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vajratruth

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Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« on: January 13, 2014, 07:42:13 AM »
Recently the Dalai Lama's hypocrisy has been noticed by international press and because the Dalai Lama is seen as the embodiment of Buddhist values this cannot be good for the spread of the Dharma. Most people of the world are not aware of how the Dalai Lama and his gang have denied Tibetans their most basic rights to practice their religion and now perhaps the international community is waking up to the spiritual leader and the CTA's two-facedness. Its a pity that the Tibetans in general and those who stood in the middle did not do anything to curb the Dalai Lama's persecutions. Now the casualty is all that the world assumes the Dalai Lama represents which is Tibetan Buddhism as a whole.

Excerpt from Jakarta Globe:

The peaceful image of Buddhism in the West largely owes to the popularity of the Dalai Lama who has preached tolerance and peace throughout his exile from Tibet. In the propaganda war against the Chinese Communist Party, there is no doubt the Tibetan leader fares much better. And yet for all his alleged open-mindedness, it is also a fact that the Dalai Lama has declared the sect of Dorje Shugden illegal within Tibetan Buddhism. He has also called for the sect’s suppression, something that is rarely reported in the press

Full article here:http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/shugdens-ban-in-the-press/

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 08:59:14 AM »
Yes. Once again the Dalai Lama has painted Tibetan Buddhism in bad light and now it is reported in Indonesia and in comparison positive reports to Pope Francis. For all the hard work that the Dalai Lama has done over the past 55 years (versus the less than 1 year of the Pope's tenure so far), he has already been compared negatively.
For whatever reasons the Dalai Lama has put forward for the ban and blaming the Protector for Tibet's failure, no other bigger reason can be attributed to Tibet's failure than the ban itself. For all the hard work that the Dalai Lama has put in toward Tibet's cause, the ban by its' weight of being dictatorial, undemocratic, illogical, uncompassionate and out right ridiculous does not fare well in the minds of the world. It makes the Dalai Lama and by extension Tibetans look like fools, never mind trying to get Tibet's independence or autonomy.

Lift the ban and the world's opinion may change!

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 10:48:35 PM »
Thus, unfortunately the Dalai Lama's reputation and peace image is fast waning in the West and definitely Tibetan Buddhism stands to lose its lustrous.  More journalists and medias are itching and hungry to have more controversy news on their page.  They certainly find the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden controversy delicious and most exciting to deliver to the public.  Many independent medias and free lance writers who are not within any boundary of control are capable of splashing out the news.  To arrest this issue, CTA needs to lift the ban and restore peace.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 03:18:24 PM »
Just as I had posted about the international media not seeing the contradiction then i read this thread about the article in the Jakarta Globe! I must say that i have mixed feelings about this media attention. While it is good that the Dorje Shugden ban is getting media coverage, this news is negative for HH the Dalai Lama and therefore it will impact Buddhism in general. Several people have told me that they are not even interested to know more about Tibetan Buddhism because of the controversy and that it is 'too complicated'. While the Gelukpa tradition is the fastest growing in the west, this negative news may slow down the growth. However, while it seems like a lose-lose situation, i guess in time, once the ban is lifted, people will hopefully forget about the controversy over time. I guess only time will tell.
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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 11:30:36 PM »
There is no cover for truth forever. Sooner or later the whole world will know as the ban of Dorje Shudgen is really jeopardize the Tibetan community and practitioners. People will come to know the spiritual apartheid already to the extend that Shudgen practitioners being shunned by their own community and living in fears as being physically harmed. As the Dalai Lama preaches peace, harmony and tolerance to the world, however the ban totally contradicted to it. How to justify?

It is good that the ban of Dorje Shudgen getting more media coverage, is the time to let the truth being revealed.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 12:28:01 AM »
Is the Dalai Lama jeopardizing the future of Tibetan Buddhism?

When HH Dalai Lama won the Nobel Peace prize, the image of Buddhism in general and Tibetan Buddhism in particular, soared to great heights. In fact with his indefatigable teaching and spread of Dharma, Buddhism  became a household word.

But now, the way in which the Dalai Lama and the CTA have gone about lambasting Shugden, imposing a ban on the practice of Shugden and persecuting Shugden practitioners, the effects are now beginning to be seen. From someone who teaches that Peace and Harmony are equated with Buddhism, all this anti-Shugden 'campaign' and atrocities is clearly taking a toll on the image of Tibetan Buddhism.

People are beginning to turn away from Tibetan Buddhism. This article from The Jakarta  Globe shows signs of this happening already. Something must be done to get the ban lifted before the whole future of Tibetan Buddhism becomes a shattered dream.
 

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 06:03:49 PM »
I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF SUCH REPORTS. ESPECIALLY MORE AND A FULL REPORT ON THE INJUSTICE BAN OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOR TIBETANS!

And you know what reporters... this book http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/ act as the perfect evidence to the world of the religious discrimination, disharmony, division in the Tibetan community in exile! Where have you ever heard someone publishing a book against another person's faith without getting in to trouble? Salman Rushdie got into big trouble for publishing The Satanic Verses which caused the heated and frequently violent reaction of some Muslims. Many Muslims accused Rushdie of blasphemy or unbelief and in 1989 Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran issued a fatw? ordering Muslims to kill Rushdie. Numerous killings, attempted killings, and bombings resulted from Muslim anger over the novel.

The Iranian government backed the fatw? against Rushdie until 1998, when the succeeding government of Iranian President Mohammad Khatami said it no longer supported the killing of Rushdie.
The issue was said to have divided "Muslim from Westerners along the fault line of culture," and to have pitted a core Western value of freedom of expression—that no one "should be killed, or face a serious threat of being killed, for what they say or write"—against the view of many Muslims—that no one should be free to "insult and malign Muslims" by disparaging the "honour of the Prophet" Muhammad. English writer Hanif Kureishi called the fatw? "one of the most significant events in postwar literary history."

So is this book Tibetan Buddhist's satanic verses?  Or is HHDL acting like  Ayatollah Khomeini?
And on top of that, it's to be freely distributed and the Dalai Lama officially launched it? Madness... well this is Tibetan politics. Why do you think they lost their country. More like sadness.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2014, 09:11:11 AM »
This is a good sign! Johannes Nugroho has the discerning eyes to recognise HH Dalai Lama's opened intolerance and suppression on the Dorje Shugden sect.

Despite worldwide demonstrations many years ago by the western and Tibetan Shugdenpas against the ban, the World did not seem to realize the extent of the harm and damage that the ban had caused to many.

Johannes Nugroho and the Jakarta Globe provided us an avenue to inform and highlight to the World about HH Dalai Lama's hypocrisy and the ban.  The world deserves the pure Buddhadharma and the truths not the lies from HH Dalai Lama, CTA and their croonies!

Come on all shugdenpas, lets use the gateway provided above to bring down the ban. It is a golden opportunity not to be wasted.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2014, 08:36:07 AM »
I am sorry to put it this way, whatever publicity of the Dalai Lama's stance against Dorje Shugden is good. The world needs to be made known of the plight of Dorje Shugden practitioners. Not many people are aware yet despite good news coverage and publicity. The Dalai Lama's reputation is very strong and people need to be aware so pressure is built up on especially CTA. If coverage of Dorje Shugden ban and also the special qualities and authenticity of Dorje Shugden as an enlightened Dharma Protector is generated, we can eventually force the ban to be abolished.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 06:35:29 PM »
This is absolutely correct. On the other side, the Dalai Lama is promoting peace, promoting love, promoting respect to the different. But, when come to free religion practice, he is not that free as he talked. No wonder the Chinese is not respecting the Tibetan. To them the Tibetan talk and action are always different. Especially the look at how the refugee bullied another same status of refugees.  Shame on CTA

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 07:08:33 PM »
I have always wondered why the larger tabloids never picked up this discrimination of religious inequality that is imposed by the Dalai Lama and CTA, I know there was once on France 24, but something as large as this, shouldn't it catch the attention of major tabloids and become a story that they follow the progress?

Maybe there's something more to it... probably there is a superior person behind the scenes that controls the media content?

We as DS practitioners must really go aggressive from this year on wards. The CTA are now more worried about this issue and is going all out to silence DS practitioners! We must get international support first before it's too late.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2014, 12:24:22 AM »
OMG! Now it is coming from Indonesia, a country where less than 1% of their population is Buddhist. Even this small population is aware of the unjust ban. I heard from the grapevine that groups in Singapore, Taiwan and HK are also very strong in their  support against this unjust ban. But coming from a writer who is from a Muslim country, it is time CTA wakes up and smell the coffee. An administration who is 100% Buddhist putting down their own religion.

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Re: Dalai Lama paints Tibetan Buddhism in bad light
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 01:55:48 AM »
All the heads of states, all other VIP government representatives, all movie stars and other celebrities that have supported the Dalai Lama, even simply by posing with him for a picture around a cup of tea, all of them will now think twice about doing so!

Some may even regret having a picture of them together with the Dalai Lama and are getting prepared to say "but I did not know"!
Well... it's all over the internet, how could you not know?

The ban installed by the Dalai Lama and the repression that the CTA has supported only find equivalents in a dictatorship regime.
The clearer this become to all the "outsiders", the less likely will they regard the "Dorje Shugden affair" as an internal affair.

When monks get attacked, when a whole population is ostracized and denigrated, it is no more something that they would disregard, and their support to the Dalai Lama will be less and less.