Lama Yeshe was a very attained Buddhist master, he was one of the pioneers who went to the west to spread Dharma. Most of his bigger sponsors were also westerners. It was a pity Lama Yeshe passed away at such a young age, perhaps his students didn’t have enough merits to keep him with them. The students had the chance to have Lama Yeshe’s reincarnation back in the centre again but they lost the chance by breaking their Samaya with their lama when they gave up Dorje Shugden practice.

They have put up a Lama Yeshe’s statue and venerate the statue in their centre but what is the point when they cannot even convince the reincarnation to come back as the spiritual head in FPMT? Unless they think Lama Osel is not the real incarnation of their teacher? A real person can give instruction and advice, why are the students not trying to get Lama Osel back? If Lama Zopa is not around anymore, who is going to lead FPMT and be the spokesperson of the centre to raise fund?

At the moment, Lama Zopa seems to be the only highly qualified and famous lama in FPMT. There is no other teacher in FPMT as famous as he is. If Lama Zopa and the Dalai Lama pass away, what would happen to FPMT if Lama Osel does not want to go back to lead the center?

The students should realise that there should always be a highly qualified teacher in the center especially for an organisation as big as FPMT. They should quickly repair their samaya with Lama Osel to create the cause and generate merits to have him back. Lama Osel’s previous life was a great teacher, if the condition is conducive, I believe he can also be as successful as his previous life even though he has disrobed now.

So many more pictures and information to read here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this. They don’t speak out not because they don’t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. There is no harmony. Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point. You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile. Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans. Just like a dictator, you decide on your own. It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society. There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you. All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong. Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

I wonder what “lama” Osel witnessed while growing up. If the monastery had been as loving as presumed, he would not have been so hostile about FMTP.

In the 1990s and for the next 10 years, I liked FPMT and followed their events. I am glad I did not commit any further. I am free of trivia, such as the profound discussion above.

Therefore there cannot be any other cause for these results, other than broken samaya.

However, c ould it be other reasons than breaking samaya with Lama Yeshe, that making FPMT to fall or will be contributing to the fall of FPMT? Lama Osel to disrobed?

Can someone please shed some light on this?

It’s hard to “go against the wind” but the consequences of forsaking practices by your Gurus is too highly the price to pay…from what happened to FPMT and Kopan Monastery..the future of FPMT is at risk…

…Can something to be done to reverse what have been wrong? We all do not wish to see FPMT to fall, and wish Lama Osel could turn the dharma wheel as his predecessor…I guess resume and continue the practice of Dorje Shugden and any instructions passed down by Lama Yeshe would be the answer. This seems hard but can be easy as well – fix one thing to fix all.

I do not understand why did Lama Zopa decided to follow what the Dalai Lama has said about the ban as well. It meant that he had to give up on the practice that was given to him by his guru, at the same time, also the practice that His guru held so close to.

I really hope that FPMT would quickly sort out their thoughts and repair the broken samsaya with their guru before it is too late. Personally I feel that Lama Osel has disrobe in order to “teach” FPMT a lesson but they failed to pick up.