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		<title>By: Dorje S</title>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this beautiful article about Rabten Choeling Switzerland. I have read about Geshe Rabten Rinpoche from somewhere else, since then I always respected him a lot because he is really a very humble, pure monk who contributed much in preserving pure Gelug lineage from the west. 

Not only that, I believe the success of Rabten Choeling owes much to Anne Ansermet and her Geneva group too. The survival of any Dharma centre depends very much on the students. Anne Ansermet who not only financed the centre but she herself became ordained shows us her determination in bringing Dharma to many.  And this is the most beautiful and inspiring part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this beautiful article about Rabten Choeling Switzerland. I have read about Geshe Rabten Rinpoche from somewhere else, since then I always respected him a lot because he is really a very humble, pure monk who contributed much in preserving pure Gelug lineage from the west. </p>
<p>Not only that, I believe the success of Rabten Choeling owes much to Anne Ansermet and her Geneva group too. The survival of any Dharma centre depends very much on the students. Anne Ansermet who not only financed the centre but she herself became ordained shows us her determination in bringing Dharma to many.  And this is the most beautiful and inspiring part.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalai Lama should set things right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalai Lama should set things right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dalai Lama,

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.&lt;/font&gt; They don&#039;t speak out not because they don&#039;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There is no harmony.&lt;/font&gt; Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.&lt;/font&gt; You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.&lt;/font&gt;

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.&lt;/font&gt; Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.&lt;/font&gt; Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

&lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.&lt;/font&gt; There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.&lt;/font&gt; All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.&lt;/font&gt; Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dalai Lama,</p>
<p>Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.</font> They don&#8217;t speak out not because they don&#8217;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There is no harmony.</font> Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.</p>
<p>By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.</p>
<p>It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.</font> You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.</p>
<p>Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.</font></p>
<p>You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.</font> Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.</font> Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.</p>
<p>No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.</p>
<p><font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.</font> There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.</p>
<p>You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.</p>
<p>After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.</p>
<p>Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.</font> All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.</p>
<p>The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.</font> Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.</p>
<p>Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2017 10:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karma tsewang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karma tsewang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2017 11:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think worst and evil dieties 
Is rinpoche puja for death spirit what a shame.
Is Buddha reincarnated dorjee shugden.
Fuck dorjee shugden and fuck you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think worst and evil dieties<br />
Is rinpoche puja for death spirit what a shame.<br />
Is Buddha reincarnated dorjee shugden.<br />
Fuck dorjee shugden and fuck you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sierra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many lamas who practices Dorje Shugden have quietly gone ahead with spreading the dharma and benefiting many people. They have gone ahead and established many dharma centres around Europe where many have thought that Buddhism would not flourish.

These lamas&#039; commitment and hardwork are very much appreciated. Their devotion to the Guru, dharma and Dorje Shugden is so very exemplary.

Moreover, if Dorje Shugden were an evil demon, the various lamas&#039; reincarnations would not return to teach the Dharma.

May Rabten Choeling florish to bring Dharma to benefit many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many lamas who practices Dorje Shugden have quietly gone ahead with spreading the dharma and benefiting many people. They have gone ahead and established many dharma centres around Europe where many have thought that Buddhism would not flourish.</p>
<p>These lamas&#8217; commitment and hardwork are very much appreciated. Their devotion to the Guru, dharma and Dorje Shugden is so very exemplary.</p>
<p>Moreover, if Dorje Shugden were an evil demon, the various lamas&#8217; reincarnations would not return to teach the Dharma.</p>
<p>May Rabten Choeling florish to bring Dharma to benefit many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronykhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronykhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though these high Lamas set up their monasteries in different parts of the world, far from each other, they still keep in close contact and provide support for each other. For example, when  H.H. Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche needed to leave India to get away from the strains of the controversial Ban, immediately support was given by many high Lamas and  H.H. Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche was sent to Rabten Choeling in Switzerland.
In the photos and videos of the recent grand opening of Gaden Khachoe Shing in Bloomington, Indiana USA , also saw the harmonious get together of all these high Lamas. This harmony and strength and devotion will quickly bring down the Ban.
May all of these high Lamas live long to turn the wheel of Dharma in order to help all sentient beings to enlightment !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though these high Lamas set up their monasteries in different parts of the world, far from each other, they still keep in close contact and provide support for each other. For example, when  H.H. Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche needed to leave India to get away from the strains of the controversial Ban, immediately support was given by many high Lamas and  H.H. Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche was sent to Rabten Choeling in Switzerland.<br />
In the photos and videos of the recent grand opening of Gaden Khachoe Shing in Bloomington, Indiana USA , also saw the harmonious get together of all these high Lamas. This harmony and strength and devotion will quickly bring down the Ban.<br />
May all of these high Lamas live long to turn the wheel of Dharma in order to help all sentient beings to enlightment !</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat! I heard or read somewhere that Geshe Rabten when he was alive, would have a taste of his Guru&#039;s pee because he visualised it to be nectar. It was said that he gain realisation of emptiness in the middle of a debate. Its no wonder his institutions grew because he is not an ordinary lama. Although he didn&#039;t have a long line of incarnations but he is a living example that when one follow&#039;s Lama Tsongkhapa&#039;s teachings, one would definitely gain realization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat! I heard or read somewhere that Geshe Rabten when he was alive, would have a taste of his Guru&#8217;s pee because he visualised it to be nectar. It was said that he gain realisation of emptiness in the middle of a debate. Its no wonder his institutions grew because he is not an ordinary lama. Although he didn&#8217;t have a long line of incarnations but he is a living example that when one follow&#8217;s Lama Tsongkhapa&#8217;s teachings, one would definitely gain realization.</p>
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		<title>By: bambi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bambi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really nice that you guys are promoting and providing such interesting write-ups regarding the centers around the world. What I really love when reading these articles, is how all those people persevered even though their Guru is not around, they continued to maintain and even make it grow bigger! 
Again, I would like to understand, if Lord Dorje Shugden is a &#039;demon&#039; and all those who practice them will go to hell, how come so many of these great Lamas reincarnate and come back to teach again? And if they are &#039;fake&#039;, how come they are so learned and able to teach at such young age?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really nice that you guys are promoting and providing such interesting write-ups regarding the centers around the world. What I really love when reading these articles, is how all those people persevered even though their Guru is not around, they continued to maintain and even make it grow bigger!<br />
Again, I would like to understand, if Lord Dorje Shugden is a &#8216;demon&#8217; and all those who practice them will go to hell, how come so many of these great Lamas reincarnate and come back to teach again? And if they are &#8216;fake&#8217;, how come they are so learned and able to teach at such young age?</p>
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