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Does the decline number of Tibetan refugees in India say something? Especially in the news it say, some have returned to China.
Below is the news
Written by Rahul Tripathi | New Delhi | Updated: September 11, 2018 3:23:54 am
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/tibetan-refugees-down-from-1-5-lakh-to-85000-in-7-years-5349587/
A sharp decline has been recorded in the number of Tibetan refugees in India — from 1.5 lakh to 85,000 in the last seven years — with a large number either migrating to the US or returning to China/Tibet, according to the government’s advisor on Tibet Affairs Amitabh Mathur.
“Their numbers could be approximately 85,000, but we will get the exact figure once all of them are registered online. In the past two years, the government has simplified the process and made everything accessible on the internet,” Mathur told The Indian Express.
As per a 2011 reply by then MoS (Home) M Ramachandran before Parliament, the number of Tibetan refugees staying in 45 settlement camps across “the country was 1.5 lakh”. The fall in numbers, officials said, could be due to various factors including absence of a national refugee policy.
“Tibetans are recognised as ‘foreigners’, not refugees, because of which they cannot own any property here, neither can they apply for government jobs. After 2014, only qualified professionals from among the Tibetan refugees are permitted to take jobs in private and non-government sectors,” said an MHA official.
Speaking to The Indian Express, spokesperson for Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), Sonam Dagpo said, “The number of Tibetans going abroad has increased. The birth rate among Tibetans (in India) has also declined. However, Tibetans in exile in India are close to 1 lakh. Those who may have taken Indian citizenship may be less than 100 in number.”
According to MHA’s 2009 figures, the major concentration of Tibetan refugees is in Karnataka (44,468), Himachal Pradesh (21,980), Arunachal Pradesh (7,530), Uttarakhand (8,545), West Bengal (5,785) and Jammu and Kashmir (6,920). Tibetan refugees began pouring into India in the wake of the flight of the Dalai Lama from Tibet in 1959.
Mathur, who took over as interlocutor in 2015, said the government had introduced measures to “smoothen” the stay of Tibetans in India. “Tibetan migrants who are registered online are granted residential certificate for 5 years and such certificates may be renewed for five years on each occasion as and when applicable. For visits abroad, one-year multiple entry return visa is being issued by FRRO. In case migrants are shifting, they may intimate online, avoiding the need for visits to the centre and delays in manual transfer of registration,” he said.
When asked about granting Indian passports to Tibetan refugees on court’s direction, Mathur said, “If they become Indian citizens, they will not be entitled to benefits of relief and rehabilitation.”
The government has listed six conditions for Tibetans (by birth) to obtain Indian citizenship.
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Of course do the Tibetans run away from the control of the CTA who only shows off and uses the money meant for the Tibetans for themselves!
What else is there to do after 60 years of failure from the CTA who only looks for scapegoats to hide behind.
Good that it is more and more publicised that the Tibetans prefer to stay in China instead of being a refugee with no rights and no hope...
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The decrease in the number of Tibetans in India shows very clearly that the Tibetans are not putting more hope in the Free Tibet movement. It has been 60 years and there is no progress, how many more 60 years does one have? People just have to move on.
As more Tibetans in India are leaving India, there are also fewer Tibetans coming from Tibet to India. The CTA must be very worried now because as the number of refugees decreases, they will have more difficulty in getting the funds from their sponsors. In order to protect them own pockets, they refuse to let the Tibetans taking Indian citizenship.
In reality, the CTA is not very keen on the free Tibet movement. They are only using it to take money from the sponsors. They have been surviving on easy money, why would they want to work hard? They know very well that if Tibet is independent, they will not have the capability to manage it. Therefore, they will not work hard to make free Tibet a success.
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As expected, the number of Tibetans in India will only drop and one-day CTA will have to disband because there will be no more Tibetan for CTA to control. CTA will have to close down and the Tibetan community can have more peace. When CTA is around, there is never peace. They create so much trouble for the Tibetans because the strategy they are using to unite the Tibetans is divide and conquer.
They are afraid that one sect of Buddhism or any group of Tibetans can gain power that can overthrow them and take charge. That is why they created issue such as 3 Karmapas and Dorje Shugden ban to mess with the Tibetans and make them fight within their group and once they are broken into smaller groups, CTA can rule over them.
Old Tibetans that came from Tibet dies off while new young Tibetans escaped to other countries to fight for their future. The number of Tibetans in India will keep on reducing. That is why they are desperate to contain the Tibetans that is left in India. Even when India made the process of becoming an Indian citizen easier, they purposely made it harder on their side to prevent them from losing more Tibetans. CTA operate out of their selfishness and not the welfare of Tibetans. This is for sure.
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If you have a Sikyong like Lobsang Sangay, the decrease is a given. In his recent tour to Canada, he said,
“25 percent in the social media are Chinese agents deliberately spreading misinformation and rumours to create frictions in the Tibetan community. Another 25per cent are professional critics and they have nothing but criticisms no matter what CTA does. You wonder where do they get time and energy to be always present and always critical in the social media. Another 25 percent are ignorants who are uninformed.
“Final 25 percent are socially responsible critics. Even when they write there is respect and substance in their views. Therefore 75 per cent of what is shared and read in social media is useless.”
Not only have we no idea how Sangay got these figures but the first 25% sounds more like what CTA is doing with the Shugden ban while the second 25% sounds like Robert Thurman and his trolls team are doing on Twitter.
Instead of the 26-city tour, the CTA should just save the money and find ways to have a dialogue with China. Isn't it apparent that no country would actually put themselves in economic danger or be enemies with China for the CTA?
This article made the visit sound like a big deal, but in reality, no other media has picked this up, even Toronto local paper. What kind of tangible results can anyone expect for such a China-bashing trip?
CTA President addresses Tibetan community in Toronto
Toronto: President Dr Lobsang Sangay, Central Tibetan Administration was warmly welcomed by members of Tibetan community at the Tibetan Canadian Culture Center in Toronto. President was accompanied by Representative Ngodup Tsering, Office of Tibet, Washington DC.
The Tibetan Canadian Culture Center was jampacked with Tibetans and supporters.
Informing about his 12 cities and 26-day tour advocating for Tibet, Dr. Sangay felt that his efforts are bringing tangible results – Many leaders are boldly hosting him besides tremendous pressure from China; and for the first time, the White House and the State Department have allowed publishing of news of their officials meeting with the President. Moreover, he has been participating and speaking at the Halifax Security Forum for the last many years to raise Tibet related issues and now, the world leaders are beginning to talk more about China in the Forum.
He said that when China is trying to extend their influence in the world by Belt and Road Initiative, China2025 Plan, developing Artificial Intelligence and acquiring of intellectual property, Tibetan should ever be united in its fight and refrain from infighting, baseless and unnecessary criticism among ourselves.
Advising the public to be socially responsible in sharing information via social media, he said, “75 per cent of what is shared and read in social media is useless. We should be aware of such facts and act responsibly.”
“25 percent in the social media are Chinese agents deliberately spreading misinformation and rumours to create frictions in the Tibetan community. Another 25per cent are professional critics and they have nothing but criticisms no matter what CTA does. You wonder where do they get time and energy to be always present and always critical in the social media. Another 25 percent are ignorants who are uninformed.
“Final 25 percent are socially responsible critics. Even when they write there is respect and substance in their views. Therefore 75 per cent of what is shared and read in social media is useless.”
Dr. Sangay cautioned the Tibetans that providing information about citizens of your country to other country is a crime referring to the Tibetan man in Sweden who was charged with espionage in April 2018. He added that the authorities are well aware of such act and such individual could be caught anytime.
Representative Ngodup Tsering in his address, lauded the arrangements done for the program by the Canadian Tibetan Association of Ontario and thanked the executive members for their effort. He expressed his happiness over grant announcement of $5.4 million education funding from Canada to Central Tibetan Administration which has realized under the leadership of Sikyong Lobsang Sangay. He also reminded the audience of the importance of education and Teaching Tibetan language to Tibetan Children.
This is the second leg of the President’s Canada tour. He will speak at the University of Toronttomorrowow on Party-less and Global-A Case of Tibetan Democracy in Exile.
-Filed by Office of Tibet, DC
https://tibet.net/2018/11/cta-president-addresses-tibetan-community-in-toronto/
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The number will continue to drop. It has been for about a year. It's better to stay in Tibet with huge economic development than risk your life across the Himalaya to be ruled by the Central Tibetan Administration. Many Tibetan refugees are leaving Dharamsala to Europe, USA and other parts of the world too.
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The number will continue to drop. It has been for about a year. It's better to stay in Tibet with huge economic development than risk your life across the Himalaya to be ruled by the Central Tibetan Administration. Many Tibetan refugees are leaving Dharamsala to Europe, USA and other parts of the world too.
I would also expect the number of Tibetans in the exile community in India will continue to drop. Fewer and fewer Tibetans are leaving Tibet to come to India. It actually doesn't make sense anymore to escape from Tibet. The living condition and standard in Tibet have improved so much since the '80s. Life in Tibet is very comfortable now, it will be stupid to come to a foreign land that they are not familiar with and become a stateless refugee.
I think the CTA and Lobsang Sangay are quite worried about the dropping in the number of Tibetans in India. The fewer the Tibetan refugees, the fewer donations they will be getting. This is one of the reasons why they make it so difficult for the Tibetans in India to integrate. If the number of Tibetans in the exile community keeps dropping, eventually there is no need for an administration anymore. The CTA will have to be dissolved.
The Tibetans in India don't see any hope in the Free Tibet movement, anyone will lose hope after 60 years of waiting. Since the CTA is not doing anything for the Tibetans or give a proposal to the Tibetans on their future direction, they will just leave. No one wants to sit around and keep waiting. The Tibetans have totally lost their hope in the CTA.
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You know, one thing that stands out so starkly is the fact that CTA is doing everything and everywhere except to confront their failures. Why are they so scared to confront China? If really shows that CTA knows that they had committed many shameful deeds that they have nothing to offer on the negotiation table to have their demands met. So they rather the Dalai Lama's wish to return to China goes unfulfilled rather than confront their shame and ego. All the sponsors of the Dalai Lama should work together to bring CTA under control. Otherwise the Dalai Lama will never ever get his wish to return to Tibet.
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You know, one thing that stands out so starkly is the fact that CTA is doing everything and everywhere except to confront their failures. Why are they so scared to confront China? If really shows that CTA knows that they had committed many shameful deeds that they have nothing to offer on the negotiation table to have their demands met. So they rather the Dalai Lama's wish to return to China goes unfulfilled rather than confront their shame and ego. All the sponsors of the Dalai Lama should work together to bring CTA under control. Otherwise the Dalai Lama will never ever get his wish to return to Tibet.
CTA is obviously trying to delay their communication with China because they know they will not be able to get independence from China. They had been fighting for their independence for 60 years and if they still can't get any progress, they will not look good in front of their sponsors and supporters. That is why they rather go around the world talk bad about China and how they supress human rights to push all the blame to China.
Now that Mr Lobsang Sangay had announced that Tibetan cause will go on for another 50 years. This is totally a coward move to give themselves more time to enjoy their life and hide their failures. Most of the CTA members will not be even alive after 50 years. With this, they successful push the responsibility to younger Tibetans who will have to take on all the blame due to the current CTA.
His Holiness the Dalai Lama is clever to approach China with a more possible solution with is autonomy in China, Umaylam. This is a more possible way because China will definitely not let go of Tibet now when they had invested so much into developing it. If CTA wants to get back to Tibet, they have to support His Holiness with his wish and stop supporting Rangzen which is the independence of Tibet which is impossible anymore.
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There are many reports since a few months ago. It must be very bad. Below is a short excerpt of Indian media reporting about this situation.
The search for home: Why Tibetans are leaving India
For decades, Dharamshala has been the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile and a mini-Tibet in India. But now, the Tibetans are leaving.
INDIA Updated: Apr 05, 2018 09:37 IST
Everyone has a number to offer. Six for Kunsang, four for Lobsang, 13 for Yangzom.
Everyone also has stories to go with the number. Yangzom offers one about her friend, Thinley (Name changed). A decade after fleeing Tibet to come to India, he started getting desperate to return. A teaching job in Mcleodganj and a circle of friends notwithstanding, the separation from his family in Tibet had started overwhelming him. With the Chinese authorities not relenting, the only way he could go back was to cross over into China, clandestinely, from Nepal. He tried doing exactly that, only to be arrested by Chinese authorities and deported back to India.
Had he been successful, Thinley would have been Yangzom Tsering’s 14th Tibetan friend to have left India in the last few years.
Read the full story here. it doesn't paint a nice picture like how Lobsang Sangay wants us to believe. I think they should report how many Tibetans in exile are actually leaving and going back to Tibet, China!
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html)
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There are many reports since a few months ago. It must be very bad. Below is a short excerpt of Indian media reporting about this situation.
The search for home: Why Tibetans are leaving India
For decades, Dharamshala has been the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile and a mini-Tibet in India. But now, the Tibetans are leaving.
INDIA Updated: Apr 05, 2018 09:37 IST
Everyone has a number to offer. Six for Kunsang, four for Lobsang, 13 for Yangzom.
Everyone also has stories to go with the number. Yangzom offers one about her friend, Thinley (Name changed). A decade after fleeing Tibet to come to India, he started getting desperate to return. A teaching job in Mcleodganj and a circle of friends notwithstanding, the separation from his family in Tibet had started overwhelming him. With the Chinese authorities not relenting, the only way he could go back was to cross over into China, clandestinely, from Nepal. He tried doing exactly that, only to be arrested by Chinese authorities and deported back to India.
Had he been successful, Thinley would have been Yangzom Tsering’s 14th Tibetan friend to have left India in the last few years.
Read the full story here. it doesn't paint a nice picture like how Lobsang Sangay wants us to believe. I think they should report how many Tibetans in exile are actually leaving and going back to Tibet, China!
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html)
The CTA is not capable and does not have the intention to give the Tibetans a better future, many Tibetans now see it that's why they are leaving India. In the past, the Tibetans try to cross the border to come to Nepal. Now many Tibetans are crossing the border trying to go back to Tibet. This shows that life in Tibet is so much better than in India.
The Chinese government treats the citizens equally. Everyone is given the same opportunity whether in education or in the job market. Special training and programs are launched to help people to acquire more skills and be more competitive. Many Tibetans in Tibet are living out of poverty now as a result of the effort put in by the Chinese government.
The CTA has not really done much to improve the lives of the Tibetans in exile. After 60 years they are still refugees and Lobsang Sangay expects them to remain as refugees for another 50 years. A cause that takes 110 years to be successful is actually a failure. At the end of the day, the CTA really does not want to free Tibet and give the Tibetans a better future. They just want to make use of the refugee status of the Tibetans to beg for free money and make their wallet fatter. The CTA is no different from the old Tibetan government in Tibet.
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There are many reports since a few months ago. It must be very bad. Below is a short excerpt of Indian media reporting about this situation.
The search for home: Why Tibetans are leaving India
For decades, Dharamshala has been the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile and a mini-Tibet in India. But now, the Tibetans are leaving.
INDIA Updated: Apr 05, 2018 09:37 IST
Everyone has a number to offer. Six for Kunsang, four for Lobsang, 13 for Yangzom.
Everyone also has stories to go with the number. Yangzom offers one about her friend, Thinley (Name changed). A decade after fleeing Tibet to come to India, he started getting desperate to return. A teaching job in Mcleodganj and a circle of friends notwithstanding, the separation from his family in Tibet had started overwhelming him. With the Chinese authorities not relenting, the only way he could go back was to cross over into China, clandestinely, from Nepal. He tried doing exactly that, only to be arrested by Chinese authorities and deported back to India.
Had he been successful, Thinley would have been Yangzom Tsering’s 14th Tibetan friend to have left India in the last few years.
Read the full story here. it doesn't paint a nice picture like how Lobsang Sangay wants us to believe. I think they should report how many Tibetans in exile are actually leaving and going back to Tibet, China!
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/the-search-for-home-why-tibetans-are-leaving-india/story-fs6G56W52aPEjkFPbS5yYK.html)
It is obvious that the situation of Tibetans is much better in Tibet now compared to India. China had invested alot of money into Tibet to make it a better place and also improving the lives of fellow Tibetans. They even offer free self-help classes that teach Tibetans a skill that they can use to make a living in Tibet. In a recent report, the % of poverty in Lhasa had reduced from 25% to 7%! That is an awesome job from China government! They are now extending the anti-poverty effort to other regions as well.
On the other hand, the situation of Tibetan settlements in India has not improved much. It is still the same and Tibetans are still desperately trying to flee to foreign countries to fight for a better future. CTA is still selfish and corrupted with mortgages being paid off in a suspiciously short amount of time in foreign countries. There is no doubt that Tibetans will eventually realise that staying in Tibet is not as bad as the CTA claims as long as they play along with the rules that China has set. This is the same to anyone in the world where they have to follow the rules that are set by the government.
There is nothing wrong for a government to set some rules that the people have to follow and definitely not a breach of human rights. CTA is making a big deal out of it and dramatised it alot to make China looks like a bad guy when they are condemning those people who do not agree to their policies or His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Obviously, CTA is being a double standard here as usual.
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Now that there are only 85,000 Tibetans living in India, will the west still allocate as much fund as before to the CTA? After 60 years of financial support, the CTA has not shown any positive results in freeing Tibet or the preservation of Tibetan culture. The Tibetan community is breaking apart due to the many conflicts created by the CTA. They have proven themselves to be a failure.
Not only that, but the Karmapa has also run away, more people are going against the CTA or lose confidence in them. The Karmapa is very concerned of the preservation and the survival of Karma Kagyu lineage that is why he took the decision to leave India and meet up with the other Karmapa. He knew it very well that the CTA will not resolve this issue.
With the reducing number of Tibetans in the community and loss of confidence of the Tibetans in the CTA, the CTA will have more obstacles. They will slowly lose support from the west and their financial support will be reduced too. This is already the case as the fund given to the CTA by the US has decreased quite a lot in the past year. The CTA will not be able to survive for too long, they will collapse very soon.
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Now that there are only 85,000 Tibetans living in India, will the west still allocate as much fund as before to the CTA? After 60 years of financial support, the CTA has not shown any positive results in freeing Tibet or the preservation of Tibetan culture. The Tibetan community is breaking apart due to the many conflicts created by the CTA. They have proven themselves to be a failure.
Not only that, but the Karmapa has also run away, more people are going against the CTA or lose confidence in them. The Karmapa is very concerned of the preservation and the survival of Karma Kagyu lineage that is why he took the decision to leave India and meet up with the other Karmapa. He knew it very well that the CTA will not resolve this issue.
With the reducing number of Tibetans in the community and loss of confidence of the Tibetans in the CTA, the CTA will have more obstacles. They will slowly lose support from the west and their financial support will be reduced too. This is already the case as the fund given to the CTA by the US has decreased quite a lot in the past year. The CTA will not be able to survive for too long, they will collapse very soon.
Can you believe it? There is only 80 Tibetans came from Tibet to India in the year 2018. This is so obvious that CTA failed. Now that even Tibetans who are in Tibet willing to stay with China because they know that they will be in a worse situation if they go to CTA in India. This is a strong proof that China is indeed better than CTA in governing Tibet.
China had really invested a lot into making Tibet a better place. They have invested in building infrastructure in Tibet and also the welfare of Tibetans. China even invested in courses to educate the Tibetans a skill for them to survive. This is how thoughtful they are. They also invested in spiritual places despite them being an atheist government.
China also started a poverty fighting programme and it has been proven to be successful. The percentage of poverty in Tibet has reduced from 25% to 7% in 2018. I think China is doing a very good job that CTA had proven to fail in. Tibet is much better to be under China.
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Even though the Tibetans might be the luckiest refugees in the world, they are also the most unfortunate ones in the world. They are allowed to have their own government in India who is supposed to take care of their welfare but their government only exploit them. The CTA has no intention to give a better future to the Tibetans and they want the Tibetans to continue to remain as refugees so that the CTA can get free money from the donors.
For the past 60 years, the CTA has received millions and millions of dollars from the west but no one knows where did the money go. No other refugees in the world have received so much financial aid. Most of the refugees after a few years would have been accepted by different countries and given the citizenship but for the Tibetans, this is just a dream. The CTA does not want them to become a citizen of another country.
No one likes to remain as refugees or someone without an identity but the CTA does not care. Many Tibetans have realised how the CTA is using them, as a result, they migrate to overseas, go back to Tibet or just integrate and become the citizen of India. As more negative news about the CTA surfaces, they will lose more credibility and trust from the people. Sooner or later, the CTA will collapse, they might not even survive for the next 5 years!
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The number of Tibetan in exile are decreasing and soon the number will hit zero and Tibetan leadership will have to find a new group of people that are willing to subject to their exploitation and still loyal to them. It is already unbelievable that Tibetan leadership still manage to exist even after they lost their country. They are the only government in the whole world that existed without a physical country.
Over the years, they have failed their promise to bring Tibetans back to Tibet over and over again. The Tibetans in exile are disappointed and start to fight for their future elsewhere. Many of them migrate overseas and many of them have better or successful lives than those who stayed back in India.
The old generation that escaped from Tibet is dying because it has been 60 years since they fled Tibet. Soon, the Tibetans that are fighting for Tibetan cause will be a generation that never even stepped foot in Tibet before. They are just a bunch of youngsters who are brainwashed by the Tibetan leadership to do their bidding including killing themselves. Soon, Tibetan leadership who exploits everything around them for their own benefit will run out of Tibetans to exploit because the world is moving on and it is foolish to think Tibetans will forever be the donkey that listens to every word they say.
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The CTA will not get stronger but only weaker as time passes. It is amazing how they can survive for the past 60 years. People support their cause not because they really care about human rights but because they want to create problem and obstacle to China so China will not grow rapidly and become the most powerful country in the world.
The western power has always found China to be a threat to them. For the past centuries, the western power has colonised many Asian countries and exploited the local and natural resources to make themselves rich. If China becomes strong, it means the whole Asia region will become strong. The west will lose their bargaining power and they have to kowtow to China. This is something they don't want to.
Therefore, in the effort to jeopardise China, Tibet issue is the best tool the west can use to create trouble for China. The west has given a lot of money to the CTA hoping that they can continue to create trouble for China. The CTA does create some degree of trouble but not enough to create huge unrest in China. As the economy in the west is getting weaker now, they will not have more money to invest in the CTA. Very soon the CTA will become history.
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The CTA will not get stronger but only weaker as time passes. It is amazing how they can survive for the past 60 years. People support their cause not because they really care about human rights but because they want to create problem and obstacle to China so China will not grow rapidly and become the most powerful country in the world.
The western power has always found China to be a threat to them. For the past centuries, western power has colonized many Asian countries and exploited the local and natural resources to make themselves rich. If China becomes strong, it means the whole Asia region will become strong. The west will lose their bargaining power and they have to kowtow to China. This is something they don't want to.
Therefore, in the effort to jeopardize China, Tibet issue is the best tool the west can use to create trouble for China. The west has given a lot of money to the CTA hoping that they can continue to create trouble for China. The CTA does create some degree of trouble but not enough to create huge unrest in China. As the economy in the west is getting weaker now, they will not have more money to invest in the CTA. Very soon the CTA will become history.
This is an extremely good sign that Free Tibet movement is already declining and soon it will only be a stupid idea that can never be achieved. Now that China has already invested too much into Tibet, there is no chance for China to give Independent. It is far too late to fight for Tibet's independence because it has been 60 years already. Tibetan leadership should had put in much more effort in the earlier days.
Tibetans in Tibet are certainly having a better life compared to Tibetans who are in India right now. Chinese government treats the Tibetans in Tibet so well that they manage to eradicate poverty down to 7% and soon they will be able to help everybody to get out of poverty. Seem like Tibetans are in much better hands now compared to the time when Tibetan leadership is leading Tibet.
Soon, there will be no more Tibetan in exile for the Tibetan leadership to use and manipulate. they will have to close down and that will be the best scenario for everyone because the very existence of CTA is to harm and never to benefit the people around them. That is why they could not even bother to fight for Tibet’s independence. All they do is some surface work to look good but there is nothing inside.
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Even though the Tibetans might be the luckiest refugees in the world, they are also the most unfortunate ones in the world. They are allowed to have their own government in India who is supposed to take care of their welfare but their government only exploit them. The CTA has no intention to give a better future to the Tibetans and they want the Tibetans to continue to remain as refugees so that the CTA can get free money from the donors.
For the past 60 years, the CTA has received millions and millions of dollars from the west but no one knows where did the money go. No other refugees in the world have received so much financial aid. Most of the refugees after a few years would have been accepted by different countries and given the citizenship but for the Tibetans, this is just a dream. The CTA does not want them to become a citizen of another country.
No one likes to remain as refugees or someone without an identity but the CTA does not care. Many Tibetans have realised how the CTA is using them, as a result, they migrate to overseas, go back to Tibet or just integrate and become the citizen of India. As more negative news about the CTA surfaces, they will lose more credibility and trust from the people. Sooner or later, the CTA will collapse, they might not even survive for the next 5 years!
CTA has not done anything beneficial to the Tibetans in exile community or Tibetans in Tibet for the past 60 years. They only create pain and suffering to the normal Tibetans while they are the only people who benefitted financially. The Tibetan leadership only care for themselves, this is the culture, it has been like this since in the old Tibet days.
For the Tibetans in the exile community, they have the first-hand experience with the CTA and it is not pleasant. 20 years ago, CTA imposed the Dorje Shugden ban. The ban did not bring Tibetans closer or more united, it actually creates so much tension in the Tibetan community. The ban also did not to improve the progress of the Tibet cause. In short, the ban only harms the Tibetan community than doing any good.
If CTA is a good government, they will evaluate the result of the ban and it is very clear to see the ban brings no benefit but harm. They will immediately lift the ban, resolve the conflict and unite the Tibetans. As long as they don't do that, more Tibetans will leave the exile community as they have completely lost their confidence in CTA.
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The drop in numbers is not really a shocking news. The drop is totally reasonable because the Tibetans government has not been doing a good job ever since they set foot in India. It has been 60 years since China's invasion and CTA has not been able to make any significant progress on getting back their country. Tibetans are getting hopeless and desperate and many of them chose to abandon their government.
The old Tibetans will die and the young Tibetans are leaving India to foreign countries. Many young Tibetans had proven to the world that with the proper education and chance, they are able to excel in whatever they want to do. The reason why they are failing in India is because of their government are not giving them the chance and also the help.
Now that China had transformed Tibet so much, it is actually not so bad for them to go back to Tibet after all. Soon, when Tibetans in exile are all gone, CTA will have to close down. That is the best thing ever to happened to the CTA because they are just a nuisance to the Tibetans. They are not helping their own people at all and keep creating problems for them for their own benefit. It is better for CTA to not exist at all.
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The drop in numbers is not really a shocking news. The drop is totally reasonable because the Tibetans government has not been doing a good job ever since they set foot in India. It has been 60 years since China's invasion and CTA has not been able to make any significant progress on getting back their country. Tibetans are getting hopeless and desperate and many of them chose to abandon their government.
The old Tibetans will die and the young Tibetans are leaving India to foreign countries. Many young Tibetans had proven to the world that with the proper education and chance, they are able to excel in whatever they want to do. The reason why they are failing in India is because of their government are not giving them the chance and also the help.
Now that China had transformed Tibet so much, it is actually not so bad for them to go back to Tibet after all. Soon, when Tibetans in exile are all gone, CTA will have to close down. That is the best thing ever to happened to the CTA because they are just a nuisance to the Tibetans. They are not helping their own people at all and keep creating problems for them for their own benefit. It is better for CTA to not exist at all.
You are right! China has invested so much into Tibet to improve the lives of the people there. Life is now so much easier and the possibilities of ownership are the norm. Feudalism under the Tibetan Leaders is contrary to what Tibetans are enjoying under China's rule. It is really not surprising anymore that the refugees in camps are getting lesser and lesser, as more migrate to other countries and lesser Tibetans are leaving China. Who in their right mind would go into poverty rather than remain in the richness of China?
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The fact that the population of Tibetan refugees in India is dwindling shows that there is no real future for Tibetans who wish to remain the refugees. In fact, by remaining refugees, they became just objects for the CTA to parade to the sponsors to attract more donation.
The Tibetans should make a choice either to go back to China or assimilate with the local population should they wish to live outside China. By doing so, they can at least move on with their lives with dignity.
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The drop of the Tibetans in the exile community is a clear indication that:
1. Tibetans have lost their hope in the CTA and they have moved on to migrate to other countries, became Indian citizens or they have returned to Tibet.
2. Tibetans in Tibet knows that life in Tibet is much better than in India now, they are not so stupid to give up their comfortable lives to come to suffer in India.
3. The Dalai Lama has lost his political influence on the Tibetans. People may still respect him as a high lama but not in secular matters.
As the number of Tibetans is dropping, the CTA will soon lose its function as the leadership because there will be not enough people to manage. When this happens, the CTA will have to dissolve and no one will suffer anymore.
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Soon there will be no Tibetans for the Tibetan government to rule over and they will have to close down. It will not be long considering the amount of Tibetans leaving India to Tibet or foreign countries. Tibetans are able to see that it will be better for them to leave their government. Tibet has been great under the ruling of China and Tibetans there has stop escaping to India. They see the benefit of staying back in Tibet and the bad condition that they will have to face in India. Tibetans are also leaving for foreign countries and a lot of them are already successful in building up a new life. There is really no point in staying with the Tibetan government because there will be nothing for them in the end.
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The Tibetans should make a choice either to go back to China or assimilate with the local population should they wish to live outside China. By doing so, they can at least move on with their lives with dignity.
In fact the Tibetans have made their choice. The drastic drop in the number of refugees is a big proof. With less and less Tibetans coming from Tibet, and more and more Tibetans migrating out, what is there still left for the CTA? What are they still fighting for? What fake promises can they give now to cheat on their own people? Tibetans might be innocent, but they are not stupid. The number is a big disapproval to the CTA and it's irreversible.
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The article below speaks about Tibetans who have returned to Tibet on their own. They returned to the motherland and happy to be monitored by the Chinese. These Tibetans are known as 'returnees' and are said to have an advantage over those who remain in India or those who have never left Tibet. This is a very good incentive scheme given by the Chinese.
What struck me was there was no mention of the Dalai Lama which clearly shows that the new generation is just looking for careers and livelihoods.
Excerpt:
"Akam has partnered with three friends to set up a restaurant and is doing well for himself. He doesn’t regret leaving India, where, according to him, opportunities for Tibetans are limited.
The reverse is also true. Many young people head to India in hope of a better life, but are bitterly disappointed like a 20- something man -- we will call him Gyantse – I met in Dharamsala in 2015.
Gyantse was a receptionist at a hotel and also an assistant to a travel agent. Money was poor but there was little he could do. He had dropped out of the Tibetan Transit School (TTS) in Dharamsala, set up to help the young make the transition and pick up livelihood skills".
Read the full article here https://www.firstpost.com/blogs/world-blogs/tibetan-returnees-journey-home-6283091.html (https://www.firstpost.com/blogs/world-blogs/tibetan-returnees-journey-home-6283091.html)
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Seriously, who still want to believe in CTA? For the past 60 years they failed to deliver any result. The Tibetans are still refugees and their future is very uncertain. Not only that, the CTA is very corrupted, they siphoned the money that was meant for the Tibetans and they always fight among themselves for petty issues. They don't really care about the welfare of the Tibetans.
If we look at the Tibetans in Tibet, their lives are so much better than those in India. They are not discriminated against by their government and they enjoy the same rights as other Chinese citizens. As long as they are hardworking, there are plenty of opportunities for them to improve their lives.
Since the CTA is so incapable and many have lost their hope in the CTA, it is not surprising to see the declining number of Tibetans in India. Many Tibetans borrow a large amount of money just to migrate overseas, it is more hopeful when they don't have to rely on the CTA. Tibetans in Tibet are not as naive as before, they also realise the Chinese government can give them more than what CTA can provide. Sooner or late, CTA will have to be dissolved.
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The article below speaks about Tibetans who have returned to Tibet on their own. They returned to the motherland and happy to be monitored by the Chinese. These Tibetans are known as 'returnees' and are said to have an advantage over those who remain in India or those who have never left Tibet. This is a very good incentive scheme given by the Chinese.
What struck me was there was no mention of the Dalai Lama which clearly shows that the new generation is just looking for careers and livelihoods.
Excerpt:
"Akam has partnered with three friends to set up a restaurant and is doing well for himself. He doesn’t regret leaving India, where, according to him, opportunities for Tibetans are limited.
The reverse is also true. Many young people head to India in hope of a better life, but are bitterly disappointed like a 20- something man -- we will call him Gyantse – I met in Dharamsala in 2015.
Gyantse was a receptionist at a hotel and also an assistant to a travel agent. Money was poor but there was little he could do. He had dropped out of the Tibetan Transit School (TTS) in Dharamsala, set up to help the young make the transition and pick up livelihood skills".
Read the full article here https://www.firstpost.com/blogs/world-blogs/tibetan-returnees-journey-home-6283091.html (https://www.firstpost.com/blogs/world-blogs/tibetan-returnees-journey-home-6283091.html)
It is true that many young people traveled to India hoping to get a better life there but what they get instead are disappointments, poverty, and more hardships. There are books written about this and one of them will be "Two more years" by Tendar Tsering that clearly tell us his hardship and his let down when he traveled to India hoping to get a better life and education.
There is so much of disappointment in the situation in India that a lot of them diverted their path to foreign countries instead. They rather risk their lives in another country than staying with their own government which they are familiar with. That speaks volumes about what is the situation in India.
Other than that, there are many examples of successful Tibetans who manage to make it overseas. It is a proven fact that Tibetans are better off elsewhere than couped up in the Tibetan settlements in India. This is the reason why the number of Tibetans are decreasing drastically over the years and CTA is not doing anything to retain them other than imposing harsher rules and regulation to stop them from leaving. Soon, there will be no Tibetans in Exile for them to govern over and they will have to close down.