama was helped by Dorje Shugden in 1959 when He fled from Tibet to India. Through the oracle, Dorje Shugden took trance and gave advice to HH Dalai Lama on the route to escape, and He carried Dorje Shugden thangka together with Him throughout the whole journey.

There are just so many lives where Dorje Shugden has helped HH Dalai Lama...

[Tenzin Malgyur]

Wow! This is most exciting. More true facts coming out and pointing more to the obvious that Dorje Shugden is NOT a spirit as claimed. It is so sad the Tibetans in exiled are being led by a group of uneducated leaders who can't work out a plan to get independence for their country. It looks like they are going downhill fighting this battle against the super powerful China. And all they could do is put the blame on Dorje Shugden. What is more sad is the people who are listening and following this accusation blindly and acting foolishly. May this leaflet reach more people to educate them and to guide them to the correct path to get their country back. May they also realize that Dorje Shugden is assisting them all this time.

[dondrup]

The great 13th Dalai Lama’s execution of the repairs to the two stupas as advised by Dorje Shugden shows the level of Holiness’ faith and reliance on Dorje Shugden.  His Holiness the 13th Dalai Lama and His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama are of the same mental continuum.  It does not make sense for the 14th Dalai Lama to admit that he was mistaken about Dorje Shugden when his previous incarnation the great 13th Dalai Lama had complete reliance on Dorje Shugden!

Dorje Shugden had saved Tibet from the Chinese invasion during the sovereign of the 13th Dalai Lama.  And in this lifetime, Dorje Shugden had also helped the 14th Dalai Lama escaped from Tibet without being caught by the Chinese armies.  Dorje Shugden had been very kind to both the Dalai Lamas.  Dorje Shugden is the protector of Lama Tsongkhapa Lineage and he had protected both the Dalai Lamas’ lives because they are very important lineage holders and spiritual heads of all Tibet.

By printing this text: The Garland of Jewels: Chronicle of the Successive Emanations of Lord Lokëshvara, the then government TGIE had fully approved and endorsed the text's content. If TGIE had banned Dorje Shugden, then this text should be retracted but it had not been done so! So that means TGIE (or CTA) had actually endorsed and accepted Dorje Shugden!

[Big Uncle]

This article reminds me of something I have read before about the Great 13th Dalai Lama. It is said that he issued an edict to stop Pabongka Rinpoche from spreading Dorje Shugden and was duly heeded till the Dalai Lama's passing. Then Pabongka Rinpoche resumed spreading Dorje Shugden. Now, what I read according to some scholars, there is not actually written proof of this ever happening.

If the scholar is accurate in his analysis of the lack of evidence, it means that the 13th Dalai Lama has never actually discouraged the practice . If that's the case, there were no Dalai Lamas prior to the current Dalai Lama that has ever been against Dorje Shugden's practice. The Great Fifth Dalai Lama was also another incarnation of the Dalai Lama that was mistakenly thought to be against Dorje Shugden. However, why would he be against Dorje Shugden and compose a praise, make statues of Dorje Shugden and install him as the Dharma Protector for certain monasteries. 

[vajratruth]

There has never been any sound or logical reasons offered by the Dalai Lama for the Dorje Shugden ban. Instead the ban has heavily relied on claims that two previous highly notable Dalai Lamas i.e. the Fifth and Thirteenth were both opposed to the Protector practice and we have seen how these claim have been proven wrong by documentary facts. On the contrary, the facts reveal that both the Fifth and Thirteenth Dalai Lamas were practitioners themselves.

The question is why would the present Dalai Lama offer up these two great Dalai Lamas as witness for the prosecution knowing that the facts would reveal them to be more suitable witnesses for the defense of Dorje Shugden as a highly revered and enlightened Protector? It comes across strange that an "enemy" of Dorje Shugden would so blatantly lead people on a trail that would eventually show them the truth about the enlightened nature of Dorje Shugden.

That fact remains, that the 14th Dalai Lama stands alone in his criticism of the emanation of Manjushri, but who knows? Perhaps like his previous incarnations as the Great Fifth and Great Thirteenth, His Holiness might also do an about-turn on his view of the practice. One thing is for sure, Dorje Shugden has remained silently secure while his critics flip-flop over the centuries, only to return to what this website has maintained all along. That Dorje Shugden is the Uncommon Protector sworn to protect Tsongkhapa's teachings and the very deity we need to propitiate now.

[Ensapa]

There has never been any sound or logical reasons offered by the Dalai Lama for the Dorje Shugden ban. Instead the ban has heavily relied on claims that two previous highly notable Dalai Lamas i.e. the Fifth and Thirteenth were both opposed to the Protector practice and we have seen how these claim have been proven wrong by documentary facts. On the contrary, the facts reveal that both the Fifth and Thirteenth Dalai Lamas were practitioners themselves.

The question is why would the present Dalai Lama offer up these two great Dalai Lamas as witness for the prosecution knowing that the facts would reveal them to be more suitable witnesses for the defense of Dorje Shugden as a highly revered and enlightened Protector? It comes across strange that an "enemy" of Dorje Shugden would so blatantly lead people on a trail that would eventually show them the truth about the enlightened nature of Dorje Shugden.

That fact remains, that the 14th Dalai Lama stands alone in his criticism of the emanation of Manjushri, but who knows? Perhaps like his previous incarnations as the Great Fifth and Great Thirteenth, His Holiness might also do an about-turn on his view of the practice. One thing is for sure, Dorje Shugden has remained silently secure while his critics flip-flop over the centuries, only to return to what this website has maintained all along. That Dorje Shugden is the Uncommon Protector sworn to protect Tsongkhapa's teachings and the very deity we need to propitiate now.

That is true. Dorje Shugden has remained as stable as ever over the centuries while his detractors tend to fluster or be unsuccessful in their Dharma pursuits and works. There has been stories of how certain Lamas dislike Dorje Shugden, only to have their lineages die out, not because of Dorje Shugden going against them but because of the narrowmindedness of such lamas of not seeing the better side of Dorje Shugden. Case in point is the 98th Ganden Tripa's disciple who ignored Gen Nyima's divination results on how to lift the black magic curse placed on the 98th Ganden Tripa by jealous Bonpos: either to rely on Dorje Shugden or to find and remove the picture of the 98th Ganden Tripa pinned down by phurbas. Because he didint like Dorje Shugden, he kept quiet about the results, and as a result, his Guru died, and with that, his Dharma works went down as well.

[DharmaSpace]

I feel the Dalai Lama had been preparing to issue the ban for quite some time, but before he issued the ban he was sowing the seeds for the people to discover the real 'Truth' behind the ban. The CTA really cannot figure things can they, despite there are so much contradicting and conflicting evidence, why praise a protector that the Dalai Lama will ban eventually.

And the 'Yellow Book' that Zemey Rinpoche was published in 1975, and the Dalai Lama hinted at Dorje Shugden being an unenlightened deity in 1976-77, and this “THE GARLAND OF JEWELS: Chronicles of the Successive Emanations of Lord Lokeshvara was published first in 1978 and later 1984. So why publish deeds of Dorje Shugden coming to the rescue again and again of the Dalai Lama, when the Dalai is planning to 'move' against Dorje Shugden.

People who are not realised and practiced if they are to mix Theravada with Kagyu, or Chinese BUddhism with Nyingma or Gelug with Korean Buddhism et etc it is just plain mix mash, there are 84,000 ways to be enlightened, every path has its own methods in its entirety and completeness, mixing and mashing it up is just a recipe for disaster.

[Ensapa]

I feel the Dalai Lama had been preparing to issue the ban for quite some time, but before he issued the ban he was sowing the seeds for the people to discover the real 'Truth' behind the ban. The CTA really cannot figure things can they, despite there are so much contradicting and conflicting evidence, why praise a protector that the Dalai Lama will ban eventually.

And the 'Yellow Book' that Zemey Rinpoche was published in 1975, and the Dalai Lama hinted at Dorje Shugden being an unenlightened deity in 1976-77, and this “THE GARLAND OF JEWELS: Chronicles of the Successive Emanations of Lord Lokeshvara was published first in 1978 and later 1984. So why publish deeds of Dorje Shugden coming to the rescue again and again of the Dalai Lama, when the Dalai is planning to 'move' against Dorje Shugden.

People who are not realised and practiced if they are to mix Theravada with Kagyu, or Chinese BUddhism with Nyingma or Gelug with Korean Buddhism et etc it is just plain mix mash, there are 84,000 ways to be enlightened, every path has its own methods in its entirety and completeness, mixing and mashing it up is just a recipe for disaster.

Unfortunately, many of his followers still fail to see the truth behind the Dorje Shugden issue and went to as far as writing off every high lama that supported Dorje Shugden as sectarian. And the sad part is that they declare themselves to be Gelug without any knowledge of what is going on. And what makes things worse is the fact that these people are discouraged to find out about the truth about Dorje Shugden by saying that even mentioning Dorje Shugden can bring bad luck and effectively promote more and more ignorance. Western scholars who are biased against Dorje Shugden keep writing lies and distorted facts to downgrade Dorje Shugden further. But in the end, I am sure the truth will prevail.

[yontenjamyang]

What if our Gurus asked us to propitiate a deity and after many years he suddenly announce "upon deeper inspection" I confirm that the deity that I recommended to you is in fact a world being ie a spirit. Sorry. Lets stop. If that really happens then, i personally will think the Guru is testing me. He will never be wrong is the first place.
Then I found out that my Guru's previous incarnation also practiced the same deity that he now says is a spirit. Well, that confirms my suspicion; that he is testing us.

This sums up the topic....in my opinion. What a drama!

[Ensapa]

What if our Gurus asked us to propitiate a deity and after many years he suddenly announce "upon deeper inspection" I confirm that the deity that I recommended to you is in fact a world being ie a spirit. Sorry. Lets stop. If that really happens then, i personally will think the Guru is testing me. He will never be wrong is the first place.
Then I found out that my Guru's previous incarnation also practiced the same deity that he now says is a spirit. Well, that confirms my suspicion; that he is testing us.

This sums up the topic....in my opinion. What a drama!

But unfortunately, many of the Dalai Lama's students lack the knowledge, experience and stability to actually see what is really going on, that it cannot be that the Dalai Lama has been practicing Dorje Shugden for so many years and suddenly Dorje Shugden is bad because in any way logically that does not make sense in any way. But perhaps, due to lack of stability and knowledge about Tibetan Buddhism, these people think that all of the Dalai Lama's words should be followed literally, and we can also see that the ban has unearthed a lot of people who are unstable and flippant in the Dharma practice. So maybe, perhaps, HHDL wanted to separate the stable from the unstable?

[hope rainbow]

What if our Gurus asked us to propitiate a deity and after many years he suddenly announce "upon deeper inspection" I confirm that the deity that I recommended to you is in fact a world being ie a spirit. Sorry. Lets stop. If that really happens then, i personally will think the Guru is testing me. He will never be wrong is the first place.
Then I found out that my Guru's previous incarnation also practiced the same deity that he now says is a spirit. Well, that confirms my suspicion; that he is testing us.

This sums up the topic....in my opinion. What a drama!

But unfortunately, many of the Dalai Lama's students lack the knowledge, experience and stability to actually see what is really going on, that it cannot be that the Dalai Lama has been practicing Dorje Shugden for so many years and suddenly Dorje Shugden is bad because in any way logically that does not make sense in any way. But perhaps, due to lack of stability and knowledge about Tibetan Buddhism, these people think that all of the Dalai Lama's words should be followed literally, and we can also see that the ban has unearthed a lot of people who are unstable and flippant in the Dharma practice. So maybe, perhaps, HHDL wanted to separate the stable from the unstable?

Separate the stable from the unstable?
I never thought of that actually... Another facet of the skillful means of His Holiness.
The stable will practice with intelligence and devotion, and the unstable will practice with devotion... So both do collect merits?

After all, the students that blindly gave up on the practice of Dorje Shugden fulfilled 4 things that should bring about merits;
(A) they follow an instruction from their Guru, without analsyis, without intelligence, without looking broader, but they still follow.
(B) they participate to make Dorje Shugden closer to the many that are "against" the Dalai Lama.
(C) they make Dorje Shugden parctitioners stronger both inside and outside the Tibetan community, because it forces these practitionners to be more educated about their practice, to be more certain about it, to be more faithful.
(D) they particpate to make Dorje Shugden famous in many places.

So do they collect merits on the above ground, or do they loose?
I am not sure of the reply, but I would be inclined to think that they do collect some merit, as a result of the highly skillful means of The Dalai Lama, by the power of his instructions.
Though, I would add that those that went overboard and did more than what was asked may cetainly not collect merits. I mean the Dalai lama did not ask for discrimation, nor did He ask to close access to hospitals for DS parctitioners, He did not even ban them from attending some of his talks... These are actions done by zealous people assuming too much, not clarifying anything.

[Ensapa]

Separate the stable from the unstable?
I never thought of that actually... Another facet of the skillful means of His Holiness.
The stable will practice with intelligence and devotion, and the unstable will practice with devotion... So both do collect merits?

After all, the students that blindly gave up on the practice of Dorje Shugden fulfilled 4 things that should bring about merits;
(A) they follow an instruction from their Guru, without analsyis, without intelligence, without looking broader, but they still follow.
(B) they participate to make Dorje Shugden closer to the many that are "against" the Dalai Lama.
(C) they make Dorje Shugden parctitioners stronger both inside and outside the Tibetan community, because it forces these practitionners to be more educated about their practice, to be more certain about it, to be more faithful.
(D) they particpate to make Dorje Shugden famous in many places.

So do they collect merits on the above ground, or do they loose?
I am not sure of the reply, but I would be inclined to think that they do collect some merit, as a result of the highly skillful means of The Dalai Lama, by the power of his instructions.
Though, I would add that those that went overboard and did more than what was asked may cetainly not collect merits. I mean the Dalai lama did not ask for discrimation, nor did He ask to close access to hospitals for DS parctitioners, He did not even ban them from attending some of his talks... These are actions done by zealous people assuming too much, not clarifying anything.

Lets take for example, Robert thurman. he even begged for Dorje Shugden's sogtae from Domo Geshe Rinpoche who did not grant him (well, he saw it coming) and now he defected to the Dalai Lama's camp and wrote a lot of nonsense about Dorje Shugden and passing them as facts. He was even a monk before but for a year but flipped back to be a layperson. you can read the whole story here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-two-faces-of-robert-thurman/

Although in some way they are 'promoting' Dorje Shugden, at the same time they do also mislead many people about Dorje Shugden and that alone would generate a lot of negative karma, perhaps neutralized by them following the Dalai Lama's instructions. Dont forget the politicking and attacks against other Dorje Shugden Lamas that they also do.