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Jessie Fong

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 02:51:02 AM »
Yes, we all have our own karma and create our own karma but how and which family we were born also have connected karma with us therefore whatever we do not just directly create karma to us directly but also to our own family. Hence if we did lot of good virtue actions, and collect a lot merit, those merit not only come to us alone but it will go over to people in our family too, this is apply to negative karma as well.

Having said that, Ratansutra, do we then also collect merits when our Dharma friends of our centre do good virtues and on the opposite end, negative karma too?  Because we do see our Dharma friends as part of a family, a Dharma family?

So if there are obstacles to a project that we are working on, then it is because of our collective negative karma that we need to purify so that the path can be smooth and any obstacles be cleared for our project's success?


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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2012, 09:00:47 AM »
Everyone is definitely connected to each other from our family, friends and here thru connected karma but whether it is a positive or negative one. Since we understand how karma works and that we are in this life now, we are able to purify the karma so that it is not carried into the next. Yes, easier said than done but we must always try rather than don't care. Whether it is our mother who gave birth to us in this life or not, our mother sentient beings in all lives, past, present and future definitely collect merits from us for we dedicate our merits to them in all of our dedication at the end of our prayers.

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2012, 11:11:36 AM »
I have another take. Since we are all connected. Imagine each individual sentient beings are connected like coordinates on a map or X/Y coordinates we learned in school or knots on a fishing net and it is infinitely big. Lets just make it easier and assume also it is flat ie in 2 dimension. Lets take one of the coordinates as us as one individual. Our mothers/father will be next to us. Also, our siblings, spouse, children would be next to us. Our friends may come and go but also very near us. If we fart, who do you think will smell it? If we spray some perfume, who will smell it. Whoever nearer!!
Collective Karma works this way. But we will bear the results of the action but they also suffer the consequences.
In the same way, if we dedicate merits to our parents they will enjoy some benefit but we will enjoy it more. In the same logic, then it would be best for them to do the action to earn the merits than we dedicate to them.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2012, 11:23:34 AM »
Everyone is definitely connected to each other from our family, friends and here thru connected karma but whether it is a positive or negative one. Since we understand how karma works and that we are in this life now, we are able to purify the karma so that it is not carried into the next. Yes, easier said than done but we must always try rather than don't care. Whether it is our mother who gave birth to us in this life or not, our mother sentient beings in all lives, past, present and future definitely collect merits from us for we dedicate our merits to them in all of our dedication at the end of our prayers.

Yes I agree that there is always a karmic connection to people we meet whether it is fleeting, in our lives for a short time or in our lives till death. Every sentient being that crossed our path can be viewed that way, from our parents, siblings and friends to people on the street, people we work with and people we fall in love with.

And this is just in this life... Imagine how intertwined we are as beings with infinite lifetimes... That is why in the Lamrim it states that we should treat every sentient being as if they were our mothers. Because chances are, they probably were at some point in our past lives. If we lived by that really simple rule, we would not be prejudice, angry, upset or hate anyone... it is that simple!

But alas our negative imprints and habituations from our previous and current lives are sometimes seemingly too strong for us to even begin to contemplate on that let alone practice it.

This once again reiterates why Buddhism for me is so simplistic in its approach yet deeper in meaning than we choose to comprehend! And at the end of the day, it is logical and it makes sense...

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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 02:30:58 AM »
When we were born in a family, it is a collective karma that we have that brings us together, we do share the merits and karma, although mainly is from our own. This is not only apply to our family, because we are family once in one of our lifetime, so anyone and everyone that we met, it does affect us on what they did, be it merits or karma.

This is a quote from Dalai Lama
The universe that we inhabit and our shared perception of it are the results of a common karma. Likewise, the places that we will experience in future rebirths will be the outcome of the karma that we share with the other beings living there. The actions of each of us, human or nonhuman, have contributed to the world in which we live. We all have a common responsibility for our world and are connected with everything in it ~ ~His Holiness The 14th Dalai Lama

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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 05:58:43 AM »
Yes, we all have our own karma and create our own karma but how and which family we were born also have connected karma with us therefore whatever we do not just directly create karma to us directly but also to our own family. Hence if we did lot of good virtue actions, and collect a lot merit, those merit not only come to us alone but it will go over to people in our family too, this is apply to negative karma as well.

Having said that, Ratansutra, do we then also collect merits when our Dharma friends of our centre do good virtues and on the opposite end, negative karma too?  Because we do see our Dharma friends as part of a family, a Dharma family?

So if there are obstacles to a project that we are working on, then it is because of our collective negative karma that we need to purify so that the path can be smooth and any obstacles be cleared for our project's success?


Yes, Jessica Fong beside individual karma, there is also different types of group karma like national karma, racial karma or other types of group karma which may affect a person's life and circumstance.

Any group which is cohesive enough to function as a unit and develop a group karma together which will affect the members of group, although each member may not have played an equal part in create this karma but they will have to bear the consequences to some degree. This is apply to the group karma that work on some project as well.

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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 09:42:26 AM »
Hello Ratanasutra

What karma has propelled us to meet on this Forum?

We have been talking about group karma, family karma and the likes.  What other types of karma are there, if any?  It cannot be national (country) karma as we are from different parts of the world, nor racial karma as we are of different race. 

I was thinking -- could this be cyber-karma?  Is there something like cyber-karma?  It would be good to know how karma works across continents.


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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 11:02:16 AM »
Hello Ratanasutra

What karma has propelled us to meet on this Forum?

We have been talking about group karma, family karma and the likes.  What other types of karma are there, if any?  It cannot be national (country) karma as we are from different parts of the world, nor racial karma as we are of different race. 

I was thinking -- could this be cyber-karma?  Is there something like cyber-karma?  It would be good to know how karma works across continents.

Hi Jessie Fong, in reply to your question, below are the info I found:


According to Jain karma theory, there are eight main types of karma which are categorized into the ‘harming’ and the ‘non-harming’, each divided into four types. Different types of karmas thus affect the soul in different ways as per their nature.

The harming karmas directly affect the soul powers by impeding its perception, knowledge and energy, and also bring about delusion.

These harming karmas are:
1.   Perception obscuring karma - Darsanavarana Karma
-   produces the obscuration of the darsana conditional upon the eye
-   causes the obscuration of the undifferentiated cognition, conditional upon the other senses and the organ of thinking
-   causes the obscuration of the transcendental undifferentiated cognition of material things
-   hinder the absolute undifferentiated cognition (the counterpart of the omniscience)

2.   Knowledge obscuring karma - Jñ?n?vara??ya Karma
-   causes the obscuration of the knowledge, transmitted through the senses
-   produces the obscuration of knowledge acquired by interpreting signs (i.e.words, writings, gestures)
-   hinders transcendental knowledge of material things
-   hinders transcendental knowledge of the thoughts of others
-   obscures the omniscience inherent in the jiva by natural disposition

3.   Obstacles creating karma - Antaraya Karma
-   hinders dispensing alms. When it operates a person who knows the merit in giving and who has something to give away, is not capable to give it, although there is someone worthy of the gift
-   hinders receiving. When it operates, a person is not capable of receiving a present, although a friendly giver and a suitable present are present
-   hinders the enjoyment of something which can only be taken once (such as eating drinking)
-   hinders the enjoyment of something which can be repeatedly used (such as a dwelling, clothing)
-   hinders the will power. When it operates, even a strong, full grown man is incapable of bending a blade of grass

4.   Deluding karma - Mohaniya Karma
-   Deluding Karma is the most dangerous, out of all the eight karmas because `moha' (attachment) is the root cause of all Kasayas (passions). It is also most difficult karma to destroy. If mohaniya karma is destroyed fully, the self becomes free from all Kasayas and liberation is assured.


The non-harming is responsible for the reborn soul's physical and mental circumstances, longevity, spiritual potential and experience of pleasant and unpleasant sensations.

 These non-harming karmas are:
1.   body determining karma - N?ma Karma
-   Causes the individual diversities of the jivas. It is divided into 93 uttara prakrtis (sub-types), which are mostly quoted in a definitely fixed succession in existence, beings and bodies

2.   life span determining karma - Ayu Karma
-   Bestows a certain quantity of life, but not a definite number of years of life. For, as with a sponge, the quantity of water that it absorbs is determined, but not the time it takes to leave it, so also the quantum of life is determined, but not the time occupied in its consumption. The word ayu would, therefore, be approximately interpreted by "quantity of life" or "quantity of vitality"

3.   status determining karma - Gotra Karma
-   Destines the rank occupied by a person through his birth. They are of two types, bestows high family surroundings and bestows low family surroundings.

4.   feeling producing karma - Vedan?ya Karma
-   causes a feeling of pleasure, created, e.g. by licking something sweet, and causes the feeling of pain, created, e.g. if one is hurt by a sword


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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 11:04:59 AM »
Hello Ratanasutra

What karma has propelled us to meet on this Forum?

We have been talking about group karma, family karma and the likes.  What other types of karma are there, if any?  It cannot be national (country) karma as we are from different parts of the world, nor racial karma as we are of different race. 

I was thinking -- could this be cyber-karma?  Is there something like cyber-karma?  It would be good to know how karma works across continents.

This topic is indeed rather intriguing as one can join the dots continuously without end. As long as there are dots (karma) there will be a link! :) So I guess we are all inextricably connected karmic wise but from how I understand it, for a collective Karma to ripen, the right conditions and polarity has to be somewhat  "opportune".

Because one cannot say that just because a group of people share similar potential karmic consequences that it will surely and naturally happen. Then it really defeats the logic of karma whereby negative karma can be averted and purified to a point where the "path" or the "results" actually change. Hence if one says collective karma overrides this, it is actually quite defeatist as it would mean no matter what one did on one's own merits, would be for nought... this cannot be right and does not make sense for me!

Having said that, what actually does attract similar karma together for it to "form" collective karma, regardless of what we coin the name? I wonder if it is like the phrase "birds of a feather, flock together" whereby there is some "magnetic field" that pulls them together. If so, then it would really explain how, in the example of the Tsunami which hit western coast of south Thailand on Boxing Day of 2004, whereby a large number of people from different backgrounds, races, religious faiths, etc were together at the "right time, right place", but yet they all share that one same karmic fate! And at the same time you hear of a "lucky" few who were meant to be there but had a change of mind or plan or even exterior interventions (missed flights, cancellations, etc). Simple in its understanding yet complex in its depth!

Here is a very interesting dialogue between Alexander Berzin and Jonathan Landaw in January 2010:

Questions Concerning Collective Karma and Natural Disasters

Jon: Many people nowadays ask, “Could collective karma cause something like an earthquake, for instance the one that just devastated Haiti?”

In answer to that, it is generally explained that the collective karma of all the beings on this planet is responsible for the general characteristics of this planet and the elements that make it up. With these elements in place, the impersonal laws of physics take over. For example, heat rises and various motions result, such as the shifting of continental plates, and so forth. One manifestation of such motion is earthquakes. From this point of view, earthquakes are the inevitable outcome of our planet’s having arisen as it is; and it has arisen as it is as the result of the very broad collective karma of all the beings who have ever lived on this planet. Could you comment on this?

Alex: Karma, or more specifically, positive or negative karmic forces (bsod-nams or sdig-pa) and karmic tendencies (sa-bon), whether individual or collective, ripen into various types of results. One of these results is a dominating result. A dominating result is our experiencing of the type of environment or society in which we are born or enter, and the way it treats us, or objects such as our possessions, and what happens to them.

[See: The Mechanism of Karma: The Mahayana Presentation Except for Gelug Prasangika, Session Three.]

In the case of the dominating result of the collective karma – the technical term is actually “shared karma” (thun-mong-gi las) – of a group of limited beings, this refers mainly to their shared experiencing of environmental or societal situations or occurrences when this group experiences them. However, we can also say that the dominating result of collective karma also refers to the environmental or societal situations or occurrences that provide the circumstances for this group to experience them.

[See: A Discourse on The Autocommentary to “A Root Text for Mahamudra” – His Holiness the Fourteenth Dalai Lama, Session Two.]

This last statement does not imply that the collective karma of this group is the only cause for the environment, for instance, that they experience when they experience it. The environment they experience, such as the make-up of the earth or the universe, is the result of innumerable other causes and conditions. In the case of the universe, its obtaining cause (nyer-len-gyi rgyu) – namely that from which we obtain the universe as its successor and which ceases to exist when its successor arises – is the Big Bang. We could subdivide the obtaining causes into those that occurred a long time ago, such as the Big Bang, and those that happened immediately preceding the present moment, such as an earthquake being the obtaining cause for the resulting shift of a tectonic plate. The moment-to-moment minor changes in the environment once it has arisen, however, such as the falling of a particular leaf from a tree, are the result of the laws of physics and so on of that universe. Nevertheless, there are also man-made results (skyes-bu byed-pa’i ‘bras-bu) concerning the environment, such as air pollution as the result of human actions. In addition, the constituent elements at a specific moment, such as the matter and energy of the universe at that moment are the simultaneously arising causes (lhan-cig ‘byung-ba’ rgyu) for the universe at that moment.

[See: Causes, Conditions, and Results.]

The collective karma that causally contributed to the formation of the earth and the physical laws that pertain to it refers to the karma shared by not only all the beings who have lived on the earth before now, but also those who are presently living on the earth, and those will live on it in the future. But since the earth is part of our entire universe and the laws of physics apply to not just the earth, but to the entire universe, we need to look at a larger scope collective karma – the collective karma of all those who have lived, are presently living, and who will live in our universe. After all, the physical nature of the universe is such that an enormous number, if not all planets made of solid matter are at some point unstable and subject to earthquakes.

Since we are talking now about the formation of the universe, the collective karma that contributed to its formation and to a large number of beings experiencing this universe would have to have been built up before the Big Bang of this universe by all the beings with the karma to be born in this universe.

Jon: But what about those people who are living in the exact place where a violent earthquake strikes, such as in Haiti this past week? To understand this, it is important to remember that (1) not everyone on this planet experienced the devastating effects of this earthquake and (2) even in Haiti itself, not everyone died or was injured in the quake. Even though it caused widespread devastation, not everyone in the devastated area was injured or killed. This indicates that those who were seriously harmed had collected the karma, both individual and collective, to experience the harm at that time, while those who were relatively unaffected had not collected such karma.

This does not mean that those who were killed were somehow “worse” people than those who escaped. We all have vast collections of karma on our mind streams, both positive and negative, and the conditions that determine which karma will ripen at what time are many and various. Someone may have “miraculously” survived the big quake, only to be killed in some other large disaster the next day, next year, or next lifetime. Can we make a distinction, then, between “broad” collective karma, which we share with all the beings on the planet, and relatively “narrow” collective karma, which we share only with a certain population from among all these beings?

Alex: Yes, we can make that distinction. There is the broadest collective karma that has contributed to the formation of a universe. This is shared by everyone who will live in that universe. Within that set, there is the subset of those with the collective karma to live on the earth. This has contributed to the formation specifically of the earth. Within that subset, there is the sub-subset of those with the collective karma to experience the earthquake in Haiti, which in a sense contributed to the occurrence of the earthquake.

Although each person within that sub-subset experienced the earthquake differently as a result of their individual karma (thun-mong ma-yin-pa’i las; unshared karma); nevertheless, we can still find further subdivisions of collective karma shared by ever smaller groups of individuals among them. For instance, some people died and some survived. Those who died had a collective karma to die in the earthquake, not just to experience being in the earthquake. Among those who died, some may have had the collective karma shared with several other people to die in the collapse of the same building. So when we speak of individual karma, it refers to experiencing something unique, not shared with anyone else, such as dying after fifteen minutes by being hit on the head by a specific beam.

Jon: To get cosmic for a moment, beings who purify their karma sufficiently and cultivate strong faith can be reborn in a so-called “pure land” or “Buddha-field,” such as that of Amitabha Buddha. They then find themselves in a world that is not subject to such violent upheavals. It is said that everything in such a pure-land rebirth, such as the sound the wind makes as it blows through the trees, imparts Dharma teachings bringing the beings in that pure land closer to enlightenment. I cite this just to underscore the point that there is a correspondence between the properties of a place and the qualities of the minds of the beings living in such a place.

In brief, beings whose minds remain under the influence of the three poisons -- ignorance, greed and hatred -- find themselves living in a world filled with all manner of harm, while those who have gained a degree of freedom from these poisonous delusions experience an environment where such harm is less common or even, as in the case of a pure-land rebirth, completely absent.

Alex: In the case of a pure land, such as Amitabha’s, the obtaining cause for its arising would be the positive force that Amitabha built up before he became enlightened and the prayers he offered also before he became enlightened. These would have been prayers dedicating the network of positive force he built up to be able to teach, in Nirmanakaya forms, non-aryas with the karma to receive teachings from a Nirmanakaya Buddha and, specifically, with the karma to be born in a Nirmanakaya pure land to receive those teachings. In addition, his prayers would have been to teach, in Sambhogakaya forms, arya bodhisattvas with the karma to receive teachings from a Sambhogakaya Buddha and, specifically, with the karma to be born in a Sambhogakaya pure land to receive those teachings. Since Amitabha would have offered those prayers as a bodhisattva long before becoming a Buddha, his pure land could also be considered a dominating result of his enlightening network of positive force.

A simultaneously acting condition (lhan-cig byed-pa’i rkyen) for the arising of Amitabha’s pure land would be the suffering of all limited beings, which would have motivated Amitabha to have compassion and make such prayers before he became enlightened. A simultaneously acting condition is an item that exists prior to the arising of something and which assists in making the arising happen, but which does not transform into what arises.

The purification practices of someone who will be reborn in Amitabha’s pure land that are done in the lifetime immediately preceding that person’s birth in that pure land cannot be considered a cause for the arising of Amitabha’s pure land. This is because Amitabha’s pure land would already have existed at that time that person engaged in those purification practices. The purification practices done by someone in the lifetime immediately preceding a pure land rebirth, plus the prayers offered in that lifetime to be reborn in Amitabha’s pure land, would be like the final drop in the network of positive force built up by that person over an enormous number of lifetimes that would result in his or her rebirth in that pure land. Only the prayers to be born in a pure land in general that all the beings with the karma to be born in Amitabha’s pure land have offered in their lifetimes while Amitabha was still a bodhisattva could function as causes to ripen into the arising of Amitabha’s pure land as their dominating result. This, however, would only be the case in conjunction with Amitabha’s prayers made before he became a Buddha. Only if these persons knew Amitabha when he was a bodhisattva and prayed to be born specifically in his pure land after he became a Buddha could their prayers ripen into Amitabha’s pure land as their comprehensive result.

Jon: I read in some Dharma text about earthquakes being related to imbalances in the earth element of sentient beings. This is interesting, but I don’t know how to interpret that statement. Any help?

Alex: I have not come across this statement, but I think we can understand it in terms of the Kalachakra presentation of karma. According to this presentation, there are innumerable universe, with each going through a cycle of eons of formation, eons of endurance, eons of disintegration, and empty eons. When one universe is in the phase of its eons of formation, another could be in the phase of its eons of disintegration. The cycles that universes undergo are not necessarily synchronous with each other.

During the empty eons between the presence of universes, the five elements of each universe have collapsed into a space particle (nam-mkha’i rdul-tshan). This space particle is reminiscent of a “black hole,” though of course there are differences. The five elements are space, wind, fire, water, and earth; or we can perhaps think of the five as space, gas or energy, heat, liquid, and solid. Specifically, the space particle consists of a trace of the grosser elemental particles of a universe which are not longer joined together. In this situation, the ordinary laws of physics of that collapsed previous universe are no longer operating among those traces. The space particle for a universe that has not yet happened functions as the basis for the grosser particles of the five elements of that universe that will subsequently arise.

Kalachakra also speaks of the winds of karma (las-kyi rlung), which refer to the subtle energies that carry the karmic forces and tendencies of individuals. At the end of the empty eon, for instance, prior to the Big Bang that formed our universe, the winds of the collective karma of the beings with the karma to be born in our universe affected the space particle for our universe. They caused that space particle to explode with the Big Bang and evolve into our universe with its specific characteristics and laws of physics.

At the time of the Big Bang, those beings with the karma to be born in our universe, and whose collective karma was influencing the formation of our universe, would have been situated in other universes. As samsaric beings, the five elements of their bodies would have been out of balance. Consequently, the winds of their collective karma would have affected the space particle for our universe in such a way as to cause the five grosser elements of our universe that would evolve from them also to be out of balance. In this way, we could explain that an imbalance of the earth element in the beings with the karma to be born in our universe contributed to the imbalance of the earth element on this planet, resulting in an earthquake.

[See: Taking the Kalachakra Initiation, chapter 3.]

Jon: The Kalachakra teaching explains the relation between collective karma and the fact that rocky planets in our universe are subject to instability and earthquakes. But what would be an example of the collective karma that would result in a group of people experiencing a specific earthquake together? Is it something that these beings have actually done, as in the often cited case of the villagers who threw sand at some monks and were later buried in a sandstorm? Or is it something more subtle and pervasive than that?

Alex: This is, of course, a very difficult question to answer. A group of beings experiencing together a specific imbalance of the earth element of this planet would need to have built up the collective karma for that by them all participating in a specific act. That act would need to have been causing an imbalance of the earth element of an area, which others experienced and were harmed by. For instance, that destructive act could have been a group of people working together on a project that damaged the environment and caused hills to collapse or mud slides to happen. Or the group could have been involved with blasting operations in conjunction with mining.

Remember, however, samsaric beings have lived on innumerable planets in innumerable universes. The collective karma of the beings who experience a specific earthquake on a specific planet would not necessarily have been built up by a shared destructive act that they committed together on that planet. They could have committed that act on some other plant at any time in the past. Because of greed and naivety, I am sure that samsaric beings have destroyed the environment on innumerable planets innumerable times. But only a Buddha would know which specific karmic act ripened into which specific karmic result. Karma, after all, is the most difficult topic of all to understand fully in all its details.

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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2013, 09:42:13 AM »
Through my basic understanding we should have a connection with our current life's family and friends. Either we are owing them or them owing us still. When i said owing is not in the form of material or money but in terms of the things we have done in our previous life eg. favor, deeds and so on. For instance sometimes you will notice if one family are very close to each other this could be all the family members have a very strong connection in their previous life. They could gather this life together and do good things to achieve higher purpose in their life. Their actions will continue to their next life as well. Where else if the family is constantly arguing and do bad things to each other, they could gather in this life by their negative actions from their past life.

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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2013, 09:09:13 AM »
I find this topic to be very interesting.

Yes , i do believe that we are all karmically connected one way or another. Family , friends, co workers even to the animals that are in our lives. I've heard about this term 'group karma' where a group of people are incarnated in the same lifetime to help and support each other to either 'work out' the negative karma from the past or to initiate good karma in this lifetime.
Our parents, especially our mothers, who have loved, cared, guided and sacrificed so much for us , who birthed us to give us life so that we have every opportunity in this lifetime to gain attainments - definitely deserves our love in return. Besides the obvious of showing them love, respect and taking good care of them when they are still on earth - we can dedicate our good deeds, merits and prayers to them , even when have passed on , so they can have good rebirths in all future lives.

Though, it's true, that our every action and deed in this lifetime dictates our future karma and rebirths, we must also consider that these actions will also affect our children and their children and their descendants.
Sins of the Fathers is another term that i have come across : that how one man's evil doings are heaped up upon his children, and i have personally witness this happening in some families.
If the father is still alive, and also realises that his 'sins' have caused his children great sufferings - the pain and anguish that the father feels is just totally overwhelming and , in some cases, too late for the father to make amends and correct his past actions. If the father has passed on, the negative karma he has incurred will ripen in his future lives - which could possibly be even worse.

Whatever we do in this lifetime, we must be mindful to show Loving Kindness and Compassion to ALL sentient beings. Who is to know if that person or animal we are abusing, harming and causing suffering has not been our mother in one of our past lives or perhaps be one of our children in the next lifetimes ?

Yes we definitely are all connected with our respective karma.
 



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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2013, 12:47:26 PM »
I believe we have to be karmically connected one way or another with your friends and family members in this lifetime for all the things that we have done, either good things or bad things will inflict on what we are going to be soon in future lifetimes. Whatever we do will affect our parents too as it was due to their existence that we exist today. It is up to us to either benefit or harm people that we are connected with this life and especially our family members. They have to be associated with us heavily in our previous life time for not they will not be born to be our close relative.

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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2013, 06:04:49 PM »
It is really not that hard for me , the way i see it . When we start to do more good deeds , very naturally our very own character transforms for the better . We should not be so fixated to think of "collecting" merits for our future lives and also dedicating them to our loved ones and whether they will effectively receive them or not. We should look at it as our very own transformation to becoming a kinder and more giving human that exists to benefit others. With that I dont find it hard to see how our loved ones would NOT benefit from our transformation immediately and in this life time. This is ESPECIALLY true for our karmically connected loved ones , like our mother. Which kind son would not benefit his mother directly or indirectly ?

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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2013, 06:33:11 PM »
In the teachings on Dependent Arising, it is mentioned that all sentient being are inter-connected.  The effect of a sentient being’s action is the cause for another sentient being.  And that cause leads to another effect and so on. This inter-connection is very huge, complicated and beyond description as there are countless sentient beings!  Hence whatever that we do does have an impact on others and vice versa.  If we perform many virtuous actions, our mother collects merits because our mother is the cause of us being born in this world. 

If we help our Dharma brothers or sisters, then our Dharma brothers or sisters can be relieved from their work and they then can do something else to benefit others. We reap the merits of not just benefiting our Dharma brothers and sisters; we are also getting merits for helping others indirectly through helping our Dharma brothers and sisters! This interconnection goes on and on.  Imagine the advantage of benefiting others by helping to fulfill our spiritual guides’ wishes!

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Re: Connected karma
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2013, 03:46:07 AM »
That's true. I heard my monk friend had once told me that any pujas I do to Dorje Shugden or any Buddha can be dedicated to loved ones like my parents. He told me that during crucial moments like sickness and death, our prayers are the most potent compared to prayers made by a friend or a complete stranger.

He said that's because we are karmically connected in this life and this lifeline is a powerful way to dedicate merits to our loved ones. It is not a magical invisible net but the fact that we are intimately connected to these individuals during this lifetime. However, the most potent connection for practitioners should be towards our Lama, who bestowed our refuge, bodhisattva and tantric vows. If we keep this samaya clean, then, when our moment of death comes, a simple visualizations will be enough to trigger our good karma to open and we take a good rebirth. The same can be done to perform prayers and pujas for others.