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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: phyag na rlangs pa on October 22, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
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Distinguished Tibetan Buddhist Lama Zasep Tulku Rinpoche’s “A Tulku’s Journey from Tibet to Canada” has been reviewed as: a must read for students; a should read for Buddhists. In addition, it also debunks the malicious lies spread against the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden, whose practice has been banned by the Dalai Lama and Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) since 1996.
I’ll sum up as I began: Zasep Tulku Rinpoche’s "A Tulku’s Journey from Tibet to Canada" is equal parts autobiography, spiritual epic journey, gripping adventure narrative, inspiring Buddhist life example, and a travelogue spanning nine countries.
Of course this is a must read for Zasep Rinpoche’s students, or anyone contemplating asking to become his student. It is also a “should read” for anyone interested in Tibetan Buddhism. It’s also a good read for anyone who enjoys biographies, since it contains all of the elements of a great spiritual bio: adventure, a fascinating life, spiritual insights, and a glimpse into the lives of a once-hidden people in the land of snows.
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Rinpoche truly brings Tibet alive in an intimate and honest way. While his love of his teachers, Buddhism, Tibet and his people is palpable and constant, he doesn’t portray Tibet as a “Shangri-La”, and he doesn’t hesitate to describe both the good and bad.
In his book, he openly declares in many parts of the book that "the Gyalchen Dorje Shugden practice is very close to (his) heart.” This is understandable as the practice of Dorje Shugden was widely accepted not only by the majority of the Gelugpa but also by the Sakya and Kagyu and Nyingma lineages. It is important to remember that Dorje Shugden was the protector practice that Kyabje Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo and Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang trusted and therefore it only makes sense that most Gelugpa practitioners would hold this deity close to their hearts as well. Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo and Trijang Dorje Chang were the two teachers who taught literally all of the Gelugpa monks and scholars of their time and it would only be natural that they would also give their students the Dorje Shugden practice that they trusted.
Zasep Tulku Rinpoche also expresses how important it is for monasteries and Dharma centres to support each other and not be divided by those who would seek to conquer and rule for political reasons. Zasep Tulku Rinpoche is skilful in saying that the Tibetan leadership has been dividing the various Tibetan Buddhist lineages and that all lineages and monasteries should be smart and not allow that to happen.
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A practitioner from young and a student of highly attained Dorje Shugden practitioners.
Zasep Tulku Rinpoche has been practicing Dorje Shugden since he was a mere 9 years of age, and it was a family practice. His father's teacher, Lama Gelong Chojor Gyamtso was an oracle for the Dharma Protector Gyalchen Dorje Shugden who could go into trance spontaneously and was renowned in the eastern province of Kham, Tibet, where Zasep Rinpoche's family lived. Lama Gelong Chojor Gyamtso had helped many people, as a healer and with divination. As Zasep Rinpoche says in his book, "he was very good at prediction and gave many people good advice on their spiritual practice."
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It was also the premonition of Lama Gelong Chojor Gyamtso in trance of Dorje Shugden that saved the life of the young Zasep Rinpoche prior to the Chinese PLA invasion of Kham in 1957.
Zasep Tulku Rinpoche also recounts how Lama Gelong Chojor Gyamtso was one of three kind teachers who made a great impression on him, and how they encouraged him to stay on the path of Dharma. The famous Dorje Shugden oracle from Kham was also a devoted Vajrayogini practitioner, and before his passing, had a vision of a staircase made of turquoise stretching from his window to the sky. This is seen as a sign that Vajrayogini was calling him to her Pure Land. This is an important revelation because it directly counters the Tibetan leadership's accusation that Dorje Shugden is a demonic practice. According to the tenets of Buddhism, demon worshippers will take rebirth in the lower realms. Therefore, isn't it illogical to say that the oracle of Dorje Shugden was a demon worshipper when all the signs point to him ascending to Vajrayogini's pure land? .
Zasep Tulku Rinpoche came under the tutelage of the great Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang (the tutor of His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama), Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Kyabje Guru Deva Rinpoche. He received his first Dorje Shugden Life Entrustment — Sogtae — from Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang when he was 17 years old while studying for his Acharya degree at the Central Institute for Higher Tibetan Studies in Varanasi, India.
Later on, Zasep Tulku Rinpoche would again receive Dorje Shugden Sogtae for the second time, from Kyabje Zong Rinpoche.
According to Zasep Tulku Rinpoche (as well), it was Dorje Shugden through trance of the Panglung oracle, not Nechung, who saved the Dalai Lama from China’s invasion in 1959.
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This account of how Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang sought the advice of Dorje Shugden is highly significant as Zasep Tulku Rinpoche clearly states that it was through trance of the Panglung oracle (Kuten Lama) that the Dharma Protector Gyalchen Dorje Shugden gave precise instructions for the Dalai Lama to make his exit from Tibet and the route they should take that will keep him safe.
Zasep Tulku Rinpoche is very clear in his biography on the details of the Dalai Lama’s famous journey out of Tibet, how the Dalai Lama “put his trust in Gyalchen Dorje Shugden’s prediction,” including their stopovers and thanksgiving Serkyem tea offering by Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang. This is not the first time there is evidence that it was Dorje Shugden who helped the Dalai Lama escape from Tibet in 1959. There were also similar accounts from Sera monks who made the journey from Tibet to India together with the Dalai Lama and saw with their own eyes how Dorje Shugden saved the Dalai Lama.
An account of the Flight of the Dalai Lama by Chagzoe Lobsang Yeshe
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Excerpt from Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang's Autobiography
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The formation of the Chushi Gangdruk regiment
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Yet despite the overwhelming evidence that it was Dorje Shugden who saved His Holiness the Dalai Lama during the flight from Tibet, until today the official website of the Dalai Lama claims it was Nechung who saved him. The truth is that Nechung gave wrong advice - he said that the Dalai Lama should remain in Tibet and that no harm would come to him. Fortunately, the Dalai Lama, Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang and the Dalai Lama's key advisors at the time had the wisdom and foresight to put their trust in Dorje Shugden instead of Nechung. But, instead of showing gratitude, the Tibetan leadership today has turned on Dorje Shugden who saved the Dalai Lama.
Eyewitness account that the Sakya propitiated Shugden.
Zasep Rinpoche also tells of his time at Sakya Monastery, where he saw the shrine of Sakya Mugchung, one of the Dharma Protectors of the Sakya tradition. Zasep Rinpoche clearly explains the connection between the Dharma Protector Sakya Mugchung and Dorje Shugden, and how Sakya lineage masters recognised his enlightened qualities. In fact, Dorje Shugden was one of the 3 Sakya Protectors known as Gyalpo Sum, with the other two being Setrab Chen and Tsiu Marpo. Gyalpo Sum including Dorje Shugden played a vital role in the Sakya lineage but the Sakyas were forced to denounce their own protector because of politics. Same disloyalty like the Tibetan leaders who banned Dorje Shugden.
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In his biography, Zasep Rinpoche also acknowledges that the Shugden controversy was orchestrated by the Central Tibetan Administration to deflect attention from their incompetence. This makes sense when anyone applies simple logic. Dorje Shugden has been practiced for nearly four centuries by the highest lamas including the present Dalai Lama who wrote a praise to the deity. So how come the deity only became "bad" in 1996? Because by then the CTA needed a scapegoat to deflect attention away from their numerous failures such as their failure to fulfil their promise to return the Tibetans to their homeland. The failure in regaining their homeland was not the doing of Dorje Shugden but a result of the ineptitude and corruption within the Tibetan leadership. Now, yet another respectable lama like Zasep Tulku Rinpoche confirms that.
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Zasep Tulku Rinpoche is to be applauded for not mincing his words, for having the courage to call it as it is, that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is fully at fault for the schism in the Gelug school that spilled over to divide Tibetan Buddhists around the world.
Further on, he describes how in the early refugee camps, before the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA)'s cruel scheme to divide Tibetan Buddhist schools, all Tibetans were united, practising their own protectors and deities harmoniously.
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More teachings, transmissions and lineages held by Zasep Tulku Rinpoche:
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Is Zasep Tulku Rinpoche a fake tulku? A Chinese spy? Let’s take a look...
Born on 1st July 1948 in the eastern province of Kham, Tibet, His Eminence Zasep Tulku Rinpoche was recognised as the 13th incarnation of Lama Konchog Tenzin of Zuru Monastery by three most venerated lamas: the 16th Karmapa, Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang (the Junior Tutor to the present Dalai Lama), and a highly realised Nyingma Lama. He was installed at Zuru Monastary, at the tender age of five. Later he was again enthroned at Sera Monastery where he began his studies.
The young Zasep Tulku took the eight precepts and robes from Gelug Lama Gelong Chojor Gyamtso. Chojor Gyamtso was a mahasiddha who was a disciple of the incomparable Kyabje Pabongkha Dechen Nyingpo.
When the Chinese invaded Tibet in 1959 Zasep Rinpoche escaped to Dalhousie in India. Under the advice of Trijang Rinpoche, Zasep Rinpoche resumed his studies under the personal tutorship of Venerable Geshe Thupten Wangyel, a highly realised yogi in Dalhousie, India. He also studied with and received empowerments from many renowned Gelug and Kagyu teachers in Tibet, including some of the legendary lamas of Tibet such as: Yongzin Trijang Rinpoche, His Holiness Kyabje Ling Rinpoche, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, Venerable Lati Rinpoche, Venerable Tara Tulku Rinpoche and Venerable Khalkha Jetsun Dampa Rinpoche.
Today, Zasep Tulku Rinpoche is not only an internationally respected teacher of Gelugpa Buddhism, but also the spiritual director for many retreat centres across the world, in Canada, Australia, and the United States.
In addition, Rinpoche is also the founder of Gaden for the West, an international organization created for the express purpose of bringing, interpreting, and integrating Gelugpa Tibetan Buddhism to the western world. His organisation is also involved with several charitable relief projects in Tibet, Mongolia and India through Gaden Relief.
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This is definitely a welcomed publication since we don’t see a lot of high lama speaking up on the truth about Dorje Shugden. Interesting how Zasep Tulku Rinpoche’s account of HHDL’s escape to Tibet collaborates the fact of Dorje Shugden’s primary involvement in ensuring the safety of HHDL then.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/)
On a separate note, Zasep Tulku Rinpoche’s illustrious background is also captured in http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/zasep-jamseng-rinpoche/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/zasep-jamseng-rinpoche/)
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Distinguished Tibetan Buddhist Lama Zasep Tulku Rinpoche’s “A Tulku’s Journey from Tibet to Canada” has been reviewed as: a must read for students; a should read for Buddhists
The Shugden controversy was orchestrated by the Central Tibetan Administration to deflect attention from their incompetence.
(https://image.ibb.co/dN1K0f/Zasep-Tulku-Rinpoche-Bio-Excerpt-7.jpg)
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Zasep Tulku Rinpoche is to be applauded for not mincing his words, for having the courage to call it as it is, that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is fully at fault for the schism in the Gelug school that spilled over to divide Tibetan Buddhists around the world.
Further on, he describes how in the early refugee camps, before the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA)'s cruel scheme to divide Tibetan Buddhist schools, all Tibetans were united, practising their own protectors and deities harmoniously.
(https://image.ibb.co/cKk1D0/Zasep-Tulku-Rinpoche-Bio-Excerpt-6.jpg)
Is Zasep Tulke Rinpoche a fake tulku? A Chinese spy? or a CCP dog? Let’s take a look...
Well, if he's not, he will be called one soon 8) Everyone is a Chinese spy :-[
Zasep Tulku is among the senior (elder in age) lamas, very respected because they are the Rinpoches/lamas who come from old Tibet, students of Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang, compared to the younger generations of Tulkus born outside Tibet. I'm surprised he mentioned about Dorje Shugden and also shared his personal stories.
Very encouraging and hope many more lamas would make a stand about Dorje Shugden practice.
The part about Shugden controversy orchestrated by the Central Tibetan Administration to deflect attention from their incompetence, he's got my respect for saying this in his own autobiography!
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It is extremely encouraging that Zasep Rinpoche has come out with this biography and within it, the practice of Dorje Shugden is mentioned. It is evident that the practice of Dorje Shugden was very prominent prior to the ban, it's not just a 'minor' practice like how the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) likes to claim.
The CTA likes to mislead people into thinking that the act of practicing Dorje Shugden or talking about the practice is going against His Holiness the Dalai Lama. What they don't understand is, that's the last thing Dorje Shugden practitioners actually want. Shugden practitioners get nothing but threats and hatred by continuing with the practice, if the motivation is not considered pure, then I don't know what is.
People need to understand that originally, the practice of Dorje Shugden has nothing to do with HHDL and even now, HHDL should not get involved by telling people to stop the practice and by banning it further. In actuality, no one has the authority to stop our practice except for our gurus/teachers whom we receive the practice from.
This book by Zasep Rinpoche is extremely encouraging, I hope that Zasep Rinpoche will continue to spread the practice of Gyalchen Dorje Shugden to more sentient beings to benefit them :D
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Amazing! The very protector who saved the Dalai Lama's life is none other than Dorje Shugden. But instead of being grateful to Dorje Shugden, Dalai Lama banned Dorje Shugden, trying to make Dorje Shugden's lineage disappear altogether in this world. What do you think of such person?
Yet, Dorje Shugden has never once become angry about that, despite being criticized by the person He saved, Dorje Shugden always advised everyone to respect the Dalai Lama. This is a real selfless Bodhisattva, we will not be wrong by relying on Him.
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA
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Zasep Rinpoche has now corroborated what others such as Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche has said all along, that it was Dorje Shugden through the Panglung Oracle which advised His Holiness Dalai Lama's escape to India.
https://youtu.be/mV4VAQgt4Bs (https://youtu.be/mV4VAQgt4Bs)
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Official testimony by Lobsang Yeshe
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Helmut Gassner is a long-term Western Buddhist monk, scholars and practitioner, and he was the interpreter (and chauffeur) for the Dalai Lama for 17 years.
Here is part of his speech at the Friedrich-Naumann-Foundation Hamburg, on March 26th 1999, which also corroborates the above.
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What Zasep Rinpoche wrote in his autobiography is quite a big news for Shugden practitioners, but what I find it quite strange is that, this book was published 2016 (about 2 years ago), but nobody seems to pick it up?
Clearly what Zasep Rinpoche said about Shugden helped Dalai Lama (and not Nechung) is coincide with what DorjeShugden.com published (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/)) but no one has picked the content of his autobiography and show the content to the world, especially the Shugden community? This is strange, but nonetheless, it is good to know Zasep Rinpoche open accepts Shugden practice and acknowledged this practice is good.
I just wish that more Shugden people can know about this. Rejoice!
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Distinguished Tibetan Buddhist Lama Zasep Tulku Rinpoche’s “A Tulku’s Journey from Tibet to Canada” has been reviewed as: a must read for students; a should read for Buddhists
The Shugden controversy was orchestrated by the Central Tibetan Administration to deflect attention from their incompetence.
(https://image.ibb.co/dN1K0f/Zasep-Tulku-Rinpoche-Bio-Excerpt-7.jpg)
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Zasep Tulku Rinpoche is to be applauded for not mincing his words, for having the courage to call it as it is, that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is fully at fault for the schism in the Gelug school that spilled over to divide Tibetan Buddhists around the world.
Further on, he describes how in the early refugee camps, before the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA)'s cruel scheme to divide Tibetan Buddhist schools, all Tibetans were united, practising their own protectors and deities harmoniously.
(https://image.ibb.co/cKk1D0/Zasep-Tulku-Rinpoche-Bio-Excerpt-6.jpg)
Is Zasep Tulke Rinpoche a fake tulku? A Chinese spy? or a CCP dog? Let’s take a look...
Well, if he's not, he will be called one soon 8) Everyone is a Chinese spy :-[
Zasep Tulku is among the senior (elder in age) lamas, very respected because they are the Rinpoches/lamas who come from old Tibet, students of Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang, compared to the younger generations of Tulkus born outside Tibet. I'm surprised he mentioned about Dorje Shugden and also shared his personal stories.
Very encouraging and hope many more lamas would make a stand about Dorje Shugden practice.
The part about Shugden controversy orchestrated by the Central Tibetan Administration to deflect attention from their incompetence, he's got my respect for saying this in his own autobiography!
I do agree with you and I must admire Zasep Tulku Rinpoche's courage and forthrightness in stating that CTA used the ban on Dorje Shugden as a deflection from their incompetence. I do hope that this is an encouragement for other DS Lamas to stand up for their rights of practice. United they would be a formidable team to bring done the ban once and for all. Especially now when the Dalai Lama is so desperately wishing to return to Tibet.
Well, Zasep Tulku Rinpoche sure put paid to the truth of who really saved the Dalai Lama. Such ungratefulness to actually write Dorje Shugden out of the truth. Nechung had wanted the Dalai Lama to stay in Tibet and most probably would had been tortured greatly if not death. Sad thing is now the Dalai Lama has to rely on the DS Lamas and practitioner to bring him back to Tibet as CTA is certainly not going to.
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What a great find. Zasep Rinpoche is great lama that has benefitted many. His intention is only for the Dharma and never for politics. What he had said and written are trustable.
The Tibetan leadership CTA is out to take advantage of the Tibetan cause for their own self benefits. Their actions are destroying Tibetan Buddhism by planting falsehood and doubt on anyone who didn't toe their line.
With this book we have factual evidences Dorje Shugden from a high lama that countered the all misinformation from CTA propaganda.
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Zasep Rinpoche is a great lama, and very attained, he also spent some time attending the Theravadan tradition as part of this learning process.
It is truly not something most lamas, would want to say the truth about the Dorje Shugden practice, and why it was started by the CTA. CTA wanted to control the lamas and Tibetans, for that they had to dismantle the Gelug order which happens to the biggest component practiced amongst all Tibetan people. Some of Zasep Rinpoche's picture when younger, he looked almost like a Japanese Zen master.
This book, yet another proof that the Dorje Shugden ban was orchestrated to hide the failures of the Tibetan government in exile, not for any altruistic motive, but just to keep them valid and being able to function continuously and when they are in government they can siphon off more funds meant for the Tibetan people.
People of the world, know that the Tibetan government in exile is no friend of Tibet, they only want to use this vehicle to milk money from Western Powers and people who are willing to support a Shangri-la that does not exist anymore at least not within the confines of the Tibetan diaspora in India.
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It is amazing how Zasep Rinpoche's writing on His Holiness Dalai Lama's escape to Tibet is very similar to Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche's writing about the event in his biography. Seem like both lamas are telling the truth and it is not like what Central Tibetan Administration told us about the escape. CTA told us that it was Nechung who advised His Holiness the Dalai Lama to leave Tibet immediately but in fact, it was Dorje Shugden.
It was Dorje Shugden who gave clear and precise instruction for His Holiness's escape and saved His Holiness's life. Instead of being grateful to Dorje Shugden, now CTA turned around and accused Dorje Shugden of harming the Dalai Lama's life. They have no gratitude at all and this shows us their true nature. Just like how they are treating India. After so many years of taking free land, assistance and resources from India, they did not give anything back to India other than a few cheapskates Thank you India events.
When holy beings like Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and Zasep Rinpoche wrote about Dalai Lama's escape from Tibet into India, we should trust them because they have no benefit if they had lied about the truth. On the other hand, CTA has all the reasons to lie about it and they are a bunch of selfish politicians that could not care less about the Tibetans in exile. Everyone should think logically about the ban and not just accept whatever that CTA told them.
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Clearly what Zasep Rinpoche said about Shugden helped Dalai Lama (and not Nechung) is coincide with what DorjeShugden.com published ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/[/url])) but no one has picked the content of his autobiography and show the content to the world, especially the Shugden community? This is strange, but nonetheless, it is good to know Zasep Rinpoche open accepts Shugden practice and acknowledged this practice is good.
What's most important is that there is now even more unassailable proof that it was Dorje Shugden and not Nechung who saved the Dalai Lama's life and ensured his safe escape into exile. For decades the Central Tibetan Administration under their puppet leader Lobsang Sangay have tried to throw the blame for the failure of the Tibetan cause at the feet of Dorje Shugden. But in truth, Dorje Shugden was just a scapegoat and it was the Tibetan leaders themselves who are to blame for the plight of the Tibetan people.
Now their web of lies is unravelling as lamas such as Zasep Rinpoche tell the truth of what really happened during the Dalai Lama's flight from Tibet. Those whom the CTA would paint as villains are the real heroes of the story:
Dorje Shugden - who gave the exact escape route, time of departure, and performed miracles along the way to ensure the Dalai Lama' safety
Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche - who oversaw the entire process of getting advice from Dorje Shugden via the Panglung Oracle
The Panglung Oracle - who devoted his life to serving the Tibetan nation and Tibetan Buddhism
Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche - who personally trained the Panglung Oracle and also recommended the practice of Dorje Shugden to all
The monks of Pomra Khamtsen (now Serpom Monastery) - who risked their lives accompanying the Dalai Lama into exile, serving him as bodyguards
and so on.
Clearly, Dorje Shugden and his practitioners are almost single-handedly responsible for the fact that the Dalai Lama is alive and well and safe in exile today. Those who are attacking Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden practitioners under the mistaken impression that he is a demon should really do their research, study historical documents and realize what a huge mistake they are making.
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Nice picture of Zasep Tulku Rinpoche and his students with a statue of Dorje Shugden on the far right
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For such a distinguished Lama who is one of the last of his generation, it sure is a little saddening that he doesn’t speak up much against the ban. What could people say? That he’s a liar? But he’s lived through it all and seen it all, and seen THROUGH it all. He wouldn’t be talking from hearsay but from experience and personal knowledge. I’m just saying, it’d be nice to see more people speaking up against the ban, especially people of his caliber so it’s not as though Dorje Shugden lamas are always on their own. Where’s the solidarity man?
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Reading Zasep Rinpoche's autobiography in regards to DS, I have deep respect for him because it's not easy for anyone to come out in the open to talk or write about DS without risking their life, reputation, losing sponsors and students.
I have not read the rest of his autobiography but what is important to know is that Rinpoche shared the same root teacher as His Holiness the Dalai Lama who is none other than the great Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. This means they are dharma brothers who shared the same teachings and high chances ... the same practices.
There are so many valid proofs on how DS saved DL yet there are people who chose to ignore this fact because of HHDL's fame and status. HHDL is not the ONLY high lama with a long line of incarnation and is an emanation of a Buddha. If he was, how would Trijang Rinpoche be qualified to teach him? This shows that Trijang Rinpoche is also of the same par with HHDL.
If we believe there are many Buddhas such as Medicine Buddha, Chenrezig, Manjushri, Heruka, Vajrayogini, Tara and so on ... how would it be possible that ONLY Chenrezig chose to return in the nirmanakaya form, the emanation body we can physically perceive? Hence, there are other lamas who are Enlightened and their words should be taken into consideration as well. I believe what Zasep Rinpoche wrote in this biography is the truth.
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This is such an awesome find! The 2 things that stuck out for me are:
1) How both Zasep Tulku Rinpoche's and Trijang Rinpoche's account of Dalai Lama's escape matches perfectly. It was Gyalchen Dorje Shugden who saved Dalai Lama's life and NOT Nechung. As Zasep Tulku Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche are both attained Lamas with undisputable calibre, this information can definitely be relied on.
2) The irrational and undemocratic ban on Dorje Shugden practice is just the way Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) tries to distract the world away from their failure. What failure? Failure to regain their home country after 60 years! Who on earth blames a God or deity on a government's failure? Only CTA. What's even more illogical is that CTA thinks everyone will buy into their brand of "truth". In this day and age where there is practically free flow of information, CTA has to realise that there are many who know the REAL truth.
Glad to see that Zasep Tulku Rinpoche has chosen to be open about his protector practice. Hope that more Shugden Lamas will lend their voice and presence to help lift the ban. If all the Shugden Lamas banded together, who is CTA to demonise Shugden practice? Surely a group of high lama's views will supercede those of secular leaders who have failed their own people miserably.
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Everything Zasep Rinpoche writes is very true! He is a respected lama.He pointed out that DS is the real protector to help the Dalai lama escape from Tibet.
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Thanks for the great find!
It is not easy for a lama to be opened about his practice of Dorje Shugden as it may cause discrimination, defame, or even at the risk of their life due to the Dorje Shugden ban. I truly salute Zasep Rinpoche to mentioned his practice in his biography.
Zasep Rinoche mentioned about it was Dorje Shugden that helped H.H. Dalai Lama to fled from Tibet. It is just the same as other facts mentioned in one of the DorjeShugden.com article (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/)). It is showing me more evidences that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being and he has helped Dalai Lama. If Dorje Shugden is to harm Dalai Lama, how would he in the first place save Dalai Lama from Tibet to India?
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Many of the facts mentioned and described by Zasep Tulku Rinpoche's biography is not something totally new, including Dorje Shugden is the one who has saved HH Dalai Lama's life, and what route to take to escape safely. Information as such have been shared by dorjeshugden.com.
I summary, Zasep Rinpoche in his biography mentioned that:
* Dorje Shugden practice is something dear to his heart.
* HH Dalai Lama heeded the advice of Dorje Shugden via Panglung oracle, hence he is able to escape and arrived safely in India.
* When mentioned about Gelug, Kagyu and Nyingma all live together peacefully, doing prayers togetehr in harmony. Only after Central Tibetan Adminstration come in to divine and rule, the Tibetan community has turned into a divided society, as you can see now. Hoping that one day all the lineages can live together with HARMONY, regardless one group of people is practising Dorje Shugden or not.
* CTA is the culprit behind the Dorje Shugden ban to divide the Tibetan community.
* Sakya lineage has history of practising Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden is not SECTARIAN, if not why non Gelug lineage people won't be practising Dorje Shugden, unless they are receiving blessings from Dorje Shugden.
It's glad to have record re Dorje Shugden as such in a Rinpoche's biography, which speaks in details. Many resource can now cross check.
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Nice picture of Zasep Tulku Rinpoche and his students with a statue of Dorje Shugden on the far right
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Zasep Rinpoche has strong guru devotion where he will follow the practice passed to him by his masters. He is very dedicated and determined in doing dharma for the benefit of others. Zasep Rinpoche had been doing Dorje Shugden practice with his grandfather since he was 9 years old, as written in “A Tulku’s Journey from Tibet to Canada”. By 17 years old, he received Dorje Shugden initiation from Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, who is also the junior tutor of HH the 14th Dalai Lama when the HHDL was 19 years old.
This photo tells a truth that Zasep Rinpoche has strong faith and continue propitiate to Dorje Shugden until today.
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Zasep Rinpoche is an amazing Lama with many authentic lineages of practice and teachings received from some of the highest Lamas of the Gelug traditions. His esteemed teachers including Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Rongtha Rinpoche, Guru Deva Rinpoche and Khalkha Jetsun Dhampa are some of the most highest Lamas of our current era. If he received his practices from them, it must be important but most of all, it must be a positive one. Otherwise, the whole Gelug lineage is mistaken.
On top of that this book is heart breaking because in one section of the book it describes what Guru Deva Rinpoche had to go through because of the attitudes against Dorje Shugden. In fact one of Guru Deva Rinpoche’s monastic temples which he himself built near Boudhanatha Stupa in Kathmandu, Nepal. It is called Samten Ling. This temple had a Protector Chapel on the top floor. They used to do Dorje Shugden pujas there on a daily basis. But the Central Tibetan Administration took over the temple and kicked out Dorje Shugden practitioners. Can you believe that? They totally trashed Guru Deva Rinpoche’s holy legacy.
For someone like Zasep Tulku to talk so openly about Dorje Shugden is brave given the situation. Though he may not be at the forefront of the Dorje Shugden movement, he is definitely an unsung hero.
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For someone like Zasep Tulku to talk so openly about Dorje Shugden is brave given the situation. Though he may not be at the forefront of the Dorje Shugden movement, he is definitely an unsung hero.
Very true. If more people whether they are Tulkus or ordinary practitioners had the courage to speak of their devotion to Dorje Shugden, it would create a very powerful movement. It would be so inspiring to Shugdenpas all around the world and it would empower more people to stay true to their teachers, their lineage and their vows.
Many people mistakenly think that Dorje Shugden practitioners are against the Dalai Lama but we can see in the example of Zasep Rinpoche that this is not true. He remains respectful of the Dalai Lama - a quick look online will show the Dalai Lama’s portrait in a position of reverence in Zasep Rinpoche’s centers and shrines.
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When I read this sentence “According to Zasep Tulku Rinpoche (as well), it was Dorje Shugden through trance of the Panglung oracle, not Nechung, who saved the Dalai Lama from China’s invasion in 1959.”, again it clearly tells us that Dorje Shugden helps Dalai Lama escape from Tibet.
I am deeply respect Zasep Tulku Rinpoche because he having courage to call Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is fully at fault for the schism in the Gelug school that spilled over to divide Tibetan Buddhists around the world.
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There are so many written accounts by great and highly accomplished lamas of how Dorje Shugden helped in the escape of HH the Dalai Lama from Tibet. And these lamas and other lamas spoke of the enlightened nature of Dorje Shugden and pass on his practice to their students. Yet CTA brand Dorje Shugden as a demon and use many methods to put Dorje Shugden down. The negative motivation and actions by the CTA will no doubt come back to haunt them. Like the saying that goes 'karma is a bitch.' 8)
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Zasep Rinpoche's comments( written in 2016) on Dorje Shugden as a powerful Protector, and how his predictions through renowned oracles have always been so accurate and have led to earth-moving decisions and results, are current enough to make its mark as a valid and distinctive commentary on the Shugden controversy. From this Master of distinguished stature comes an account of the escape of the Dalai Lama from Tibet into India that clearly corroborates Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche's account. Furthermore, he is to be lauded for being brave enough to forthrightly and uncategorically state that the Tibetan Leadership has "orchestrated the Shugden controversy" to "deflect attention from their incompetence". Yes, especially their incompetence in handling the administration of the Tibetans in Exile in India, leaving them in such a dire state of hopelessness and helplessness.
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There are so many more lamas both senior and junior who are still practicing Dorje Shugden in secret. They attended Dalai Lama's teachings and events and pretend to not practice Dorje Shugden, but actually they are practicing and never stopped. Many of my Tibetan friends in the monasteries and Dharamsala tell me this. It is a well known 'secret' in the Tibetan communities of India and Nepal.
Once the Dalai Lama passes away peacefully, the secret practitioners will all come out of the woodworks and practice openly. They are not wishing for the Dalai Lama to pass away, but he will naturally one day. The monks all say this.
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Propaganda will just be propaganda whereas the truth is undeniable.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/what-happens-to-dorje-shugden-lamas/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/what-happens-to-dorje-shugden-lamas/)
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/who-made-lama-zopa-a-rinpoche/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/who-made-lama-zopa-a-rinpoche/)
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For such a distinguished Lama who is one of the last of his generation, it sure is a little saddening that he doesn’t speak up much against the ban. What could people say? That he’s a liar? But he’s lived through it all and seen it all, and seen THROUGH it all. He wouldn’t be talking from hearsay but from experience and personal knowledge. I’m just saying, it’d be nice to see more people speaking up against the ban, especially people of his caliber so it’s not as though Dorje Shugden lamas are always on their own. Where’s the solidarity man?
Personally I am glad to see that Zasep Tulku Rinpoche addressed the Dorje Shugden issue boldly in his book. He could have avoided it altogether like a lot of people have for the last 20 years. If more people had stood up and called out the Tibetan government on their lies about Dorje Shugden, the controversy would not have become so protracted. Having said that, I too wish Rinpoche had said more.
The CTA's Dorje Shugden ban not only impaired the Gelug lineage but also the Sakya and the Tibetan Buddhist community as a whole. And this is not to mention how much the Dorje Shugden controversy distracted critical attention and effort away from the Tibetan struggle. Incidentally Zasep Tulku's writing about what he personally saw at the Sakya Monastery confirms yet again that the 40th Sakya Trinzin lied about the prominence of Dorje Shugden within the Sakya.
Those who know that the Tibetan government blatantly deformed the truth about Dorje Shugden and choose to do nothing contribute to the decay of the lineage and also the Dharma. It is understandable enough if they live in the Tibetan settlements and have to avoid trouble but a lot of lamas, geshes, monks and practitioners live far away from Dharamsala but decide to keep quiet because its just easier to do nothing.
Geshe Kelsang Gyatso's NKT used to fight the ban boisterously but somehow decided to retreat without even a whimper. Some like Tsem Tulku have been very vocal against lies said about the Protector but in a peaceable way. Tsem Tulku is attacked for speaking the truth but I guess it is better to be attacked than to see people disparage your holy gurus as demon practitioners. Tsem Tulku's devotion to Zong Rinpoche is legendary. Incidentally Zong Rinpoche is also one of Zasep Rinpoche's teachers. As for the other Shugden lamas, I suppose they have their own excuses and alibis.
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May Zasep Tulku Rinpoche live long and continue to speak against the CTA's very harmful ban on Dorje Shugden.
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Interesting to read from Zasep Rinpoche on HH the Dalai escape which is the same as what Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche said where Dorje Shugden is the one that safe His Holiness by advising him to escape from Tibet. If there is only one person talk about it, it could be hard to believe but now more and more people speak up based on their experience which mean it’s the truth. It’s sad to see how the fact being twisted by saying Nechung is the one that help His Holiness the Dalai Lama escape from Tibet where else Nechung is the want actually asked His Holiness the Dalai Lama to stay! Imagine what would happen if His Holiness listen to Nechung? One more sadden issue is that after Dorje Shugden has help and safe His Holiness, His Holiness turn out to ban Dorje Shugden practice. This really sound so unjust and how could Dorje Shugden being right for the past 400 years and now suddenly be wrong? If Dorje Shugden can be wrong now which mean all the high lamas can be wrong too including His Holiness and who can be right now? It doesn’t make sense.
I’m glad to read what Zasep Rinpoche stated here as the truth will always revealed.
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For such a distinguished Lama who is one of the last of his generation, it sure is a little saddening that he doesn’t speak up much against the ban. What could people say? That he’s a liar? But he’s lived through it all and seen it all, and seen THROUGH it all. He wouldn’t be talking from hearsay but from experience and personal knowledge. I’m just saying, it’d be nice to see more people speaking up against the ban, especially people of his caliber so it’s not as though Dorje Shugden lamas are always on their own. Where’s the solidarity man?
Personally I am glad to see that Zasep Tulku Rinpoche addressed the Dorje Shugden issue boldly in his book. He could have avoided it altogether like a lot of people have for the last 20 years. If more people had stood up and called out the Tibetan government on their lies about Dorje Shugden, the controversy would not have become so protracted. Having said that, I too wish Rinpoche had said more.
The CTA's Dorje Shugden ban not only impaired the Gelug lineage but also the Sakya and the Tibetan Buddhist community as a whole. And this is not to mention how much the Dorje Shugden controversy distracted critical attention and effort away from the Tibetan struggle. Incidentally Zasep Tulku's writing about what he personally saw at the Sakya Monastery confirms yet again that the 40th Sakya Trinzin lied about the prominence of Dorje Shugden within the Sakya.
Those who know that the Tibetan government blatantly deformed the truth about Dorje Shugden and choose to do nothing contribute to the decay of the lineage and also the Dharma. It is understandable enough if they live in the Tibetan settlements and have to avoid trouble but a lot of lamas, geshes, monks and practitioners live far away from Dharamsala but decide to keep quiet because its just easier to do nothing.
Geshe Kelsang Gyatso's NKT used to fight the ban boisterously but somehow decided to retreat without even a whimper. Some like Tsem Tulku have been very vocal against lies said about the Protector but in a peaceable way. Tsem Tulku is attacked for speaking the truth but I guess it is better to be attacked than to see people disparage your holy gurus as demon practitioners. Tsem Tulku's devotion to Zong Rinpoche is legendary. Incidentally Zong Rinpoche is also one of Zasep Rinpoche's teachers. As for the other Shugden lamas, I suppose they have their own excuses and alibis.
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May Zasep Tulku Rinpoche live long and continue to speak against the CTA's very harmful ban on Dorje Shugden.
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I do find it strange why the eminent DS Lamas would keep quiet about the ban on Dorje Shugden even now as the issue had grown beyond attacks on this enlightened protector to attacks on the DS lineage Lamas who had also transmitted tantric practices like Vajrayogini, Cittamani Tara, Heruka. So if Lamas like Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche could be attacked for being DS Lamas then won't it invalidate all the tantric practices transmitted from them? Is that is so then won't the whole lineage practices be wiped out? I do commend Tsem Rinpoche's courage for standing up for more than the Dorje Shugden issue. Its a protection of integrity of all those precious lineage practices. All those that had faced the discrimination and persecution due to the ban should all the more come forward in union to bring the ban down so that others will not have to suffer the same. Its the compassion that had always been taught, is it not? May Zasep Rinpoche's bold statements be the first of many that will come from all DS Lamas that we look up to.
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What Zasep Rinpoche wrote in his autobiography is quite a big news for Shugden practitioners, but what I find it quite strange is that, this book was published 2016 (about 2 years ago), but nobody seems to pick it up?
Clearly what Zasep Rinpoche said about Shugden helped Dalai Lama (and not Nechung) is coincide with what DorjeShugden.com published ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/uncovered-truth-evidence-of-how-dorje-shugden-was-actually-behind-the-dalai-lamas-escape-out-of-tibet-to-india-in-1959/[/url])) but no one has picked the content of his autobiography and show the content to the world, especially the Shugden community? This is strange, but nonetheless, it is good to know Zasep Rinpoche open accepts Shugden practice and acknowledged this practice is good.
I just wish that more Shugden people can know about this. Rejoice!
Yes Kris, what you say is really true... how come no one promoted this? No Shugdenpas promoted this. I am so glad that this has been brought to our attention by phyag na rlangs pa.
Again this is another clear proof that CTA has been lying to the world! And no one can say someone like Zasep Rinpoche is lying. How can an erudite master with Gurus the same as His Holiness the Dalai Lama lie? What does Zasep Rinpoche gain from telly lies if he is?
So it is CTA that is telling a lie when CTA goes around saying that it was Nechung who saved the Dalai Lama. All these lies from the CTA for what purpose? All for the sake of hiding their failures and distracting Tibetans from the actual truth, that they lost the plot and is not successful in getting their country.
My respect for Zasep Rinpoche for speaking up and out and I so wish more senior and high Shugden lamas would do the same.
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Zasep Rinpoche is saying it out loud that he is a Dorje Shugden lama and he has practiced it since he was very young. The practice was passed down to him by his teacher and he has kept the practice ever since. It is very brave of him to write it out in his biography.
What is interesting is the detail Zasep Rinpoche gave with regards to the escape of the Dalai Lama. His story is identical to that of Trijang Rinpoche. It cannot be that 2 lamas have cooked up a story so they can tell the same lies. They are high lamas, I don't think they will tell lies.
On the other hand, the CTA is definitely telling lies just like how they lie about Dorje Shugden. They claimed it was Nechung who helped Dalai Lama to escape. The fact is if they had listened to Nechung, the Dalai Lama would not have escaped from China safely. He might be captured by the Chinese and end up in the prison.
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Let’s see what Nechung comes from and compare it with Dorje Shugden. It’s baffling to see why Dalai Lama acknowledges Nechung as someone more reliable than Dorje Shugden despite he has timely failed to provide accurate predictions and it was Dorje Shugden who saved Dalai Lama providing clear instructions of the safest route to leave tibet in 1959.
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Nice picture of Zasep Tulku Rinpoche and his students with a statue of Dorje Shugden on the far right
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Zasep Rinpoche is no ordinary Lama. He has studied under some of the greatest Gelug masters of this age, including under the two tutors of the Dalai Lama, Kyabje Ling Rinpoche (a non-Shugden practitioner) and Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang (the foremost propagator of the Shugden practice this century)
Under Kyabje Ling Rinpoche, a non-Shugden practitioner, Zasep Tulku received among many initiations, among the many is the practice of the very rare sacred teachings called: The combination practice of peaceful and wrathful Manjushri (Tib. Jamyang Zhe Tro Drag Drup Thun Moomg Ma Yin Pa.)
Not many people know about this teaching, few Lamas have received this teaching. According to the tradition of Geluk, you have to wait for a long time in order to receive this teaching. One has to wait for three years, three months and three days. Each year you have to make new request to the lamas.
Five Lamas made this request to H.H. Ling Rinpoche: Ven. Zasep Rinpoche, his teacher Ven. Geshe Thupten Wanggyel, Ven. Sha Ko Ken Rinpoche, Ven. Ja Moon Rinpoche, and Ven. Jhampa Kelsang Rinpoche. After three years, three months and three days waiting, a letter arrived from H.H. Ling Rinpoche saying now it is time for you to come and receive this teaching.
The five Lamas traveled to Dharamsala from Dalhousie. It was a great honor and happiness to receive this rare sacred teaching. The actual duration of receiving this teaching was less than three hours. H.H. Ling Rinpoche lent his own text for them to copy by hand. The text is not allowed to be printed or published.
Zasep Rinpoche's first Dharma centre in Canada, Gaden Choling Mahayana Buddhist Meditation Centre, was also at the request of Kyabje Ling Rinpoche who invited him to become the first resident teacher.
What am I saying?
I'm saying that even until the eighties, before the height of the Shugden ban in the mid-nineties, non-Shugden and Shugden practitioners were not only living and practising harmoniously but they also had immense respect for each other.
Without the divisive discrimination of the Shugden ban by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) imposed in 1996, Shugden Lamas were evaluated on their level of Dharma knowledge and virtuous deeds, as it should be.
Zasep Rinpoche is also an example of what RIME should be. Zasep Rinpoche is another fine example of how non-sectarian Gelugpa Shugden practitioners are. As he says in his advice and guidelines to students:
Non-sectarianism and non-confusion
Throughout history, Lama Je Tsong Khapa’s Gelug tradition has been remarkably non-sectarian. Lama Je Tsong Khapa himself studied under and received many initiations from masters of different traditions. I encourage my students to respect all traditions and lineages of Tibetan Buddhism and all other Buddhist paths. In addition to studying Tibetan Buddhism, I have personally studied in the Theravadin Buddhist tradition, having entered a Thai monastery and ordained as a Theravadin Bikkhu in 1975. I also practised Vipassana meditation under the most renowned master Achaan Buddhadasa at Wat Sowanmok in Thailand. There is a Tibetan word, REMI, which literally translates as “not taking sides, being non-sectarian,” but it really means emphasizing the similarities of different sects. It does not mean mixing together many different practices. The idea of REMI is good, but I am not sure how many true REMI practitioners there are these days. I think REMI is a nice idea, like sharing Dharma with your friends. I don’t have problems with the idea of REMI. Actually, my grandmother was a devotee of the Kagyu tradition and many of my family members were also Kagyu; some were Sakya and a few were Nyingma. My family members were very respectful of each other’s traditions, lineages and practices; they accommodated and supported each other. My great uncle Sachu Tulku Rinpoche was a revered Guru of the Karma Kagyu tradition; he was a master of the six yogas of Naropa. My great uncle Taruk Tulku Rinpoche was a revered Guru of Sakya tradition; he was a Tantric master and a Tibetan Amchi doctor. My own previous incarnation, Lama Karma Kunchog Tenzing, was a scholar, astrologer and yogi of the Karma Kagyu lineage and abbot of Zuru monastery in Tibet. As a young boy, I was recognized as the true incarnation of Lama Karma Kunchog Tenzing by Jetrung Rinpoche of the Nyingma tradition, who was head of Jetrung Gompa in Zadoh district, Tibet, by the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa Rangjung Rigpe Dorje and by Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. Because my previous incarnations were as Karma Kagyu Lamas, I have deep feeling and love for the Karma Kagyu lineage. In fact, I have raised funds to rebuild Zuru Monastery in Tibet.
?However, unless you are an advanced practitioner, you should not mix different traditions, lineages, and teachings because you do not know how to make sense of them in a deeply meaningful way. It is unwise and unnecessary to mix practices, taking from here, taking from there; to do so is to create confusion within your own practice. Generally, people in the West, even people who have studied the Dharma for years, are a bit skeptical about the importance of Dharma traditions and lineages. Nonetheless, I strongly believe it is important to practise within a tradition, to follow the lineages of that tradition, and to practise in accordance with them. An eclectic mix of teachings and practices is a recipe for confusion that will in all probability impede progress on the spiritual path. I think some Western people develop a rebellious attitude when Dharma teachers like me say this; they think we are trying to control their minds by persuading them that the only worthwhile tradition is our own personal tradition. But we say it out of concern for the student that he or she will drown in a sea of confusion. I am certainly not interested in controlling the mind of anyone else; I am only interested in controlling and subduing my own mind so that I can become a good vehicle for following to the path of Buddha.
My wish in posting this, is to be able to inspire more Dorje Shugden practitioners to 'come out' and speak up against the false propaganda and deception of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).
It's time for all Tibetans and Tibetan Buddhists to show support for Dorje Shugden and the practice, as well as stand in solidarity with Shugden Lamas and their students.
Ki ki so so lha gyal lo!
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Let’s see what Nechung comes from and compare it with Dorje Shugden. It’s baffling to see why Dalai Lama acknowledges Nechung as someone more reliable than Dorje Shugden despite he has timely failed to provide accurate predictions and it was Dorje Shugden who saved Dalai Lama providing clear instructions of the safest route to leave tibet in 1959.
Amazing after Nechung has proven so unreliable, since the 13th Dalai Lama's time. It was Nechung's doing for prescribing the wrong medication to the 13th Dalai Lama, and the deity was flogged during trance. You can read this in the "Portrait of the Dalai Lama" which documents the life of the 13th Dalai Lama by Sir Charles Bell,
“On this occasion, the Nechung oracle said that the Dalai Lama should take a medicine known as “the seventeen heroes for subduing colds” (chamjom pawo chupdun) and himself prepared the medicine in a cup with water. Most respondents report that the Dalai Lama refused the dose and that the state oracle literally had to pour it into his mouth. The Dalai Lama’s condition immediately deteriorated, and by noon he was unconscious. He never said another word.” Because his advice resulted in this catastrophe, the deity Nechung was flogged while taking trance in the Oracle.
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Amazing after Nechung has proven so unreliable, since the 13th Dalai Lama's time. It was Nechung's doing for prescribing the wrong medication to the 13th Dalai Lama, and the deity was flogged during trance. You can read this in the "Portrait of the Dalai Lama" which documents the life of the 13th Dalai Lama by Sir Charles Bell,
“On this occasion, the Nechung oracle said that the Dalai Lama should take a medicine known as “the seventeen heroes for subduing colds” (chamjom pawo chupdun) and himself prepared the medicine in a cup with water. Most respondents report that the Dalai Lama refused the dose and that the state oracle literally had to pour it into his mouth. The Dalai Lama’s condition immediately deteriorated, and by noon he was unconscious. He never said another word.” Because his advice resulted in this catastrophe, the deity Nechung was flogged while taking trance in the Oracle.
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There are some theories about why Nechung has been getting it 'wong'.
Remember Nechung Gyalchen Dorje Dragden was oath-bound by Padmasambhava (Guru Rinpoche) and so there is no way Nechung could have broken his promise. That would imply that Guru Rinpoche's bind has lost power which cannot be. Guru Rinpoche is without question, an enlightened being.
It also good to remember that Trijang Dorje Chang regarded Nechung as an enlightened being in Music Delighting The Ocean Of Protectors. Again, Trijang Rinpoche could not have been wrong.
In the Drepung edition of Panchen Sonam Drakpa's biography, we learn that it was Nechung who urged the Panchen to arise as protector of the Gaden Teachings (Lama Tsongkhapa's lineage). And we also know that it was Nechung who committed Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen to oath and reminded Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen (who is the same mind stream and Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen and Panchen Sonam Drakpa) of his promise. These are acts of a Bodhisattva who cannot harm the Dharma like the 'Nechung' of today seems to be, by causing the demise of the 13th Dalai Lama and recommending the prohibition of Dorje Shugden's practice.
So why is it that Nechung who is in fact enlightened just like Dorje Shugden is. manifest such mistakes? A number of possible reasons:
1. Nechung is manifesting mistakes so that the people would turn to Dorje Shugden instead and come to depend on Shugden who is karmically most effective for practitioners of this era. Remember it was Nechung who initiated the rise of Dorje Shugden and therefore seeing that people rely on Shugden would be part of the plan,
2. Nechung is not already not around and it is something else taking trance of the oracle of Nechung. We see in the book by Nebesky-Kojkowitz (Demons and Oracles of Tibet) written in the 1950s based on ancient sources, Dorje Shugden is by prophesy supposed to take over as the State Protector and Chief Dharmapala of Tibet, after Nechung has vacated:
According to Blo bzang phun tsogs three gates lead into the cloistered courtyard of the monastery. The southern gate (1) is held closed in accordance with an old tradition that the chos skong rDo rje shugs ldan is waiting at this entrance for the day to come on which he will be allowed to enter the monastery, to succeed Pe har as the chief dharmap?la of Tibet after the former has become a ‘jig rten las ‘das pa’i srung ma and has vacated the temple.
(http://www.dorjeshugden.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/nechunggompa1.gif)
So is it a possibility that the real Nechung Gyalchen Dorje Dragden has already vacated and Dorje Shugden has already assumed the role of Tibet's State Protector (see how Dorje Shugden saved the Tibetan people during the 13th Dalai Lama's time [See: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/dorje-shugden-assists-the-great-13th-dalai-lama/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/dorje-shugden-assists-the-great-13th-dalai-lama/)] and also recall how Dorje Shugden saved the 14th Dalai Lama [http://www.dorjeshugden.com/spread-the-word/write-a-letter/make-a-difference-letter-24/] but is being rejected by forces that do not wish to the the propagation and success of Lama Tsongkhapa's lineage and Dharma?
In the history of Tibetan Buddhism, there is not a single record of Nechung and Dorje Shugden being adversaries. In fact you never hear of a Buddha or Protector 'fighting' another Buddha/Protector. This only happened under the present Tibetan leadership/CTA. If If both Nechung and Dorje Shugden are working hand in hand to protect and spread the Dharma, then the entity that is standing in their was is the present Tibetan leadership.
So who is the real anti-Dharma entity?
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There is another theory about the present Nechung Oracle and that is he is faking his trances.
He is in fact just pretending to be in "trance" of Dorje Drakden and is just stating what the CTA want's him to say.
Remember the CTA has given him the rank and pay of a "Deputy Minister".
If he wants to keep that title and pay he better do what they tell him to do, or else.
Here is an article I wrote about the present Nechung declaring an non Buddhist American woman as a Tulku and Oracle without anyone's permission.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6090.msg65854#msg65854 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6090.msg65854#msg65854)
The CTA is down to their last "State Oracle".
The "Deities" that take trance of the Gadong and Lamo Tsangpa "State Oracles" have refused to take trance of any of the "Sons" of the previous "Oracles".
Why have both "Shinjachen" and "Tsangpa Karpo" refused to re-manifest and assist the Dalai Lama and the CTA?
Lama Zasep Rinpoche has stated that he has full trust and faith in both the Panglung and Gameng Oracles but not a single word of praise for the Nechung Oracle.
Why?
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Many erudite and great Lamas practise Dorje Shugden in private. Are they afraid of the consequences that they may create? Personally having experienced the teachings of the Great Protector, Dorje Shugden and His great compassion and kindness, it that is the attitude of all Dorje Shugden practitioners to be peaceful and patience.
It is definitely inspiring to know that Zasep Rinpoche expresses His faith and practice of Dorje Shugden in his book. I think it is time that all the wrong information on Dorje Shugden be rectified and let the world benefit from the great grace of this supreme Protector.
It is time for CTA to lift the Ban. Then only would CTA be practising some level of integrity and compassion.
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It is unsurprising that it was Dorje Shugden who was consulted
The Thirteenth Dalai Lama (1876-1933) attempted to reform his country in many different respects, from the military to political and social practices. He strengthened the institution of Dalai Lama to an unprecedented extent. Even the Fifth Dalai Lama had his regent deal with affairs of state for long periods of time, while the Thirteenth took complete control of the political side of the Ganden Potang government.
As one of the reform measures, the Thirteenth Dalai Lama had all the oracles tested and dismissed the frauds. According to oral sources, he is said to have banned all oracles for a certain period of time. Tibet had a complicated system of protective deities and local spirits that came through oracles in trance. Their power and abilityto assist was believed to range widely with some being Buddhist protectors and forces under their control as well as other worldly spirits from ancient and pre-historic times. During the Thirteenth’ moratorium, even the State Oracle was silenced because Nechung, a protector subdued by Padmasambhava and established as a Tibetan national protector by the Fifth Dalai Lama, had given false prophesies through the oracle in trance.
At no time did the Thirteenth Dalai Lama close Trode Khangsar in Lhasa, a residence of Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen the FifthDalai Lama had authorized to be turned into a special protector temple for Dorje Shugden. The biography of the Thirteenth Dalai Lama does not mention any ban of Dorje Shugden or his oracle. On the contrary, it mentions advice given by Dorje Shugden through the oracle at Tromo Dungkar Gonpa which the Thirteenth Dalai Lama appreciated and followed.
The Thirteenth Dalai Lama was ultimately unsuccessful in banning oracles.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/condemned-to-silence-part-2/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/condemned-to-silence-part-2/)
Also with respect to the 13th Dalai Lama, the 13th Dalai Lama also highly respected Domo Geshe Rinpoche Ngawang Kalsang (1936 – 1966) that upon meeting him, the 13th Dalai Lama declared that he had met Lama Tsongkhapa himself. It is well known and described about how Domo Geshe Rinpoche relied on Dorje Shugden.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/tributes/a-tribute-to-domo-geshe-rinpoche/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/tributes/a-tribute-to-domo-geshe-rinpoche/)
(http://www.arya-maitreya-mandala.org/content/pics/acarya_tomogeshe.jpg)
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So is it a possibility that the real Nechung Gyalchen Dorje Dragden has already vacated and Dorje Shugden has already assumed the role of Tibet's State Protector (see how Dorje Shugden saved the Tibetan people during the 13th Dalai Lama's time [See: [url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/dorje-shugden-assists-the-great-13th-dalai-lama/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/dorje-shugden-assists-the-great-13th-dalai-lama/[/url])] and also recall how Dorje Shugden saved the 14th Dalai Lama [http://www.dorjeshugden.com/spread-the-word/write-a-letter/make-a-difference-letter-24/] but is being rejected by forces that do not wish to the the propagation and success of Lama Tsongkhapa's lineage and Dharma?
In the history of Tibetan Buddhism, there is not a single record of Nechung and Dorje Shugden being adversaries. In fact you never hear of a Buddha or Protector 'fighting' another Buddha/Protector. This only happened under the present Tibetan leadership/CTA. If If both Nechung and Dorje Shugden are working hand in hand to protect and spread the Dharma, then the entity that is standing in their was is the present Tibetan leadership.
So who is the real anti-Dharma entity?
I have often wondered about this aspect of the Nechung and Shugden story.
Nechung is as an unenlightened being: a samsaric being capable of death and rebirth. Perhaps as an oath-bound Dharma Protector, Pehar would not take rebirth as a being in the lower realms but will have earned the merits to become a human, asura, dewa or even become enlightened or rebirth in a pure land to receive and learn Dharma to become enlightened.
Shugden waiting to enter into Pehar's position as Tibet's State Protector does not equate as a 'promotion' or that Dorje Shugden is a lesser being. It just means that there are the values of having humility and offering respect to and for another sentient being. Those are the qualities of a true Bodhisattva.
My question here is, if what VajraTruth is correct, then if Nechung has taken rebirth in a higher realm, then who has been entering the Nechung oracle in trance?
Does HHDL know this, with his level of attainment and clairvoyance, I am certain he will know who it is he is consulting.
Or, maybe HHDL and CTA have been just putting on a show for the world all this while.
These are things that make one go: hmmm...
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"My question here is, if what VajraTruth is correct, then if Nechung has taken rebirth in a higher realm, then who has been entering the Nechung oracle in trance?"
Maybe a man who will do or say anything for money, status and power.
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"My question here is, if what VajraTruth is correct, then if Nechung has taken rebirth in a higher realm, then who has been entering the Nechung oracle in trance?"
Maybe a man who will do or say anything for money, status and power.
The oracle of Dorje Yudronma may have given an indication in 2016.
In this video at 18:00 you can hear her shouting "Long Chen Chenma!" while approaching the Nechung oracle. To me her actions does not seem normal to me and may indicate some sort of a warning. She had to be restrained by the helpers. Maybe someone could enlighten us of what was going on in the video.
https://youtu.be/gaxjDp-09nA?t=1084 (https://youtu.be/gaxjDp-09nA?t=1084)
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Here is a link to an article I wrote in Nov. 2016 titled "When was the last time these tests were cared out on Nechung Oracle".
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5749.msg63600#msg63600 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5749.msg63600#msg63600)
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"My question here is, if what VajraTruth is correct, then if Nechung has taken rebirth in a higher realm, then who has been entering the Nechung oracle in trance?"
Maybe a man who will do or say anything for money, status and power.
It has been rumoured that a vengeful spirit named Nyatrul could have taken over. Nyatrul was killed by the ministers of the 13th Dalai Lama after accusing him of trying to poison the Dalai Lama. He was actually innocent and was visiting his friend. As the Minister needed to solve the case they falsely accused Nyatrul and killed him. It seems that the adminstration of the Dalai Lama loves to accuse and kill others they deemed threatening or for convenience. And the Dalai Lama allow it! That is the strange part. While the Dalai Lama is supposedly enlightened but why does he allows all these terrible karmically negative acts? I am talking about the 5th , 13th, even the 14th. Since they are of the same mindstream, then they think the same??? What do you think?
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Yes SabS I do think that "Nyatrul" aka "Nyari Tulku" has affected previous Nechung Oracles.
I do not believe he is also doing this to the present Nechung Oracle.
I believe that the present Nechung Oracle and the previous Lamo Tsangpa Oracle were both in the pay of the CTA.
They both engaged in false trances and condemned Dorje Shugden in exchange for money, power and status.
The Lamo Tsangpa Oracle was the 3rd highest state Oracle.
He died in 2003 and none of his sons have be chosen by Tsangpa Karpo to take his place as a "State Oracle".
Tsangpa Karpo is the peaceful emanation of Lord Setrap.
Here is a link to a post I did on June 27, 2016 about the corrupt Lamo Tsangpa Oracle.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5603.msg62182#msg62182 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5603.msg62182#msg62182)
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" Was the previous Lamo Tsangpa Oracle corrupt?
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The Lamo Tsangpa Oracle holds the third highest position in the world of Tibetan State Oracles. The Lamo Tsangpa Oracle's position is a family held position that is passed from father to son. It is called "Lamo" since the original Oracle came from "Lamo" monastery in Tibet.
The previous Lamo Tsangpa was Tsewang Namgyal who held this position from 1986 until his death in 2003. He was official enthroned by the 14th Dalai Lama to this position in 1986. Originally the same problem with the Gadong Oracle existed with the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle in 1986. The Lamo Tsangpa Oracle did not "Speak" while in trance. In the DVD titled "Oracles - Reflections of Self" it clearly showed that the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle originally did not speak. Go to the 29:30 minute mark and you will be both the Gadong Oracle and the eldest son of Tsewang Namgyal both state that he did not originally speak. Even the producer of the film states this fact on numerous occasions.
This is now twice the 14th Dalai Lama chose a State Oracle that did not speak. The Gadong Oracle from 1987 until his death in 2015 (29 years) never spoke. Tsem Rinpoche did an excellent piece on youtube about Oracles titled "Taking Trances". He tells us of how a candidate is first chosen, the numerous retreats he must take and the testing done to prove that a proper Deity and not a demon has entered the candidate. Only after you successfully pass all these tests does the Lama that is testing you declare in an official certificate that you are an "Oracle". When the Dalai Lama enthroned Tsewang Namgyal in 1986 it appears he would have "Failed" a proper test by a Lama.
I do not believe that the dharmapala "Tsangpa Karpo" ever entered Tsewang Namgyal. That he was a "PAIDED" puppet of the 14th Dalai Lama. You can check this out on this very website by typing "Very good commentary by TK" into the search box. You will find an article written on February 2010 about two official announcements done in 1995 by the Lamo Tsangpo Oracle condemning Dorje Shugden. The first announcement was done on May 14, 1995 at the request of the "Private Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama". The second announcement was done on June 14, 1995 at the request of the Cabinet of the "Tibetan Government in Exile". Both these announcements were anti Dorje Shugden and were done a mere year before the official "BAN" on the practice of Dorje Shugden.
I do not believe that these trances were real but FAKED. You may know that "Tsangpa Karpo" is a dharmapala but you may not know that he is the peaceful emanation of "Setrap". Yes that's correct, "Setrap" is the wrathful emanation of "Trangpa Karpo". It was "Setrap" who saved Dorje Shugden from death from Mindrolling Rinpoche's "Fire Puja". It was also "Setrap" who guided Dorje Shugden to Sakya Trizin who enthroned him as a dharmapala. Sakya Trizin made Dorje Shugden a member of the "Gyalpo Sum" the three "King Spirits" that includes Setrap and Kache Marpo. So could someone explain to me how the wrathful emanation of "Tsangpa Karpo", Setrap saves Dorje Shugden only to have the Oracle of the peaceful emanation of "Condemn" him? It is not logical and I believe it can only mean one thing and these were totally faked trances.
Tsewang Namgyal came to India from Tibet in 1986. While growing up in Tibet he worked as a musician for the Chinese government until he retired. He came to India with this family on holidays (?) in 1986 and at the request from the Dalai Lama he did not return. He remained in India and became a refugee. He gave up his state pension and his home and belongs in China. He was now penny less with a wife and family to feed. How was he to feed and cloth his family? That was easy, the Dalai Lama and the then Tibetan Government in Exile made him a "Paid Employee". He was now the "Lamo Tsangpa" Oracle with all the rights and privileges that go with the title of "State Oracle". As long as he continued to please the Dalai Lama he would be a State Oracle and if did not please the Dalai Lama he would be FIRED. As long as the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle was anti Dorje Shugden he would continue to be in the employ of the Dalai Lama. Remember that State Oracles are in the employment of the Dalai Lama and in the past they were dismissed by the Dalai Lama if they displeased him. What would have happen to Tsewang Namgyal if say in 1995 he went into trance and announced that Dorje Shugden was in fact an enlightened being and that the Dalai Lama was wrong in his view of him? The answer is very simple the 14th Dalai Lama would have FIRED HIM. No more job and no more money you are now financial destroyed. Also Tsewang Namgyal's eldest son now has a great job as the personal photographer of the Dalai Lama.
Since his death in 2003 the dharmapala "Tsangpa Karpo" has not chosen any of Tsewang Namgyal's four sons as the next Lamo Tsangpa Oracle. WHY? I believe that the Tsangpa Karpo does not believe any of them are truly worthy of this position. The SINS OF THE FATHER are now visited upon the sons. As I have stated I believe that Tsewang Namgyal totally faked his trances and that "Tsangpa Karpo" never once entered him in his entire life. That is why when he was enthroned by the Dalai Lama in 1986 he never "Spoke". I believe that he was just like the Nechung and Tseringma Oracles, just "PAIDED PUPPET ORACLES" for the 14th Dalai Lama. If the Dalai Lama tells them that Dorje Shugden is evil then just like good puppets they announce that Dorje Shugden is evil. No more and no else. If they don't agree with the Dalai Lama they know that they will be FIRED and they will no longer have their "Job for life" as a State Oracle". I believe that the dharmapala Tsangpa Karpo could see into the future and knew what was in the heart of Tsewang Namgyal and that is why he never entered him.
So lets see what we have. The Nechung,Lamo Tsangpa and Tseringma Oracles are all paid puppets of the Dalai Lama and the Gadong Oracle never spoke in 29 years. Yet we are to believe that these four are all proper Oracles who have be properly enthroned by the 14th Dalai Lama.
I don't believe that for one second. DO YOU?"
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There are more comments about the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle if you go to the above link.
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Not even the late Gadong Oracle was a true Oracle.
The Gadong Oracle was the 2nd highest "State Oracle" and he was recognized as such by the Dalai Lama.
Yet in all his time as a "State Oracle" he could never take trance.
Here is an article I wrote in June 2016 about the late Gadong Oracle.
The Gadong Oracle passed away in 2015 and the Dharmpala "Shinjachen" has not accepted any of the sons of the late Gadong as a suitable replacement.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5602.msg62126#msg62126 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5602.msg62126#msg62126)
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The previous Gadong Oracle was never a true Oracle
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The Gadong Oracle position is listed as the second highest position within the rankings of Official State Oracles of Tibet. The Nechung is first and the Lamo Tsangpa is the third highest position.
The Gadong Oracle is possessed in trance by the Dharmapala "Shinjachen" who guards the "Southern Gate" in the Pehar mandala.
The previous Gadong Oracle, Tenzin Wangdak was officially enthroned by the Dalai Lama in 1986 and he passed away in 2015. His was a family lineage of Oracles passed down from father to son.
For 19 years he held this position but he had only one problem and that he never "Spoke" while in trance. That's right "Shinjachen" was never able to speak through this Dalai Lama chosen "Oracle".
Tenzin Wangdak even admits this in the DVD, "Oracles, Reflection of Self". You can find in on youtube. Go to the 29:30 minute marker and you can see him stated that "Shinjachen" has never spoken through him while he was in a so called trance.
H.E. Tsem Rinpoche did a youtube video titled "Taking Trances" which he went into great detail about the selection,training and testing for Oracles. The final testing is done by a qualified Lama who tests the candidate while in "Trance". He is tested to see if the deity he is taking trance of is a true deity or a demon.
It is only after passing all the requirements of retreats and formal testing that the person is given an official certificate signed and sealed by the Lama.
It appears that the previous Gadong Oracle would have failed every test if a proper testing procedure had been done. How could the Dalai Lama have chosen Tenzin Wangdak and official enthroned him as the second highest State Oracle of Tibet? Tenzin Wangdak had stated that "Shinjachen" never spoke thorough him once.
So how and why did the Dalai Lama chose this man?
What does this say about the Dalai Lama? Is this another example of the Dalai Lama making another official mistake in judgement?
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So it appears that Dorje Drakden, Shinjachen and Tsangpa Karpo have abandoned the three "State Oracles" of Tibet.
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Not even the late Gadong Oracle was a true Oracle.
The Gadong Oracle was the 2nd highest "State Oracle" and he was recognized as such by the Dalai Lama.
Yet in all his time as a "State Oracle" he could never take trance.
Here is an article I wrote in June 2016 about the late Gadong Oracle.
The Gadong Oracle passed away in 2015 and the Dharmpala "Shinjachen" has not accepted any of the sons of the late Gadong as a suitable replacement.
[url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5602.msg62126#msg62126[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=5602.msg62126#msg62126[/url])
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The previous Gadong Oracle was never a true Oracle
« on: June 26, 2016, 10:23:20 PM »
The Gadong Oracle position is listed as the second highest position within the rankings of Official State Oracles of Tibet. The Nechung is first and the Lamo Tsangpa is the third highest position.
The Gadong Oracle is possessed in trance by the Dharmapala "Shinjachen" who guards the "Southern Gate" in the Pehar mandala.
The previous Gadong Oracle, Tenzin Wangdak was officially enthroned by the Dalai Lama in 1986 and he passed away in 2015. His was a family lineage of Oracles passed down from father to son.
For 19 years he held this position but he had only one problem and that he never "Spoke" while in trance. That's right "Shinjachen" was never able to speak through this Dalai Lama chosen "Oracle".
Tenzin Wangdak even admits this in the DVD, "Oracles, Reflection of Self". You can find in on youtube. Go to the 29:30 minute marker and you can see him stated that "Shinjachen" has never spoken through him while he was in a so called trance.
H.E. Tsem Rinpoche did a youtube video titled "Taking Trances" which he went into great detail about the selection,training and testing for Oracles. The final testing is done by a qualified Lama who tests the candidate while in "Trance". He is tested to see if the deity he is taking trance of is a true deity or a demon.
It is only after passing all the requirements of retreats and formal testing that the person is given an official certificate signed and sealed by the Lama.
It appears that the previous Gadong Oracle would have failed every test if a proper testing procedure had been done. How could the Dalai Lama have chosen Tenzin Wangdak and official enthroned him as the second highest State Oracle of Tibet? Tenzin Wangdak had stated that "Shinjachen" never spoke thorough him once.
So how and why did the Dalai Lama chose this man?
What does this say about the Dalai Lama? Is this another example of the Dalai Lama making another official mistake in judgement?
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So it appears that Dorje Drakden, Shinjachen and Tsangpa Karpo have abandoned the three "State Oracles" of Tibet.
Thank you Harold Musetescu for sharing on the Nechung Oracles. Obviously the 14th Dalai Lama knows best since he is the one who installed them. It would be easier to have Oracles that agrees with him don't you think? But then again, if it is the grand plan of the "Divine Play" then the Dalai Lama and Nechung are cohorts to play the game in order for Dorje Shugden to rise beyond doubt of his ability to be the Protector of Lama Tsongkapa's precious lineage teachings. Well, as time has proven, the practice of Dorje Shugden has spread far and wide and instead of fear for the "demon", Dorje Shugden had proven himself to be the true compassionate protector that he is. Countless of people had benefitted from him and Dorje Shugden has never let the trust of anyone down as yet.
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One must look at the possibility that Dorje Drakden has abandoned the Nechung Oracle.
If the Nechung Oracle is now taking fake trances for the CTA he is now longer a worthy vessel for Dorje Drakden.
The only spirits in the Nechung Oracle may be the evil spirits of past and present members of the CTA.
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It was nice that Zasep Rinpoche shared with the readers his personal story with Dorje Shugden. It is very clear that both he and his family trusted Dorje Shugden a lot and they have great faith in him. Dorje Shugden was not only practiced by the monks, but it was also practiced by laypersons too.
Many Dorje Shugden lamas prefer to practice Dorje Shugden quietly. For Zasep Rinpoche to write it in his book, it is very unusual. But I think all Dorje Shugden practitioners will appreciate what he has written in his book especially the part on who saved the Dalai Lama. The information he gave is the same as what other people said, he can't be lying about how Dorje Shugden has saved the Dalai Lama. The CTA is definitely telling lies.
Zasep Rinpoche is very dedicated to spreading Dharma, he has raised a lot of funds to help the monasteries. If Dorje Shugden is a spirit, how can a spirit help someone achieves so much in his Dharma work? Evil spirit only brings bad things, how is that possible that Zasep Rinpoche is doing so many great works to benefit all sentient beings?
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It was nice that Zasep Rinpoche shared with the readers his personal story with Dorje Shugden. It is very clear that both he and his family trusted Dorje Shugden a lot and they have great faith in him. Dorje Shugden was not only practiced by the monks, but it was also practiced by laypersons too.
Many Dorje Shugden lamas prefer to practice Dorje Shugden quietly. For Zasep Rinpoche to write it in his book, it is very unusual. But I think all Dorje Shugden practitioners will appreciate what he has written in his book especially the part on who saved the Dalai Lama. The information he gave is the same as what other people said, he can't be lying about how Dorje Shugden has saved the Dalai Lama. The CTA is definitely telling lies.
Zasep Rinpoche is very dedicated to spreading Dharma, he has raised a lot of funds to help the monasteries. If Dorje Shugden is a spirit, how can a spirit help someone achieves so much in his Dharma work? Evil spirit only brings bad things, how is that possible that Zasep Rinpoche is doing so many great works to benefit all sentient beings?
That is why the only reason to explain all of the questions is that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being. He is a Buddha and an emanation of Buddha of Wisdom, Manjushri. Dorje Shugden has been the personal protector for many high lamas such as Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Lama Yeshe. Lama Yeshe has been saying that his success with the FPMT Buddhist centres are accredited to Dorje Shugden.
It was Dorje Shugden who made FPMT possible. Zasep Rinpoche has his own centre and Dorje Shugden being his personal protector, most probably Zasep Rinpoche had relied on Dorje Shugden for the success of his centre as well. Everyone that relied on Dorje Shugden has a success story to tell. Only when it comes to CTA, Dorje Shugden magically became an evil spirit that harms everyone while all along his track record is clean.
That is why I dont believe in CTA's lies about Dorje Shugden ban. There is no proof of what CTA had claimed about Dorje Shugden prior to the ban. All the evidence from pre-Dorje Shugden ban had proven that he is a great protector and we can definitely rely on them. If all these high lamas rely on this protector and got excellent results, he must be more than enough for a layperson like me.
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Not many people are as brave as Zasep Rinpoche to point out the Dorje Shugden ban is created by the CTA with a political agenda behind it. The ban was imposed 20 over years ago, it was very shocking for many people at that time. The ban has done a lot of damage to the Tibetan community, it causes disharmony and unity among the Tibetans.
After the ban was imposed, many friends and families were separated. Husband and wife split because one wanted to continue and the one won’t. Children whose families are Dorje Shugden followers would be bullied and isolated in the school. The business owners and monasteries put up signs to disallow the Dorje Shugden followers from going in. The monks are forced to swear when they are not supposed to.
The CTA did all this because they want to cover their failure in getting Tibet back. They need someone to take the blame. The fact is, the CTA has never been serious about the free Tibet movement. They are making use of the situation to get financial aids from the west, they are very selfish.
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No matter how hard the Tibetan Leadership wanted to twist the truth, time will tell. Who would choose to believe them instead of erudite masters like Trijang Rinpoche and Zasep Rinpoche? There are more Trijang Rinpoche and Zasep Rinpoche out there who will reveal the truth soon. There is nothing the Tibetan Leadership can do. Many videos and books being published about the escape and how Dorje Shugden was consulted at the wish of the Dalai Lama who trusted Dorje Shugden completely.
On the side note, I would like to share an interesting alternate account as to how the Great Fifth Dalai Lama enthroned Dorje Shugden. The traditional account tells of the Great Fifth Dalai Lama had remorse after Mindrolling Terchen the Nyingma lama and his group failed to gain results from performing all the fire pujas. So the Great Fifth Dalai Lama enthroned Dorje Shugden realising he was not an angry spirit.
In the below account by Kangyur Rinpoche, however, it was that the Great Fifth Dalai Lama had a vision of an almighty Dorje Shugden pressing down on the Potala. It was due to that then the Great Fifth Dalai Lama enthroned Dorje Shugden as a Dharmapala.
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As for the final events that led up to his reconciliation of the events regarding Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen and his recognition of Dorje Shugden as a protector, Kangyur Rinpoche gives the following account:
The Fifth Dalai was on retreat in the Potala when the Potala began to shake. When the Potala began to shake Dorje Shugden had his right foot pressing on the top of the “mi drug” boulder mountain [smi drug rdza ri] and his left foot pressing on the top of Drepung Gepel mountain. His pressed down on the Potala with his trident... The Fifth Dalai Lama felt remorseful and confessed to Dorje Shugden. He founded Trode Khangsar in which he placed a statue of Dorje Shugden. He then wrote Manjushri’s Own Words [a famous Lam-Rim text], and offered it to Panchen Rinpoche who was almost 100 years old. Panchen Rinpoche said, “I am a happy old monk, now by this the Gelug tradition will flourish” and he passed away soon after.
Source: http://www.dorjeshugdenhistory.org/trode-khangsar-8.html (http://www.dorjeshugdenhistory.org/trode-khangsar-8.html)
Interesting to read from Zasep Rinpoche on HH the Dalai escape which is the same as what Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche said where Dorje Shugden is the one that safe His Holiness by advising him to escape from Tibet. If there is only one person talk about it, it could be hard to believe but now more and more people speak up based on their experience which mean it’s the truth. It’s sad to see how the fact being twisted by saying Nechung is the one that help His Holiness the Dalai Lama escape from Tibet where else Nechung is the want actually asked His Holiness the Dalai Lama to stay! Imagine what would happen if His Holiness listen to Nechung? One more sadden issue is that after Dorje Shugden has help and safe His Holiness, His Holiness turn out to ban Dorje Shugden practice. This really sound so unjust and how could Dorje Shugden being right for the past 400 years and now suddenly be wrong? If Dorje Shugden can be wrong now which mean all the high lamas can be wrong too including His Holiness and who can be right now? It doesn’t make sense.
I’m glad to read what Zasep Rinpoche stated here as the truth will always revealed.
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It is impossible that Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit who will harm the practitioners. Many high lamas rely on him and propitiate him for their spiritual work. Lamas such as Pabongka Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche and many more all took rebirth in a human form again to continue to spread Dharma. If Dorje Shugden really is a spirit, these lamas would have gone down to the 3 realms already.
For CTA to say Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit and is sabotaging the free Tibet movement does not make sense at all. Why would Dorje Shugden want to sabotage the free Tibet movement? As a Dharma protector, he is more concerned of someone's spiritual practice than secular matters. His manifestation is to bring benefits to people, not to harm. The CTA just wants to use Dorje Shugden as a scapegoat to cover their failure.
Zasep Rinpoche wrote very clearly in his book the reason why the CTA imposed the ban. Zasep Rinpoche is a high lama, he will not tell lie, there is also no reason for him to tell lie. Besides, he is not the only lama who said it was Dorje Shugden who saved the 14th Dalai Lama, Trijang Rinpoche also told the same story. I don't believe these 2 high lamas will tell lie, they are merely presenting the fact to us. The CTA is a liar, sooner or later the truth will reveal itself.
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How nice to see another High lama stand up and defend the practice of Dorje Shugden. Nowadays, it is rare to find someone to actually stands up to CTA and tell them that Dorje Shugden is actually a Buddha and his practice is very beneficial to whoever that stumbled upon him.
We need more lamas like Zasep Rinpoche to talk more about Dorje Shugden and to tell the Tibetan leadership off for labeling Dorje Shugden as a spirit and his practice is bad for us. There are so many high lamas that use Dorje Shugden as their main protector. If Dorje Shugden is good enough for these high lamas, I am sure that he is good enough for us as well.
That is why Dorje Shugden is not a spirit and he is definitely Buddha which is a conclusion that derived from carefully examining the traits of the practice and the people who are practicing him. He is an enlightened Buddha and not a mere spirit.
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How nice to see another High lama stand up and defend the practice of Dorje Shugden. Nowadays, it is rare to find someone to actually stands up to CTA and tell them that Dorje Shugden is actually a Buddha and his practice is very beneficial to whoever that stumbled upon him.
We need more lamas like Zasep Rinpoche to talk more about Dorje Shugden and to tell the Tibetan leadership off for labeling Dorje Shugden as a spirit and his practice is bad for us. There are so many high lamas that use Dorje Shugden as their main protector..
Yes Alex I totally agree with your statement.
One Lama that we all need to stand up publicly is the current Trijang Rinpoche.
Why the SILENCE from the present day Trijang Rinpoche??