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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2019, 10:01:45 PM »
President Xi of China is a very far-sighted strategist who plans for long term benefits of his country and actually the world too. There are many actions that China had taken that seem questionable and yet they fall into place and the world grudgingly concede that he is right. All the hardline actions against any instability in China is to make it an example so that there will not be any disruption to the peace of the people. He had also "conquered" the world with his peaceful economic take over rather than destruction to the countries like a big bully. So all in all, I would say that President Xi is a good leader to have. CTA with Lobsang Sangay does not even begin to match up. Nope. Not even an iota of what President Xi has accomplished. All Lobsang Sangay has done is to self-indulge in serving to his own needs before others. There goes the Dalai Lama's wish to return to Tibet and it seems an impossibility now. Sad.

President Deng Xiaoping was the one who opened the door of China to the outside world. President Xi brings China to another level in the international arena. Both presidents are ambitious but not for their own benefit, they are doing this for the benefit of the people. When people of a country become competitive and wealthy, so is the country.

President Xi doesn't believe in dominance. He could have kept the wealth of the world to China but he didn't. He believes in the win-win approach. He also understands all of us are interdependent and thus we have to work with each other in harmony. War starts when there is extreme unfairness, win-win approach ensure this is not happening.

For CTA, it is a completely different story. They don't believe in the Middle Way or the win-win approach. That is why until today they still have not started to negotiate with China. They should know by now to free Tibet is impossible, the next best thing is to get the autonomous status for Tibet. Being greedy means losing everything. I wonder when will CTA learn this.

Totally agree with you but CTA will never see this. Now that the Dalai Lama is old and not feeling well to limit his travel activities, Lobsang Sangay tries to step in to do more international engagements. But of course, after years and years of dependency on the Dalai Lama, he is not holding court with any influential people of position that matters. All he gets is 2nd or 3rd liners that most often don't even hold any weight in governmental decisions anymore.

Definitely, all Tibetans should seriously consider returning to China if they are not doing well in their current state. China had invested and is still investing huge amount into Tibet and the people are benefitting from it. I would say that those who complain are those who are still in the old mentality of having things handed to them without having to work for it, which China frowns on. In China, reward is base on effort. It is only CTA who practice otherwise as they lived off begging for so many years that it has become 2nd nature to them and its programmed into their sense of entitlement. All this I would say is the Tibetan Leaders' failures at guiding their people to meet the world's living conditions after their exile.

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2019, 10:57:42 PM »
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Nepal Army chief meets China's Def Min; discusses plans to upgrade military ties

Nepal also signed a transit treaty with China to use Chinese ports for its foreign trade in a bid to reduce dependence on Indian ports.

Under the "one China" policy, Nepal for its part has been cracking down hard on Tibetans crossing into India through Nepal to meet the Dalai Lama.

Source: https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/nepal-army-chief-meets-china-s-def-min-discusses-plans-to-upgrade-military-ties-119062000900_1.html

Actually, I am not sure that if Tibetans wish to return to Tibet, China these days whether it will be welcomed anymore as China is seeing them more and more as a nuisance than anything else.

Well, whatever it may be, Tibetans in Nepal better behave themselves as Nepal will no longer tolerate their nonsense especially since now they will further rely on China's Military and they intend to have a very good and strong relationship with cooperation from Nepal.

Looks like Nepal is no longer a good place for CTA disseminate their poison and create havoc, their propaganda against China and Shugden will no longer be accepted.

It is highly possible that they will soon crackdown all the CTA/Dalai Lama supporters who always create problems.

"Wei stated the Chinese military's willingness to work with the Nepalese side to maintain sound development momentum of bilateral military ties, step up long-term planning and top-level design of military cooperation and promote continuous consolidation, deepening and upgrading of the ties between the two militaries, the report said."

"Thapa expressed Nepal's appreciation towards China's long-term support and help, saying the Nepalese armed forces were willing to step up cooperation with China in various areas and contribute to deepening the Nepal-China friendship."

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2019, 11:02:31 PM »
China always looks into the stability of their country. They will not allow any activities that go against this policy. For this, the Tibetan can rest assured that they will not be forced to be separated, discrimination or any sort of treatment that will cause any instability.

Why? This is because China has a huge population that they can't effort to be out of control and any havoc happen it's not going to be easy to manage. China working very hard to boost the economy not only giving many opportunities for their own people but to the point of creating the opportunity for other countries as well.

Look at the different Tibetan in China and Tibetan in India. Which will you prefer to stay?

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2019, 06:49:51 PM »
Yes, China do so much for the Tibetans and their standard of living. Here is a news article of the Tibetan is grateful to be earning.

"In 2017, Guangdong, one of the most developed provinces in China, bankrolled an international tourism development project in Lunang. Local residents like Lhapa Tsering, 42, were sent to receive training on providing quality dining and accommodation services to visitors.

In 2018, the township made 70 million yuan (about 10 million U.S. dollars) in revenue from tourism, local authorities said.

Lhapa Tsering made about half a million yuan last year. "Life has become as good as it can be," he said."

Source: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/22/c_138164456.htm

Wow! Half a million yuan ----- that is a fortune. And Lobsang Sangay is going all over the place putting China down. The truth is the Tibetans appreciate all these opportunities. Lobsang Sangay is totally a liar in whatever he says otherwise.

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2019, 11:15:29 PM »
Definitely, Tibetans should return to Tibet if they wish for a better future.

CTA and the hypocrite lousy leader Lobsang Sangay can say whatever they want to say about the "horrible" situation in Tibet, of course as usual without much proof, while on the other side China will keep developing Tibet to become a world-class Tourism industry. This will obviously help in decreasing poverty in Tibet as there are tangible results to look forward to. This is also being witnessed by the world, as Beijing makes it one of their goals to change the world's perspective on the way they handle Tibet. They will do all they can to change that perspective in order to gather strong support and good allies for their overall global growth. China is always thinking big and thinking way ahead into the future and unfortunately, that future does not include stupid CTA who is always creating problems for them. They sure are dumb, hopeful new elections will bring them a better President with real brains this time. Is there such a potential amongst Tibetans? Usually, it is the high Lamas that has the wisdom, foresight and brains. Unfortunately, they are not supposed to deal with politics any more.

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Tibet gets staunch support in battle against poverty

Source:Xinhua Published: 2019/6/22 16:00:09

The township of Lunang in the southeastern part of Tibet has become a booming tourist destination for those who want to experience the challenge of climbing a plateau while still enjoying enough oxygen. 

Last year, over 1 million tourists visited the small township in Nyingchi, which is at a lower altitude than Lhasa, capital of Tibet Autonomous Region. Lunang is described as an oxygen bar with alpine beauty comparable to that of Switzerland. 

In 2017, Guangdong, one of the most developed provinces in China, bankrolled an international tourism development project in Lunang. Local residents like Lhapa Tsering, 42, were sent to receive training on providing quality dining and accommodation services to visitors. 

In 2018, the township made 70 million yuan (about 10 million US dollars) in revenue from tourism, local authorities said. 

Lhapa Tsering made about half a million yuan last year. "Life has become as good as it can be," he said. 

The leapfrog development of ecological tourism in Lunang is both a result and an example of "pairing-up support for Tibet" from provincial-level regions and centrally-administered enterprises. 

With the pairing-up support policy, which started in 1994, certain provinces, municipalities and state-owned enterprises are designated to render assistance to different places of the plateau region for development. 

These authorities and organizations gathered in Nyingchi Monday for a special working conference on how to better help Tibet eradicate absolute poverty and create jobs for this year and the next. More than 200 projects were signed during the conference, with a planned investment of over 21.5 billion yuan. 

Statistics show that last year, 17 provincial-level regions and 16 centrally-administered companies invested over 9 billion yuan to the region. Close to 69 percent of the fund went to 44 counties with a large number of the population live under the poverty line of per capita annual income of 2,230 yuan. 

Most of the fund has been spent on the grassroots level to help herders and farmers, said a source of the Tibet autonomous regional poverty relief and development office. 

Located above 4,000 meters above sea level, Tibet is one of the main grounds in China's nationwide battle against poverty. The region has made great progress since anti-poverty campaigns began, and it needs to consolidate the results, said Liu Yongfu, director of the State Council Leading Group Office of Poverty Alleviation and Development, at the conference. 

This year, Tibet aims to lift the remaining 150,000 people out of poverty and take 19 counties off the list of poverty. 

Aid from other provinces has helped shore up industries to achieve the anti-poverty targets. In Xigaze, where Mount Qomolangma is located, companies from Shanghai set up factories to process and sell trademark products such as saffron, trout and Thangka paintings. 

Funds, talent and expertise from developed cities like Shanghai have helped local Tibetans set up high-end factories rather than low-end ones, authorities said. 

Meanwhile, aid to Tibet has been used to build the region's financial, medical and educational services, among others. 

China Development Bank has issued 52.3 billion yuan of loans to impoverished counties in Tibet, benefitting over 400,000 people, said Zhao Huan, the bank board chairman. 

Sinopec, a centrally-administered state-owned enterprise, helped sell bottled water from the region through its sales network. By the end of 2018, over 1 billion bottles had been sold, the company said. 

Groups of education and medical specialists have been sent to Tibet. Doctors from Guangdong set up the first hemodialysis center in Nyingchi. In the last four years, 600 medical workers have provided assistance to hospitals and patients in Tibet.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1155280.shtml

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2019, 04:57:07 PM »
Definitely, Tibetans should return to Tibet if they wish for a better future.

CTA and the hypocrite lousy leader Lobsang Sangay can say whatever they want to say about the "horrible" situation in Tibet, of course as usual without much proof, while on the other side China will keep developing Tibet to become a world-class Tourism industry. This will obviously help in decreasing poverty in Tibet as there are tangible results to look forward to. This is also being witnessed by the world, as Beijing makes it one of their goals to change the world's perspective on the way they handle Tibet. They will do all they can to change that perspective in order to gather strong support and good allies for their overall global growth. China is always thinking big and thinking way ahead into the future and unfortunately, that future does not include stupid CTA who is always creating problems for them. They sure are dumb, hopeful new elections will bring them a better President with real brains this time. Is there such a potential amongst Tibetans? Usually, it is the high Lamas that has the wisdom, foresight and brains. Unfortunately, they are not supposed to deal with politics any more.


CTA really has some brain issues because while they keep saying China is making Tibet worst when there is plenty of evidence of Tibet becoming a better place now under China's governance. Who would believe them? Does CTA think that everyone is as dumb as them and not check the news before believing them? Their words are not convincing at all.

With the current CTA leadership, Tibet will never be a free country. There is no way they can negotiate with China to get back Tibet's independence. They have wasted 60 years of their lives waiting and waiting and yet, no results. They have missed the opportunity to get back Tibet now.

China had invested a lot into Tibet and it is illogical for them to take their hands off Tibet now. Tibet had flourished with China's help. It is so much better than the Tibet before the invasion in 1959. Tibetans just have to accept that China's government is much better than their government.

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2019, 10:47:30 AM »
I have heard of how China refurbish monastery and make Tibet a tourist spot. This is good news and will create a lot of opportunity for Tibetan in Tibet. I don't China will torture Tibetan and as far as I know, China is very particular in his people stability and would not allow any disharmony. Compare the situation in India, I believe Tibetan in China is much better in their style of living. In India, CTA will not do anything like what did to Tibetan in Tibet and in term of their future China will not let Tibet be a white elephant.

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« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2019, 09:16:34 AM »
CTA really has some brain issues because while they keep saying China is making Tibet worst when there is plenty of evidence of Tibet becoming a better place now under China's governance. Who would believe them? Does CTA think that everyone is as dumb as them and not check the news before believing them? Their words are not convincing at all.

With the current CTA leadership, Tibet will never be a free country. There is no way they can negotiate with China to get back Tibet's independence. They have wasted 60 years of their lives waiting and waiting and yet, no results. They have missed the opportunity to get back Tibet now.

China had invested a lot into Tibet and it is illogical for them to take their hands off Tibet now. Tibet had flourished with China's help. It is so much better than the Tibet before the invasion in 1959. Tibetans just have to accept that China's government is much better than their government.

And you know what? CTA is losing control over their people anyway. There are news of Sakya monks in Nepal visiting Dorje Shugden related websites and learning of the truth daily. So who's to say that others are not doing the same? Haha! CTA has no control over this at all. Lobsang Sangay for all his rhetoric will never regain the trust of the people, especially when they read for themselves the truth and will start to doubt everything that CTA says. End of the road for CTA and Lobsang Sangay.

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2019, 05:00:02 AM »
CTA really has some brain issues because while they keep saying China is making Tibet worst when there is plenty of evidence of Tibet becoming a better place now under China's governance. Who would believe them? Does CTA think that everyone is as dumb as them and not check the news before believing them? Their words are not convincing at all.

With the current CTA leadership, Tibet will never be a free country. There is no way they can negotiate with China to get back Tibet's independence. They have wasted 60 years of their lives waiting and waiting and yet, no results. They have missed the opportunity to get back Tibet now.

China had invested a lot into Tibet and it is illogical for them to take their hands off Tibet now. Tibet had flourished with China's help. It is so much better than the Tibet before the invasion in 1959. Tibetans just have to accept that China's government is much better than their government.

And you know what? CTA is losing control over their people anyway. There are news of Sakya monks in Nepal visiting Dorje Shugden related websites and learning of the truth daily. So who's to say that others are not doing the same? Haha! CTA has no control over this at all. Lobsang Sangay for all his rhetoric will never regain the trust of the people, especially when they read for themselves the truth and will start to doubt everything that CTA says. End of the road for CTA and Lobsang Sangay.

CTA think they can fool the people by hiding the truth and keep forcing lies onto their own people. There is no way for the people to find out the truth and they will not be fooled by them forever. Many Tibetans in exile know about their lies and choose to flee to other countries to seek a better future and many of them lead a successful life now.

CTA should know by now that the number of Tibetans in exile is decreasing year by year and soon there will be no one left for them to govern over and they will have to dissolve. It is actually better for them to dissolve because it will be less trouble for everyone and it will be better for the world.

CTA is nothing but trouble for everyone around them. All they do is to take and use people around them including their own people. They even go as far as encouraging their people to kill themselves just to generate attention to get donations. This is how low the CTA can go.

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2019, 06:06:23 AM »
And you know what? CTA is losing control over their people anyway. There are news of Sakya monks in Nepal visiting Dorje Shugden related websites and learning of the truth daily. So who's to say that others are not doing the same? Haha! CTA has no control over this at all. Lobsang Sangay for all his rhetoric will never regain the trust of the people, especially when they read for themselves the truth and will start to doubt everything that CTA says. End of the road for CTA and Lobsang Sangay.

Many Tibetans don't trust CTA anymore because they don't keep their promises and they always blame others for their failure. They cannot even give Tibetans a clear timeline how much longer they have to fight to free Tibet. Lobsang Sangay is busy flying here and there to garner supports but what did he deliver at the end of the day? Nothing really.

China is different, China has progressed so much for the past 30 years. From a backward country, China has become one of the super power of the world, commanding world's economy. There are so much more opportunities and possibilities in Tibet than in India or else where. Tibetans should know by now to free Tibet is not really possible. To go back to Tibet (China) will be the best choice they can make.

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Re: It is better to return to Tibet, China
« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2019, 04:28:33 AM »
And you know what? CTA is losing control over their people anyway. There are news of Sakya monks in Nepal visiting Dorje Shugden related websites and learning of the truth daily. So who's to say that others are not doing the same? Haha! CTA has no control over this at all. Lobsang Sangay for all his rhetoric will never regain the trust of the people, especially when they read for themselves the truth and will start to doubt everything that CTA says. End of the road for CTA and Lobsang Sangay.

Many Tibetans don't trust CTA anymore because they don't keep their promises and they always blame others for their failure. They cannot even give Tibetans a clear timeline how much longer they have to fight to free Tibet. Lobsang Sangay is busy flying here and there to garner supports but what did he deliver at the end of the day? Nothing really.

China is different, China has progressed so much for the past 30 years. From a backward country, China has become one of the super power of the world, commanding world's economy. There are so much more opportunities and possibilities in Tibet than in India or else where. Tibetans should know by now to free Tibet is not really possible. To go back to Tibet (China) will be the best choice they can make.

China's progress over the 60 years is very different than the Tibetan's progress. China became one of the most powerful countries in the world while Tibetans are still hiding in their Tibetan settlements in India. How long do the Tibetans plan to stay in India? They had stayed for more than half a century already.

No one stays as a refugee for over half a century and has no progress at all. The Tibetans are just fooling around for the past 60 years thinking that they can force the Chinese to give them back Tibet just by pressuring them together with foreign countries. Little did they know, China can progress so much in such a short amount of time.

Independence for Tibet is impossible and Tibetans had missed the best time for them to fight the Chinese when they are still weak. Instead of working on their goal, they created a lot of problems for everyone around them including their own poeple.