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Lobsang Sangay, See You in Court!
« on: April 09, 2018, 09:15:33 PM »
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Most recently, they camped outside the Tibetan Parliament-in-Exile for ten days (March 14th to 24th), protesting against Sangay while the Parliament inside debated about the Penpa Tsering issue, although they were supposed to be discussing budgetary concerns. The protestors’ demands include greater clarification regarding Penpa Tsering’s dismissal, as well as an explanation for the US$1.5mil which went missing from the Tibet Fund and appears to have been mis-accounted for at best, and embezzled at worst.

From: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/lobsang-sangay-see-you-in-court/


It looks like Lobsang Sangay is challenging his own people to take him to court. With this kind of arrogant President that fights his own people, it is no wonder that the Tibetan Cause has failed and Tibetans has degenerated to this level. This is probably the worst internal dispute we have ever come across from the Tibetan leadership and its people. On top of that, this is coming from a Buddhist nation? Something is terribly wrong with this leadership. What do you guys think?

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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 11:45:20 PM »
The Tibetans are not happy with Lobsang Sangay, in fact His Holiness the Dalai Lama was also not happy with Lobsang Sangay it was reported in the news!

‘Upset’ with Tibetan PM-in-exile, Dalai Lama cancels event commemorating 1959 escape
The Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) that had organised the event, commemorating the day when the Dalai Lama left home in Lhasa, however, claimed that the event had been ‘postponed’, not cancelled.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/upset-with-tibetan-pm-in-exile-dalai-lama-cancels-event-commemorating-1959-escape/story-9vDbeWPqBt9MPkoIVtSxBK.html


Interesting part of the news:

Is the Dalai Lama angry?
“If you read between the lines, there is something to it,” said a Tibetan leader, on the condition of anonymity. He added that organisers had sent them at least four messages for the event. “First they said it is happening and then stated it is not happening,” he said, claiming that many of Sangay’s decisions are seen as attempts to get publicity in international media. An instance of this, he claimed, was the ‘Thank You India’ event.

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Re: Lobsang Sangay, See You in Court!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 09:21:15 PM »
Oh yeah when you watch the so-called Thank You India event, it was obvious that it was for him to get some limelight and The Dalai Lama was not at all impressed with him.

If you watched the live coverage, you'd see that the Dalai Lama was not "happy" with Sangay at all, the body language speaks volumes! At times, he was just ignoring him or giving Sangay the cold shoulder. At times Dalai Lama looked upset.

Well, what did the CTA get from this Thank You India event besides some fake lip servicing? And mind you Sangay speech was all about how bad China, yet at the same time he urges Tibetans to help support the Dalai Lama's request to go back to Tibet. H contradicts himself so much. It is no wonder they are not heading anywhere with anything.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 11:27:48 PM »
Everyone is unhappy with Lobsang Sangay, be it the Tibetans or His Holiness, not to mention the Indians, Chinese, Americans etc. He is the most hated leader in history, he lives in his own la-la land thinking he has the backing of America and India for the so-called Tibet card he was supposed to represent. Now that India is more interested in building the bilateral ties and Trump has changed his stand to work with China, they have all joined the world to recognize Tibet as part of China. To the world, there is no longer a Tibet cause. The Tibet autonomy is the Chinese's matter, it is between the Chinese Leadership and their people, not related to the CTA or His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The CTA is no longer valid and necessary so is the sikyong and kashag. Lobsang Sangay and the whole shebang should just pack up with the Nechung oracle who has been giving wrong advice and stop lying to the world and ask for sympathetic money for themselves.

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 05:36:12 PM »
I am surprised to read this news but happy at the same time. Finally, some Tibetans see the problems in the CTA and they dare to voice out. In the past, no one would do that because no one would question the authority.

It is time for Lobsang Sangay to have a dialogue with the people and update them on the future plan. For example, what is the direction? For how long do the Tibetans still have to wait to go back to Tibet? Are we talking about Rangzen or Middle Way? Another thing he has to be transparent with is the money issue. Let the public know what happened to the money.

Even though the CTA should run as a democratic government but Lobsang Sangay runs it like a communist party. Yes, a communist party, because he can do whatever he wants without valid reasons or explanations. He can give a high position to the people he likes, how do you think Dhardon Shaling gets her position in the government?

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2018, 11:13:35 AM »
Lobsang Sangay is such a big disgrace. What has he achieved ever since he became the Sikyong? First, the Tibetan Government In Exile was downgraded to Central Tibetan Administration; then from Prime Minister, Lobsang Sangay is downgraded to President.

There is much negative news about Lobsang Sangay. He misuses the fund and owes the Tibetans an answer; he is having an affair with Sharling Dhardon and he uses his power to give Sharling Dhardon a high position in the government; he sexually assaulted a female intern. These are just a few negative news of Lobsang Sangay, I believe there are many more.

It is good to know that some Tibetans are exercising their right. They gave the power to Lobsang Sangay, they also have the right to demand an answer from him. Unfortunately, Lobsang Sangay is running the CTA like his personal company, he refused to meet with the Tibetans to answer their questions. I hope one day many more Tibetans will join their forces and give pressure to Lobsang Sangay so that he will do what he is supposed to do as the leader of the community.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2018, 02:47:44 PM »
I am surprised to read this news but happy at the same time. Finally, some Tibetans see the problems in the CTA and they dare to voice out. In the past, no one would do that because no one would question the authority.

It is time for Lobsang Sangay to have a dialogue with the people and update them on the future plan. For example, what is the direction? For how long do the Tibetans still have to wait to go back to Tibet? Are we talking about Rangzen or Middle Way? Another thing he has to be transparent with is the money issue. Let the public know what happened to the money.

Even though the CTA should run as a democratic government but Lobsang Sangay runs it like a communist party. Yes, a communist party, because he can do whatever he wants without valid reasons or explanations. He can give a high position to the people he likes, how do you think Dhardon Shaling gets her position in the government?

Haha dream on he will have dialogue with his people and to clear the funds he and his cronies embezzled. Doing that would mean losing face and you know Tibetans, they are just like the Chinese, as much as they hate it, they are the same, afraid of losing face. And yes they are exactly like the enemies they blame! No difference, just like a pot calling the kettle black. 

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2018, 03:29:07 PM »
Maybe Lobsang Sangay thinks he will inherit the Dalai Lama's power and position. Actually I think he is in a difficult position of having to support the Dalai Lama's wish to return to Tibet and fear of losing his money games. If the Dalai Lama was to return Tibet with the refugees, will Lobsang Sangay had a position to look forward to in autonomous Tibet (if granted autonomy), that is if the Chinese let him back in. If he was to remain in his current position then he still have the few years to pile up his retirement funds and if I read correctly, the favours from the females he fancy. After all, his reputation is totally shot. What more can he achieve except to retire comfortably within the safety of America. Wonder if Trump could sue him for the funds US had doled out and not used for the refugees' welfare? Now that's a thought.

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 03:19:41 PM »
China will not want Lobsang Sangay or anyone in the CTA to be part of the administration should the Chinese government decides to let them go back to Tibet. The CTA has not initiated anything to show they want to have a dialogue with China. They know the Dalai Lama wants to go back to China but there is no solid plan.

Lobsang Sangay is still traveling around the world to condemn how China is oppressing the Tibetans. Just recently, Lobsang Sangay went to visit the Czech Republic and meet with “Friends of Tibet” group, whose purpose is to look into the Tibet issues. Clearly, Lobsang Sangay is not going towards the direction of being friendly with China.

If Lobsang Sangay continues to do that, what kind of message is he sending to China? His action is actually quite selfish because it has already been 60 years and there is no progress in the free Tibet movement, what is his plan for the Tibetans in exile? To let them remain as refugees for another 50 or 60 years? They are without an identity, they cannot move around freely, shouldn't the CTA do something for Tibetans by now?

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2019, 01:11:17 AM »
Lobsang Sangay is the most shameless leader in the world. He refuses to resign even though he was caught misusing the fund. He also refused to respond to Tibetans when he was questioned. No one in the CTA dares to speak up because all of them don't want to risk losing their job.

The CTA likes to say they are a democratic government but they are actually not. They still run the government like the in the old day, their relationship with the Tibetans is like the lord and the slave. The slave has to work very hard to make money for the lord and the slave will forever be a slave, there is no future. With a mentality like this, it is no wonder the CTA fails to give a brighter future for the Tibetans.

It is good to know that some Tibetans are now questioning Lobsang Sangay. Unfortunately, this group of people is too little to make a bigger impact. The CTA creates conflicts and disharmony in the Tibetan community for this purpose, to weaken the power of the people so they can do what they want and get away with it.

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2019, 06:03:00 PM »
Everyone is unhappy with Lobsang Sangay, be it the Tibetans or His Holiness, not to mention the Indians, Chinese, Americans etc. He is the most hated leader in history, he lives in his own la-la land thinking he has the backing of America and India for the so-called Tibet card he was supposed to represent. Now that India is more interested in building the bilateral ties and Trump has changed his stand to work with China, they have all joined the world to recognize Tibet as part of China. To the world, there is no longer a Tibet cause. The Tibet autonomy is the Chinese's matter, it is between the Chinese Leadership and their people, not related to the CTA or His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The CTA is no longer valid and necessary so is the sikyong and kashag. Lobsang Sangay and the whole shebang should just pack up with the Nechung oracle who has been giving wrong advice and stop lying to the world and ask for sympathetic money for themselves.

Lobsang Sangay is not only the worst leader for the Tibetans, but he is also the worst leader in the whole wide world! Tell me, which leader in this world is always flying here and there to beg for free money? I think Lobsang Sangay is the only one. He doesn’t put his heart in making sure the Tibetans in exile are able to go back to Tibet, instead, he always creates conflict and splits the Tibetan community into many fractions.

The reason the CTA has failed in the Tibet cause is that they don’t really want to free Tibet. They want to enjoy the free money so they don’t have to work hard. They take things for granted and they are greedy, they want more and more.

Lobsang Sangay knows the CTA will collapse very soon, that is why he doesn’t want to leave the CTA yet. He wants to use the opportunity as the president of the CTA to make more money. He has already planned his future very well. He has a US passport and he has a house in the US. He plans so well for himself but he doesn’t have a plan for the Tibetans.

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2019, 11:07:28 PM »
Everyone is unhappy with Lobsang Sangay, be it the Tibetans or His Holiness, not to mention the Indians, Chinese, Americans etc. He is the most hated leader in history, he lives in his own la-la land thinking he has the backing of America and India for the so-called Tibet card he was supposed to represent. Now that India is more interested in building the bilateral ties and Trump has changed his stand to work with China, they have all joined the world to recognize Tibet as part of China. To the world, there is no longer a Tibet cause. The Tibet autonomy is the Chinese's matter, it is between the Chinese Leadership and their people, not related to the CTA or His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The CTA is no longer valid and necessary so is the sikyong and kashag. Lobsang Sangay and the whole shebang should just pack up with the Nechung oracle who has been giving wrong advice and stop lying to the world and ask for sympathetic money for themselves.

Lobsang Sangay is not only the worst leader for the Tibetans, but he is also the worst leader in the whole wide world! Tell me, which leader in this world is always flying here and there to beg for free money? I think Lobsang Sangay is the only one. He doesn’t put his heart in making sure the Tibetans in exile are able to go back to Tibet, instead, he always creates conflict and splits the Tibetan community into many fractions.

The reason the CTA has failed in the Tibet cause is that they don’t really want to free Tibet. They want to enjoy the free money so they don’t have to work hard. They take things for granted and they are greedy, they want more and more.

Lobsang Sangay knows the CTA will collapse very soon, that is why he doesn’t want to leave the CTA yet. He wants to use the opportunity as the president of the CTA to make more money. He has already planned his future very well. He has a US passport and he has a house in the US. He plans so well for himself but he doesn’t have a plan for the Tibetans.

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Lobsang Sangay is the worst president that Tibetans can ever get. He is a womanizer, sexual abuser, and a thief. It is amazing how the Tibetans are totally oblivious of what he did and still supported him to be their president. He has been president for quite some time now and there is no progress on the most important thing for the CTA which is to get back Tibet.

There is no dialogue initiated with China and he went around the globe to talk bad about China and how they abuse Tibetans in Tibet. it is totally untrue because China has proven to be the better government for Tibet. After China took over Tibet, they invested alot of money into Tibet to make it a better place. Alot of infrastructure has been built including airports and highways.

China has also successfully brought down the percentage of Tibetans living in poverty from 25% to 7%. As we can see from the result, poverty will be eradited in a few years time in the whole Tibet. CTA will never be able to do something like this becayse they do not care the general welfare of the Tibetans.They are just tool for CTA to use and get more money.

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 09:05:22 AM »
Maybe Lobsang Sangay thinks he will inherit the Dalai Lama's power and position. Actually I think he is in a difficult position of having to support the Dalai Lama's wish to return to Tibet and fear of losing his money games. If the Dalai Lama was to return Tibet with the refugees, will Lobsang Sangay had a position to look forward to in autonomous Tibet (if granted autonomy), that is if the Chinese let him back in. If he was to remain in his current position then he still have the few years to pile up his retirement funds and if I read correctly, the favours from the females he fancy. After all, his reputation is totally shot. What more can he achieve except to retire comfortably within the safety of America. Wonder if Trump could sue him for the funds US had doled out and not used for the refugees' welfare? Now that's a thought.

Lobsang Sangay is hungry for power and money, that is why he is so shameless not wanting to resign even though people found out he siphoned the money of his people. As the president of the CTA, he has a lot of opportunities to build his network and make money. He definitely has a bigger plan for himself.  Because no one else in the Tibetan community has a better qualification than he does, no one dares to say anything.

Lobsang Sangay definitely does not respect the Dalai Lama, he may say he does but it is not true. Do you know recently Lobsang Sangay went against the Dalai Lama and they had an argument over the phone? Lobsang Sangay is only using the Dalai Lama as a money making tool, he pays no respect to the Dalai Lama.

However, Lobsang Sangay will not go against the Dalai Lama openly. He knows that he still needs Dalai Lama to control the Tibetans and deal with the Westerners. Lobsang Sangay himself does not have the commanding power. People take pity on the Tibetans mainly because of the Dalai Lama. Unless Lobsang Sangay wants to lose his source of income, otherwise he will still act like he is absolutely loyal to the Dalai Lama.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2019, 03:59:38 PM »
Yes, Lobsang Sangay is a weakling who is dependent on the Dalai Lama for sympathy funds from the sponsors. That is why he is always sabotaging the Dalai Lama's chances to go back to Tibet. That beggar is now desperately seeking sponsors all over the place in his last-ditch desperation. Obscure little countries that are only using him to irk China for better financial deals. We will see how far he gets before it all comes crumbling down.

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2019, 09:36:40 AM »
Yes, Lobsang Sangay is a weakling who is dependent on the Dalai Lama for sympathy funds from the sponsors. That is why he is always sabotaging the Dalai Lama's chances to go back to Tibet. That beggar is now desperately seeking sponsors all over the place in his last-ditch desperation. Obscure little countries that are only using him to irk China for better financial deals. We will see how far he gets before it all comes crumbling down.

It is very clear that Lobsang Sangay is just an opportunist who is only interested in money and power. He has been in the position of the president of CTA but he has not done anything significant or beneficial for the Tibetans. He is busy flying here and there to ask for free money from the west.

He has no plan for the Tibetans which he admitted when he was first elected as the president. The most ridiculous thing is that Lobsang Sangay's plan for the Free Tibet movement is for another 50 years. If they have fought for 60 years and there is no success, what makes Lobsang Sangay think it will be successful after 50 years? He has no intention to make the Free Tibet movement successful because he does not want to take responsibility.

I bet Lobsang Sangay is actually doing things for his own interest. He must know that the CTA is not going to survive for long because the Tibetans in exile are getting fewer, almost no more Tibetans are arriving in India from Tibet. Many Tibetans in exile have migrated overseas, or went back to China or taken up Indian citizenship. Lobsang Sangay is not a good leader that is for sure, he is taking advantage of the Tibetans' plight to make money for himself.