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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yeshe on March 13, 2010, 03:23:19 PM
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Hi.
A few years ago it was possible to buy a silver or brass pendant from NKT shops. In fatc they had 2 types - the Vajrayogini mantra rosary and the Dorje Shugden type. They were coin shaped and around an inch (2.5 cms) in diameter.
The Dorje Shugden one had a banner with his mantra on it and a vajra.
I've tried web searches but can't find a Dorje Shugden pendant/amulet anywhere.
Does anyone know where I may source one please?
Thanks. :)
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Hi Yeshe,
You may be interested in this. I got a friend to custom-make this for me. Its made specially to order so it takes a while, about a month or so to complete. It is pure silver and very well made. If you'd like to find out more, drop me a message.
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Hi.
A few years ago it was possible to buy a silver or brass pendant from NKT shops. In fatc they had 2 types - the Vajrayogini mantra rosary and the Dorje Shugden type. They were coin shaped and around an inch (2.5 cms) in diameter.
The Dorje Shugden one had a banner with his mantra on it and a vajra.
I've tried web searches but can't find a Dorje Shugden pendant/amulet anywhere.
Does anyone know where I may source one please?
Thanks
OMG Wow! This Dorje Shugden pendant is really really nice!
Can you please let us know how much this cost?? I would really like to get one :)
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Fantastic Dorje Shugden pendant!!!And it is pure silver which should be quite affordable for many ppl.
I would like to get around 8 pieces to give away to friends and of course get one for myself.
Very nice....can you give us more details, price etc? I want to order.
Do Start a new thread on this if you don't mind, it is wonderful.
Thank you for sharing.
TK
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DSnowlion:
Prices will vary as shipping charges change depending on your location in relation to the maker's location. If you're serious about getting one, send me a private message with details of where you would like the item to be delivered.
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I bought a few pendants recently from an online store called Kechara eshop. They have a range of designs with various deities. You can check them out at http://www.kechara.com/eshop/
I got some of their new designs with precious stones. They also have more plain looking ones (silver, alloy, white gold etc) for daily wear. I don't see any Dorje Shugden pendants, but may be you can ask them.
Their prices are very affordable, plains ones around USD80+ and stones ones are about USD100- USD150. The workmanship & quality is very good, perhaps it's because the shop is under a lama - Tsem Tulku's organisation. I got to know about the shop from his Youtubes teachings.
Anyway, these are the ones that I bought.
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I bought a few pendants recently from an online store called Kechara eshop. They have a range of designs with various deities. You can check them out at [url]http://www.kechara.com/eshop/[/url]
I got some of their new designs with precious stones. They also have more plain looking ones (silver, alloy, white gold etc) for daily wear. I don't see any Dorje Shugden pendants, but may be you can ask them.
Their prices are very affordable, plains ones around USD50+ and stones ones are about USD100- USD150. The workmanship & quality is very good, perhaps it's because the shop is under a lama - Tsem Tulku's organisation. I got to know about the shop from his Youtubes teachings.
Anyway, these are the ones that I bought.
Oh that's very affordable! Thank you for the price details. They are absolutely FABULOUS!!! I've taken a quick look at the e-shop u mentioned. Wow they've got loads of stuff there. And the Vajrayogini fabulous pendant is only USD168!!! Heya thank you for introducing to us this e-shop!
X
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Very well crafted pendants. It is a once in a lifetime gift for special ppl in my life.
Thanks for posting. I am going to order from this link. I love the Vajra Yogini pendants. Stunning quality! Dharma 'jewellery' has gone many levels up.
TK
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Me too!
I love the Vajrayoginni and Je T'song Khapa!
Such a delight!
Makes my cheeks rosy,
Everytime I remember,
Dorje Shugden
tc
ps does anyone know where the Dorje Shugden Music might be found?
I had some tapes from Taiwan or someplace that were very,very nice
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Wow.. Thanks for all the replies. Wonderful! :)
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Yeshe, thanks for asking and Duldzin, thanks for providing the fantastic solutions!
The pendants are beautiful, especially the rare Dorje Shugden ones. I love the Snow Lion: really detailed and beautiful. I showed the images to some friends who are not familiar with Buddhadharma and they were very impressed and attracted to the design. In fact, many accepted when I offered the pendants to them as gifts...so now, I definitely have to make orders with you Duldzin :)
Actually, offering these affordable pendants as gifts to family and friends could be a good way to spread the Dharma too. How exciting it is to have so many ways of touching the people we care about with the Dharma!
Thanks again for this posting and happy shopping everyone!
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Check out this incredibly beautiful statue of Vajrayoginni in Tsem Tulku personal shrine:
http://www.tsemtulku.com/en/teachings/contemplations/my-personal-statue-of-sacred-vajrayogini/menu-id-15.html
I would never leave my home if I had this on my shrine!...............wow!
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Check out this incredibly beautiful statue of Vajrayoginni in Tsem Tulku personal shrine:
[url]http://www.tsemtulku.com/en/teachings/contemplations/my-personal-statue-of-sacred-vajrayogini/menu-id-15.html[/url]
I would never leave my home if I had this on my shrine!...............wow!
I love that photo - captures Vajrayogini's stunning features so well... Tsem Tulku must be a great practitioner for the statue to have such a radiant glow..
Anyway, i was surfing around and found this
http://vajrasecrets.com/statue/higher-tantras.html
the statues are not so big which suits me fine since i only stay in a teeny bedsit...
This 6" antique flying Vajrayogini is way cool..
http://vajrasecrets.com/statue/higher-tantras/antique-flying-vajrayogini-statue-6.html
I still love Tsem Tulku's Vajrayogini but these statues are pretty nice too...
anyway, i'll dream on.. :P
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Thanks for the links :)
Are those prices $US? Some of those statues are very expensive.
http://vajrasecrets.com/statue/higher-tantras/brass-vajrayogini-statue-with-antique-finishing-17.html
This Lovely Vajrayogini is the same as ones we get for our shop, I can't believe that that is $US they are charging for this?
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Thanks for the links :)
Are those prices $US? Some of those statues are very expensive.
[url]http://vajrasecrets.com/statue/higher-tantras/brass-vajrayogini-statue-with-antique-finishing-17.html[/url]
This Lovely Vajrayogini is the same as ones we get for our shop, I can't believe that that is $US they are charging for this?
Well, you wrote what I was thinking. The Tsem Tulku products all seem to be VERY expensive in comparison with similar products eslewhere.
For statues etc. I have used : himalayanmart.com
The stock is huge so you need to patiently explore.
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I don't think the prices are expensive. The quality is beautiful and the profits all go to creating the Retreat Centre they are planning. I have written to them. So I don't think of this as a secular shopping but as a way to donate and also get a gift in return. I have donated to dharma centres quietly in this way all around the world for many years. Also their dharma centre do not charge for teachings, courses, retreats and activities.
Read up if you like: www.kechara.com.
All dharma centres need to survive. So if you like their work, it is your way to contribute and help and rejoice. If you find the products too expensive, then don't buy and donate directly instead. That is what I always do.
TK
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Fair enough if the profits go to creating Dharma centres and retreat centres. I guess it's relative, maybe people are more wealthy in Malasia and the cost of living is higher. ;) We sell those lovely VY for about £100.
The Setrap Tsa tsa's are amazingly beautiful. :) It would be nice if we could find a artisan who could make Dorje Shugden tsa tsa's to that quality.
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I bought a few pendants recently from an online store called Kechara eshop. They have a range of designs with various deities. You can check them out at [url]http://www.kechara.com/eshop/[/url]
I got some of their new designs with precious stones. They also have more plain looking ones (silver, alloy, white gold etc) for daily wear. I don't see any Dorje Shugden pendants, but may be you can ask them.
Their prices are very affordable, plains ones around USD80+ and stones ones are about USD100- USD150. The workmanship & quality is very good, perhaps it's because the shop is under a lama - Tsem Tulku's organisation. I got to know about the shop from his Youtubes teachings.
Anyway, these are the ones that I bought.
I also enquired more about these pendants and found out that they are designed and made by the Dharma organisation themselves - they source their own suppliers and design each pendant themselves. They seem to even have a whole department dedicated to this. They make pendants and buddha statues also. I think an important part of the process for them is to ensure that the symbology and detail is accurate and correct - so this is an added plus as there are many buddha images out there which are not really correct, although they are aesthetically beautiful. I think it's worth paying for - anyway, we can think of it is as a wonderful offering to our Buddha images, altar and practice, something to save up for, rather than to just buy a new flat screen TV or whatever it is ;) I like what TK said also about it supporting a Dharma centre and their Dharma work. It is nice to see how people are making their centres grow by also providing a service to other practitioners around the world.
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Yes I've checked out this site and read their objectives. They are student Tsem Tulku Rinpoche and their motivation is to help support their centre project. Checked out their kechara.com too and their starting to build a world peace retreat centre. So I guess it's not really like normal shopping, it's like you donate towards a good cause and get to choose the Buddha you like to invite home.
I also know that it's a big no no to make profits in body, speech and mind items, and I've heard this Rinpoche's teaching and he is very adamant about not to do that.
Besides the quality and workmanship of their items are very detailed, some are one of kind hand crafted pieces from famous Nepalese artisan, who is no longer around. I'm sure you can't really get the exact same quality from just anywhere. Anyways, these are Buddha statues and like what honeydakini said, it's like offerings to the Buddhas when invite (I would't say buy) one home.
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Yes I've checked out this site and read their objectives. They are student Tsem Tulku Rinpoche and their motivation is to help support their centre project. Checked out their kechara.com too and their starting to build a world peace retreat centre. So I guess it's not really like normal shopping, it's like you donate towards a good cause and get to choose the Buddha you like to invite home.
I also know that it's a big no no to make profits in body, speech and mind items, and I've heard this Rinpoche's teaching and he is very adamant about not to do that.
Besides the quality and workmanship of their items are very detailed, some are one of kind hand crafted pieces from famous Nepalese artisan, who is no longer around. I'm sure you can't really get the exact same quality from just anywhere. Anyways, these are Buddha statues and like what honeydakini said, it's like offerings to the Buddhas when invite (I would't say buy) one home.
Yes, my OP was addressing purchasing and this is really making a donation, a small amount of which is actually attributable to the cost of the item.
Such items are actually quite readily available and the cost, donation or otherwise, places tham waaaay beyond my budget. One could fly to Nepal and buy the good directly for less money, but I do take on board that the intention is different.
My OP was about Dorje Shugden pendants, which Tsem Tulku seems not to have for sale...;)
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No I don't think Tsem Tulku's sites have any Dorje Shugden pendants.
But I am sure if you are really keen you can ask around a few of your friends to see if they want to order together with you and perhaps, I don't know, maybe if you order more you could request for a better rate? Email Duldzin and see ... ;)
Wonder if there is any other designs of Dorje Shugden pendants available?
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No I don't think Tsem Tulku's sites have any Dorje Shugden pendants.
But I am sure if you are really keen you can ask around a few of your friends to see if they want to order together with you and perhaps, I don't know, maybe if you order more you could request for a better rate? Email Duldzin and see ... ;)
Wonder if there is any other designs of Dorje Shugden pendants available?
Yes, Mohani has some and has pics on his website:
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=452.15
The silver DS mantra pendants are great, and the tsa tsas can also be used as a large pendant . ;)
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Buying Buddha images is guilt-free shopping and indulgence ;)
One thing I noticed most about the Buddha images on Kechara's website is the good proportioning of the images. I understanding that getting the proportions perfect (in any sculpture) is the hardest task. Sometimes, it requires many remoulding, a lot of work by the artist etc. Maybe this effort for perfection contributed the higher price in dollar sense. However, whether an item is expensive or cheap depends a lot on value. In addition to obtaining a beautiful Buddha image, buying from Kechara contributes directly to their World Peace Centre projects, which sounds very sustainable and brings Dharma learning to a different level.
Other than a Vajrayogini sculpture image, Kechara also offers a book on Vajrayogini, titled "Vajrayogini and Other Sacred Power Places in Nepal": . The publication of Kechara is pretty professional and top quality, I got a few books from Kechara before and their products are pretty professional and top quality. May be worth contemplating!
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Buying Buddha images is guilt-free shopping and indulgence ;)
One thing I noticed most about the Buddha images on Kechara's website is the good proportioning of the images. I understanding that getting the proportions perfect (in any sculpture) is the hardest task. Sometimes, it requires many remoulding, a lot of work by the artist etc. Maybe this effort for perfection contributed the higher price in dollar sense. However, whether an item is expensive or cheap depends a lot on value. In addition to obtaining a beautiful Buddha image, buying from Kechara contributes directly to their World Peace Centre projects, which sounds very sustainable and brings Dharma learning to a different level.
Other than a Vajrayogini sculpture image, Kechara also offers a book on Vajrayogini, titled "Vajrayogini and Other Sacred Power Places in Nepal": . The publication of Kechara is pretty professional and top quality, I got a few books from Kechara before and their products are pretty professional and top quality. May be worth contemplating!
The book looks interesting, but the title is weird. Vajrayogini is not a place.
I have a few books on HYT and Vajrayogini/Heruka practice, but I've never heard of this one. Is it on Amazon?
The quality of a statue or tsa tsa is not supposed to be a matter for us to consider, as it is the deity rather than the image which we consider sacred. However, like many, certain images 'speak' to me and I tend to buy accurate piece which I also like. And, as you suggest, this is rarely inexpensive, and we now know that the Tsem Tulku ones have a large component of dana in the price as well, so it's not really an issue.
I have two Vajrapani statues. The first one sent was not accurate in its detail and different from the picture the manufacturer provided. I was sent another (paid only shipping). For me it is important that the statue has the details of the deity corretly portrayed.
There are written descriptions of deites and if a statue lacks the components of the description it may as well be a statue of my uncle. Or I could simply pick up a rock and visualise it all. LOL :)
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I have the Vajrayogini book that you mentioned and I think you have to get it directly from Kechara Media & Publications. It is full of pictures from the various Vajrayogini power places in the Kathmandu valley- Snagkhu, Patan, Vijawari, and Pharping.
The pictures are just stunning.
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The book includes a commentary on the various Vajrayogini pilgrimage sites in Nepal.
Tsem Tulku has a video about the same pilgrimage too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hoynvDjQeA
And a couple of posts on his personal blog http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/03/puja-at-naropas-cave-kathmandu-nepal.html
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I also got the much talked-about Vajrayogini book by Tsem Tulku's organization, it has many previous Vajrayogini statues pictures in Nepal that were never published before, amazing how they got the pictures!
Can get from their website
http://vajrasecrets.com/books/english-books/vajrayogini-and-other-sacred-power-places-in-nepal.html
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Dear Namdrol,
Thanks for posting the cover of this beautiful high quality looking book. I have ordered over 30 copies already and it arrived completely safe. I will order more. Great holiday/birthday gifts.
I have donated it to some places of worship and presented as gifts to many friends. My friends absolutely loved the book and were amazed at the rare pictures that were never taken before.
One friend returned from Kathmandu, Nepal and saw it was sold at a major bookstore there I think called Pilgrims. He also said that the Nepalese shop owners, hotel owners and Bookstore owner all loved the book. They had never seen such a beautiful book about Vajra Yogini they all worship and respect in the four main temples to VajraYogini in Kathmandu.
Please see:
http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/03/vajra-yoginis-book-has-been-tranlated-into-chinese.html
and
http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/04/kmps-young-writers-blossoming-getting-bigger.html
I found out that all book profits from this organization of Tsem Tulku Rinpoche's goes completely to the support of their many dharma works and they will be embarking on building a Kechara World Peace Centre in Malaysia. It will have healing, flower arranging, vegetarian cooking, Philosophy classes, Chi quong, Yoga, and many more alternative education. Very incredible project.
See this blog I came across: http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/03/kechara-world-peace-centre-or-kwpc.html.
Many of their full time heads in their organization as well as their publications CEO work for free as an offering to Tsem Rinpoche!!!! Such devotion.
Also read this interesting blog post:[ http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/03/ceo-of-kmp.html
And regarding the Dept in Tsem Tulku Rinpoche's organization (kechara) that produced the Vajra Yogini book:
http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/03/kmp-group-is-specialdr-lanse-is-special.html
TK
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Dear tk, thank you for posting the links to Tsem Tulku Rinpoche's blog.
It is a MUST VISIT!!!!
The blog on Kechara World Peace Center is very inspiring, very sustainable and extremely empowering! It looks like Tsem Rinpoche intends to institutionalize Dharma learning beyond the scope of religion only. With the range of learning opportunities KWPC plans to offer, visitors get a chance to become professional Dharma scholars. Very powerful because that is what Je Tsongkapa developed in Tibet centuries before. We and our future generations will be so fortunate if we get the chance to learn Dharma as a way of living.
Coupled with the CEO Team supporting Kechara House (wow, what a vast array of background of quality people!), all Tsem Rinpcoche's vision will become a reality soon. I wish for all the students and CEOs of Tsem Rinpoche to have a smooth and swift journey in executing all His Eminence's visions. May all outer, inner and secret obstacles be eliminated. Although Kechara does not seem to practice our Great Protector, I humbly take the liberty to pray that our Protector will bless this group of wonderful and dedicated Dharma upholders in their projects to have Dharma flourish to benefit the world.
Besides rejoicing, may I suggest that we find tangible ways to contribute to this cause...maybe contact them on their website!
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Thanks to all those who provided me with links re. Dorje Shugden pendants. I now have two excellent contacts. :)
As this thread is now waaaaaay off topic, maybe it should be split re. Tsem Tulku's commercial and dharma projects?
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Here is a link to Tsem Tulku's blog where he just posted some information about the pendants that he has designed. This is amazing that he himself designed these beautiful pendants.
http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/04/hey-everyone-i-am-a-designer-move-over-versace-and-lv.html (http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/04/hey-everyone-i-am-a-designer-move-over-versace-and-lv.html)
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Here is a link to Tsem Tulku's blog where he just posted some information about the pendants that he has designed. This is amazing that he himself designed these beautiful pendants.
[url]http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/04/hey-everyone-i-am-a-designer-move-over-versace-and-lv.html[/url] ([url]http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/2010/04/hey-everyone-i-am-a-designer-move-over-versace-and-lv.html[/url])
Thanks for the link, Tenzin Sungrab... this Rinpoche is quite a riot, don't you think?! I loved the picture of him in the t-shirt!! He is truly fearless, full of humour and so passionate about the Dharma. And needless to say, so talented as a designer!!! A true Renaissance Rinpoche! May we all be like him.
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Much as i like Tsem Tulku as a teacher, none of this thread is now about Dorje Shugden pendants.
Is someone would like to split the thread and keep the two issues separate that would be great.
In the meantime, I seem to have been given the ability to lock this one, so I'll do that now as the OP answers dried up ages ago.
Thanks. :)