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		<title>By: Lophun</title>
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		<description>I do not understand how a Lama like Lama Rinpoche can write things like this, when &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;it is well-known that he himself gave Dorje Shugden initiations and told the initiates that they were incurring a lifelong obligation to continue the practice&lt;/font&gt;, and that breaking such an obligation would incur grave negative karma. It is very confusing and frankly, depressing.

Lama Zopa has written some excellent books, such as his work on the Medicine Buddha. However, his logic in this foreword is gravely flawed and perhaps even essentially anti-Buddhist. For instance, he says, “If the Precious Victorious One, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, is not the actual Buddha and Arya Avalokiteshvara, then you can say that in this world there is no emanation of Buddha benefiting sentient beings. In this way bodhicitta and the entire teachings of the Buddha become false.”

Say what??? I do not know whether the Dalai Lama is or is not an emanation of Avalokiteshvara, though, based on his words and actions, I sincerely doubt it. (I mean, the man has repeatedly stated in countless interviews that he is not enlightened, and seems to relish scoffing at the notion that he might be). Regardless, &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;the fact that the Dalai Lama is or is not such an emanation has nothing whatsoever to do with whether there are other emanations of Buddha&lt;/font&gt; currently on earth benefitting sentient beings.

Logically, one does not rule out the possibility that other living Buddhas exist today, or other emanations of Avalokiteshvara, simply by denying that the Dalai Lama is such a one. If I deny that my wife is a panda bear, I am not denying that pandas exist. &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Indeed, to make a claim of exclusivity on the Dalai Lama’s behalf, as Lama Zopa has done, is really anti-Mahayanan in spirit, for it belittles and denigrates the efficacy of all other Buddhist schools and traditions.&lt;/font&gt; Someone seems to have imported the Roman Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility into Dharamsala, and now they are beginning to round up the infidels and burn them at the stake.

It is the height of irony that Lama Zopa urges practitioners to examine their beliefs openly and honestly, and then states as a matter of fact that the Dalai Lama is omniscient and one must adhere to what the ‘omniscient one’ says. &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Am I not permitted to question whether the Dalai Lama is truly omniscient, and to judge this claim by the evidence of the man’s words and actions?&lt;/font&gt; Am I not allowed to take him at his word when he says he is NOT omniscient? Am I not allowed to question his lack of success in defending the cause of Tibet, or his lack of compassion in his treatment of Shugden practitioners, or his bumbling manner in any number of interviews, or his willingness to be used as a CIA puppet or guest editor of a highly immoral fashion magazine?

Sadly, the recent actions of Lama Zopa and the Dalai Lama have completely soured me on Tibetan Buddhism. I have been forced to turn back to the Theravadan and Chinese teachings, because I will never again turn my will and intellect over to a guru who demands total obedience, even when he teaches one thing today and a completely different thing tomorrow. &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;With this version of Buddhism, it’s a heads-you-win, tails-I-lose situation for the sincere follower … any faults of the guru are really the fault of the practitioner, whose bad karma has caused those faults to manifest.&lt;/font&gt; And even when the guru manifests obvious error, he still is not to be questioned because the error again is in the eye of the practitioner and only through blind loyalty can he cleanse his karma to the point where sincere questioning is of any value. If this is the case, then there is no point in advising practitioners to question and judge the teachings, because their bad karma will not allow them to make reasonable judgments. Reason itself is banished; it has become soiled and fallen and no longer can be trusted. Blind obedience becomes the only permitted path … you must believe in the Dalai Lama because he is a priori infallible and any evidence to the contrary is not credible, because ONLY the Dalai Lama represents Buddha in today’s world and EVERYONE ELSE is deluded.

And so the question arises: &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;if I am required to have blind faith in the Dalai Lama in order to be “saved”, what separates this form of Buddhism from any other exclusivist, country-club members only, religion?&lt;/font&gt; What separates Buddhism from the monotheistic religions once reason has been outlawed? You can use the same “your bad karma prevents you from seeing things as they are” argument to justify any religion, any cult, any superstition, any belief whatsoever. It might take a slightly different form — “your ways are not God’s ways,” or “your reason was broken in the original fall from grace of sinful man,” but the essence is the same: don’t trust yourself, look to others, particularly those who are held up as masters, for the truth. In this way, &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Lama Zopa’s attempt to defend the Dalai Lama becomes an atomic weapon capable of destroying any and all religious belief, or empowering any and all zealots of every stripe&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.

I find all of this unworthy of the spirit of inquiry I believe Buddha Shakyamuni promoted, and the spirit of compassion that Avalokiteshvara represents. I hope that one day all the confusion that these modern-day avatars have sowed will be cleared up and those of us who relied upon them as examples and guides on the spiritual path will have our disappointments honestly and frankly acknowledged and rectified.

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Comment left by a Howard&lt;/strong&gt; from http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/recognized-by-dorje-shugden-but-speaks-against-dorje-shugden/comment-page-1/#comment-911810


Picture attached: HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche performs last rites for Venerable Lama Yeshe. Both these lamas were totally devoted to Dorje Shugden until the end of their lives. Decades later, Lama Zopa who has abandoned his guru Lama Yeshe&#039;s practice of Dorje Shugden, to befriend the Dalai Lama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand how a Lama like Lama Rinpoche can write things like this, when <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">it is well-known that he himself gave Dorje Shugden initiations and told the initiates that they were incurring a lifelong obligation to continue the practice</font>, and that breaking such an obligation would incur grave negative karma. It is very confusing and frankly, depressing.</p>
<p>Lama Zopa has written some excellent books, such as his work on the Medicine Buddha. However, his logic in this foreword is gravely flawed and perhaps even essentially anti-Buddhist. For instance, he says, “If the Precious Victorious One, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, is not the actual Buddha and Arya Avalokiteshvara, then you can say that in this world there is no emanation of Buddha benefiting sentient beings. In this way bodhicitta and the entire teachings of the Buddha become false.”</p>
<p>Say what??? I do not know whether the Dalai Lama is or is not an emanation of Avalokiteshvara, though, based on his words and actions, I sincerely doubt it. (I mean, the man has repeatedly stated in countless interviews that he is not enlightened, and seems to relish scoffing at the notion that he might be). Regardless, <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">the fact that the Dalai Lama is or is not such an emanation has nothing whatsoever to do with whether there are other emanations of Buddha</font> currently on earth benefitting sentient beings.</p>
<p>Logically, one does not rule out the possibility that other living Buddhas exist today, or other emanations of Avalokiteshvara, simply by denying that the Dalai Lama is such a one. If I deny that my wife is a panda bear, I am not denying that pandas exist. <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">Indeed, to make a claim of exclusivity on the Dalai Lama’s behalf, as Lama Zopa has done, is really anti-Mahayanan in spirit, for it belittles and denigrates the efficacy of all other Buddhist schools and traditions.</font> Someone seems to have imported the Roman Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility into Dharamsala, and now they are beginning to round up the infidels and burn them at the stake.</p>
<p>It is the height of irony that Lama Zopa urges practitioners to examine their beliefs openly and honestly, and then states as a matter of fact that the Dalai Lama is omniscient and one must adhere to what the ‘omniscient one’ says. <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">Am I not permitted to question whether the Dalai Lama is truly omniscient, and to judge this claim by the evidence of the man’s words and actions?</font> Am I not allowed to take him at his word when he says he is NOT omniscient? Am I not allowed to question his lack of success in defending the cause of Tibet, or his lack of compassion in his treatment of Shugden practitioners, or his bumbling manner in any number of interviews, or his willingness to be used as a CIA puppet or guest editor of a highly immoral fashion magazine?</p>
<p>Sadly, the recent actions of Lama Zopa and the Dalai Lama have completely soured me on Tibetan Buddhism. I have been forced to turn back to the Theravadan and Chinese teachings, because I will never again turn my will and intellect over to a guru who demands total obedience, even when he teaches one thing today and a completely different thing tomorrow. <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">With this version of Buddhism, it’s a heads-you-win, tails-I-lose situation for the sincere follower … any faults of the guru are really the fault of the practitioner, whose bad karma has caused those faults to manifest.</font> And even when the guru manifests obvious error, he still is not to be questioned because the error again is in the eye of the practitioner and only through blind loyalty can he cleanse his karma to the point where sincere questioning is of any value. If this is the case, then there is no point in advising practitioners to question and judge the teachings, because their bad karma will not allow them to make reasonable judgments. Reason itself is banished; it has become soiled and fallen and no longer can be trusted. Blind obedience becomes the only permitted path … you must believe in the Dalai Lama because he is a priori infallible and any evidence to the contrary is not credible, because ONLY the Dalai Lama represents Buddha in today’s world and EVERYONE ELSE is deluded.</p>
<p>And so the question arises: <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">if I am required to have blind faith in the Dalai Lama in order to be “saved”, what separates this form of Buddhism from any other exclusivist, country-club members only, religion?</font> What separates Buddhism from the monotheistic religions once reason has been outlawed? You can use the same “your bad karma prevents you from seeing things as they are” argument to justify any religion, any cult, any superstition, any belief whatsoever. It might take a slightly different form — “your ways are not God’s ways,” or “your reason was broken in the original fall from grace of sinful man,” but the essence is the same: don’t trust yourself, look to others, particularly those who are held up as masters, for the truth. In this way, <strong class="bbcode-strong"><font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">Lama Zopa’s attempt to defend the Dalai Lama becomes an atomic weapon capable of destroying any and all religious belief, or empowering any and all zealots of every stripe</font></strong>.</p>
<p>I find all of this unworthy of the spirit of inquiry I believe Buddha Shakyamuni promoted, and the spirit of compassion that Avalokiteshvara represents. I hope that one day all the confusion that these modern-day avatars have sowed will be cleared up and those of us who relied upon them as examples and guides on the spiritual path will have our disappointments honestly and frankly acknowledged and rectified.</p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Comment left by a Howard</strong> from <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/recognized-by-dorje-shugden-but-speaks-against-dorje-shugden/comment-page-1/#comment-911810" rel="nofollow">http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/recognized-by-dorje-shugden-but-speaks-against-dorje-shugden/comment-page-1/#comment-911810</a></p>
<p>Picture attached: HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche performs last rites for Venerable Lama Yeshe. Both these lamas were totally devoted to Dorje Shugden until the end of their lives. Decades later, Lama Zopa who has abandoned his guru Lama Yeshe&#8217;s practice of Dorje Shugden, to befriend the Dalai Lama.
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In FPMT&#039;s centre called Tushita in Dharamsala, North India, they have a statue of Lama Yeshe in the form of Vajrasattva with consort. Now the question is simple: &lt;font color=#cc0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;If Lama Yeshe practised Dorje Shugden, then he is a bad lama, so why doesn&#039;t FPMT stop the homage/respect to their founding father Lama Yeshe?&lt;/font&gt; If they trust him, they will go to three lower realms for worshipping Lama Yeshe who worshipped Dorje Shugden. And all statues of Lama Yeshe should be discarded from all their centres right? In fact, in nearby Gaden Choling Nunnery in Dharamsala, the nun&#039;s took their Dorje Shugden statue out of their main prayer hall where it was worshipped for decades and destroyed the statue in the garbage dump and jumped up and down on it to further desecrate it. 

Furthermore they make a Dorje Shugden worshipping Lama Yeshe in the form of divinity as Buddha Vajrasattva. That is a double-whammy no right? Why is FPMT so contradictory? Why are they blind to this double standard? 

&lt;font color=#cc0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;If they wish to disassociate from Dorje Shugden lamas, they have to disassociate from their own centre-founding Lama who is Lama Yeshe.&lt;/font&gt; They must set the example right. Everyone knows Lama Yeshe worshipped, trusted and believed in Dorje Shugden till the end of his life. Lama Yeshe is the one that founded FPMT, so they have to be clean across the board and be honest right? If disassociate, then do it all the way. They should have no pictures, statues and images of Lama Yeshe at all. They should not be making images of him as a deity (Vajrasattva) as that is even more wrong according to their stance against Shugden and Shugden Lamas. 

Why encourage their members to worship a Dorje Shugden loving Lama like Lama Yeshe? That is what they are doing when they keep all his images in their centres around the world. They are sending the wrong message out. Lama Yeshe was wrong in their view to practice Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe broke his refuge vows by practicing Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe&#039;s lineage, teachings, initiations and commentaries are all corrupted because he worshipped Dorje Shugden. So they should ritually expel his images from their centres with immediate effect to be in the clean arena. 

The Dalai Lama said if you worship Dorje Shugden, no one should associate with you and you will go to hell. So how come FPMT still keeps a statue of Lama Yeshe in many of their centres? Is that not hypocrisy? 

Pics attached: Lama Yeshe as Vajrasattva with Consort housed in Tushita Centre-Dharamsala AND Lama Zopa prostrating to a statue of Lama Yeshe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In FPMT&#8217;s centre called Tushita in Dharamsala, North India, they have a statue of Lama Yeshe in the form of Vajrasattva with consort. Now the question is simple: <font color=#cc0000 class="bbcode-color">If Lama Yeshe practised Dorje Shugden, then he is a bad lama, so why doesn&#8217;t FPMT stop the homage/respect to their founding father Lama Yeshe?</font> If they trust him, they will go to three lower realms for worshipping Lama Yeshe who worshipped Dorje Shugden. And all statues of Lama Yeshe should be discarded from all their centres right? In fact, in nearby Gaden Choling Nunnery in Dharamsala, the nun&#8217;s took their Dorje Shugden statue out of their main prayer hall where it was worshipped for decades and destroyed the statue in the garbage dump and jumped up and down on it to further desecrate it. </p>
<p>Furthermore they make a Dorje Shugden worshipping Lama Yeshe in the form of divinity as Buddha Vajrasattva. That is a double-whammy no right? Why is FPMT so contradictory? Why are they blind to this double standard? </p>
<p><font color=#cc0000 class="bbcode-color">If they wish to disassociate from Dorje Shugden lamas, they have to disassociate from their own centre-founding Lama who is Lama Yeshe.</font> They must set the example right. Everyone knows Lama Yeshe worshipped, trusted and believed in Dorje Shugden till the end of his life. Lama Yeshe is the one that founded FPMT, so they have to be clean across the board and be honest right? If disassociate, then do it all the way. They should have no pictures, statues and images of Lama Yeshe at all. They should not be making images of him as a deity (Vajrasattva) as that is even more wrong according to their stance against Shugden and Shugden Lamas. </p>
<p>Why encourage their members to worship a Dorje Shugden loving Lama like Lama Yeshe? That is what they are doing when they keep all his images in their centres around the world. They are sending the wrong message out. Lama Yeshe was wrong in their view to practice Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe broke his refuge vows by practicing Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe&#8217;s lineage, teachings, initiations and commentaries are all corrupted because he worshipped Dorje Shugden. So they should ritually expel his images from their centres with immediate effect to be in the clean arena. </p>
<p>The Dalai Lama said if you worship Dorje Shugden, no one should associate with you and you will go to hell. So how come FPMT still keeps a statue of Lama Yeshe in many of their centres? Is that not hypocrisy? </p>
<p>Pics attached: Lama Yeshe as Vajrasattva with Consort housed in Tushita Centre-Dharamsala AND Lama Zopa prostrating to a statue of Lama Yeshe
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		<title>By: Tenzin Paljor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenzin Paljor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>⌛️🕯🕯🕯


&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Lama Zopa, who has received sogtae (initiation of Dorje Shugden) from His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, had said that: &lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Lama (Yeshe) and I practiced Shugden for many years. That was always the main thing that Lama did whenever there were problems to overcome. At the beginning of every Kopan course, Lama always did Shugden puja to eliminate hindrances.&quot;

&quot;My root guru, His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche; Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo, His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s guru’s root guru; His Holiness Zong Rinpoche, from whom many of the older students received the initiation of Shugden; and the previous incarnation of Gomo Rinpoche, who has a strong connection with Istituto Lama Tsongkhapa, here in Italy, all promoted the practice of Shugden.&quot;

Photos: 1) Teachings by H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to FPMT students. 2) As Lama Yeshe reached the end of his life, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche came to the hospital to do prayers for Lama Yeshe. Lama Yeshe was very devoted to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden till the end. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>⌛️🕯🕯🕯</p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Lama Zopa, who has received sogtae (initiation of Dorje Shugden) from His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, had said that: </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Lama (Yeshe) and I practiced Shugden for many years. That was always the main thing that Lama did whenever there were problems to overcome. At the beginning of every Kopan course, Lama always did Shugden puja to eliminate hindrances.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My root guru, His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche; Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo, His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s guru’s root guru; His Holiness Zong Rinpoche, from whom many of the older students received the initiation of Shugden; and the previous incarnation of Gomo Rinpoche, who has a strong connection with Istituto Lama Tsongkhapa, here in Italy, all promoted the practice of Shugden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Photos: 1) Teachings by H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to FPMT students. 2) As Lama Yeshe reached the end of his life, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche came to the hospital to do prayers for Lama Yeshe. Lama Yeshe was very devoted to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden till the end. </p>
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		<title>By: Thaimonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaimonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=#1155Cc class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Too bad this had to happen- Lama Osel disrobed, never finished his studies, achieved nothing much in his secular life, just running around with his girlfriend and clubbing in Ibizia, Spain.&lt;/font&gt; His previous life accomplished so much with the help of his determination, hard work and Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe credited much of his success to the help he was bestowed by Dorje Shugden. By FPMT abanding Dorje Shugden, they broke their samaya with their lineage gurus such as Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche from whom they received the Dorje Shugden sogtae commitment practice. Also it was with Lama Yeshe’s permission they received sogtae from these great masters. By abandoning the practice, they broke their spiritual bond (samaya) which is sacred in tantra with Lama Yeshe and lineage lamas. So it is no surprise Lama Yeshe came back in this incarnation unable to manifest being a great dharma teacher like his previous life. It is a shame and embarrassment to FPMT that Lama Osel ended up not doing much. It is a testimony to their failure in keeping their samaya to their guru and lineage lamas. FPMT wanted fame and rub shoulders with the famous and in return, they lost Lama Yeshe. &lt;font color=#1155Cc class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;After Lama Zopa passes away, FPMT will just go down for sure. &lt;/font&gt;No one can take over. Breaking their samaya was the wrong thing to do. 💔 I use to respect FPMT very much but not now. Not a good example in my eyes. Many senior FPMT people left because of this. 💔

So many more pictures and information to read here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color=#1155Cc class="bbcode-color">Too bad this had to happen- Lama Osel disrobed, never finished his studies, achieved nothing much in his secular life, just running around with his girlfriend and clubbing in Ibizia, Spain.</font> His previous life accomplished so much with the help of his determination, hard work and Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe credited much of his success to the help he was bestowed by Dorje Shugden. By FPMT abanding Dorje Shugden, they broke their samaya with their lineage gurus such as Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche from whom they received the Dorje Shugden sogtae commitment practice. Also it was with Lama Yeshe’s permission they received sogtae from these great masters. By abandoning the practice, they broke their spiritual bond (samaya) which is sacred in tantra with Lama Yeshe and lineage lamas. So it is no surprise Lama Yeshe came back in this incarnation unable to manifest being a great dharma teacher like his previous life. It is a shame and embarrassment to FPMT that Lama Osel ended up not doing much. It is a testimony to their failure in keeping their samaya to their guru and lineage lamas. FPMT wanted fame and rub shoulders with the famous and in return, they lost Lama Yeshe. <font color=#1155Cc class="bbcode-color">After Lama Zopa passes away, FPMT will just go down for sure. </font>No one can take over. Breaking their samaya was the wrong thing to do. 💔 I use to respect FPMT very much but not now. Not a good example in my eyes. Many senior FPMT people left because of this. 💔</p>
<p>So many more pictures and information to read here: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0</a>
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		<title>By: kelly wenham</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly wenham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OM TARE TUTTARE TURE SOHA . SIMPLY MAY ALL BEINGS HAVE HAPPINESS AND THE CAUSE OF HAPPINESS ,rEJOICE WE HAVE THE DHARMA AND LET GO OF JUDGEMENT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM TARE TUTTARE TURE SOHA . SIMPLY MAY ALL BEINGS HAVE HAPPINESS AND THE CAUSE OF HAPPINESS ,rEJOICE WE HAVE THE DHARMA AND LET GO OF JUDGEMENT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jikme drakpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jikme drakpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If khandro la has really healed Lama Zopa, then there is nothing wrong it it. It is virtuous act that we should rejoice. But the question how can we proof that khandro has healed lama zopa. Lama zopa has been admitted hospital and is under the care of competent doctors, he has been also engaging in many meditations and ritual. How can we exclude these factors and then attribute only to Khandrola?  Once there was very sick Tibetan girl , and the night Previous Zong Rinpoche did ritual, the next morning she was cured. In this case I can almost say for sure that it was Zong Rinpoche that healed the girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If khandro la has really healed Lama Zopa, then there is nothing wrong it it. It is virtuous act that we should rejoice. But the question how can we proof that khandro has healed lama zopa. Lama zopa has been admitted hospital and is under the care of competent doctors, he has been also engaging in many meditations and ritual. How can we exclude these factors and then attribute only to Khandrola?  Once there was very sick Tibetan girl , and the night Previous Zong Rinpoche did ritual, the next morning she was cured. In this case I can almost say for sure that it was Zong Rinpoche that healed the girl.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew hibberd</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew hibberd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 09:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i was so fortunate to see the panchen lama face to face i would recognise him like it was tomorrow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i was so fortunate to see the panchen lama face to face i would recognise him like it was tomorrow</p>
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		<title>By: andrew hibberd</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew hibberd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 09:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how fortunate was i to see Lhadro with the venerable Jampa Wangdu 
how fortuanate was everyone else not even knowing shea was here 
ha ha wake up get alife .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how fortunate was i to see Lhadro with the venerable Jampa Wangdu<br />
how fortuanate was everyone else not even knowing shea was here<br />
ha ha wake up get alife .</p>
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		<title>By: just a simple dharma practitioner</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a simple dharma practitioner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 06:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gln,

Well then, if *only* buddhas are allowed to recognize other buddhas, then who gets to determine whether DS is a buddha or not? I mean it works both ways, doesn&#039;t it? Also, how does one know that HHDL&#039;s guru and Lama Zopa&#039;s guru (Lama Yeshe) didn&#039;t come to them in their dreams and give them permission to give up DS practice? You&#039;re assuming HHDL and Lama Zopa broke their samyaya, but maybe they communicated with their teachers in ways you weren&#039;t able to see. Teachers often stay in touch with their students after death - on a spiritual level, so how do you know what private instructions were imparted to HHDL and Lama Zopa from their gurus? 

Also, it&#039;s not just MY unenlightened opinion that Khadro-la is an enlightened being. But if my teachers think so, I trust their judgement on the matter. After seeing her for myself (in person) I have to say that it felt amazing to be in her presence. She gives off that subtle &quot;perfume&quot; that enlightened beings have, which is hard to put into words. Of course, every one is free to believe that someone is or isn&#039;t enlightened, so we can certainly agree on that. I&#039;m with you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gln,</p>
<p>Well then, if *only* buddhas are allowed to recognize other buddhas, then who gets to determine whether DS is a buddha or not? I mean it works both ways, doesn&#8217;t it? Also, how does one know that HHDL&#8217;s guru and Lama Zopa&#8217;s guru (Lama Yeshe) didn&#8217;t come to them in their dreams and give them permission to give up DS practice? You&#8217;re assuming HHDL and Lama Zopa broke their samyaya, but maybe they communicated with their teachers in ways you weren&#8217;t able to see. Teachers often stay in touch with their students after death &#8211; on a spiritual level, so how do you know what private instructions were imparted to HHDL and Lama Zopa from their gurus? </p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not just MY unenlightened opinion that Khadro-la is an enlightened being. But if my teachers think so, I trust their judgement on the matter. After seeing her for myself (in person) I have to say that it felt amazing to be in her presence. She gives off that subtle &#8220;perfume&#8221; that enlightened beings have, which is hard to put into words. Of course, every one is free to believe that someone is or isn&#8217;t enlightened, so we can certainly agree on that. I&#8217;m with you there.</p>
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		<title>By: gln</title>
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		<dc:creator>gln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only because some students of lama zopa thinks of him to be bodhisattva does not make him bodhisattva. so, he could be just an ordinary person who broke his samaya to his lama and it is possible that the karma of breaking samaya is falling on him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only because some students of lama zopa thinks of him to be bodhisattva does not make him bodhisattva. so, he could be just an ordinary person who broke his samaya to his lama and it is possible that the karma of breaking samaya is falling on him&#8230;</p>
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